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A86649 The fiery darts of the divel quenched; or, Something in answer to a book called, a second beacon fired, presented to the Lord Protector, and the Parliament, and subscribed by Luke Fawne, John Rothwel, Samuel Gellibrand, Thomas Underhill, Joshua Kirton, Nathaniel Web. Wherin, their lies and slanders are made manifest against the innocent, and those books which have been published by them they call Quakers, owned and vindicated, and all the rest which is in that book disowned, and their deceite laid open; how they have perverted the truth and our words in those books which they cry out of as blasphemy, that the truth may not suffer under the reproach of the heathen. / By one who is a witnesse for the truth against Gog and Magog, called after the flesh, Francis Howgil. Also something in answer to a booke called a voice from the Word of the Lord, by one John Griffith, against us, whom the world calls Quakers, wherein his false accusations is denied, and he proved to be a slanderer, and the truth cleared from his scandals. By one who is a witnesse against the deceits of the world, called Edward Burrough. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1654 (1654) Wing H3159; Thomason E817_16; ESTC R207383 23,227 35

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hear his voice and a strangerthey will not hear I answer They that are of God do owne the writings of all the servants of Christ but many may professe their words as the Pharisees did the Prophets words and as thou dost now and yet not bee of God but children to the divel but that our conceits are fleshly I do deny thee for all conceits of the flesh wee deny and beares witnesse against and it shall stand for thy owne condition and thy voice is the voice of a stranger and they that are of God will not follow it though thou bring the Saints words in thy mouth as the divel did unto Christ yet in the light of Christ thou art seene and comprehended and from the light of Christ answered and by it judged to be without the life of those scriptures which thou speaks of and they are from thee but as an empty sound And whereas thou cites many more Scriptures which are exhortations of the Apostles to the Church and exhorts thy Bretheren with them to vvhich I Ansvver as before The Scriptures I doe ovvne but to thee thou envious man they doe not belong for as in this thy vvriting thou art proved a lier and a scorner and a slanderer and a false accuser and a blasphemer out of thy ovvne mouth be a vvitnesse against thy selfe and let all thy vvhole assembly beare vvitnesse against thee that the Scriptures vvhich vvere spoken to the Saints vvho vvalked in the light and had denyed ungodliness doth not belong unto thee vvho art an hater of the light and lives in the pollutions of the vvorld but the Scriptures vvhich vvill surely be fulfilled upon thee the wicked shal be turned into hel and the lier shal have his portion in the lake and he that works abomination is to be troden in the winepresse of the wrath of God without the City and such like And now somthing in answer to something in the Epistle to the Reader whereas thou and the rest of you there say although the light hath appeared yet there is a generation of men in the world that doe hate the light and endeavour to put it out crying against the scriptures of truth it s a dead letter and against the forme of doctrine therein contained To which I answer It is true the light hath appeared Christ who is the light lightneth every one that comes into the world which light hath appeared in every mans conscience and there is a generation which hates the light and you are of that generation which say every man hath not the light and calls the light of Christ thick darknesse and endeavors to put it out and here you have read your owne condition though you make a large profession of the Scriptures which is not the light but words declared from the light as the Jewes did professe the prophets words but persecuted Christ and spoke against him who was the light and substance of the prophets words and if you know any who cries against the scripture and against the doctrine therin contained with you we cry and declare against such for the scripture we owne in its place to be a true declaration of God of Christ and of the saints conditions but they are not the light but Christ is the light as themselves bear witness nor are they the saints guide but he spirit that gave them forth as they themselves bear testimony neither was the scriptures given forth to give your own imaginations and suppositions upon but they themselves are doctrine and are as they speak he that hath the same spirit which speaks them forth reads them and understands them and none else and whereas thou saist lest that simple plaine meaning men should be kept in Babels darkness or the enlightned fall into the errour of the wicked for that reason your book came to publick view I answer Truly you are deceived who think to gaine into your form the simple plain meaning men by lies and false slanders and false accusation who are simple and plain unto God wil discern your deceits and how falsly you have accused the innocent and wil see you your selves to be in Babels darkness and who walks in the light wherwith they are lightned wil see you to be in the errour of the wicked and out of the truth and it is well for the truths sake that your book came forth that thereby your filthiness and deceitfulness and enviousness might be laid open to the simple And