about a Fleshly Uniformity which insnares and overbears the tender Conscience this is not Lovely nor Spiritual nor Christian And the Apostle who Exhorts Christians to one Mind yet doth not bid them force one another to one mind but walk together sweetly so far as they had attained and wherein they were otherwise minded God in his due time would reveal more to them Phil. 3.15 16. He that hath to him shall be given and the Intent and Work of the Ministry with the several Ministrations of it is to bring into the Unity Ephes 4.13 as Persons are able to follow and not to force all Men into one Practice or Way that 's the way to destroy the Faith and the true Unity and at best can introduce but a Fleshly Appearance of Vnity into such a Form of Worship and Godliness as eats out the Power And for being of one Heart and one Way Blessed be the Lord this is in measure known and witnessed The Way is one Christ the Truth of God and he that is in the Faith and in the Obedience to the Light which shines from his Spirit into the Heart of every Believer hath a tast of the one Heart and of the one Way and knoweth that no Variety of Practices which is of God can make a Breach in the true Vnity This is the one Way for every one to be subject to the Light of Christs Spirit which he hath received from Christ and every one keeping here there is also one Heart kept in the midst of all the Variety and diversity of Practices 'T is needful to be observed that in the City of London a Free Meeting was held between R. Barclay and me in the presence of G. F. and many others wherein we treated on many things contained in R. B's Book of Government which I then did and ever since have accounted Erroneous and on the whole matter one part of the Meeting viz. Charles Marshal with thirty six Persons more advised R. B. as anon by their Paper cited will appear on this wise It is the desire of this Meeting that the said R. B. as he feels in himself the Openings of Life thereunto will in Christian-Condescension to the Capacities of the Weak write an Explanatory Postscript to the said Book for the Sakes of all such as may be supposed to have misapprehended any Expression therein Now forasmuch as the said R. B. hath by way of Epistle to Friends written an Explanatory Rostscript though not Printed the same I thought meet to cite it together with my Observations thereon as followeth Aberdene Prison the 6th of the 1st Month 1679. Dear Friends and Brethren UNto all my Dear Friends and Brethren unto whose hands this Paper may come or who may be any ways more particularly concerned in the Contents hereof is the Salutation of my unfeigned Love in that unchangable Truth whereunto it hath pleased the Lord to call me according to his great Mercy so as to be a Partaker in some Measure of the Peace and Glory which in this Day is revealed wherewith my Heart hath been often filled as I have waited in Faithfulness according to the Dispensation of Light manifested in me and to me And since it pleased God to make me a Living Witness of the Precious Truth and to commit unto me my share of the Ministry thereof my Conscience bears me Witness in the Sight of God that I have Laboured according to my Knowledge to follow Love and Peace with all my Brethren and to do those things which might tend to Advance Strengthen and Confirm Unity and Brotherly-Love as also to avoid what had a Tendency to beget Strife Jealousie or Evil Surmises like as I have studied as well in my publick Testimony as in my Writings to beware of any thing that to my Understanding might minister just Occasion of Stumbling or Offence to the least of my Brethren or the youngest and weakest Babe in the Truth as such as are conversant with me in my own Country as well as those elsewhere where I have travelled can bear Witness Nevertheless as I cannot shun any part of that Labour and Service which my Lord and Master Jesus Christ calls me to so in Obedience to his Requirings near five Years ago I wrote some Sheets concerning the Lawfulness and Necessity of the Government and Order of the Truth having principally and only in my View therein to bear a Faithful Testimony against all false Liberty and Disorder on the one hand and against Imposition and Dominion on the other Intending no less to guard against the one than the other and this I did with particular Respect to some of my near Friends whom I found liable to some Mistakes in that matter And I do sincerely declare before God who knows I speak the Truth and lie not That in the writing thereof I had not the least Purpose nor Intention to meddle with nor concern my self in any of those Debates that have since fallen out amongst Friends in Westmoreland or elsewhere relative thereto much of which as it had not then a being when I wrote that Book so the Substance of that Matter was then unknown to me so I can safely say that I had not so much as one remote Thought or any Remembrance of the lest beginnings of that Affair which I knew during the time of my writing of it so that nothing could be Intended by me therein relative to that matter which as it is sufficient to vindicate my Innocency and Integrity to all as to my Intentions so I cannot forbear also to signifie that as often as I have had Occasion seriously and in the holy Fear and Dread of God to reflect upon those Papers which I have often done because of the Opposition they have met with from some W. R's First Observation [a] [a] This shews that R. B. doth not only Justifie what he hath done but also signifies that he laboured with all the Care and Circumspection he could so to express himself as not to offend in a word and therefore since I know he is well skil'd to word his meaning I might reasonably have expected that he would have cited out of his Book of Government those Passages therein contained which will Evidence that all his Explications by this his Postscript may he found in his Book which was needful to have been done if he so could but I certainly know he cannot that his circumspection might appeare especially since he hath affirmed that the very Explications of his words given in a Letter hereafter cited as his own Explications are to be found in his Book as appears by the said Letter sent abroad by himself and that as may reasonably be taken intended by him to be in his Favour But if the Impartial Vnderstanding Reader wiâ—l be at the pains to compare R. B 's Book of Government with this his Postscript and the Explications given of his words in the aforesaid Letter I may with
Things have a Tendency to insinuate Submission without Conviction to nurture up Ignorance instead of Wisdom and to introduce Bondage instead of Freedom in Christ as much as ever was under the Cover of a Black-Coat in the Dark Night of Apostacy where this Maxime viz. Ignorance is the Mother of Devotion is known to be true with respect to a Zealous Observation of what the Clergy have imposed and taught What is already signified may give some little Taste of Apostacy or Innovation unto such as have been acquainted with the Primitive Doctrines and Practices of the True Christian-Quaker or Children of Light for so we were called in the Beginning But yet 't is with me a little to treat of one other grand Mark of Apostacy or Innovation viz. Iudging the Merit of a Cause without Hearing the same As before is signified 'T was the Saying of Christ As I Hear I Judge But yet I am a Witness that Ignorance or Envy or that which is worse hath so abounded as that the True Christian-Quaker hath been judged and censured by such as retain that Name but not his Nature when See the Appendix to the Second Part of the Christian-Quaker unheard in the Defence of Himself and the Cause of Truth which he hath stood for When I consider the aforesaid Words of Christ As I Hear I Iudge John 5.26 27. and that it sprang from him who was Partaker of his Father's Life and Power and knew all Things John 16.30 it s to me a real Confirmation that a Pretence to Life Power and Discerning of Spirits cannot be sufficient Plea to justify a Practice contrary to that Example And therefore since I know that such a Pretence hath been the only Plea for that Practice I conclude it no better than the Fruit of Ignorance or Envy or that which is worse Ignorance in those who have believed that outward Ministers are Ordained of God amongst the People called Quakers to See for the Body and Hear for the Body and on that Foot signe and glory in other Men's Lines made ready to their Hands whether they know any thing of the Truth thereof or no. Envy or that which is worse in such an one as hath used both Acquired and Natural Parts from the Strength of Reason Testimonies of Scriptures Arguments from the Light of Christ Citations out of Antient and Modern Writers as well as Examples of Antient Fathers to convince some Professors of Christianity of their Errors and yet imperatively signify To God's Friends every where as before is cited on this wise Let not this Spirit be reasoned with enter not into Proposals and Articles with it but feed it with Iudgment that is God's Decree And indeed the Endeavours of some have taken such an Effect as that the abused Parties Readiness to abide a Hearing before a competent Number of Persons equally to be chosen if any one had Matter of Evil Fact or False Doctrine to lay to their Charge would not be accepted but instead thereof a Persevering to term them dark and rending Spirits without evidencing wherein Which is far short of that Justice which appeared in Festus when he directed the Jewish Informers against Paul to Accuse him of Wickedness if there be any in him These Things considered What ingenious Reader can conclude that Persons so qualifyed are of any better Spirit than those Persecuting Jews were of unto whom the aforesaid Festus on the Behalf of Persecuted Paul said Acts 25.16 It is not the Manner of the Romans to deliver any Man to Dye before that he which is Accused have the Accusers Face to Face and have Licence to answer for himself concerning the Crime laid against him And though the Testimony of Festus runs not parallel with respect to the taking away of the Natural Life yet several Instances might be produced to manifest that there are amongst the People termed Quakers such as practise so far as in them lyes the bringing a Death upon the Good Name and Reputation of the True Christian-Quaker without giving Opportunity to know Whether they pretend to Accuse of Matter of Evil Fact or no. These Things considered puts me in mind to note That one great Part of the Matter of Controversie is touching John Story who in Publick Meeting for Worship hath in my Hearing been accused for a False Prophet and when the Accuser hath been desired to prove him so the Answer hath been He is of a Dividing Spirit and therefore a False Prophet But when in Answer it hath been said as of late it hath Bring forth and prove Matter of Evil Fact or False Doctrine against him and we will disown him then nothing of that Nature hath been brought forth much less proved against him Which considered I rationally infer That such Opposers of the Christian-Quaker whom in this Preface I intend are guilty of one other Mark of Apostacy or Innovation in not admitting to be put in Practice the Rule of Christ when he said Ye shall know them by their Fruits Matth. 7.16 meaning as the Scripture declares such as were False Prophets And that they may the better evade the Rule prescribed as by Christ sometimes affirm That a Good Cause may be ill managed and a bad Cause well managed Thereby insinuating into Ignorant People that though John Story and his Friends have managed their Cause well whil'st their Opposers have managed their Cause but ill yet that John Story and his Friends are Persons of Bad Spirits and their Opposers Persons of Right Spirits And for my own part I no way doubt but that this sort of Argumentation hath become a Defence and Cover for False Certificates Lyes and Slanderous Accusations whereby some have been proselyted to oppose the Truth it self Oh great Abomination If Living Well and holding forth nothing but Sound Doctrine shall not be brought to the Measuring Line of Christ What Defence can there be against a Slanderous Tongue And if Evil Practices and Unsound Doctrine pretended to be publish't in the Name of God shall admit of this Cover he is notwithstanding of a Good Spirit A little Religion and common Sense will give an Understanding of what Absurdities and Gross Darkness may be introduced under those Notions 'T is then easily to be discerned that if the Envy of a Proud Man that seeks Lordship over the Consciences of others do but once put to speak comparatively the Bare-Skin upon the Back of a Friend in Truth there will not be wanting a Company of Ignorant or Envious Persons ready to bite and devour him and to spread abroad Certificates of Defamation Right or Wrong amongst Enemies as well as Friends according to the Example given by G. F. when writing to H. S. R. T. and another Person of Harford he thus said Here is a Certificate enclosed from Two of John Story 's Neighbours who very well know he hath been an Encourager of the Separate-Meeting in Westmoreland which you may shew both to Enemies and Friends with the other
Eminently concerned in the Division threatned should be the Anvil to beat upon and interceded that we would forbear making mention of the Names of Persons reflected on To this the Answer was That it seemed unlikely to bring forth a Credible History touching Religious Differences without naming the Authors of Books Papers and Names of Persons reflected on evidencing the Reality of such Principles Doctrines and Practices which occasioned Disunion and Separation amongst some of the aforesaid People However Truth obliged us to have a Tender Regard unto those who came unto us in Brotherly Love and for the Sakes of such our Desires have been that the Lord might permit us to Bear Forbear and Suffer having a secret Hope that the Lord might make such Instruments in his Hand by a Tender and Brotherly Mediation to cause the High and Lofty to bow to Truth and Righteousness that so the Government of Christ might be exalted in every Heart where his Law is written and that none who make mention of his Name might conclude themselves entred into an Heavenly Possession or Inheritance because of a Strict Observance of some Outward written Order prescribed by Man After we had long born it then more particularly became my Concern to prepare another Manuscript and that chiefly out of the Second Part of what was first prepared in relation to divers Persons concerned in the Divisions to discover that one Man George For guilty of many Things reproachful to the Truth and that because it was and yet is clearly manifested unto me and as I have understood many others that that ONE PERSON hath been the very Chief Instrument or at least an Abettor of such as have whereby a Biting Devouring Spirit is entred in amongst the Flock and yet great Part of the Contention of one Party with another seems to be but about the Shell and not the Kernel My Meaning thereby is about Outward Forms and Methods relating to Marriages Relief of the Poor c. as if Hells Gates must be opened to receive all such as walk not in that Outward Path which in Relation thereto hath been prescribed by that ONE MAN Moreover 'T is observable that before I undertook to prepare the Manuscript relating to that ONE MAN I writ unto him Seven Letters Dated as followeth viz. the 27th of the 1st Moneth 1677. the 3d. of the 10th Moneth 1677. the 4th of the 11th Moneth 1678. the 11th of the 11th Moneth 1678. one other on the same Day signed by Thomas Gouldeny William Forde and My Self one other the 22th of the 2d Moneth 1679. signed by My Self and Three other Friends directed to Him and two Others and one other from My Self only Dated the 6th of the 12th Moneth 1679. manifesting the Ground of my Dissatisfaction with relation to many Things of a Publick Concern amongst Friends as well as Personal Injury which became him to clear or else give Satisfaction And yet to this Day being the 16th Day of the 6th Moneth 1680. I cannot in Truth say That any Answer is come from him to me notwithstanding Messengers were sent unto him on purpose with several of them and Advice given me of the Delivery And though a Paper came once to my Hand in which Mention is made of Two of the said Letters yet I cannot take it to be his Answer but rather as by the Language thereof appears the Answer of another on his behalf and chiefly stuff'd with Queries so that my Concern to expect Satisfaction or Detect him is encreas'd At length when I perceived 't was not probable to obtain what I expected from him by making manifest my Burthen and Exercise either to Him or One or Two whom I supposed he might esteem to be of the Church nor yet from the General Meeting though as I suppose they are esteemed by some though not by all the Representatives of the Church in general I then for the Sakes of many Brethren Travelled in several Parts of the Nation manifesting that according to the Understanding given me of God I had proceeded toward that ONE PERSON G. F. in a Gospel-Method and that if I then should have proceeded to Print against him nothing could be justly laid to my Charge for want of Orderly Proceeding to obtain Satisfaction which hitherto was not given me But yet my Condescension to my Brethren was such as that though the Manuscript relating to him was prepared I very publickly proposed in Writing under my Hand and spread the same abroad directed to Friends in several Counties signifying that if any one of them were free to write unto that ONE PERSON or at least to give this Testimony under their or any of their Hands that since I Charge him to be Guilty of Things reproachful to the Truth 'T is but Just and Reasonable that he should submit to a Hearing thereof before Friends in Truth to the end that if Guilty he may Condemn the same if not he may be Justifyed and I Condemned for Accusing wrongfully I should then forbear Printing against him until such time I should send such a Letter or Testimony unto the Place of his Habitation And if he should be pleased to give Answer thereto on Request to him to be made by the Messenger that should go therewith then my Purpose was as I then declared to Communicate such Answer to Friends that so we might consider further what might be agreeable to Truth to be done on this Occasion One Part of my End in thus doing was To discover whether there be such an Erroneous Principle in any so to stand by a Man charged to be guilty of Things reproachful to the Truth as that he must be exempted though Guilty from the Stroke of that Justice which in the like Cases of Guilt he hath prescribed for others For though the Apostle testifyed That Charity suffereth long beareth and endureth all things yet his Meaning was not that any Member of the Church of Christ of what Degree soever should not be treated withal when over-taken in a Fault else the same Apostle would not have given these Testimonies Gal. 6.5 Every Man shall bear his own Burthen Col. 3.25 He that doth Wrong shall receive for the Wrong which he hath done and there is no Respect of Persons Besides 't is observable from the Scriptures of Truth Rev. 2.2 that 'T was Praise-worthy not to bear Lyars though they might say they were Apostles I now come to inform the Reader that the ensuing Treatise is for the most part Collected out of the Manuscript first made mention of But yet with the Omission of some Marginal Memorials directing the Reader to the several Sections of the Second Part of the said Manuscript that so from Matter of Fact therein contained the Truth of Reflections made and the Reasonableness of Objections raised and that from the Books Writings or Practices of some particular Person or Persons reputed of the People called Quakers might be proved And therefore since it is not thought fit