truly I say unto you you have and wil miss of your end in putting forth this book of yours and whereas you say you shall be willing at any time to vindicate every conclusion therein contained against any that shall oppose I answer I challenge you all in this particular to prove those accusations which you have laid to our charge whom you call Quakers in many particulars which before I have demanded what they are is before spoken of and whereas you say you account that light within not witnessed by the scripture without which some so much talke of to be deep darkness I answer if you know any who speake of any light which the Scripture doth not witnesse of we with you freely declares against such and such a light is darkness but the light of Christ which we speak of which hath lightned every one that cometh into the world I hope you are not so impudent but you wil acknowledge that the scriptures speaks of this light and dare not deny but that the scripture witnesses that Christ is the light of the world for as I said we freely give way and desires that all might search the scripture whether these things be not so as we declare And whereas you say and exhort to let the Scripture be the rule of faith and practice I Answ Here you would alwaies keep people in darkeness under your teaching and would make void the new Covenant which is the Law written in the heart and the spirit of the Lord put in the inward parts to be the rule and guide of the Saints for who walkes by the rule without them and teaches men so to do would make void the Covenant of life and peace where the teacher is not removed into a corner which teacher all that have faith and an holy conversation do witnesse which teaches not contrary to what the Scripture speaks but is a teaching fulfilling of the Scripture and an establishing of it though thou and many may professe the teaching of the Scripture and may in your own wills conform unto it in the outward appearance as the Pharisees did and yet be but Hypocrites and deceived as they were and I say againe that faith was before the Scripture was written which faith is declared of in the Scripture which faith comes as is manifested by hearing of the word Preached which word is even in the mouth and in the heart if you have an ear you may hear now I advise you all in the name of the Lord to cease striving and contending against the truth for verily the stone which is cut out of the mountain without hands will dash your image of many mixtures to peices and it falling upon you wil grinde you to powder and your conforming the outward man to an outward thing and teaching men so to doe and limiting and tying the Holy one to a visible thing wil not cover you in the day of the Lord nay verily though concerning the Scripture without you may walk blamelesse yet one thing will be found lacking even the crosse of Jesus Christ by which all sin is crucified in them who walks in it and I say unto you that your covering is too narrow and it will not hide your secret parts for in the eternall light of Christ you are seen and comprehended your beginning your time and your end for though you have the Scriptures and Jewish like walkes up in the outward appearance of them crying the ordinances and Churches are ye yet your praise is of men and not of God for you are enemies to the life of the Scriptures as is made appear by your many lies and slanders against us which you have uttered and I say returen your minds every one within to that in your own consciences which reproves you in secret for your secret iniquities it wil let you see where your hearts are and how far they are mortified to the world and the love of it and this light wherewith every one of you is lightned is the light of Christ and it is the Lords true witnesse and shall witnesse for him eternally against all whose deeds are evil who walk in disobedience of it and all who love it and walk in it it leads unto Christ and into all purity and holinesse and uprightness of heart towards God and man and this light leads unto justification all them who are taught by it and here is your teacher loving it and your condemnation eternally continuing to hate it And thus I have answered your booke and the truth is witnessed and many false lies and false accusations denied and testified against and thus I rest waiting for an answer to clear your self if you be able of those things which I have denied from you which you have charged upon us for God is my witnesse this I do desire that truth may be made manifest and imbraced and deceit and errour discovered and denied
that Christ hath enlightned all men but I shal lay downe your own words and prove you liers out of that booke called the General good to all people and you say the light of God that is in all men that is to wit natural conscience that it is sufficient if wee give heed unto it to discover sinne and and turne our minds towards God and that this light within is the grace of God and that it is Christ in us Answer Let all that reades that booke see if you bee not liers and slanderers and perverters and are in the generation of those false witnesses which bore witnesse against Christ and here I charge you to be liers Where in all the bookdoth he say that the light of a natural conscience is sufficient to guide to God if it be taken heed to or where doth it say it discovers sin there is another lie and where doth hee say that natural conscience is the grace of God there is a third lie and where doth hee say that natural conscience is Christ in us there is a fourth lie bee ashamed that ever you should goe and present so many filthy lies to authority that there is no truth in at all Oh yee darke mindes would you be judging and prescribing what is heresie and blasphemie and cals the light of Christ paganisme and heresie but I am bold in the Name of the Lord to declare unto you and unto all the world that Christ is the true light that hath enlightned every one that comes into the world and that this light is spiritual and not natural and it convinceth of all sinne hee shal convince the world of sinne and whoso obey this light which shines into the conscience it leads up to Christ and out of sinne and it turns the mind towards God and it shines in darknesse but you dark sottish children know it not yea you that hate it have it and it shal condemne you and when the book of conscience shall be opened you shall be judged for all your hard speeches against the truth Another thing you present to be blasphemie and heresie is that the worship that is performed in England with those Ministers that sing Davids Psalms baptize infants weare double cuffes boot hose tops take tithes say men shal never be perfect in this world and that say the letter is the light and the letter is the word and that salvation is in the Scripture and that cals Matthew Mark Luke John the Gospel are seducers and no Ministers of the word but shew forth the Spirit of error Answer All those Ministers in England which abide not in the Doctrine of Christ all those worshippers and worships which is contrary to the Scripture are Heathenish and they worship they know not what and all such worship is an abomination to the true God and I charge you and all those that would be counted Ministers in England to prove from the Scripture where the Saints sung Davids conditions and Psalms in rimes and meter and where is there any Scripture for baptizing of Infants and whether any of the Ministers of Christ lived in pride and lusts of the flesh and where any Ministers of Christ took tithes which belonged to the first Priesthod and the first covenant and so they that uphold the first denie the second and the one everlasting offering which perfects for ever them that are sanctified and where doth the Scripture say that the letter is the word and the light but it witnesses against you and saith God is the word and Christ is the light and Christ is the Gospel yea the everlasting Gospel and Mathew Marke Luke and John declared of him and heare be you a witnesse against your self ye dark minded men and I charge you that you deny the Scripture and all those who upholds those things are in the heathenish nature without God in the world in the earth where the Divil dwels who is an accuser of the Bretheren and doth not the Scripture and they declare it who were Ministers of Christ that there were that ran after the errour of Balaam and their hearts was exercised with covetous practises and were there not such that was raylers and false accusers and blind watchmen and greedy dumb dogs and such as sought for their gaine from their quarter and such as lead into wichcraft and Antichrists deceivers you might as wel have called Christ and Paul and Peter and Jude Blasphemers and Hereticks but you are made manifest just to be them and in the same nature that called Christ a blasphemer and Paul a pestilent fellow and a setter forth of strange Gods and the Ministers of Christ seditious and thou might as wel say Christ despised a Governor when he called Herod a fox and now blessed be the Lord the houre of his Judgments is come and we freely declare against all deceit both in Magistrates Priests and people as they did that wrote forth the Scripture and beare witnesse to his name as they did in our measure and we have suffered and do suffer dayly by slanderous tongues such as you have and imprisonments and cruel mockings and stripes and bonds and can truly say to the praise of his name we beare in our bodies the markes of the Lord Jesus but we must passe through good report and evil report and it is our Crown and rejoycing to suffer for his name and now Gog and Magog and all the powers of the earth bends themselves and are angry even the nations that professe Christ in words and say the Scripture is their rule but walke not according to it and against all such hypocrisie are we witnesses to the fulfilling our testimony and the laying down of our lives that he alone may be honored who sits upon the throne of David and of whose Government there is no end to whom be praise for ever who shall breake all your combinations and plots and you shall be ground to powder who set your selves against him and be dashed to pieces as a Potters vessel And now to that which you call Antimagistratical errors that the magistrates are not to have titles of worshipful or right worshipful and that the Subjects of a Common Wealth which is not Israels Common wealth are to be disturbed and that no civil Government is to be acknowledged but the government of the Law within us Answer Where reads thou or any that any Magistrate was called worshipful or right worshipful or ever any of the Saints of God did so he that is righteousnesse and truth unto whom all honor and worship belongs God blessed for ever we owne and worship he is no respecter of persons And you filty flaterers who are in the curse respect mens persons and so you are rased out for ever from the faith of Christ and from the faith which all the holy men of God lived in that you know it not but you false accusers Magistrates we know and they are for the punishment of