him for counsel and wait upon the teachings of his Spirit which dwelleth in you which the Father hath given unto you because you are his Children and this he requireth from you that his own Spirit in you which hath begotten you may be the root and moving cause of all your works and words and herein will you receive Acceptance with him and Peace from him and Righteousness in him and everlasting Joy by him continually and this is the inheritance unto which you were begotten heirs to possess for ever Bristol the first day of the eight Month. 1680. William Rogers 'T is thought meet to inform the Reader that though the five parts of this Treatise are now bound up together yet 't was once designed that they should also be published in single parts which hath occasioned the inserting of some things oftner than would have been and the wording of other things not so proper and concise as it might had it at first been so concluded Post-script UNderstanding that some among the People called Quakers within the City of London either from Knowledge or Jealousy that of late I have been concerned to publish in Print something against George For have already concerned themselves to Dislike and give pretended Reasons against my so doing which if past over in Silence and the Truth not cleared may have a Tendency to defile the Minds of some of the Friends of Truth and to establish the Opposers thereof in their present Evil and wrong Sentiments of those who encourage the bringing forth of this Treatise I am now in Conscience concerned to add this Postscript for this End First That all Friends may have a further Caution to hear see and savour for themselves and not too hastily censure any unheard in their own Defence Secondly That they may not be ensnared by the evil Insinuations false Suggestions or unreasonable Constructions whether of the Blind Zealot principled to Eye the Brethren in stead of the Light in himself or the Luke-warm Partial appearing Note I would not be hereby understood that all who appear Newters are either Luke-warm or Partial because I am satisfyed many honest-hearted Friends that know the Truth have not a Knowledge of all the Differencies and so may be accounted with Respect to some parts of the Controversy as Newters and others not being concerned in the Controversy may be termed Newters and set such as walk in the Antient Path of Truth in all Sincerity Newter that is sensible of the great falling away and yet either for Ease and Interest Sake or a slavish Fear stifles his own Knowledge For the time is come wherein a Discovery must be made of the Ignorance of the one the Hypocrisy of the other and the irreligious unchristian-like Deportments and Constructions of both To the Matter in hand on this Occasion I now proceed First The Vatter as I understand disliked is my proceeding to print against George Fox Secondly The Reasons pretended to be given behind my back without so much as First signifying any thing by Word or Writing to me so far as I know against my so doing are these First That though I pretended I had often sent to George Fox about giving me a Meeting and that I also came up to London to read a Charge against him behind his back at which time as 't is said I was then told by some that they understood Grorge Fox would be at the General Meeting yet when he did come to it although I had advice from James Claypoole of his being come I neither took any notice thereof nor yet sent to him and yet further also as I now am informed some do raise as a great Argument in their Esteem against me this also viz. That when I was last in the City of London since the General Meeting I was also informed by the said James Claypoole that George Fox was but a few Miles off and yet did neither go to him nor stay until he came to the City but instead thereof hasted out of Town with great Diligence which as some say shewed that whatever I had pretended to meet George Fox yet I had no desire thereto My Concern now is for the Sakes of such simple ones who may be apt to take Shadows for Substance and impertinent irrational as well as irreligious and unchristian-like Discourses for Oracles when dropping either from the Mouth or Pen of one unto whom according to their Principle they may think themselves oblieged to have an Eye to discover the Impertinency and Fallaciousness of the Reasons urged against my proceeding to print against George Fox In order thereto I first observe that from the aforesaid pretended Reasons this pretended Argument may be urged Iames Claypoole being at London informs William Rogers then at Lristol that George Fox was come to the City and afterwards informs William Rogers when at London that George Fox was but a few Miles from the City but William Rogers takes no notice thereof nor yet sent to him nor waited for George Fox's coming to the City therefore William Rogers had no desire to meet G. F. when he formerly so pretended Were this to come only to the View of Men of Understanding and impartial I might well stop my Pen from any further attempt to discover the weakness and fallacy of such idle sort of Discourses because such would first be apt to enquire For what End I desired a Meeting with G. F and when they should be Informed That 't was to prove him guilty of things reproachfull to the Truth and that he would by no means assent to such a Meeting they would be ready to conclude that 't was his best defence to cover his Guilt from the Knowledge of such whose Faith might be in him and so conclude that no Obligation in Truth might be upon me to take any further notice of him as to a Meeting had it so happened as that I had accidently meet him in the very Street much less ride 94 Miles upon bare report from the said J. C. that he was in London as if my Business were the Business of such a poor Pensioner that had nothing to do but to attend G. F's Motion but rather to endeavour to clear my Conscience otherwise as now I am about to do However for the Sakes of others I shall proceed to clear the matter objected somewhat more First Then I must tell those evil Insinuators who say That I had no desire to meet G. F. when I writ to him of my readiness so to do that therein they belye me Secondly The Argument pretended to be deducible from the aforesaid Reasons cannot be good unless this following Assertion ought to be owned by every one that hath desire to meet with George Fox on the like occasion as I had viz. First That on the said J. C's notice that George Fox is or will be at London then 't is the Duty of any Friend that hath a desire to meet G. F. to come
plain and lest my so doing should become a Stumbling-Block to any of the Friends of Truth it is with me also to say that I do not so with Expectation that the Friends of London should look upon themselves as having any Authority or Jurisdiction in any Matter or Concern whatsoever relating to the Friends of Truth without the Consent of Parties given them But my chief End in choosing to lay such things which I at present have Freedom to do before the Friends of this great City is because I suppose that there are several Persons in and adjacent thereunto who may be more capable to negotiate a Matter tending to Reconciliation in this Case than some in some other places may and that because of the Influence which as I suppose some amongst them if any at all elsewhere have with George Fox touching whom my present Concern of Spirit and Conscience is and my End in thus opening my self to several Friends in divers Parts of the Nation whereof you are a part is not that upon my thus writing to you you should take upon you to Judge the matter but that when you have heard the Matter that at present I am free to communicate to you you may then seriously wait upon the Lord and weigh the Matter laid before you and if any thing shall be with you to propose unto George Fox and me in order to a Decision of the Differences between us and it shall appear that which may be approved by the Witness of God in my Conscience I have this Faith that a Constraint will be upon my Spirit to submit thereto for Conscience Sake so far as may concern me That now you may be made sensible of what I am at present free to communicate unto you I think meet to transcribe a Letter written by me unto George Fox for the further clearing of my Conscience and that if possible with clearness to my Conscience his many Errours and Slanderous false Accusations may not lye on a Printed Record to his Shame unto Posterity The said Letter now followeth Bristol the 6th of the 12th Mo. 1679. George Fox I doubt not but that thou mayst remember that in a Letter unto Joan Hily in or about the 10th Month 1678. thou thus writ I do understand that William Rogers and his Company hath spread abroad a Bad and Lying Paper against me and that he and they have contrary to their Order Friends Agreement when I and we were at Bristol and had a Meeting with them he has made a kind of Narrative of the same and sent it abroad in the Nation among Bad Spirits Thus far thou in thine to Joan Hily The report thereof coming to my Ears and understanding that 't was the Ground of a Wicked Report in the Mouth of another not professing the Truth I concerned my self to enquire into the Matter and thereupon obtained the following Certificate WE whose Names are hereunto subscribed do testify that Joseph Forrest of Bristol Button Maker one that was never accounted as we know or ever heard to be of the People called Quakers related that he saw a Letter in the Hands of Joan Hily of Bristol Widdow wherein William Rogers was much vilifyed as a wicked and bad Man by George Whereupon William Rogers desired us to go to Joan Hily to see the Letter who this Day shewed us a Letter c. at the End whereof we saw written the above recited Note The Lines mentioned to be above recited are the same mentioned in this Letter as written by thee touching me Lines which Joan Hily said were written by George Fox's own Hand and subscribed by him we also do believe it was his Hand-Writing Dated Bristol 4th of 11th Mon. 1678. Alexander Pyott Cornelius Sarjant This occasioned me to write unto thee in the presence of Joan Hily Alexander Pyot and Cornelius Sarjant the same Day and therein repeating the Matter of Accusation c. as abovesaid I then thus answered And forasmuch as Joan Hily was desirous to know what I could say for my self I thought it necessary to acquaint thee that I thus said unto her I have not concerned my self to spread abroad any bad or lying Paper against thee nor yet have been any way concerned in spreading a kind of a Narrative contrary to any Agreement wherein I was concerned and that thy Writing to Joan Hily touching me is a Slander and a Lye c. and so will become thy Burthen wast thou an Innocent Man thou wouldest have endeavoured in a Christian Method to clear the things touching which I have often written unto thee Thou mayest also remember that on the 11th of the 11th Month 1678. I writ unto thee again and sent it by a Messenger on purpose that so I might have an Account of its Delivery unto thee c. and the End of my so doing was twofold First lest the other should miscarry which Joan Hily undertook to send unto thee under her Cover Secondly To signify my Expectation of Satisfaction from thee for the Wrong thou hast done me c. Thou mayest also Remember that by Letter dated the 22th of the 2d Month 1679. written by my self and three others unto thee and two others 'T was signifyed unto thee on the Occasion of my being rendred a Covenant-Breaker or to that purpose that thou hadst used many Aggravating Expressions concerning me viz. Rendering my practice therein in these Words Below Common Morral Men not for the Society of Civil People short of Christianity a Truce-breaking Spirit a Covenant Breaking Spirit not to be Credited and below some Priests to spread such things behind our Backs in a secret underly way which doth clearly manifest is not the Spirit of Christ nor honesty amongst Men. And in the same Letter I declared That 't was but reasonable that thou shouldest prove the Matter whereof thou accusedst me because I declared thou wast a False Accuser Thou mayest also remember that Thomas Gouldney William Ford and my self signifyed unto thee by our Letter dated the 11th of the 11th Month 78. and because we would be sure it might come to thy Hand we caused it to be sent by a Messenger on purpose to thee and then we gave the Copy of a Letter dated from no Place and subscribed S. H. Thou mayst also remember that in the said Letter these following Reflections were made upon us on the aforesaid Occasion viz. You in a secret underly Way sent Papers behind the backs of them that were concerned this Practice of yours is worse than the Priests and made your selves of no Reputation nor Credit amongst Men such Work c. not fit for the Society of Men all Judicious Civil Men would abhor your Practice made yourselves of no Credit degenerate from Common Civil Men in Breaking Covenants And forasmuch as we were jealous that thou wast the Note The Language used by him and already cited is so near like this that sew will suppose that it dropt from two distinct
the contrary of what is intended for the PRESS I reasonably conclude that whatever is written in the above cited Sheets was there approved I should now proceed to cite a few Sentences out of it which amounts to a Publication of Divisions Page 4. The Lord hath suffered Blindness in part to happen to some through declining their First Love who came out amongst us and had a Part in the Belief and Discovery of the Way of Truth but now some only have the Sheeps-Cloathing and others have lost that too who through a prejudiced Mind are alienated from that Unity of Spirit and Bond of Peace in which we keep our wholsome Practices which we have received in the Unity and Order of the Gospel of Peace and Truth of Christ Jesus in the Fellowship of the Spirit in Bowels of Mercy being like-minded and of one accord in whatsoever things are True Just Honest and of good Report not that we should think of them only but be in the Practice of them as we are In the same Page it is further thus written But to our Burthen and Grief we find amongst some a Contrary Spirit that will not subject to Unity in wholsome Practices amongst us and that will needs Interpose to destroy Unity in some Places and obtrude it self to Confound our wholsome Order and Practices received amongst us as a Church and People and through this contrary Spirit and Prejudiced Mind the Accuser of the Brethren is broken out under a specious Pretence crying Liberty of Conscience Liberty of Conscience in Opposition to those needful convenient and wholsome Practices exercised amongst us in outward Things Also Page 5th thus This Note An accusing Spirit is now accounted a Confounder of Order by this Rule may not the Accusers of I. W. and I. S. be accounted Confounders of Order Accusing Opposing Dividing Spirit that is at work in this our Day to confound Order against the Peaceable Government of Christ amongst his People This Dividing Accusing Prejudicial Worker would introduce a Belief that an Apostacy is Entring and we are gone from the Beginning and First Principle and the Power lost and now Forms are setting up and Imposition on Consciences and the like and amongst whom is all this say they but amongst us who are in Unity of Spirit both in Faith and Practices and 't is amongst such that they imagine this Fearful Imposture and Arbitrary Rule Imposing Prescriptions and Laws on the tender Consciences of the Weak is now gotten up to exercise and so the Liberty of the tender Conscience is lost and you say they are intangled with the Yoak of Bondage to this Day And Page 10th thus Inasmuch as the envious Worker is suffered to proceed that would even race out the Foundation of Christ's Kingdom and Government under which his Subjects do only own their Christian-Freedom and true Liberty of Conscience c. In the 12th Page it is thus written And he meaning G. F. as by his Name before cited in the same Page appears was moved of the Lord to advise to a Womens Meeting c. and when Dear G. F. declared unto us what the Lord had made known unto him by his Power that there should be a Womens Meeting that so all the Sick the Weak the Widdow and the Fatherless should be Note here is no mention made of bringing Marriages before them minded and looked after in their Distresses And Page the 13th thus I have a word in my Heart to say unto you all Back-Sliders Obstructors Opposers and such as Countenance them secretly of this our heavenly Order of Men and Womens Meetings which the Lord by his Power hath set up and further thus You that have despised Dignities to speak Evil of the Servants of the Lord such that faithfully have laboured amongst us from the Beginning which the Lord hath found worthy of double Honour for I do know and the Lord hath sealed it in my Heart that that Spirit which hath opposed the Blessed Unity and Order of Truth in those our Mens and Womens Meetings shall never prosper nor they who are in it inwardly to God without Repentance And in the 15th Page 't is thus written And a true Sense hath been upon me of our Dear Friends up and down the Nation of their great Tryal and Exercise that hath been upon them because of this Wicked Dividing Spirit and especially in my Native Country viz. Willshire Thus much out of the aforesaid Sheets to manifest that this Treatise containes not the first printed and published Papers evidencing Divisions amongst the People called Quakers I am now sensible some may be apt thus to Object If the Meeting held on every Second Day whereof thou makes mention may be Justifyed in approving the aforesaid sheels to be printed yet it can be Plea to Justify thy Printing because thou hast descended more particularly to describe wherein the Difference doth consist and hast mentioned some Names of both Parties concerned in the Difference But in the aforecited Sheets we find but some Names of one Party only viz. G F. and the two Subscribers of the said two Sheets Answ I confess the latter Part of the Objection to be true but yet not sufficient for any to condemn my printing who may Justify the printing of the aforesaid Sheets For if the mentioning of one particular Matter wherein the Difference is reputed to consist even as in the said Sheets it is be according to Truth in one Party I know not why the mentioning of more may not be justifiable in the other Party and if it be justifyable to mention a Part of the Names of one Party concerned in the Difference why not also of the other And though in the aforesaid Sheets there is not so particular a Description wherein the Differences do consist as in this Treatise is mentioned Yet the understanding Reader may collect many things of importance from it and in particular that in the Sense of the Subscribers thereof and such as are at Unity with them who may reasonably be taken to be of one Party they are such as are for True Love Unity Order of the Gospel of Peace Fellowship of the Spirit Bowels of Mercy and things that are True Honest Just and a good Report c. And that the other Party whom they oppose are such as are for Disorder Confusion unto whom Blindness hath happened and that they are declined from their First Love having only the Sheeps-Cloathing of Prejudiced Minds Opposing Dividing Confounding Order against the Peaceable Government of Christ Envious Workers that would raze at the very Foundation of Christs Government Despisers of Dignity c. All which leads me to this Observation that since no matter of Fact is signifyed to evidence any under the Profession of Truth worthy of those General Reflections nor yet any thing referred to for Evidence I may reasonably conclude that the Intended Opposition to Christ's Government is in their Sense no other than a supposed Dislike
upon some others to obey and submit and that such as are in the true Feeling and Sense will find it their places to obey and be one with the Church in such like cases and that its such that have lost their sense and feeling of the Life of the Body that discent and are disobedient under the false pretence of Liberty To this we answer First that General Meeting doth usually consist only of such Persons as pretend a Freedom in their Spirits to go thither or have Outward Business calling them to the place where it is usually held and though it hath been accounted a Meeting of Ministring Friends yet of late Years we are very certain it hath consisted and so for the future may of some other Persons professing the Truth that will take upon them to assemble amongst them and to be very plain we cannot but appeal to the Consciences of all such Honourable Friends who are both intelligent and impartial whether some who have usually there assembled or may pretend right to be Members thereof have not been false Accusers and Man-pleasers and many of them a sort of Persons who being Lovers of Preheminence and Time-servers take that as an Opportunity to appear unto others that which they are not in themselves On the whole matter 't is evident to us that some Persons uncertain in number as well as to Persons and Qualifications do take upon them to call themselves a General Meeting and though such when met may on that foot take upon them to ordain and appoint certain things condemn some Friends as Rending Seperate Spirits and approve of others as Faithfull Bretheren and that as they may say in the Name of the Lord yet it is not likely to have any more place with us on that account than if they spoke in their Own Name since 't was never evidenced to our Consciences that they had any Call from God to act and give forth all those things which they have taken upon them Objection But suppose some Persons in their respective Countries should undertake to Meet together Quarterly and at such Quarterly Meetins choose two Persons to go to the said General Meeting as was endeavoured the last Year To this we answer We deny that it can be agreeable to the Truth for such to assert that from thence they are invested with Power to Ordain and Appoint certain things unto which others as Members of Christs Body ought therefore to yeild Obedience whilst not perswaded by Christs Light in their Consciences of their Duty therein First Because though such Quarterly Meetings as men may be capable to choose Persons yet they are not capable to invest them with a suitable Power since 't is taken for granted that the Authority of all those Meetings ought to be the Power of God which man is not capable to confer neither have those Meetings affirmed they are Secondly Because no Outward Order Counsel or Advice is sufficient Ground for any man to Practise this or t'other thing so as thereby to find Acceptance with the Lord until the Conscience of such an one by the Light of Christ Jesus be convinced thereof For every Action in relation to the things of God that springs not from an enlightned convinced Conscience is but the fruit of a liseless Form without the Power and seems not to square with this Doctrine draw water out of your own Wells let it be your own and not anothers nor yet with that Doctrine which hath often been sounded in our Ears to gather us from the Lo heres and the Lo theres But yet we are sensible that this further Objection may be raised viz. Obj. * Note in the manuscriptfirst made mention of in the Preface the Ground of this Objection from the Words and Writings of divers Persons is cited out of the second part of the said Manuscript but their Names for the reasons in the Presace are omitted here 'T is true Friends in the Beginning were turned to the Light in their own Consciences as their Guide but when it pleased the Lord to gather so great a Number into the Knowledge and Belief of the Truth as were in few Years gathered then the Heavenly Motion came upon G. F. as the Lords Anointed and Chosen having the Care of the Churches as being the great Apostle of Christ Jesus and as one whom the Lord had ordained to be in that place amongst the Children of Light in this our Day as Moses was amongst the Children of Israel in his Day to set forth Methods and Forms of Church Government and to establish Monthly and Quarterly Meetings of Men and of Women distinct from Men and these Meetings since are called the Church whose Counsel Advice and Judgment as Occasion should offer is to be submitted unto by every one who professes himself a Member of the Church of Christ and that we ought to believe as the Church believes else why should an Eminent Friend in the sixteenth Page of his Bookthus say I affirm that the true Church is in the true Faith that is in God and we must either believe thus as the true Church believes or else it were but both a Folly and Hypocrisie to profess our selves Members thereof And so in the same Page proceeds to manifest that he who seems to own the Church of Christ as a Member of her and yet tells the World that it is a most dangerous position that we are to believe as the Church believes is a treacherous Enemy to the Church of Christ From this Objection these three Positions seem to be deducible First That the Lord hath ordained G. F. to be in that Place amongst the Children of Light in this our Day as Moses was amongst the Children of Israel in his Day Secondly That monthly and quarterly Meetings are called the Church and ought to be submitted to Thirdly That 't is Folly and Hypocrisy to profess our selves Members of the true Church and yet not believe thus as the true Church believes SECT II. An Answer to the First Position deducible from an Objection raised toward the conclusion of the first Section to wit That the Lord hath ordained G. F. to be in that place amongst the Children of Light in this our Day as Moses was among the Children of Israel in his Day THe Lord under the First Covenant promised To raise up a Prophet like unto Moses whom the People were to hear in all things Deut. 18.15 This Prophet spoken of was Christ Jesus who in the fullness of Time appeared upon the Earth and then 't was the Duty of the Sons and Daughters of Men to hearken unto his Voice since he ascended on high the Father according to the Testimony of his Son Christ hath sent unto us the Comforter the Spirit of Truth who is to lead and guide us into all Truth this Spirit we witness to be in us according to the Testimony of the Scriptures It shall be in you Our Testimony now is that it 's
on this wise Choose from amongst you the faithfull yet such a limitation we have cause to believe will not now be born by some 't is well if the ground thereof in our opposers be not to bring in the multitude if they can and that under a pretence that all Friends in Truth may have free access that so the Generality may be on their side for of late Mens Meetings are known to consist of many such who if any ought to be Governed are much fitter to be Governed then appear as Governours and who we are well satisfied in our Consciences would of themselves be more modest than to appear in such Meetings as Governours were they not prompted to be there The secret end thereof as we have cause to doubt is for the carying on that which we believe Truth will never own And as to the Apostacy never entering the generality more we say may the Lord preserve us all so stayd in his Unchangable Truth as that we may never apostatise from it nor be drawn away from the hope of the Gospel by false Prophets and seducing Spirits for we do firmly believe that as many of those who formerly were in the Truth and do now account us Dark Spirits because we cannot be at Unity with them in such actions as we account Persecution against antient Brethern are already Apostatized and doubtless they with their adherents account themselves the generality yet we hope better things than so We now come to say somthing to these foregoing words viz. That in London and other part of this Nation where such Meetings where usually held the sense of the Generallity hath been taken for the sense of such Meetings To this we answer if thereby is intended that the generality may claim power to declare that their sense is the sense of the Meeting it opens a Door whereby the Reputation and Honour of Truth as Profest owned and practized amongst the Freinds thereof may fall in one day For when these Meetings were assented unto we cannot say establisht by any man we lookt upon our selves all Servants one unto another and not Masters and Rulersover one another and so had then no occasion given us to discourse of Authority but when there was we well Remember that we ascribed all Authority unto the appearance of the invisible Power of God and so no encouragment was given by us that any one Man or Men should take upon him or them to Rule and Govern in such Meetings but our expectations were that every Member should there appear in subjection to Christ the Head and higher Power unto which as Members of his Body we owe Obedience In this sense we readily embraced the Counsel to Meet together to Serve but not to Bear Rule over one another's Consciences and the matters intended by us to be transacted in those Meetings and by others also as far as we understood were chiefly To take care of the poor the fatherless and the widdow And that if any professed the Truth and dishonour'd the same by prophane and evil Conversation we might by such ways and meanes as the Lord on every occasion might direct not then thinking that the day would ever come wherein an Outward Directory should be placed as a Judg over our Consciences Indeavor to reclaim such from the Evil of their Ways and for these Services we are sensible that Meetings are proper and therefore do continue in the services thereof yet never thought that we should have seen the Day wherein any professing the truth would have attempted to treat on such a Subject as this viz. How far doth this Government extend in matters Spiritual and purely conscientious and not only so but be approved as the aforesaid Book of Government wherein the said sentence is written hath been by a Meeting that takes upon them to take Care as they pretend that nothing be Printed whereby the Truth may be dishonour'd Alas Friends can such appear to us as men staid in the Unchangable Truth who have suffered and highly contended for Liberty of Conscience and that Christ alone is Lord over it and is its only Lawgiver and yet now reckon that Mens-Meetings which we or at least several of us do know having been much conversant therein even from the begining to this day have most usually consisted of Men Vncertain in Numbers as well as to Qualifications and Persons may assume a Power over Conscience under the Notion of the Church of Christ Truly Friends we cannot but testify that our Souls have no Unity with such things and cannot but look upon the Promoters thereof as Lovers of Preheminency more than Lovers of God having let in a dark seperate rending dividing Spirit from the Truth and opened a Door whereby as great Darkness may be brought over the People As ever was in any Age under the profession of Christian Religion Objection But perhaps some persons may thus Object We cannot but have more Charity for some at least of those who are concerned in these things you strike at and cannot believe they intend an imposition on any of our Consciences for when we have been in Meetings with them we have been Witnesses that the Life hath been raised and our Souls have been refreshed through their Ministry and in their Epistles they tell us how eminently the Lord appears amongst them unto which we cannot but give Credit because when they are with us the Life in us answers to the Life in them as Face answers Face in a Glasse but when those whom they oppose do speak then Deadness Dryness and Barrenness appears besides many of the Ministring Friends have exhorted us and as they say in the Name of the Lord that we ought to shut out Jealousies the Reasoning and the Wisdom telling us as before is hinted That the Apostacy shall never enter the generality more and that we ought to have an eye to the Brethren Answ This Objection may seem very weighty with some especially such who may conclude that if they are of the true Brotherhood the Lord will give them an inward sense when they wait upon him whereby a Testimony according to the Truth may arise from them in every Case wherein they may Concern their thoughts but alas 't is either the fruit of Weakness or Presumption so to conclude with respect to every Brother in what estate soever which hath been sufficiently evidenced to us by the Fruits of those who have taken upon them to Judge the Merit of a Cause without hearing of both Parties of which more anon Besides if we do but consider that the Scriptures of Truth do testify there are diversities of Gifts diversities of Administrations and Operations and yet by the same Spirit it were sufficient to prompt us to be so Serious and weighty in this day of Tryal as to be found waiting every one in his own Gift that so all may be preserved and not meddle with things that are too high for them He that is not
sensible of the Danger in running beyond his Gift and is so puft up with Spiritual Pride as to conclude himself more Faithful more Holy more Circumspect more Discerning than his Brother thinking of himself not only better than of his Brother but in other things above what is meet contrary to the Counsel of the Apostle who exhorted Not to think of our selves more highly than we ought may easily run himself on this Rock of Judging those whom the Lord Judgeth not especially if such an one give himself liberty to Judge from an apprehended Inward Sense grounded on no Outward Knowledge or Evidence That now which is with us farther to signify in relation to this matter is this we have great cause to doubt that this kind of Weakness or Presumption hath been and is yet like to be one meanes by which the variance amongst such as have been formerly at Unity may continue because 't is well known that when Testimonies have arisen against some persons in publick as dark seperate and dividing Spirits and that some such as have been dissatisfy'd have desired to know what is the Matter and what is the Fruit whereby it may be evidenced The Answer commonly is Let the Testimonyes of Friends arise this Word when it Springs from such who have been Instruments to beget into this Faith that we ought to shut out the Reasoning the Wisdom and Jealousy and that without distinction and that the Apostacy shall never enter the Generality more and that we ought to have an eye to the * We would not be understood that 't is not fit to have an Eye to faithful Brethren in any thing but yet we cannot but take notice that it sounds not very comely out of the mouthes of those with respect to themselves who have in publick frequently thus Testified We Preach not our selves look not unto us but unto the Lord and the measure of his Grace in your selves that 's given to you to profit withal Brethren easily raises the like Testimony that such an one is of a dark seperate Spirit and then this comes to be spread abroad as a Seal to that which cannot be evidenced either by Doctrine or Conversation as if the Tree were not now to be known by its Fruit as in daies past and so whilst they have been in the Exercise of one part of the Counsel viz. Excluding the Reason and the Wisdom by which means some have been betrayed to act contrary to all Reason and all Wisdom they have acted contrary to the other part of the counsel which was to shut out the Jealousy For had they not entertained Unrighteous Jealousy we are perswaded that they would not have testified against such as have approved themselves unto us no other then Faithful Ministers of Christ Sound in Doctrine and as Blamless in Conversation so far as ever we knew as any Friends And thus the Variance we fear is but too likely to continue Now we appeal to the Witness of God Whether this kind of proceeding be not the Fruit of a Dark Rending Spirit that seperates from the Truth But to come a little nearer to answer other parts of the Objection viz. When we have been in Meetings with them we have been Witnesses that the Life hath been raised and our soules have been refreshed and that When those whom they oppose do speake nothing but Dryness Deadness and Barrenness appears We desire every one who may thus affirm seriously to weigh and consider First Whether if contrary to thine own Principle thou hast let in Jealousy this Jealousy may not darken thee so as to take Light for Darkness and Darkness for Light and that to be True Refreshment which is no other but a rejoycing in those imaginary sparks which thou by a false fire hast kindled for when the eye is not single to God and fixt upon that Teacher that cannot be removed into a Corner but instead thereof hast an eye unto man and to things that are without weighing not the matters wherein thy mind is concerned in the equal Ballance of the Sanctuary it may be Just with the Lord to suffer thee to be overshadowed with a Vail of Darkness and to become ignorant of the Mysteries of the Kingdom of God as they who are without are lest thou see with thine eye and understand with thy heart and be converted and saved even as it was said by Christ himself concerning them who are without Mark 4.11 12. For we know that when Truth was Preach't amongst us in the beginning and the Light of Christ Jesus shining in our Consciences magnified as our only Guide the Gift of the Father and Appearance of Christ Jesus the great Ordinance and Power of God unto Salvation our souls were wonderfully reacht and affected with the sound thereof believing that the day was then come unto us wherein the Promise of the Father according to the Words of Christ was fulfilled unto us viz. But the Comforter which is the Spirit of Truth which the Father will send in my Name he shall Teach you all things and Guide you into all Truth And thus the Eyes of our Understandings came to be opened that we saw most of the Professours then in being to be but in the Gentile nature and come no further than the Outward Court which the Angel as John Testified was not to measure for was not their Preacher Outward their Rule Outward their Order Outward their Ordinances Outward and the Tokens and Marks of Membership in their Church Outward And when those Outward Things were magnified and the Preaching of the Light of Christ Jesus as the Guide to the Father degraded by our Opposers we were even ready to fear on their behalf that they were of that number who saw but did not perceive did hear but not understand Our breathing now unto the Lord is That none of those who have formerly received the Truth in the Love thereof may continue so hardened as to see and not Perceive to hear and not Understand and so in a dark and vailed Estate conclude that as * Note This Sentence viz. as Heirs of the Gospel Life Salvation take your possessions hath been of late years srequently exprest by G. F. when speaking to friends by way of encouragement to continue Mens and Womens Meetings distinct from the publick Meetings for Worship by which meanes 't is much doubted that some ignorant People have concluded that their frequenting those meetings is an evidence that they are Heirs of Life and Salvation Heirs of the Gospel Life and Salvation they are entered into an Heavenly Possession whenas the Possessions they are entered into are but some outward Observations which may more properly be accounted to relate to the Outward Court than to the New Jerusalem and Heirs of the Kingdom of God but rather that they may so perceive and understand the things of God as to bow to the appearance of Christ Jesus in themselves as the only Lawgiver
hath opened that there is not any other way by which all things relating unto the Kingdom of God and Salvation of mankind comes to be revealed and this appears agrecable to the Scriptures of truth John 14.26 2 Cor. 4.2 3 4 5 6 7. 2 Tim. 3.15 16. We are now sensible that some who may peruse the foregoing Scriptures may be ready thus to say You seem to propound two ways by which the things appertaining to the Kingdom of God and Salvation of Mankind have been and are revealed viz. the Spirit of Truth or Appearance of Christ by his Light as One Way and the Scriptures of Truth as Another Way To this we answer The Way we propose is but One though the Manifestation thereof may seem various to Man viz. sometimes through Instruments and sometimes through Himself For though Paul wrote unto Timothy unto whom he was made an Instrument and therefore called him his Son telling him 2 Tim. 3.15 16. That the holy Scriptures were able to make him wise unto Salvation and that they were profitable for Doctrine for reproof for correction for instruction in righteousness yet 't is spoken with respect to those Scriptures that are given forth by inspiration of God and with this limitation viz. thorow the saith that is in Christ Jesus Whereon we observe that the Scriptures given forth by inspiration are but as an Instrument made serviceable to the Reader through the Spirit whereby faith in Christ comes to be raised even as a Man indued with the Spirit of God may in the hand of the Lord be an Instrument through sound Doctrine and wholsom exhortation to open the inward Eye of the Mind which hath been darkned and to awaken the Conscience which hath been defiled that so man may come to be renewed in the spirit of his Mind unto God through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and the Conscience purified from Dead Works through the blood of the Covenant to serve the Lord in Truth and Righteousness and therefore we reasonably conclude That there is but One way though various in Operation and Manifestation through which the Things appertaining to the Kingdom of God and Salvation of Mankind comes to be revealed which is by the powerful appearance of Christ by his spirit and light convicting the Conscience converting and renewing the Mind unto God sometimes through Scriptures given forth by inspiration sometimes through Man as an Instrument and sometimes by the appearance of the Spirit and Light in Man without the Assistance of such Instruments but yet the end of all is that faith in Christ may be raised wherein as the Evidence of things not seen by the Carnal Eye the Light of the Knowledge of the Glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ is beheld which is that Treasure whereof the Apostle spoke that is hid in our Earthen Vessels that the excellency of that Power might be of God and not of man These things being duly considered this Testimony doth naturally arise that neither the Scriptures of Truth nor any other writings whatsoever though given forth by the Spirit of God itself can properly be termed so profitable a Rule unto us as the Light and Spirit from which they were given forth and therefore the Eye of our Mind ought chiefly to be unto the Spiritual Appearance of Christ by his Light and Spirit in us as that Unerring Guide which never can be removed into a corner Besides we find the Scripture itself testifying That no Prophecy of the Scripture is of any Private interpretation 2 Pet. 1.20 that is it ought not to be interpreted but by the Holy Ghost through whose Motions 't was given forth for all other Interpretations may truly be termed Private From whence we observe that if the Prophecies in the Scriptures of Truth should be read unto us from Morning to Evening and from Evening to Morning again we might receive little Benefit or Profit thereby unless the Eye of our Mind come to be stayed in the Unchangeable Light and Spirit of God whereby the meaning of the spirit through them out of all Private Interpretations hath been and is signified unto Man CHAP. II. Touching the Light of Christ within and Exhortation to Obedience thereof THose Faithful Messengers of the Gospel of Christ whom the Lord in these latter daies sent forth for the gathering of the Nations unto the Faith and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ who is the Way the Truth and the Life that their souls might be saved in the Day of the Lord frequently sounded in our ears on this wise Turn in your minds unto the Light within meaning thereby the Light of Christ within which shews you that a Tye is not of the Truth and as through Faith you come to be Obedient unto the Light Within and that measure of Grace given by God and received by you so will you come to be made Partalters of that great Salvation This Doctrine was acceptable to many who in the Love of Truth received the joyful Sound thereof but unto others mean and despised who notwithstanding that Testimony accounted the Scriptures of Truth a More Sure Rule and Guide unto the Father The consideration whereof at this time hath been as an obligation to examine whether the aforesaid Doctrine so acceptable to some and despised by others be consonant to the Scriptures of Truth which task is the more freely undertaken because the aforesaid Doctrine hath become so great a stumbling block unto many as that they have thought it a sufficient evidence that the professors thereof have been out of the path of truth readily objecting on this wise Objection Do you not think that those Jews who crucified Christ acted not from the Light Within Since some of them at least verily thought they did God good service therein Having thus premised 't is now needful to examine what may be spoken from the Scriptures of Truth for the Light within and to turn in the Mind unto the same to obey it c. In order thereunto we find John the Evangelist thus testifying Joh. 1.4.9 In him meaning the Word which was God was Life and the Life was the Light of men That was the true Light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world I am the Light of the World John 8.12 he that followeth me shall not walk in Darkness but shall have the Light of Life Joh. 12.46 I am come a Light into the World that whosoever believeth in me should not abide in Darkness These Scriptures plainly shew that we are to believe in and follow Christ who is that Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world Objection However some objecting may say What 's this to a Light Within 't is very plain that John the Evangelist meant nothing of a Light Within in your sense but of the Personal Appearance of Christ Without as that Word which was made Flesh and as Evidence produce what the same Evangelist saith Chap.
Spirit Neither did we dare to give any other than Plain Language to any single Person not only because it was according to the Propriety of Speech but because we were sensible that there was a Will in Man which was ready to hold the Faith of our Lord Jesus Christ with respect of Persons and that this VVill is to be crossed that so a Spirit of Pride and Partiality might not be nourished in any And on the same ground that we have been led into the use of Plain Language and Plain Habit have we also been led not to use the word Master unless unto such as are really Masters and unto whom as Masters Obedience was or is due from such as have or may use that Title though some may have ignorantly thought that the words of Christ unto his Disciples viz. neither be ye called Masters was our only ground Obj. Do you place Religion in Thee and Thou and Not putting off your Hat and calling men by their proper Names without adjoining the word Master and going plainer in your Apparel than some others may Ans To this we answer VVe place Religion in keeping our Consciences void of Offence towards God and if thy Conscience be convinced by the Light of Christ that the words Thee or Thou to a single person is not only more proper than You but that which on the aforesaid consideration thou oughtest to use and that thou oughtest not to use the word Master according to the custom of the world unto such an one as is not thy Master then it becomes thee to bridle thy Tongue and express thy self according to such a Conviction else thou mayest only seem to be religious when thy Religion is vain and so likewise may we say that if thou hast the like conviction with relation to the Putting off thy Nat and going in Plain Apparel thou oughtest so to do lest the contrary become Sin unto thee since thou canst not pretend after such a Conviction that Freedom therein which may stand with the Faith that is in our Lord Jesus Christ Obj. We have observed that your Friends have in many particular respects behaved themselves so cross unto the Customs and Fashions of all others as that they have appeared not only Rude but as if their Ignorance were so great as to conclude that the taking up the Cross of Christ doth consist in acting a Cross unto all other Societies of People whatsoever To this we answer If any have given just Occasion for this Objection 't is to be lamented because the great sign of taking up the Cross is to deny Self according to the words of Christ If any man will come after me Mat 16.24 let him deny himself and take up his Cross and follow me Besides we do testifie the principle of Truth leads none to be Rude either in Word or Action nor yet to cross the Customs and Fashions of other Societies which in themselves are Comely Decent and of Good Report The Apostle tells us That the Preaching of the Cross is to them that perish 1 Cor. 1.18 foolishness but unto us which are saved it is the power of God An Earthly-Spirited man may become singular and cross unto all others and yet not denying himself through the Operation of the Power of God may therein be an enemy to the Cross of Christ Another man may be made Partaker of the Power of God unto Salvation and yet not led by his Spirit to act cross unto all others though through the denial of Self he may be truly exercised in the Cross of Christ and therein acting many things which some through Envy or want of right Understanding may term the Fruit of Rudeness and Ignorance when not so in itself To conclude therefore we say 't is Good for every one in all things to mind the inward divine and spiritual Teacher that so none may run before that Guide and then doubtless such will be led to take up the Cross in denial of Self and not be active in any thing that may justly be termed Rude or Ignorant but in those things that are Comely Decent and of Good Report CHP. VII Touching Swearing THose unto whom the Lord hath given a divine understanding have declared that under the Dispensation of the Gospel of Christ 't is not agreeable to the truth to Swear in any Case whatsoever This position is justifiable according to the Scriptures of Truth and is not disagreeable to the light within Matth. 5.33 34 35 36 37. 'T is thus said by Christ Again ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time Thou shalt not forswear thy self but shalt perform unto the Lord thine Oaths But I say unto you Swear not at all neither by Heaven for it is God's Throne nor by the Earth for it is his Footstool neither by Jerusalem for it is the City of the great King Neither shalt thou swear by thy head because thou caust not make one Hair white or black But let your Communication be yea yea nay nay for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil These words of Christ are in themselves a positive prohibition not only of vain Oaths but of all other whatsoever which were accounted lawful and though some have objected that vain Oaths were only forbidden by Christ Heb. 6.16 because the Author to the Hebrews thus writeth For men verily Swear by the Greater and an Oath for Confirmation is to them an End of all Strife thence inferring that under the Gospel-Dispensation Oaths by way of testimony for ending of Controversie were lawful yet these words will not bear any such inserence for the words in themselves do only signifie what was practised by men but nothing is said in justification of that Practice and if we peruse the 13th and 17th verses of the same Chapter 't will thence appear that the Occasion whereon these words are written was by way of Illustration or Comparison in relation to the promise which God made unto Abraham and confirmed by an Oath Moreover 't is evident that Christ intended the Prohibition of something which was lawful which could not be if nothing be prohibited save Vain Oaths because such the Law allowed not Obj. On this Subject some may readily thus object Do you believe that the Light Within would have directed you to have denyed the taking of an Oath before a Magistrate on any Occasion whatsoever had the Scriptures been silent in this case Ans The Matter of Swearing especially the Form thereof as it relates to the practice of the People of England is but an Humane Political Institution not justifiable by any Testimony given in the Scriptures of Truth either under the first or second Covenant and introduced on this score as supposing a greater Dread might lie on the Consciences of Mankind to Speak the Truth and Perform a Covenant when sworn so to do than when not But those who are guided by the light of Christ Jesus do know
the Name of Jesus who is given of the Father to be Salvation to the Ends of the Earth I now come to give the Reader a perticular Account of some Assertions and Scripture Quotations relating to Government amongst one part of the People called Quakers published in Print by Robert Barclay together with Answers thereto contained in a Manuscript given forth by my self who was concerned in my Conscience so to do for the sakes of such as being weak are apt to be precipitated into a Zealous Observation of other mens Lines made ready to their hands when not led thereinto by a Measure of Gods Gift and Grace in themselves and so may justly be termed like unto those who render for Doctrine the Traditions of Men. The aforesaid Assertions Quotations and particular Answers thereto some Years past sent to Steven Crisp and another publick Person as well as the Author of the said Book doth follow as proper in relation to this Treatise touching Government and if the Reader shall find any thing therein which hath been herein already treated upon or in the first part of the Christian-Quaker distinguish'd from the Apostate and Innovator I hope he will not be offended thereat since the ensuing Lines were written on a Particular Occasion though of a General Concern relating to the People called Quakers and that also before it was designed that the said first part should be prepared much less committed to the Press However that which may well plead my Excuse for the Readers Expence of Time on such an Occasion is this There is very little Discourse of which hath been mentioned before and that which is is very material to be observed as a proper Looking-Glass in some respect to distinguish the true Christian termed in Derision Quaker from the Apostate and Innovator The Innovations AND Scripture-Misapplications of R. B. Detected BEING Part of some Observations on his small Treatise Intituled The ANARCHY of the RANTERS c. Wherein he saith The Antient Apostolick Order of the Church of Christ is Re-establisht amongst them meaning the People of the Lord called in Derision Quakers This small Treatise being weighed in the equal Ballance this ensuing Discourse is become a two-fold Defence for those of the People of God called Quakers who have retained their First Love and Integrity for the Truth and Right Understanding of the only Fundamental Principle thereof viz. the Light Wherein they are vindicated from the Aspersions of those who may accuse them of despising of Christ's Government and indulging that Liberty which Truth condemns on the one hand and from such who may calumniate them for endeavouring to establish the outward Orders and Prescriptions of Men under the Notion of the Orders of the Church of Christ to become a Bond on others to obey though they see it not their Duty on the other hand Shewing that the Place where Christs Government hath been is and ought to be exalted is in the Heart and that 't is not in the Power and so cannot be the Duty of man to establish that Government which is already on Christs Shoulders Given forth in the Year 1676. By WILLIAM ROGERS 1 Cor. 3.11.21 For other Foundation can no man lay than that which is already laid Let no man Rejoyce in Men. To the READER THE afore-mentioned Treatise of R. B. is the first that to my Remembrance or Knowledge is under the Name of one called a Quaker extant in Print whereby the Adversaries to that Antient Truth whereof they have been Witnesses may have Cause to be Jealous First That that People who have been so great Contenders against that Spirit which would have enforced Outward Forms and Orders of Men relating to Conscience though under the Notion of Assemblies calling themselves the Church of Christ should now be more exercised to encourage their Brethren to follow the Orders Traditions Examples or Commandments of any relating to Matters of Conscience and the Things of God though under the most plausible Pretences whatsoever than that never-erring and infallible Guide which hath been so often exalted amongst them viz. Christ's Light in the Conscience Secondly That though the People called Quakers have pleaded much for the Exercise of their Consciences and for the Liberty thereof which one Eminent amongst them hath described to be a meer Liberty of the Mind in believing or dis-believing c. Yet there is amongst them who hath endeavoured to insinuate a Belief that the Church in matters of Conscience may not only give positive Sentences which may be Obligatory upon Believers but also that the Pretences of any refusing to submit on account they see it not will not excuse them from being really guilty of disobeying God and yet doth not manifest by any outward Description Where or What Assembly is the Church of Christ Now though I cannot vindicate the Author of the said Treatise from giving occasion of these and such like Jealousies yet I know there are many of those People yet in being whose Integrity to God is so great whose Steadfastness in the Unchangable Truth is so sure and whose Understanddings in the pure Principle thereof are so clear that they give not occasion for such Jealousies but have a Testimony in their Hearts against all such that do knowing this that whosoever builds on any other Foundation than that which hath been already laid viz. Christ the Lord to whom all Power is given to Rule and Reign and who alone is Lord over the Conscience and the only Law-giver shall be confounded and brought to nought W. R. The matters occasionally discourst in this ensuing Treatise are in some measure described in what followes First I Affirm that though there hath been and ought to be a Government in the Church of Christ unto which every Member of the said Church ought to be subject yet it doth not appear that the Outward Form thereof and all Matters cognizable thereby are so exactly described in the Scriptures or else where as that the Members thereof by any such outward Description as a sufficient meanes may so exactly be exercised therein as to find acceptance with the Lord of Life That at this day nothing can be truly called the Exact and perfect Order of this Government but the Power of God and so hath it often been testifyed by the People of the Lord called Quakers which power is of Ability to establish Man but Man not of Ability to establish it and that the Power brings forth its own Form in every Member according to the measure of God's Grace inwardly given received and obeyed and yet I am abundantly satisfyed that Set and Appointed Meetings on certain Prefixt Days being with the joynt concurrence of those Members assembling and from time to time to be assembled to take care of the Poor and discharge other charitable Duties to inspect Marriages that none come together disorderly and to take care that Truth may not be Scandlized through the Backslidings of such who have been in
Basis and Foundation To which I thus say This kind of Language with respect to divers Practices in Discipline amongst the People called Quakers or any outward Form and Order which is or hath been by any called the Order of the Gospel I do not understand to be rightly applicable to those amongst the said People who have retained their first Love to and Savour of the Truth and right Understanding of the Principle thereof not that I would hereby be understood that it s not necessary to be in the Exercise of Outward Order with respect to that Gospel-discipline which becomes the Church of Christ but that which I understand not to be rightly applicable unto them is manifested in what follows Though the principle of Truth in these latter dayes hath and may further lead into the Practice of Outward Order in Discipline with relation to the Church of Christ yet I affirm that part of that Outward Order in Discipline wherein divers of the People of the Lord called Quakers have been acted is such as that there is not the least Footsteps thereof to be found in the Scriptures as exhorted to or as practised by the Apostles I could give many Instances hereof but one shall suffice viz. The Form of Proceedings in Marriages wherein the Scriptures are wholly silent as to the Primitive Christians and tho the Papists pretend to Tradition yet the People of the Lord called Quakers do not Besides 't is evident by the Scriptures of Truth that the Apostles were found in the Practice of that which the People called Quakers do not only out of Conscience to God forbear but have had many Contests with others touching the same as esteeming it though permitted for a season by reason of the Weakness of the People amongst the number of those Outward Ordinances out of which the Lord hath at this day gathered his People witness Water-Baptism The word Order with respect to Outward Government Establish't by the Church of Christ over it self I remember not in the Scriptures of Truth yet much of late is spoken of the Order of the Gospel and of establishing the same and that with respect to Outward Prescriptions and Orders practised or endeavoured to be introduced amongst the People of the Lord called Quakers and in perticular R. B. Page 40. speaks of the Truth and Faith we have been and are in the Lords Hands building up To which I say The Consideration that Christ is the Truth and the great Power of God and that an Establishing in the Faith cannot Properly be termed A building up of Faith gives me occasion to treat a little touching the words establish and build up We know from the testimony of truth in our selves as well as from the Scriptures of Truth without us that we may be Instruments in the hands of the Lord to build up one another in the most Holy Faith in Christ the Truth the Power of God but 't is neither agreeable to the Testimony of Truth in us nor yet the Scriptures of Truth without us for any to account themselves of Ability to establish God's Power for its that by which the World was made Now the Order of the Gospel is the Power of God and nothing else according to the declared sence of our ancient Friends can properly be called the Order of the Gospel but the Power of God for though some outward Form or appearance may be according to the Order of the Gospel yet it can no more properly be called the very Order of the Gospel than the Fruit of a Tree can be called the Tree it self and therefore those who pretend to establish the Order of the Gospel may as well pretend to establish the Power of God it self 'T is true this Power is of Ability to establish Man in the Faith of God's Elect but Man is not of Ability to establish it those who understand the Nature and Tenours of the two Covenants may easily discern the Truth hereof Under the First Covenant which was outward the mind of God was manifested to the People from the Priests Lips which were to preserve Knowledge and this Covenant did consist in divers Outward Ordinances c. establisht and impos'd upon the People until the Time of Reformation Under the Second Covenant being the New Covenant or Gospel dispensation the Mind and Will of God is manifested in his People through the Revelation of his Spirit according to that of Paul Rom. 1.19 That which may be known of God is manifested in them Christ also said John 14.26 The Comforter which is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in my name he shall teach you all things The Law under this covenant is written in the heart Heb. 8.10 11. I will write my Law in their Hearts they shall not teach every man his neighbour and every man his brother saying Know the Lord for all shall Know me c. Here 's not the least ground of encouragement for any man under the New Covenant which was not to be like unto the Old to pretend that Gods Spirit doth or will lead any to establish Outward Orders relating to matters of Conscience as the Order of the Gospel for if that which is to be known of God is manifested in us then though it may be needfull to stir up according as the Lord shall move in his servants the pure Mind in us that so we may be in the Exercise of what God requires through the maifestation of himself in us there is no need to establish any thing without us to shew it If the Spirit of Truth is to lead into all truth those who would be leading us in another way will prove little better then Thieves and Robbers which Climb up another way to enter in than by the door If the Law be written in the heart and that no Obedience finds Acceptance with the Lord but Obedience to his Law from an inward Impulse and Drawing of his Spirit thereunto in our selves there 's no need of establishing Outward Indispensible Rules which may relate to the Conscience to walk by for were it possible so to do and any should yield Obedience on no better ground then because'tis so establish't by such a Man or Assembly of Men this sort of Obedience would find no more acceptance with the Lord than the offering of Swines flesh or the Halt and Blind for a Sacrifice under the First Covenant did For though many may be so Weak as not to know the difference between the two Covenants in some respects yet there are Few of the Lord's People called Quakers but have this undoubted Truth sealed in their hearts That none of their Outward Practices under the Exercise of Christ's Government find's acceptance with the Lord but as they have an Evidence in their Consciences that therein they Answer the measure of Truth in themselves Paul writing to the Colossians thus saith As ye have received Christ Jesus the Lord so walk in him Rooted and built up
Christ's Light and in Subjection unto the Laws appertaining unto his Government which are not written in Tables of Stone but in the Heart according to the Tenour of the New-Covenant Heb. 8.9 10 11. And that those who are Invested with Power from on high may be Instruments in Gods Hand according to the Dispensation thereof given them of God to stir up the Pure Mind in others sometimes by way of Admonition Exhortation and sound Doctrine and sometimes by Charge or Command according as the Spirit of the Lord moves and operates and yet every one of these Operations according to the Dispensation of God is only to stir up the pure Mind that so through a sensible Closing with the Light of the Knowledge of the Glory of God shining in the Heart God's Witness in the Conscience may be raised in Dominion for that 't is according to Truth to affirm that the Admonition Doctrine and Exhortation Charge or Command of any whatsoever cannot be rightly received and imbraced otherwise than according to the Leadings of Christs Light that so it may appear that the Excellency of that Power is of God and not of Men read 2 Cor. 4.5 6 7 8. That the Holy Scriptures give not the least Testimony that the Apostles nor any Persons under the Notion of the Church of Christ endeavoured to Establish any Outward Orders and then term them the Order of the Gospel the Power of God much less so to Establish any Outward Order or Form of Discipline in the Church as that not only a Deviation therefrom but a not Imbracing those Outward Forms or Orders by such Believers who were never in the Practice thereof should be a Token that they were departed from the Faith but their Labours were to Establish the Churches in the Faith and in the Power rather than to build up Forms or Orders having them so Establish'd to be in the Practice of that Form which the Power either had or should lead them into and therefore the Apostle might well say Be ye not unwise but understand what the Will of the Lord is he doth not say what the Will of the Church is but what the Will of the Lord is submitting your selves one to another in the Fear of God According to which Submission I appeal to Gods Witness Whether it may not become as well the Duty of the Brethren to submit to one or two as one or two to submit to the Brethren and whether these kinds of Submission have not been practised amongst the People of the Lord called Quakers in these latter Days And though I say as aforesaid not the Church but what the Will of the Lord is yet hereby I would not be understood to render Christ and his Church divided but rather to shew that his Will who cannot Err is a surer Foundation to Build upon than the Wills of those who if they depart from Christ their Rock may Err. R. B. in his sixth Section treating how far this Government extends Page 39. thus saith This Order reacheth the composing differences as to outward things And further saith We do boldly aver as a People gathered together by the Lord unto the same Faith c. that we have Power and Authority to decide and remove these things amongst our selves On which I thus observe If Differences happen between two Brethren and not through the least intention to wrong each other then the Power of Truth in themselves will constrain such to choose Faithful Brethren skil'd in the Matters wherein they differ to decide the same and accordingly to submit and all this of a willing and ready Mind through the Power of Truth in themselves and not through constraint of others and so in this case here 's no need for any to come to their Brethren and say We do Boldly aver we have Power and Authority to decide c. But suppose this ensuing case should happen viz That two Brethren are at variance touching their Properties and Outward Concerns relating to Meum and Tuum as R. B's terms are and one of them is so departed from Truth in himself as that he will not of a ready Mind submit his Cause to the hearing of Persons to be chosen by themselves indifferently but being Contentious will either go to Law or else so abound in his own sense as nothing shall serve but to be Judge in his own cause If we now enquire what Christ the Truth doth in general direct and wherein this Case may be comprehended which is so great an offence to the other Brother whom Truth constrains to submit his Cause to the Hearing and Judgment of Persons indifferently chosen and that of a willing and ready mind we shall find he thus saith Mat. 18.15 16 17. If thy brother shall Trespasse against thee go tell him his fault between thee and him alone but if he will not hear thee then take with thee one or two more if he shall neglect to hear them tell it unto the Church if he hear not the Church let him be unto thee as an heathen man Christ's words do not here import that the Church hath Power over any man's Worldly Property or Outward Concerns it only saith If he neglect to hear the Church let him be unto thee as an Heathen Man And when a Brother is through the declaration of the Church become so to the other Brother against whom he hath trespassed then the Offended Brother may Justly seek his Remedy if the Offence and Trespass be touching Outward Concerns according to the Just Lawes of men relating to Property But perhaps some may Object thus This relates not to Outward Affaires but to Offences that are of a Spiritual Nature In Answer it may be said As to that the Scripture is wholly silent and therefore every Case wherein one Brother may trespass against another may according to Right Reason be comprehended in it and since the Case is stated between two Brethren and that on an orderly proceeding and admonition of the Church the sentence for not hearing the Church is Let him be unto thee as an Heathen Man to me it seemes to import that the Trespass intended was such an one as in a particular manner is against one Brother more than another and so as probable to be about their outward concernes as any thing else Besides if we do but consider that if a Brother be so much departed from the Truth as after Admonition by the Church not to Joyn with his Brother with whom he is at Variance in the choice of one or more to decide the matter 't is a certain Token that he is out of that which was the bond by which he became center'd into the Heavenly Fellowship of Christ's Body the Church And so then if it really were so that any Assembly under the Notion of the Church of Christ should assume to themselves Power and Authority to decide in Cases relating to Property yet in this and the like Case there can be no
proceeding from the Spirit will be manifest to all who are Truly Faithful who will accordingly submit thereunto not with respect to the Men but the Authority of God manifested in and thorough them so that such as see not this Judgment aright will be Justly Condemnable of God for their not submitting Not as if they should be accepted of God if they did obey before conviction but because they brought this Blindness upon themselves thorough the unfaithfullness and unwatchfullness which renders them both guilty of the Blindness and of the Disobedience occasioned by it Now the vastness of the Difference that is here manifest cannot but be obvious to any that will read and consider this Impartially without prejudice Thus I have passed thorough all the things that I have understood any to scruple at there being nothing else that I remember which is not either Relative to some of the Particulars before mentioned or included in them but if any Wonder why I have closed this method and not rather made a formal Reply to W. R's Papers I hope these following reasons will satisfy all sober and truly Peaceable-minded Friends who Love Truth 's Prosperity more than Jangling as a sufficient reason for my so doing First forasmuch as the greater part of what W. R. has writ is wholly built upon the Particulars heretofore mentioned W. R's Eleventh Obsevation which Particulars being cleared and * his Mistakes therein removed [l] [l] To signify that I wrest his Words or put a Disadvantageous meaning contrary to the signification of his words is a false insinuation neither did I mistake nor yet so signifie by letter as anon from the Observations on that letter termed mine will be made appear for I put no meaning on his lines but what the very Express Grammatical sense thereof Compared one with the other would bear as will sufficiently appear to such as will be at the Paines to compare my answer to his Booke of Government with the Matters I pretend to answer and though he pretends to leave his case herein to the Readers Judgement yet he Impatiently records his own unjust Judgment first on this wise surely it is not Answerable to that candor and Justice that W. R. lays claim to meaning as his Express Words import because I doubted that from the words of the Apostle Rule Command Ordain c. R. B ' s. meaning was that some things others ought to obey whether they see it their Duty yea or nay Alas had R. B. but considered that in this his very Postscript he Renders it absurd to conclude that men should not be Condemned for ommiting their Duty because they see it not and that in his Book of Government he saith neither will the pretences of any contradicting them or refusing to submit on the account they see it not excuse them of being guilty of disobeying God Me thinks then he would have forborn to Judge me as aforesaid and though he signifies that I make a Digression concerning the Second Daies Meetings in London I say it cannot Properly be called a Digression since 't is Matter of Observation on such as were concerned in the Approbation of R. B 's Book of Government besides Robert Barclays Disingenuity is apparent in signifying that I Judge the Apostle Paul and yet sayeth not wherein I shall therefore cite the Matter occasioned him falsly to affirm that I Judge the Apostle my words are these The Scripture R. B. quotes is 1 Tim. 1.19 20. which thus sayeth Holding Faith and a good Conscience which some having put away concerning Faith have made Shipwrack of whom is Hymeneus and Alexander whom I have delivered to Satan that they may learn not to Blaspheme Having thus repeated Pauls words I then proceeded in these words What 's this to the Purpose to prove that the Positive Sentence and Decision of the Church in Matters of Conscience may bind Believers 't is so remote from it that it needs no Explanation to shew it so nay I may reasonably query whether this Scripture be to ordinary Capacities plaine to the purpose that Paul himself intends for if we counsult the Light it doth not tell us that a Delivery to Satan may be an Expedient whereby to learn not to Blasphem if by the Word Satan is meant the Devil as is usually understood I now query of R. B. whether the Delivery of a Transgressour to the Devil be according to his Light the way to learn not to Blasphame if not his Reflection on me that I Judge the Apostle is unjust and absurd as his own Letter signifies the Superstructure falls of it self as not touching my Intention nor yet reaching me but onely that Apprehension he supposed to be my meaning and to follow from my words for which end he oftentimes is so wary of as to affirm in his Papers that to his Understanding my words seemed to import and my meaning seems to be so in which things since himself saw and I have manifested his Mistake I am not so great a Lover of Centention as to busy either my self or mind of others with the Men of Straw of his Making but yet he was not so modest nor kind to his Old Friend but that sometimes he does seek to render my words Odious albeit the Mistake be his own by reiterate repetition repeating that of the tolerable Supposition of a Church at every turn above twenty times but also he very obviously wrests my Words and seeks to impose upon me a Disadvantagious Meaning that he may furnish himself on Occasion there-after the more liberally to smite at me as where from the Apostles Words saying And we have Confidence ye will do the things we Command you c. And in another place where he desires those to whom he writes to submit themselves to such as Rule over them did inferr that some did appoint and ordain some things and that there lay an Obligation in point of Duty on others to obey upon which W.R. very unfairly observes It is to be doubted his meaning is others ought to obey whether they see it their Duty yea or nay I leave such Dealing to the Readers Judgment surely it is not answerable to that Candor and Justice that W. R. lays claim to Secondly Because W. R. in these Papers hath taken Occasion to extend himself in long Digressions upon other Matters not treated upon in that Book and takes oft occasion to insinuate his Jealousies of Persons and Things that I meddled not with as where he makes a large Digression which takes up several Pages concerning the Constitution of the Second-Days Meeting at London endeavouring what he can to represent the hurt and abuse of it and where he divers times insinuates that some are usurping or seeking to usurp a Jurisdiction over the Consciences of the Brethren and that some do believe that God hath raised up some outward Person to be amongst the Children of Light at this day as Moses was of old among the
desired me to give him that so raced and interlined Paper but not manifested his intent to Publish the same to whom I Answered I would not unless he would promise me to send it me without the least Alteration or Addition of a Title which he then Solemnly promised but is not yet performed and so the spreading of that Paper or any Paper under the notion of Copy thereof in my Name without my Privity or Assent was very Abusive and I can account it little better than forgery For my Memory is so good as to know that my Hand was never to any Paper whereof this given forth in my Name is Copy And forasmuch as the said Pretended Letter declares nothing of Error contained in my Answer therefore the force of the said Answer is nothing abated thereby And now if that very Paper which is sent abroad under my Name without my Assent were sent by me for the sakes of such who may misconstrue the same I thus Observe 'T is therein thus said I am satisfied that Robert Barclay is not Principled so as I and others have taken his Book to Import And in another place as I and many by some Passages in his Book took him to be The words spoken by Robert Barclay himself unto me before Friends manifested that he is not principled as his Book teacheth and therefore I hope none will abuse my Charity in believing the words of Robert Barclays mouth rather than what his former Writing saith my so doing doth not import that I mistook his Book for I Affirm that his Book is Erronious and shewed him otherwise Principled than the words of his mouth imported Again in the said Paper 't is thus said In Particular he doth declare That his Book teacheth not that the Church of Christ hath Jurisdiction over the Outward Concernes of Friends in case of Difference without assent of the Differing Parties and that it was far from his Intentions As to this I thus say I hope none will read so carlesly as to conclude that because I say He doth Declare c. therefore they will conclude that I do so declare If I should have so said I should have egregiously wronged my Conscience because I knew not where to find such an Explication of his words this Sentence was inserted to tell Friends what he saith and not what I say And so every one hath liberty to search his Book that they may see whether he speaketh Truth or no for I now positively Affirm having since searched his Book again that there is not any one Word or Sentence to be found thorough all his Book that doth in the least measure import that his Book doth so teach as he saith it doth and yet since my departure from London he had the Confidence or rather I may say the Impudence to Affirm that Forty Brethren had given it as their sense that it did so teach whenas it appeared that many of the Meeting who also had put their hands to the account given of the Meeting as aforesaid were not Principled that it ought so to teach as R. B. saith it doth and being for the satisfaction of many desired to shew the Sentence that so imported he refused so to do and doubtless the real Reason of his so doing was guilt upon his Conscience for that he could not tell where to find it I also find in the said Paper that Robert Barclay in one place Affirms to this purpose That there never will nor can be wanting in case of Controversy the Spirit of God to give Judgment thorough some or other in the Church of Christ so long as any assembly can properly or in any tolerable supposition be so termed and that he Declares the Words are sound and so he hath concluded as the said Paper imports That 't is disobedience to God not to submit to the sentence of such Assemblies though the Persons refusing to submit pretend they see it not Here also I cannot but Observe That 't is unreasonable for any to conclude that I Judge the Sentence sound for I testifie 't is Erroneous and never assented or thought it otherwise and that there is no consistency in Truth between that which he declares to be his further meaning thereon and the words in his Book Which cannot but appear by comparing his further meaning in the said Letter and his Book together The said Paper doth further manifest that Robert Barclay thus in his Book asserted viz. That the Antient Apostolick Order of the Church of Christ is re-stablisht on its Right Basis and Foundation and that his meaning therein was not onely with respect to all the Outward Orders and Forms of Discipline in Government amongst the People called Quakers but with Respect to the Power of God which is the Great Order of the Gospel and that though Robert Barclay hath given these Explications of his meaning yet the very Explications as he saith are to be Found in his Book Let the Judicious Reader Consider whether this can any way credit Robert Barclay or the Second Dayes Meeting that approved his Book as evidence that it cannot I say that all the Outward Orders and Forms of Discipline in Government amongst the People called Quakers do not appear to be the Antient Apostolick Order of the Church of Christ and that I have sufficiently evidenced in my Answer and if so how can his Meaning be according to truth Secondly 'T is true that the Power of God is the great Order of the Gospel and is of ability to Establish us but we not of ability to Establish it and therefore whatever Robert Barclay may say 't is not rational to conclude that according to his Meaning when he writ that Sentence it had Relation to any thing but Outward Orders and Forms of Discipline in Government and as to his saying that the very Explications are to be found in his Book I Affirm on a further Diligent Search that there is no such Explications to be found therein and I hope those who have a concern on their Spirit for Truth will do me so much Right as to Examine his Book since the Case by the spreading of the said Paper under my Name is brought to a narrow issue for now 't is easily to be manifested whether herein I have wronged Robert Barclay or whether Robert Barclay is not wrong and the Second Dayes Meeting too whil'st they Justify and own his Book In the said Paper 't is thus further said viz. This further lies upon me to signify unto you on behalf of Robert Barclay I am satisfied that he is not Principled as I and many by some passages in his Book took him to be and since it is so that many have taken an offence against him for that cause and as may be doubted even so far as to reject his Testimony and Service for the Truth it lies upon me as my Duty even for his and the Truths Sake to warn all that they take heed not
gave that Judgment had not then perused it And as to their saying 'T was to the great Derogation of the Christian Authority of the said Meeting meaning the Second Daies Meeting I have this to say That I never understood that Friends owned any Authority in any of our Meetings as a Christian Authority but the Power of God which is Invisible and cannot be diminished and therefore I may well query whether 't is not Great Weakness in any to conclude that I am capable to do any Action which can either lessen diminish or take from that Authority and I hope none of the said Subscribers are so remote from Truth and a good Understanding as to conclude that the Second Dayes Meeting hath any Authority given them by Man but if any should be so Weak I must tell such that as I never gave it any so am wholly uncapable by writing to lessen it if they have any And whereas 't is said that the Objections of the said William Rogers lay not so much against the Matter and Substance of the said Robert Barcly's Book as against the way of Expressing some Passages therein This I say is untrue my Objections were against the very Matter and Substance of some things contained in his Book On the whole matter I have this to say I could not obtain a Meeting of Friends to be chosen by Robert Barclay and my self though the Person immediately concerned which agrees not with the Examples of the Scriptures of Truth Read Acts 15.1 2. And that the aforesaid Eminent Preacher as the Mouth of others under the Notion of the Church Obstructed and though in the Meeting held Friends Deportment was grave orderly and inoffensive as to me ward whilst the debate on my Objections held yet I am greatly satisfied that by the Publication of the said two Papers every Impartial Reader that will be at the paines seriously to weigh the said Papers this Answer and Robert Barcaly's Book and Postscript may easily discern the Errour of Robert Barclay and Charles Marshal with the Thirty Six subscribers but those who will have an Eye to Papers and Bookes for the Writers Sakes more then for the matters Contained therein may in time come to have their Understanding so Vailed as to be brought to worship Images and to esteem * See George Fox his Book of Womens Meeetings wherein he queries and was not Micah's Mother a virtuous Woman Read Judges 17th and then a few Lines of these and such like Women were recorded for their Wisdom and their Virtue Michah's Mother a vertuous Women in Israel though she caused a Molten Image and a Graven Image to be made and put in the House of her Son Judges 17. If any should be offended at these Lines let such Exhort Charles Marshall and the other Thirty Six Subscribers concerned to make better Use for time to come of so much Condescention as appeared in me for the sake of Robert Barclay whom I once accounted my Brother when I perceived from the Words of Robert Barclay's Mouth that he appeared a better Principled Man than his Lines imported William Rogers The FOURTH PART OF THE Christian-Quaker Distinguished from the Apostate Innovator WHEREIN A RELATION is given of several Proceedings since George Fox's Wife caused a Paper dated the 21 th of the 11 th M on 1672. to be Read against Iohn Story in a Quarterly-Meeting in Westmoreland Therein signifying that he judged the Power of God as it broke forth in Hymns or Spiritual Songs And is chiefly to discover That George For hath Erroneously concerned himself in the Divisions amongst the People called Quakers Which therefore may serve for A WARNING TO THE Children of Light that their Dependency may not be on G. F. a mis-led fallible Man nor yet on any Mortal Man Men or Name whatsoever save the Name of JESUS who is given of the Father to be Salvation unto the Ends of the Earth By William Rogers Hosea 9.7 The Dayes of Visitation are come the Dayes of Recompence are come Israel shall know it the Prophet is a Fool the Spiritual Man is Mad for the Abundance of thine Iniquity and great Hatred Printed in the YEAR 1680. The FOURTH PART OF THE Christian-Quaker Distinguished from the Apostate and Innovator c. THis small Treatise is chiefly designed to be Communicated unto those who profess the Appearance of Christ Jesus the Son of the Eternal God by his Light in the Consciences of the Sons and Daughters of Men to be a sufficient Guide unto the Father of Life The Faith of such is That those who receive this Appearance or Gift of God so as to Live and Walk according to the Divine Motions and Dictates thereof shall come to know the Salvation of God through Christ Jesus their Law-giver Lord and Saviour 'T is publickly known that this Principle of Truth hath been held forth and owned by those who in Derision have been called QUAKERS of whom it may be now said to the great Grief and Exercise of the Spirit of the Faithful Followers of Christ amongst them That though the Principle in which such of them who have received from God a Divine and Spiritual Knowledge have believed is Unchangeable yet the Enemy hath so prevailed as that the Seeds of Dissention and Discord sown amongst them have taken so deep Root as that their Publick Meetings for Worship in several Parts of this Nation have become the Stages of Contention to the Dishonour of God his Truth and People And in divers Parts of this Nation 't is reputed that George Fox is at least one of the Chief Abettors of one Party and Iohn Story of another But how far that Report may with respect to G. F. have Credit with others besides my self I shall leave to the Sense and Savour of the understanding impartial Reader when he hath throughly perused this Treatise And though from their Names mentioned in the Title-Page some may be in Expectation that the Difference between the People called QUAKERS with respect to the present Seperation in some Parts of this Nation may be Treated on at large yet that 's not my present Design or Purpose Though I must confess that Matter is at large Collected and impartially Stated and lies ready by me for the Press and in Probability may come forth or at least a Part thereof more than what is in this Fourth Part contained in its proper Time and Season unless the Lord shall be pleased to change the Hearts of the Persecuting Opposers of John Wilkinson and John Story and other Servants of the Lord unto whom the Truth is as dear as ever and that the Door may be opened again in our Publick Assemblies for Worship of God whereby those who have the Word of the Lord to Publish in the Demonstration of his Power and Spirit may not be so frequently obstructed by the airy imaginary and empty Discourses of such as have pretended to have the Word of the Lord to declare when
been suckt in by many and then 't is easie to be favour'd that if the Publishers thereof do but once put the Bare-Skin on any Friends Back though never so much of the Lamb's Nature and Spirit there will not be wanting those Sorts of Beasts with whom 't is supposed Paul fought at Ephesus who undoubtedly were Unreasonable Men to bait that Person on whom to speak comparatively the Bear-Skin is put This Discourse may occasion this further Inquiry By what Mark may we best be Informed to discover those Ministring Persons in your Publick Meetings who are of Party with G. F. as thou takest it and that are the Encouragers of such Doctrine and Exhortation as before-mentioned to exclude the Reason the Wisdom and the Jealousie and to have an Eye to the Brethren c By which word Brethren I know is meant one Party of those called Ministring Friends This I query of thee the rather because thou accountest it a Good Rule to Judge of the Tree by thy own Taste and Savour of the Fruit. To this I Answer What Garb they may appear in I know not But the Garb they have appeared in and the Fruits they have brought forth I well know by the Hearing of my Ear which are these They have been much Exercised in crying out against Dark Spirits Leavened Spirits Troublers of Israel thereby intending such as have and yet do approve themselves Faithful Friends gain-saying the Testimony of such as have declared the Word of God in our Publick Meetings in the Demonstration of the Power and Spirit though they have not been capable to detect the Publisher with any Evil Consersation or Unsoundness of Doctrine and oft-times spend their Breath at an eager Rate a long time together when some part at least of what they bring forth being but duly weighed is a meer Scandal to Religion the Principle and Practice of our Antient Friends in the Beginning Not having a Word in many such tedious Discourses I him at to inform the Congregation of the Principles of Truth which the People called Quakers have profest nor yet to direct the Hearers in the Way that leads unto Life Everlasting Obj. This may some say is treating of Things in a general Way without particular Matter to evidence this general Reflection Answ I confess 't is so and that it ought not to be Evidence against any one not named neither is it my Design that it should But rather that I may thereby become a Remembrancer to those who may read the same that they may consider whether it hath not been so though at such times they may have been so much swallowed up with Affection to an imaginary airy Declaration sounded forth with the Outward Appearance of great Zeal as that they have taken that to be pure Good Bread which in Reality is nothing but Empty Husks And if any shall think my general Reflection wholly groundless let such give the Notice thereof and I doubt not but I shall be capable to bring many sufficient Witnesses to the Truth hereof For at the Moment I now write I am well satisfied there are Hundreds will testify the same who have been Ear-Witnesses as well as my self However I must also testify That there are others amongst the People called Quakers and that I hope by far the greater Part that cannot be affected with such kind of Doctrine and Exhortation as to Exclude the Reason the VVisdom and the Jealousie and whether they see or see not to have their Eyes unto others so as to follow them And these are not willing to concern themselves either the one way or the other in relation to the Differences further than from certain Evidence of Matter of Fact And these not receiving sufficient Satisfaction that John VVilkinson and John Story were such as represented have been as I am fully perswaded termed such as had let in Jealousies the Reason and the VVisdom and on that foot termed Dark Spirits by the Publishers or Approvers of this Doctrine Have an Eye to the Brethren and if you do not see your selves you must follow us that do see A notable Expedient whereby the Leader and those who may be Led may like Blind-Men fall into the Ditch together and instead of following the Bright Beams of the Sun may be found Followers only of the dark Body of the Moon To be short When I consider whence they came and how Great G. F. is Esteem'd with such as Publish such kind of Doctrines and Exhortations as before is Cited I am well satisfied in my Conscience that there are many at this Day that have no better Measure to discover whether one professing the Truth be Right and in the Light and Power of God but by understanding how they stand affected to G. F. and his Outward Prescriptions as if all the Labours Tryals Sufferings and Travels of Friends were to center in the Exaltation of G. F. The certain Sense whereof hath encreas'd the Concern of my Conscience to give forth this Treatise Entituled The Fourth Part of the Christian-Quaker to which also is added The Fifth Part of the Christian-Quaker both which are a proper Looking-Glass for those who desire to behold G. F. in his proper Image But to return Robert Barrow and Three more all Informers against John Wilkinson and John Story writ to some Friends of Bristol on the Occasion of their Dislike of some Proceedings in the North and acquaint them That by the Authority of God's Power they have an Understanding given them of God to Act and Determine in Affairs appertaining to the Gospel and its Order And forasmuch as this hath been signifyed unto G. F. by my self and others in a Letter directed unto him and others Dated the 22 th Day of the 2 d. Month 1679. and that he hath not yet manifested any Dislike thereof though something to that Purpose was desired 't is cause of Jealousie that their Pretended Power was but under him if not from him and the rather also because they are great Espousers of his Cause and that 't is evident from what is already written that G. E. is one of those Vs already mentioned by John Blaikling At length some Friends of London and Bristol agree that Six Friends go into the North to endeavour an Accommodation of the Differences and thereupon a Meeting was had at Drawch in Sedberch-Parish in York-shire which continued Four Dayes to Audite the Differences but had no Power given by the Parties differing to Judge For some disaffected towrads John Wilkinson John Story would not permit that the afore said Nine Judges so termed should he Excluded as Parties and to the Meeting broke up not agreeing too give any Judgment in the Case However some took upon them to give forth a Narrative so called but was rather a Judgment with a large Preamble of Matters not acted at Drawel which disagreeing with the Relation I gave of Transactions in that Meeting being One of the Six chosen to go down
Wilkinson and John Story and your Company to call in all your Papers which ye have given forth in your Separation which tend to nothing but disquieting Friends Minds and bring them into Strife Jangling and vain Disputing and corrupt their Minds and draw them from better Things and from the Lord and his Peaceable Truth And you may see if you will not shut your Eyes what your Spirit begetteth into viz. Strife and what Spirit is it that hath led and guided you So if you do not give over your Work and Separation the Lord God will blast your Spirit and Work and you will become hardned and as bad as the old Opposers James Naylor and his Company and John Perrot and Pennyman and Cobet and Muggleton Mark your End for the Seed of Life Reigns and will grind to Powder its Opposers This 23 d. of 8 th M on 76. George Fox To the afore-said Letter John Wilkinson returned this ensuing Answer George Fox I Received thy Lines in which thou say'st This is the Word of the Lord to you John Wilkinson and John Story and your Company to call in all your Papers which you have given forth in your Separation c. I judge thou meanest not that that is a Separation that all Friends meet not Outwardly together Truly George we might have expected thou would have told us in Love what the Separation thou speakest of consisted in whether we are separated from the Light within the Doctrine of Truth or have builded again that which we have once destroyed or what we have left undone that God's Truth in our Hearts requires of us and what Papers we have given forth against the Light Within When the Word through thee concerning this Matter enters our Hearts and gives Light to us that the Light of Truth manifests us guilty of a Separation from God's Truth and Giving out Papers against it we shall readily confess it and Repent But till we know it the Word of the Lord that is as a Hammer and thy Prophesies be to them who are in the Separation and in Strife causing Divisions viz. with Articles of Accusations disquieting Friends Minds with a New Form and Way of Proceeding carryed on with a Profession of Church-Authority and great Help which indeed was seldom wanted in a Separation from Truth when the Apostacy entred And truly there is great Cause of Iealousie what will be the End of these Things Thou shouldst have told us what new Things we have brought in as bad as the old Opposers James Naylor and his Company and John Perrot and Pennyman c. before thou hadst told us The Lord God would blast your Spirit and Work And if James Naylor's Opposition consisted in Not Reproving his Company when they bowed to him and cryed Hosanna let it be a Warning to thee and Reprove thy Company when they give thee the Titles and Honour due to the Highest lest they that love Preheminence and Rule out-live thy Time and render thy Weakness to others as thou hast done his when thou art Dead and in thy Grave turned to Dust Therefore be Humble as a Member of the Heavenly Body under Christ the Head who Ruleth in his Church and People whose Right it is And remember the word to Moses with the time and place of his Death who sanctified not God in the sight of Israel his people Oh! well may Friends be called Apostates in their Day and be Curst of Men when they are Dead whose Condemnations are left on Record by others to Posterity in the Churches Books seeing James Naylor by thee is called an Old Opposer who confest his Weakness Repented and Dyed in Truth and Peace with God But George we might have been perswaded that thy Counsel and Advice thou gavest to the Churches in writing is greatly abused and we cannot Judge how thou couldst intend Force or such a way of proceeding with Friends about them That which I see at present tending to Vnity is for thee to Manifest what thou intendedst by them if thou intendest no force with them which thou couldst not do in Truth for that would let thee see Divisions would be the effect of them then manifest the Abuse they have done to thee and thy Counsel to Friends by their proceedings about them that we may know that thou art the same in Principle in Doctrine and Practice as in the beginning when thy Testimony was recommended to the Witness of God in all Consciences that thou mayst clear thy self that thou approvest of no Force about Religion but the Force and Effect of the Word delivered that the encrease may be of God and we all unto whom Gods Love hath been large may have Vnity in Truth as in the Beginning The 9th Mth. 76. From thy Friend John Wilkinson Unto this Letter George Fox gives this ensuing Answer John Wilkinson I Received thy Letter as I judge Subscribed J. W. wherein thou wouldst seem to shuffle off that which I writ to Thee and John Story and the rest as the Word of the Lord to you and that I should have told you Wherein you were Separated and what Papers you have given forth contrary to the Light and Truth c. Your Paper of your Eighty Subscribers is not from the Light of Christ nor as it was in the Beginning which you sent up and down and if it was not to beget into Strife Why did you send it to Carlisle and up and down to other Places and another Paper lately that you have sent besides all your other Papers And as for my Papers or Writings that I have been moved of the Lord to give forth I know no Friends that do abuse them if thou knowest any thou shouldst have mentioned them And if thow wer 't not Blind who art gone from the Light of Christ and the Spirit by which thou wast first Convinced thou wouldst see that I am the same as I was in the Beginning And as for thy Fear of making Force in Religion there is nothing but what is Pure can come into it But look into your own Paper wherein you say None of your own County nor other Counties must sit amongst your Chosen Men but whom you have given Power unto c. But I say as Christ said unto you He that Believes is Saved and he that Believes not is Condemned already And thy Neighbours and all that have been concerned with you do know what you are Separated from And I say also You are Separated from that Power and Spirit which did first Convince you for if not you would have been in Unity with me as at the first And thou hadst better have taken the Word of the Lord patiently and not resisted it But it seems it has been as a Fire unto Thee and You. For it was sent in Tenderness and Care unto you and for your Good though thou wouldst make thy self ignorant of what Separation you were gone into For you are separated from the Inward Light and Spirit that
of the Heavenly Body leadeth into but about Prescriptions from thee through the Blind Zeal of the Weak to promote thy Orders It may be feared many do eye more the Orders from thee than they eye the Lord in them Accusing and Iudging all out of Truth that practise not with all freed from them using all Force they can devise according to the Power they have to compel all unto them Censuring all Friends out of Unity that come not to Practise with them which is the greatest Penalty and Persecution they can inflict for want of Ourward Power And many Friends think it Godliness to Accuse and Condemn their Brethren about Outward Things before the Accused with Truth be led into them George for the Love of God and for his Peoples sake open thy Mind plainly what thou intended by them and make it known unto Friends if thou intended Counsel unto the Church only and no Compelling into the particular Things to Practise but commending to God 's Witness in all Consciences to be led into the Exercise and Practice thereof as every one is inwardly perswaded of God in each particular and not before If thou so do it would much clear Thee and thy Orders from being the Cause of Division for Iniquity worketh in a Mystery in many that think it Godliness to Accuse and Condemn their Brethren about Outward Things as I said before which was the Cause of great Strife in former Ages But if thou open not thy Mind to Friends and deal plainly and testify Thou never intended that any who is Faithful inwardly to God should either be Accused or Condemned about thy Orders and so let thy prudent Care appear about these Things the Breach amongst Friends and Brethren is in great Danger to grow wider and then I fear the Cause of Divisions will lye at thy Door which God Almighty in his Mercy prevent and raise Thee up to put a Stop unto for the Enemy of Truth hath taken occasion from thy Orders to work and beget a False Birth in many even Night-Visions and False Prophesies as the Number of Accusations and angry Proceedings about them of late declare which was not before in our Age Neither did Heads nor Horus of the Dragon appear to cast down the Holy People by lying against them saying That they oppose the Holy Orders And by approving of such Proceedings is Satan let lose in our Time to deceive and all that see his Transformings he casts Flouds out of his Mouth against them to carry them away and casts such to the Earth wanting nothing to effect his Designe but the Outward Power to carry them on to Kill For his Wrath is against them that keep the Testimony of Jesus Christ and such he accuseth of Fleshly Liberty and Loose Walking and of being Separatists and Hereticks George I desire thee once again to warn all Friends that they neither Accuse nor Condemn one another any more about the afore-said Things for if that do continue amongst Friends it will cause a great Falling away and God will visit with great Iudgments that the Profession of Great Power and Church-Authority will not save from while the Accuser of the Brethren in such that is deeply in it is not cast down It is not the Transforming of Satan into a Shape of Austerity and forming Power to fright the Simple into this or that Outward Observation we have waited for nor laboured after nor a Feigned Profession of overcoming Love in words that can deceive us Blessed be God for his Gifts of Light for ever more when such are bitterly smiting their Fellow-Servants and filling Mens Minds with False Accusations that even our Holy Profession is defiled What I desire of thee is not for fear of more Acousations nor False Prophecies they do not move me from the Hope of the Gospel But I desire it for Thy Good and the Churches Prosperity and Peace For an Image of the Government of Christ consisting in Outward Prescriptions attended with Force over the Inward Man we never expected in this Gospel-Day to bite and devour one another about but the Inward and Peaceable Government of Christ to govern the Members of his own Body the true Church into all Practices according to Godliness And we are bound to follow him our Redeemer who knits together in the Autient Unity and breaks not the Holy Fellowship amongst Brethren I have cleared my Conscience which was concerned in the Remembrance of thee desiring thou mayst quit thy self with Truth in all Things in thy latter Dayes that thy End may be Crowned with True Honour Thy Friend in Truth John Wilkinson POST-SCRIPT WHat Spirit or Motion thy Prescriptions were from is not my Concern but I need not ask Whether the Holy-Ghost or the Spirit of Guile Force and Compelling have attended them if Trees in our Age may be truly known by their Fruits The 9th Month 76. To this Letter John Wilkinson saith he never received Answer which considering the Contents thereof and comparing it with what G. F. hath writ in Answer to his former Letter is just occasion of Jealousie that G. F. intended Compulsion so far as he was capable as well as Counsel and that the Weight and Burthen of all the Ill Consequences attending the late Divisions amongst Friends will lye at G. F's Door since he hath been so carnestly prest to give his Sense touching these things which have occasioned the Division and yet hath either Impertinently done it as his Answer to John Wilkinson's first Letter before-mentioned doth manifest or else hath not given Answer to the Parties concerned Which is evident not only from his not causing an Answer to be delivered unto John Wilkinson's last recited Letter but also from the like Neglect unto William Rogers who writ him Two large Letters for the Clearing of his Conscience c. The Two Letters written by me unto G. F. do now follow Bristol the 27th of the 1st Month 1677. George Fox IN a bowed down Spirit to God that my Pen may not commit a Tittle of Error to this Paper either by Want of Plainness on the one Hand or Taking too much upon me on the other do I now write unto thee in expectation that thou wilt have a right Savour of my Integrity to the Truth and so much Charity if thou apprehend I herein Err as to inform me wherein For my Hope is that I shall for ever have a ready Ear to hear and a ready Mind to weigh any Instruction though but from the Meanest of the Flock much more from an Elder Brother Thine of the 14 th of the 11 th Month I received but have nothing upon me to write as Answer thereto not being willing to strive Yet through a Sense of the present and increasing Distractions amongst Friends I have somewhat on my Spirit to clear my Conscience as in the Sight of God having a certain Sight Sense and Knowledge that many honest-hearted Friends as well as my self remain for the Truths
sake Unchangeable in their Affections to the Two persecuted Brethren John Wilkinson and John Story And many are more and more confirmed through a Certain Knowledge which is a better ground than Report that Persons professing Truth and such as are supposed to be had in great Estimation by those who appear against John Wilkinson and John Story do foment Lies and Slanders to the Dishonour of God Increase of Division and Hurt of the Souls of the Simple where the Lies and False Reports of Slanderous Tongues have place This may be termed Matter of great Reflection but in as much as 't is really True 't is proper enough to be spoken to thee because I firmly believe that thou art in a Capacity to be a Stop to such things as these by thy publick Exhortation to all such as are concerned in this Matter I remember thy Publick Exhortation hath been in a Paper read amongst Friends and not long since To cease Striving or to that Effect My Soul would rejoyce to hear more Papers of that Tenour read amongst Friends and not only so but also that such Publick Persons as seem in a more peculiar Manner to esteem of thee than some others may would shew themselves true Friends to the Truth by following that Counsel Such as are fit to be Exhorted learn more by Example than Precept or Exhortation And if any exhort to Cease Striving and should yet be found Movers of Strife or Encouragers of those that are such therein reach not to the Better Part neither answer God's Witness in the Conscience though it proceeds from an Elder Brother Dear George for so I call thee not in Flattery my Soul abominates that Spirit but because thou wast once so to me and that through a Sense of that Immortal Life which appeared in theee and as yet I dare not from Reports of any positively judge of thee otherwise but yet cannot but tell thee If I should appear so Uncharitable as to make Reports which come with the Face of no less if not much more Credit against thee than Reports against John Wilkinson and John Story do the Measure of my Faith concerning thee I must conclude That thou also art guilty of Accusing wrongfully And I know 't is much doubted that thy Example of Giving heed to Reports hath encouraged others to do the like and for want of discerning what is True and what is False do sometimes run into such Actions and Proceedings as are grand Marks of an Apostatized Spirit Neither dare I positively Judge of thee from Jealousies that have entred which I confess abundantly have ††Note The Reader may here take notice that G. F. in his afore-cited Letter of the 14th of the 11th Month 1676. being an Answer to one sent unto him by me hints at something Written by me to him and so seems to make Answer which as laid down in G. F.'s Letter runs thus And thou meaning my self sayest That there is a Spirit risen at this day that gives many occasion to be Jealous that thou meaning G. F. art lookt upon by some as that Prophet which Moses Testified of that God would raise up c. but who those are thou hast not mentioned and thou saiest Christ is that Prophet we know that is to be heard c. and he is the only Law-giver and no Outward Man c. To this G. F. thus Answers Then is not this Prophet to be in Man to give forth his Law which comes after Moses but I cannot deny that Prophet which Moses spoke of to be raised up for I know that it is he that is Opposed and his Law too by many talkers of him and the Light of his Glorious Gospel and the Order of it c. And what I am I am by the Grace and Love of God and will not deny the Prophet which came after Moses nor the Election before the World began though all turn into the Jealousies in which they were before they were convinced for I believe few of them that does oppose knows this Prophet that comes after Moses though they may speak of him in words of which Prophet I am not ashamed of Thus far G. F. in the said cited Letter which being compared with what he said in the Great Meeting-house in Bristol before several Hundreds in the 12th Month 1677. viz. I AM ELECT BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN I take to be sufficient ground for such a Jealousy mentioned in this Letter from thine aforesaid written unto me more than all that ever I heard I ever was of this mind To give little credit to Reports that tended to the Scandal of a Brother amongst other things this Jealousy enters me viz. That thou looks upon thy self that Man at least in whom the Son of God hath appeared to give forth his Law and to be Recorded as his Law under the dispensation of the Gospel even as Moses was the giverforth of the Law in that day If this be so and plainly manifested and confest to by thee and espoused by other Friends a separation will then plainly and above Board appear and many though not concerned in the late Differences yet being Men of unchangeable Spirits and so cannot in that respect esteem of thee otherwise than in the beginning will be concerned in this But if this be not so and be but so declared by thee the sense of many Friends is that then the many Differences lately arisen and somented amongst Friends may quickly cease and the primitive Love be restored wherein we thought our selves as far as ever I could perceive all Servants one to another and to the Truth but not Masters but until one of these do appear in plainness no doubt but Jealousies and Differences will more and more appear and increase especially if the Weakness of any though ever so few be such as to give occasions of Jealousy to others that their Faith stands in thee when our Faith ought to stand in none but the Power of God Thy Counsel hath often been to this purpose Follow an Evil Report till the original Reporter be found in order to the clearing of Truth that so the Guilty Person whether Reporter or he on whom the Report is might Condemn the same Now whosoever hath been the Reporter of a wrong thing against his Brother or Sister or hath refused to bring forth the Author of a Report that is reprovable is according to thy own Counsel Condemnable and as it was said by Nathan in another case to David who to Nathan confest he had Sinned Thou art the Man so if report as credible as any that ever I knew be true may it be said of thee Thou art the Man Thomas Lower hath lately shown me a Certificate as Evidence that John Story upon the coming of Persecutors to disturb a Meeting departed out of it and I perceive this is intended to render him a wrong Man whereupon Iacquainted Thomas Lower to this effect That if Report of thee
though the Apostle thus exhorted Little Children keep your selves from Idols yet thy Book touching Womens-Meetings c. very Scandalous to the Truth and worthy in several Particulars to be Judged and Condemned informs us as if Micah's Mother spoken of Judges 17. when she gave Money to make a Graven Image to be Worshipped was a Virtuous Woman for touching her thou hast thus written And Was not Micah's Mother a Virtuous Woman Read Judges 17. and see what she said to her Son And in a few Lines after thou thus testifyes These and such like Women are Recorded to Posterity for their Wisdom and Virtue See thy Book Pag. 43 44. Thirdly Though there are Endeavours to send Papers to and fro to bespatter John Story for going out of a Meeting when the Persecutors came yet I know that thou thy self hast been found in the like Action and if Reports be true the frequentest of any Man that ever I heard called by the Name of a Quaker And 't is to me a broad Signe that this would not have been omitted as a grand Article against him amongst others at Drawel hadst not thou been Guilty in the like Case Fourthly That though John Wilkinson and John Story are persecuted by such unto whom thy Papers seem a Strength because they will not Condemn themselves Yet I never heard that thou as yet hast ever given forth any Paper of Condemnation for the Errors thou hast Committed in writing the Book about Womens Meeeting c. or any thing else Though I cannot believe but that thou art Conscious to thy self that Truth is scandalized thereby unless so great Imagination hath entred thee as to conclude That all thy Words Writings and Actions are Right because they are brought forth through thy Earthly Vessel And to speak plain I must tell thee Thou art not free from giving Occasion to be Jealous that thou dost so conclude Else when I treated thee about the Business of Micha's Mother Why didst thou tell me as thou then didst viz. That thou knewest what thou didst and that Thou sawest 't would be a Stumbling-Block But rather on the Sight of thy Mistake have ingeniously confest the same for 't is an Abominable thing in thee or any Man knowingly to put Stumbling-Blocks in the Way of God's People And know this from me thou wilt never be able to wipe away the Reproach that lyes upon thee for writing that Book until thou Condemn and Judge thy self for many things therein contained And to be yet more plain When I do consider that the Reputation and Respect that hath been given unto thee by many if not most of those who in the Parts here-a-way were first convinced of Truth did first spring from the Testimony we had concerning thee from the Mouths of those whom we believed the Lord and not Thou sent forth to gather us it seems a very strange Thing and the Badge of a grand Apostacy That any of the surviving Remnant of those Antient Labourers being as sound in Doctrine and Principle and as blameless in their outward Lives and Conversation as in the Beginning and thereby manifesting themselves Stayed in the Unchangeable Truth should be Persecuted and rendred Offenders for that which Truth declares to be no Offence and yet thou so far from being a Reproof thereto that 't is evident to me from my Discourse had with thee at Swarthmore and other things that thou art become a Strength to them Hast thou forgotten that Truth was Preach't in the Beginning under the Name of the Vnchangeable Truth And Is the Day now come that a Remnant of the Antient Stock who bore the Brunt and Heat of the Day must now be Persecuted whenas I am satisfyed if they could but now run with others to Change their Way they might yet be esteemed Good Friends Hast thou forgotten how often the Testimony of the Ancient Brethren were on this wise We Preach not our selves look not unto us but unto the Appearance of Christ in your selves And yet one Cause Assigned by thee that John VVilkinson and John Story are wrong is their not Coming to thee and by the sixty six Subscribers at Ellis Hook's Chamber in London their not Coming to Them Truly those who have received their Ministry from God are not to run hither and thither at thy Call or any man's Call whatsoever though I do know thou hast in a Letter written to me Assigned their not coming to Thee when thou send'st for them to be as a Proof that they were not Right nor in the Light and Power of God But by what Authority or according to what Principle of Truth Men called of God into the Work of the Ministry must be declared to be not right nor in the Light and Power of God because they come not to Thee when thou sendest for them I understand not for thou in thy best Estate wast but a Member of the Christ of God unto whom we are all to come when he calls And if any shall Affirm that thou hast and dost retain thy place yet in that Case Thou canst be but a fellow-servant accountable unto the Christ of God as every Member of the Body whereof Christ is Head is Hast thou forgotten how Thou hast Testified against James Naylor's Spirit whose great fall was his owning or at least not Reproving the Women when they Cryed with a Carnal Tongue Hosanna to him And hast Thou no Sense that its gross Ignorance and thick Darkness for any to look upon Thee as that Prophet whom the Lord by his Servant Moses Prophesied he would raise up like unto him whom the People are to hear in all things I cannot believe thou art Ignorant that such there are who so Look on thee and I never understood thou becamest a Reproof to this Spirit Hast thou no Sense that the same Spirit of Ignorance hath and can look upon that abominable Quotation touching Micahs Mother as well enough which where-ever it is doth undoubtedly Spring from this that 't is George's giving forth and so there must be something in it And hast Thou not been desired to Clear things of this Nature and to be a Reproof to such Ignorance and Darkness which tends to lead us into Egypt again I am the man who have Cause to be Jealous that there are some who look upon others either Apostatizing from the Truth or standing in slippery Places when they find not a more than ordinary Respect for thee I will not say an Hosanna in their Breasts as the Women had in their Mouths for James Naylor and therefore I cannot but say it might well become thee by a plain Testimony to Clear things of this Nature Many for Truth 's sake and out of an indeared Respect for thee in particular and a Hope that these little Differences amongst Friends might pass over and that thou wouldest use the Interest thou hast in the Hearts of the Professors of Truth to quell those many little Commotions which seemed some
is now so opened as to see that if thou own them thou wilt bring thy self under the Just Censure of Truth for endeavouring to make any Brother an Offender for that which is no Offence And if thou own them not then thou wilt shew thy self out of Unity with the great Opposers of John Wilkinson and John Story However if thou refusest to Answer 't will be Evidence enough that thou walkest not by that Golden Rule To do as thou wouldst be done by More-over Since thy Papers give Testimony against a Spirit Why dost thou not tell us in plain Words who they are in whom according to thy Sense it works For I much doubt that if thou art not the Secret Mover to all this Strife yet the want of the Right Application of some Expressions in thy Papers testifying against Bad Spirits c. is one great Cause of the Increase of Bad Spirits and of their Scribling And therefore be Plain-hearted For I do know that a dark imaginary Spirit is entred and under the Outward Profession of Truth and that also such a Spirit appears amongst those who espouse the Cause against John Wilkinson and John Story and the Fruits that are brought forth by them which evidence that they are of such a Spirit are as followeth viz. Judging the Lord's Servants out of the Truth for particular Matters laid to their Charge without hearing them speak for themselves or first sending their Judgment or Condemnation to them before the spreading thereof contrary to the known Practice of Friends in Truth gathering Friends together on purpose to entertain their Ears with Reports against John Wilkinson and John Story and refuse to bring forth the same to John Story 's Face before Friends equally to be Chosen though desired so to do both by John Story and others Magnifying Unity amongst Brethren and yet appear those who break the Unity reproving the Spirit of Strife and yet not only the Movers but Carryers on of Strife both by Word and Writing or to speak in thy Language Stribling to the Dishonour of God and the Cause of Truth And though such who espouse the Cause against John VVilkinson and John Story may suppose themselves capable to quote Thee for an Example or at least as an Approver of such Actions for none of them as I know of do so much as suppose that thy Words or Scribling tends to reprove them yet know this from me That there are many of God's Antient Flock who retain their First Love for Truth and every Honourable Labourer in the Vineyard dare not approve of this Late and New-found Doctrine publish't against All Reasoning and All VVisdom nor yet can suffer their Faith to stand in Thee or any Man And therefore if Thou or any Man bring forth a Dream or pretend a Night-Vision to run against Faithful Friends and on that foot Scrible against them under the Notion of Bad Spirits it hath no place with them because the Day hath discovered such Folly to Men of Conscience and indued with the Wisdom that 's from Above But yet I cannot say but that as it hath it may have place with some who are of this Number and Sort viz. Such whose Ignorance is so Great as to conclude it the Fruit of Vertue to avoyd All Reasoning and All VVisdom or whose Understandings are so vailed as to have an Eye to the Night-Visions or Dreams of Men more than to the Truth in themselves and on that foot eyeing the Scriblers of Papers more than the Matters therein contained as being convinced that they ought to shut out All VVisdom and All Reasoning a most dextrous Expedient where it takes place for Anti-christ so to exalt his Kingdom as that all manner of Iniquity and Deceit may quickly enter the Flock if once the Leader or Leaders of the People bring forth their own Imaginations under the Notion of Night-Visions and publish them for the VVord of the Lord and then no marvail if such conclude That every Friend is justly Condemned if they are not at Unity with the Paper given forth by the Sixty-Six Subscribers at Ellis Hooks's Chamber as if now 't were Good Doctrine or Exhortation to direct to the Spirit and Power that appeared in the Sixty-Six Subscribers when they brought forth their Unchristian like Papen instead of directing to the Measure of Grace in themselves One thing more lyes upon me to say unto thee That though amongst the Princes of the World there are such Politick Contrivances to carry on their Designs as to ingage such others therein who for Self-Advancement become of a Temporizing Spirit or for want of the Things of this World are ready to follow for the Loaves for being of a Mean Spirit are Hurried or Over-awed with Fear And so if their Designes succeed ill then 't is the Fruit either of Evil Counsel or ill Management but if well then they carry away the Glory thereof Yet it becomes not any one or many professing themselves Members of Christ's Body thus to do And now to Conclude I have this further to Query VVhether thou Conclude thy self no way obliged to bring thy VVritings to the Second Dayes Meeting in London to be approved of there before they be Printed If thou dost not Thou hast been wrong Represented if thou dost and yet think'st all other Friends are as 't is to be doubted thou dost for I have never heard that thy Book about VVomens Meeting was there approved or that all the Things therein contained will be stood by or owned by any one Friend in Truth then 't is an evident Token Thou wouldst Exalt thy self For What is that less than to conclude That the Infallible Spirit is limited to appear through thy Earthen Vessel only For if according to the Principle of Truth the Spirit is the Judge and that its pouring forth in our Day is upon many Sons and many Daughters Why then should not the Appearance of the Spirit through any Vessel have its free Passage as well as through Thine Or Why must Some VVritings given forth by the Spirit be brought to the Second Dayes Meeting to be approved and Others not But to return I have this further to say That if Thou or any are so imaginary as to conclude That all thy Writings and Books are given forth by the Infallible Spirit and that as such they ought to be made use of a part of which I am satisfyed have so been thereby to obtain Proselytes against John Story and John VVilkinson it appears to me as if thy Notorious Erring from the Infallible Spirit in writing some things contained in thy Book of VVomens-Meetings hath been permitted to be as an Evidence Recorded against all such who ignorantly look upon thee so to be as afore-said And therefore it becomes thee to be Humbled before the Lord and to Acknowledge thy Errors therein I am not without a Sense what Entertainment my plain Dealing will have amongst many if thou suffer it to be read or spread
distrustful and despairing So the Reader may consider whether this adds to the Account of his Lyes or no. I shall now proceed to cite G. F's Paper WHereas William Rogers hath falsly charged me that I should Flee in time of Persecution and it is spread up and down City and Country and brought to ballance John Story and his Company 's Fleeing in time of Persecution who had a Boy set on a Hill to wave his hat to Friends when they met in Holes and Gills in Westmoreland which brought a Dishonour to God's Truth and People over a great Part of the Nation and several went to admonish him and the others of it but never did any of these these fourteen Years come to me and admonish me concerning Ringwood Meeting or Bristol Meeting where I am reported to Flee as they say in Persecution which are all horrid Lyes As for Ringwood Meeting there is a Certificate to the contrary that clears the thing As for the Meeting at Bristol there came no Souldiers nor Officers while I was in the Meeting neither before nor after Now at that time I lay at Edward Pyotts and several Friends came from Bristol to me and desired me not to come to the Meeting and said What were they and thou art more than a thousand of us if they were taken they said it was no great matter but they would not have me to come unless I was Eternally Moved I reserved my Mind to my self and bid them Go their way and did not say I would or I would not and afterwards I said to Edward Pyott I shall go to the Meeting and one may stay to guide me through the Fields and Edward Pyott said his Son Edward might go with me so walking through the Fields I met Dennis Hollister and Thomas Gouldney and Dennis Hollister said What! would I go in the mouth of the Beast and Thomas Gouldney smil'd at me and I bid them Walk by because many People were walking there and I met George Bishop after and he said what would I go into the mouth of the Dragon and I bad him Walk by Now they did all that ever they could to stop me so I past up into the Meeting and Margaret Thomas was speaking but had quickly done and the Fear was upon the People concerning me but after the Power of God struck the Fear out of them and Life sprang and a precious glorious Meeting we had and when I was cleared I was moved to Pray and when I had stept down about three or four Steps I was moved to turn back again and stood up and told them Now they might see there was a God in Israel that could deliver and so I stept down and went away and Friends began to busle out and I said Why do they busle and make such a throng and George Bishop said 't was time to break up the Meeting so I came down the Stairs and there was neither Officer nor Souldier nor nothing like any such thing and many Friends and People were in the Street Now if I had been persuaded and had hearkned to them that would not have had me come to the Meeting what work would these evil Spirits have made above fourteen Years afterward and for any to say I went up the Back-Stairs I did not know which was Fore-Stairs and which was Back-Stairs but went as I was guided and Friends say since The one was as common as the other This is a Malicious Charge above fourteen Years afterwards and never come to my Face till now to justifie John Story they accuse me Now something I shall say concerning Ringwood Meeting or about a Mile and an Half thence I came there over-night and in the Morning about the sixth hour there came about ten or twelve Women from Pool and I was sitting within in the house till towards the eight hour and it being summer time and hor I walked out with a Young Man into the Orchard and after I had walked a while with him and asked him of the Affairs of Truth for they had been many of them convinced by me before I was Prisoner in Cornwal and there came another Young Man to us and told us The trained bands were rising and he heard they would come and break up the Meeting so one desired me to walk over the Stile it being as I judged about the eight hour so I walked over into the corn fields on the out side of the hedge and one of the Young Men went from me and of the Women some walked in the Orchard and some went to refresh themselves and I asked the Young Man VVhat time of the day it was and he said Betwixt Eight and Nine and I asked him VVhat time the Meeting would come in and he said about Eleven or Twelve of the Clock and I said If the Souldiers should come before that time we might happen to get a good Meeting afterward and the Man said They are Neighbours and Civil People if they should come they would hardly meddle But after the Young Man went from me a matter of two Bow shots he stood under the Hedge waving his Hat to me so I bid the other Young Man see what ailed him so I kept my walking and they did not come at me again and as I turned back to go round about the Orchard there was a place I could see over the Hedge the Souldiers were all over the Orchard I heard say some of the Souldiers did see me but they were loth to meddle so I being out in the open Fields where they might easily see me truly I did not go in among them for it was between nine or ten a Clock and they swept the Barn and got in Stools and Blocks and we had a very large and blessed Meeting till about Three of the Clock and broke up our Meeting in the Power of God and in Peace and afterwards the Woman of the House being Dead some desired me to walk up to a Friends house about two Bowshots off in our way and Friends went along with us and I bad them bring up my Horse thither for I was to ride twenty Miles to one Fries house that Night and so I went up to that house and Friends went generally with me and after we had refreshed our selves we past away in Peace and Quietness and no Souldiers at all came And how can this be called a Fleeing in time of Persecution and that was a horrid Lye that I hid my self in a Ditch there was as I saw but a Bank cast up from a Lane and I think it was a Market High-Way and at this Fries House I had a Meeting and there the Constables came to the Meeting but News was brought That their house was broke up so they let us alone and also I heard that the Souldiers came after from Ringwood to the House when our Meeting was broke up but we knew nothing of them being gone before and they never spake to me
he spoke to a People who were redeemed out of those begganly Elements and were come past those Rudiments which is evident by those his words How turn ye again and soâ—e might well exhort such neither to Circumcise nor yet be in the Observation of Dayes for that God hath not usually led into those things which he hath led out of and this might well consist with the truth even at such a time and season when others through a consciencious scruple might in a Plea for both with respect to themselves respectively according to their differing Faith be Uncondemned I shall now leave it to the Consciences of unprejudised Readers whether what G. F. hath said touching Circumcision and Observation of Dayes Meats and Drinks is sufficient to justifie his advising Mary Penington to secure her Estate from the Spoilers when she durst not remove her moveable goods nor made it as her principle and condemn others that are principled so to do querying of such Whether 't is not from the Spirit of the World that lusteth to Envy With this Testimony I shall conclude this my reply to G. F. that I certainly know him to be a Man guilty of many things which he hath condemned in others and forasmuch as he under the form of Government hath prescribed the giving forth of Papers of Condemnation as a proper means whereby such as in his sense are departed from the Truth may be received into Fellowship with some others again so he must expect that some at least of his known Errors and Failings must lie on Record unless he repent and manifest such his Repentance by an Acknowledgment so publickly spread as his Errors and Failings have been not but that an Acknowledgment unto and Repentance before the Lord in some Cases may be sufficient but because as he hath been an Instrument to lay Stumbling-Blocks in the Way of many so he may even as James Naylor did before him by a candid Acknowledgment unto the Lord's People be an Instrument as much as in him lyes to remove such Stumbling-Blocks and so come into Unity again with the Lord and his People in the Truth from which he hath departed William Rogers I now come to take Notice of a Postscript to G. F's Answer written by John Blaykling who lives at Sedbergh in Yorkshire which by the Way puts me in remembrance thus to premise That though G. F. in his Answer to some part of my Paper which he accounted a False Charge hath thus said And I do believe that are there many in Bristol that have not let in Prejudice and Enmity against me that will witness against this False Chrrge Yet I doubt not but he might on as goodground have said the same with respect to John Blaykling and many in other Places though they may know nothing of the Matters whereof they may pretend to vindicate him because I have lately had over and besides what John Blaykling adds in his Postscript no less than six Letters in Vindication of George Fox and condemnation of me right or wrong some whereof are subscribed with Two Letters whose Names thereby I cannot understand and dated from no Place other some with a Name not known to me nor yet dated from any Place this I may justly term a sort of mean and underly work that is so far from adding Credit to G. F's cause as that 't is to me plain enough that he can get a Iohn Blaykling a T. B. or an S. H. to write or sign any thing when written right or wrong that may in his sense tend to his Vindication and my Condemnation And now to proceed As to John Blaykling's Postscript I find it contains about a Sheet of Paper which thus begins Here followeth the Testimony and Certificate from John Blaykling to the clearing of the Aspersions that William Rogers and others would cast upon George Fox as afore-mentioned Therein he gives a large Testimony for George Fox as a man that renders not Evil for Evil that 's blessed with Honour above many Brethren and that thousands will stand by him in an Heavenly Record unto the Integrity of his Soul to Truth that still lives with him that his Life reigns and is Spotless Innocent and still retains his Integrity whose Eternal Honour and Blessed Renown shall remain yea his Presence and the Droping of his Tender VVords in the Lord's Love was my Souls Nourishment On which I observe that if those thousands are such as John Blaykling John Ware and the twenty seven other persons that signed the aforementioned False Certificate they will never add by that Spirit that led them so to testifie as aforesaid unto his nor their own Credit and though in a Dark Spirit they may term it an Heavenly Record yet I testifie such a Record can never bear date from Heaven because nothing that maketh a Lye can therein enter Moreover as John Blaykling hath given so large a Testimony to George Fox's life as Spotless and as one still keeping his integrity to God and his Truth though he is hereby detected of many Lyes which Method of general Applause at so high a rate used by John Blaykling when undeserved is more like a Parasite to an Earthly Prince than a Serious Well meaning Consciencious Christian to a Servant of Christ that seeks not the Praise of Man so on the other hand hath he vilified me at so large a rate as better became the tongue of a Scold than a Sober Man for therein amongst many other prophane and Scandalous unjust Reproaches in general terms without assigning particular Matters of Fact to prove his general Accusations he hath rendred me one that hath cast lying Slanders upon George Fox though no Lye is proved either by him or George Fox to lie at my Door and that also from a Spirit that through its Envy and Rage against the Government of Christ in the hearts of them that believe ceases not with all its devices with Lying Aspersions to defame the Instruments in God's own Hand calling my Paper a Lying Paper to defame the Brethrens Care in the Church of God whenas there is not a word in all my Paper that can bear any such Construction neither doth he quote any of my words that in Truth do manifest what he so asserts and 't is well known that I have been so far from being in Envy and Rage against the Government of Christ in the hearts of them that believe as that it hath been a great Concern of Conscience to me for several years past both by Word and Writing to contend earnestly for the Exaltation of Christ's Government in the hearts of Believers which is clearly manifested by the import of what I have written in Answer to a part of Robert Barclay's Book of Government my Postscript to my Narrative of Passages at Drawel my Answer to the Brethrens so termed Narrative after the Meeting at Drawel several of my Letters to George Fox the Dissatisfactions subscribed by several as well as
the Authority of God's power have an Vnderstanding given them of God to act and determine in Affairs appertaining to the Gospel and its Order John Blaykling hath been so puft up with spiritual Pride as that the Lord hath suffered his Wisdom to be turned into Folly and his Zeal into Envy whereby he now is as well as heretofore hath been in another Case relating to John Story so dexterous in giving forth a False Certificate And now to conclude I recommend the whole to the Righteous Witness of God in all Consciences nothing doubting but that the Lord will yet more and more arise to oppose that prophane ungodly Spirit which thus strives against his Heritage making Lyes False Certificates Vnjust Slanders and Reproaches as the chief Instruments to take away the Good Name and Reputation of such as cannot bow to the Will of Man nor leave the way of the Spirit of Life wherein they have begun in Expectation to be made perfect through Conformity to Outward Ordinances knowing this that those who have begun in the Spirit cannot be made perfect by the Flesh William Rogers We shall now conclude with a particular Matter relating to G. F. and J. Story George Fox writes unto John Story on this wise John Story I have seen a paper that is scattered up and down in Yorkshire and Westmoreland as I have heard and also that thou shouldst shew it to a Friend at Kendal now if thou hadst had so much Humanity before thou spreadst this Paper abroad thou mightst have sent to me to have known the Truth of it or them that spread it also this practice is not Common Morality nor Civil Honesty amongst Men which I do declare that thou either hast forged or hast some to forge for thee those horrid Lyes for I never thought nor heard of those horrid Lyes before except that of Drunkards and Swearers and it is a VVork of Darkness from a Malicious Spirit The matter thus denied by George Fox is what is contained in a Certificate given under the hand of Henry Sweeting of Hartford which hereafter follows And forasmuch as George Fox hath charged John Story That he either hath forged or hath some to forge them for him meaning many things contained in Henry Sweeting's Certificate and thereupon expresly writes unto John Story in these words Thou must bring forth the Authors and the Informer with his Town and County else they will lie on thine own Head We thought it just and reasonable that what is done in persuance thereof might be here cited that so every Reader 's Judgment may be free and the Reader left to savour in this matter for himself and so we shall leave all after purusal of the following Testimonies to consider whether 't is so rational to conclude John Story a Forger in this Case as George Fox for he that will adventure to add to another man's words and render them as another man's words materially altering the sense which is accounted plain Forgery and not only so but write many Lyes when he may be detected both of the one and the other from the sight of his own Lines and compared with what he pretends to answer even as before is manifested to have been done by G. F. 't is much to be doubted that he might sooner adventure to do as he is charged by Henry Sweeting c. when the Matters charged are not to be proved under his hand for then he hath not only the Advantage to deny the same if he please but also to have recourse to John Blaykling and others for a False Certificate as in another case already treated on in this Section is manifested Here now follows not only the Testimony of Henry Sweeting but of several others to the same purpose GEorge Fox did say that to the Separate Meeting of John Story there was VVhores and Rogues Drunkards and Swearers there came a couple to be married and one stood up and said Mr. Story I take such a one to be my Wife and the other stood up and said Mr. Story I take such a one to be my Husband and they went afterwards to drink and eat some Cake and Cheese and said Sir I will drink to thee and doft his Hat the other said Thank you Sir and doft his Hat and where this was done G. Fox he sent for the woman of the House to know the Truth of it he asked whether it was true and the woman said it was true it grieved her heart to see it Also he said that there was fallen from John Story thirty at one time of the honestest of them These Words were spoken by George Fox in my house in Hartford and if G. F. will come to Tryal I shall then prove the substance of what is above written by other Testimonies that he spake it in this Town in other places Witness Henry Sweeting Ann Sweeting Hartford 29th of the 12th Month 1678. The cause of this my writing is chiefly because I have met with a Paper wherein my name with others is that came from G. F. which is a very abusive Paper although he speaks so much of John Story 's sending and spreading a Paper and not sending to him first G. F. has done it and must not be corrected for this his great failing I shall leave it to the Lord who correcteth and judgeth in Righteousness who is God that sees and knows all Thus much following in Vindication of Truth I coming to Henry Sweeting 's house in Hartford there was George Fox and the time I was there I heard him speak the greatest part of what is in a little Paper written by Henry Sweeting with his name to the same where I spoke to G.F. then asked him Wherefore he related all those miscarriages to which he would not answer me And also I asked him about the Woman High Sheriff that he spoke so much of in our publick Meeting and this he referred me to Thomas Robertson this I here set down that these things may bring him to remember the Truth of what he spoke then so if he did speak a rable of Lyes of people behind their Backs be it upon his own Head and he must be careful in his Travel the time to come to speak nothing but the Truth for indeed I must say I never heard so much spoken by no man that did profess himself to be a minister of the Gospel as if he had surrounded the Countries to get up all the miscarriages and failings done and committed in time past which indeed I told him then at Henry Sweetings That it grieved my heart to hear him relate such things and so I left him at Henry Sweetings where I found him in his Carriage going on hushing any one that had any thing to speak besides himself This in Love from him that is his Friend Edward Perkin Friend G. Fox THou hast sent a Paper to judge me concerning what I heard thee speak about John Story thou deniest it
a part 2d Part p. 85 to 92. Iews An Objection raised Whether they acted not from the Light within in Crucifying Christ An Answer to the said Objection 2 d. Part p. 9 10. Ignorant The way how the Ignorant have been Ensnared 4 th Part p. 32 33. Imposer See Church-Government Independency The written Words of a Publick Preacher insinuating as if the Tendency of some of our Spirits were down-right Independencies are treated on shewing That we are Principled to depend on the Sufficiency of God's Grace and not on Man c. 1 st Part p. 38 to 42. Infallibility As relating to Internal Things annexed only to the Spirit of God 2 d. Part p. 11 12. How Men endued with the Infallible Spirit are Deceived Fallible 2 d. Part p. 12 13. An Animadversion on this Sentence That the Church of Christ is Infallible and cannot Err 3 d. Part p. 13. Iniquity not distinguish't by our Opposers from Conscientious Scruples 3 d. Part p. 50 51. Innovation See Apostacy Innovators 3 d. Part p. 49. A Part of their Doctrine 3 d. Part p. 50. Iohn Story and Iohn Wilkinson Some concerned in drawing up Forty-Four Articles against them confessed under their Hands That 't is not any Personal Trespass against any of them that they charge Iohn Story and Iohn Wilkinson with nor any particular Concern of their own as Men that they are in the Defence of but the Cause of Almighty God and the Wrong they have done to him But yet some of us know and that from their own Writings that their pretended Wrong to God is a Slighting some of George Fox's Rule c. which in some of John Wilkinson's and John Story 's Opposers Sence are to be urged with Severity which is no less than an Enforcing on God's Faithful People 1 st Part p. 86 87 88 89. Iohn Wilkinson writ to some who of late were his Opposers That the Word of the Lord came to him the 20 th Day of the 6 th Moneth 1675. the Import whereof is That the Lord would break his Opposers and turn them one against another about their Orders if they Repent not 4 th Part p. 28. John Wilkinson and John Story their Accusers chuse Judges to Judge the Matters whereof they Accuse them 4 th Part p. 29 30. The Testimony of John Wilkinson and John Story in Relation to Five Heads from whence the Forty-Four Articles of Accusation were drawn up against them relating to Church-Government wherein they particularly bear their Testimony against Payment of Tythes 4 th Part p. 37 38 39 40. Isaac Penington his Testimony touching That Authority which Christ excluded out of his Church and Of the Danger of running into Religious Practices before led thereinto by the Spirit and Of receiving Things for Truths because others see them to be Truths and That the great Error of the Ages of the Apostacy hath been to set up an Outward Order and Uniformity and to make Mens Consciences bow thereto 3 d. Part p. 89 to 98. Iustification and Salvation through Faith in Christ owned and cleared from the Objections of such as have seemed to extend the Benefit of Christs Obedience unto Persons whil'st Sin is reigning in their Mortal Bodies shewing That though such as are in Christ are Redeemed from under the Law which consisted in Carnal Ordinances yet they ought to be subject to the Law of Faith which is accompanyed with Works of Righteousness wrought in Man by the Spirit of God 2 d. Part p. 61 to 71. K KIngdome of GOD Things relating thereto are revealed to the Creature but by one way viz. the Spirit though the Manifestation may be various viz. sometimes through Man or the Scriptures as Instruments and sometimes through Himself 2 d. Part p. 2 3 4. Knowledge without Zeal Some Part of the Fruits thereof discovered 1 st Part p. 73 74 75 76. The Want of Knowledge the Cause of a Perishing Estate and Bowing to Men 2 d. Part p. 25. The Meaning of these Words of the Apostle Knowledge puffeth up 2 d. Part p. 26 27. L LIberty and Forbearance in Robert Barclay's Sence refuted 3 d. Part p 80 81 82. Liberty of Conscience A Description wherein it doth consist 3 d. Part p. 17 18. What that Liberty of the Conscience is that is according to the Gospel In particular it admits of no Liberty to Sin 3 d. Part p. 86 87. Light of Christ What the Measure of it is and the Effects of Obedience to it 1 st Part p. 3 4. See the 2 d. Part p. 2 5 6 7 8. Those who this Day say We were taught to follow the Light in our Consciences and not the Orders of Men and That we will not have Men to Rule over us thereby meaning such Men as being in a Separation from the Establish't Religion by Law would yet be accounted Church-Governours over us utters Language becoming Christians And though Robert Barclay hath reflected on such kind of Language yet 't is proved to be Sound 3 d. Part p. 43 44. M MAgistracy Obedience Active or Passive due to it 2 d. Part p. 30 31 32. Master On what Ground and to whom the word Master is dis-used by us 2 d. Part p. 34. Meetings Some part at least of Nine Meetings for Worship of God in Westmoreland submit their Affairs without Restriction either to Temporal or Spiritual Affairs to Establisht Monthly and Quarterly-Meetings and Discharge the Separates so termed who are reputed to be of Party with John Wilkinson and John Story to concern themselves in their Affairs meaning as by the Scope of their Words appears the Churches Affairs 1 st Part p. 89 90. Such Submission may be by us reasonably taken to be in the Sense of such Submitters a Mark to know a Member of the Church at least in those Parts p. 90. And such their Discharge seems a Token of some Imaginary Authority and Designe of the Exaltation of One Man namely George Fox for which several Reasons are given in the Defamation of others and that the Name of Monethly and Quarterly-Meetings are but as a Conduit to convey it to him p. 90 91 92. See also what is written touching Monethly and Quarterly-Meetings in 1 st Part p. 11 12 13 14 and then consider whether 't is not wholly Irrational that such should assume unto themselves the Title of Church and on that Foot expect Submission p. 14. The Order in Collecting the Sence of such Meetings spoken of 1 st Part p. 14 15. And in what Sence the Counsel in holding such Meetings was embraced and the End thereof 1 st Part p. 15 16. Monethly Quarterly-Meetings of Men and also of Women distinct from Men not owned by us to be Established as a Part of Christ's Government 3 d. Part p. 8 to 14. Womens-Meetings distinct from Men how they came to be held and for what End 1 st Part p. 63 to 67. The General-Meeting hath usually consisted of uncertain Numbers of uncertain Qualifyed Persons 1 st
to entertain a prejudice against his Testimony on Jelousies that may enter on the score of any apprhensions or mistakes of his Book and that Answer that I have given thereto but rather in an unprejudiced Spirit to wait on the Lord to feel and Savour his Testimony even as if the occasion taken had never been This Caution plainly appears to be written on this Charitable foot that would be unjust to measure his present Testimony in publick by his Errours in his Book or from Jealousyes or mistakes of any kind whatsoever And as to these words any apprehensions or mistakes of his Book and that Answer I have given thereto it doth not follow that I mistook or Misapprehended his Book for had I so done I would plainly have confest the same The said Paper as I am Informed is termed my Paper of Condemnation this I suppose is taken from these words that I find written therein viz. I do freely confess that inasmuch as I Publisht my Book before I gave Robert Barclay notice of my Objections and Intentions therein I acted in that respect not according to Gospel Order but am Justly worthy of Blame therein as to this I have this to say that though I confess my self Blame worthy not acting so civil as became me to my acquaintance for that I writ not to him that I Intended to Answer his Book yet I in no respect took Blame to my self more than so and to speak the Naked Truth I rather took more Blame to my self than the Case did require being no way inclined to Extinuate that which I thought was not so Civil as became me I dare not say evil for I really thought that he was in Holland and so knew not where to write to him when I intended to Answer some Passages in his Book but yet alwaies did and still do Justific the spreading abroad of my Answer and that I had no Obligations to send him a Copy thereof since all the Copyes I had Leisure to write were little enough to clear my Conscience by endeavouring to undeceive those who either were or might be deceived by his Book And if by that eminent Preacher's aforesaid earnest Pressing to alterations at a time when I gave not my self up to discourse with any there be any such Word as not according to Gospel Order I must say that Word is rather the Word of that other Persons than any thing freely coming from me For I must say again I am not conscious of any Blame unless my not writing a few Lines to Robert Barclay to signify my Intentions may be termed blame worthy for his Indeavours if he should have been so minded to call in his Book would not have Obstructed my writing that Answer I did because his Book was so spread that 't was out of his Power to call them in and inasmuch as this Book could not be so Properly called a Particular Trespass against me as a Reproach to the Truth in General and the Profession thereof I cannot account my spreading an Answer to detect the Errours a breach of Gospel Orders though not sent to him first Besides t is Observable that the aforesaid account given by Charles Marshall and Thirty six Persons more on this occasion signifies nothing of my acknowledgment to have acted contrary to Gospel-Order And as to the Paper given forth by Charles Marshall and Thirty Six other Persons I have this to say that 't is hereby manifest that the Second Days Meeting in London approved Robert Barclay's Book of Government and so consequently are Approvers of the Errour and False Doctrine therein contained That his Book is Erroneous and doth contain False Doctrine I sufficiently manifested and is more largely treated on in my Answer and if it appeared not to the Meeting as they say it did not I am sorry it should be so but I know it did appear to several of the Meeting and yet I must confess I wonder not at such a Testimony since I certainly know some of the Subscribers of the said Paper have been exercised so much to preach False Doctrine for Sound as that I account such improper Judges of what is False Doctrine and what Sound and as to the rest not so accostomed I hope 't is no worse than the Fruit of their dull hearing or want of Memory However my great Satisfaction is that every unprejudiced Person hath Opportunity to inform himself by a serious Perusal of Robert Barclay's Book without either giving Credit to them or me barely because we so affirm And whereas they thus say And hath dispersed his Manuscript in several parts of this Nation without so much as first giving either to the said Robert Barclay or the Second Days Meeting any Account of his Scruples contrary to all Rules of Brotherly-Love Christian-Fellowship Gospel-Order and the Exemplary Practice of the Church of Christ to the Defamation of the said Robert Barclay the great Derogation from the Christian Authority of the said Meeting and the General Disservice of Truth If by this they mean that my sending abroad my Manuscript was contrary to the Rules of Brotherly-Love c. I utterly disown that Testimony as Erroneous for I have sufficiently proved both by Word and my Manuscript that Robert Barclay's Book is Erroneous containing false Doctrine and inasmuch as 't was Publickly spread abroad to the Dishonour of God and Truth a Concern for the Truth came upon me to discover that Errour that the Souls of the Simple might not be deceived and Inasmuch as I knew that had he been willing to call in his Book yet it could not take off the Obligation on me for 't was out of his Power to call them all in being so publickly dispersed I thought it not my Duty to give him or the Second-Dayes Meeting Copy thereof first yet as soon as my leisure permitted I sent Copy to London directed to Steven Crisp and another publick Person that so when I came to London as afterwards I did they might if I had comitted any Errour therein have treated me according to the merit thereof but when I came to London no one accused my Answer as erroneous in any Respect and if there was any neglect to peruse it 't was their Fault and not mine since there was Opportunity for the said Subscribers to view it for I manifested that I had it with me at the Meeting held as aforesaid and though I desired the Priviledge to make use of it before the Meeting to help my Memory even as Robert Barclay made use of his yet being then desired to forbear I made no use thereof at the Meeting However if they have this to say it was their Duty to have perused it before they had given a Judgement that my dispersing the said Manuscript c. is to the Defamation of the said Robert Barclay the great Derogation of the Christian Authority of the said Meeting and General Disservice of Truth c. but I certainly know all that