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A56109	A testimony of truth given forth by a servant of the Lord, on the behalf of the despised servants, and professors of truth, who are made partakers of the heavenly power, which shakes the earth, and makes the inhabitants of the land to tremble, who are by the scorners of this generation called Quakers against the many lyes and slanders which the devil is the chief author of, arising forth of the bottomlesse pit, and vented forth by one James Livesey a professed minister of Christ in the county of Chester, but by his fruits is plainly manifested a minister of sin, and so of his Father who begat him, and sent him forth to oppose the living truth of God : but his folly is here manifested and declared to open view, that the simple and honest hearted may turn from him and all such deceitful workers, and may learn of Christ the light of the world, that their souls may live.	Parker, Alexander, 1628-1689.	1659 (1659)	Wing P386; ESTC R5756	31,699	39

c. Quakers allow womens preaching as spiritual Ans God hath spoken by his holy prophet saying it shall come to passe in the latter daies that I will pour forth of my spirit upon my Sons and daughters upon my servants and handmaids and where the spirit of God is there is liberty it is not to be quenched neither in Son nor daughter where the seed is witnessed either in male or female to wit Christ who is one in the female as well as in the male and where he rules and reignes he may and ought to speak and this is according to Scriptures but let the woman be silent as saith the Scripture Pr. Papists look upon miracles as signes of the true Church so Quakers Ans This is but the mans imagination because he would have ●o●ething to say as for miracles I do not look for them but if any by the power and spirit of God do work miracles as some have done among us we do own it and give God the honour whose work and power it is and not any work of the creature Pr. Papists put a high esteem on visions and Revelations equalling them with or preferring them above the written Word so Quakers Ans True visions and true Revelations seen and revealed by the true spirit I must needs own if a Turk or infidel should professe the truth it s no worse for their professing of it And so I say that which is revealed by the same spirit which was within them that gave forth the Scripture is one and the same with the Scriptreu for the Truth is the same yesterday to day and for ever Pr. The Jesuites say a man may be saved if he will if he will follow the light c. and the Quakers Ans I have formerly answered to this point yet this further I say the saving power is not in mans will but in Christ the light and whosoever believes in and followes the light shall be saved and he that believes not but followes his own will shall be damned Pr. The Papists extenuate imputed Righteousnesse in setting up their own Inherent Righteeusnesse so Quakers Ans All our own Righteousnesse is as filthy rags and we do not set it up but deny it together with all unrighteousnesse but we exalt and set up Christ who of God is made unto us Righteousnesse Justification Redemption and all other things who dwels in us and is our life and we in him and have our peace Pr. Papists say they can keep all Gods commandements perfectly fulfill the law in their own persons so Bell and the Quakers Ans Through the strength and power of Christ that dwels in us we can do all things and his commandements are not grievous but joyous to us and Christ doth fulfill the Righteousnesse of the Law in us who walk● not after the flesh but after the spirit and whosoever saith he knowes God and keeps not his commandents is a lyar and the truth is not in him Pr. The Church Papists hold that their Church is infallible which at last is the Pope so Quakers Ans We do not hold the Pope to be the Church neither do we believe the Pope to be infallible any more then the Priests and Church of England Pr. Jesuits say there is no foundation for Insants Baptism in the written word Pr. The Jesuites say baptism is of mans institution so Quakers Ans We are bold to affirme it and say there is no command nor example nor practice in the Scripture for Infants baptism it is an invention of man and I lay it upon all the Priests of England and Papists and all who practice it to bring me a proof of it from the Scriptures or else confesse their sin in doing that which was never commanded nor by any of the Ministers of Christ practised Pr. Jesuites make their Pope a God c. Quakers make themselves Gods curse men damn them to Hell Ans It seemes this Priest is wholly given up to the Devil in venting forth so many and grosse wicked lyes we do not make our selves Gods but denie our selves and take up the Crosse and and follow Christ But we do witnesse that God dwels in us and we never curse men nor damn them to Hell but we testifie against sin which if not forsaken and repented of will lead men to Hell for the wages of sin is death Pr. Jesuites call us heriticks dogs c. and the Quakers calls us the brood of Cain Baals Priests false prophets Seducers c Ans They that are envious and wrathful are of Cains generation and off spring and if we find any of the priests of England in that nature we must tell them the truth it is no other language then what the spirit of the Lord hath given to deceivers and false prophets in times past and the priests of England being found in the same steps and covetous practices we do them no wrong to give them their right names Pr. Papists place most in external observations seeming authority so Quakers Ans The lyar will arive at Hell at last when he hath filled up his measure once more I testifie that we do not place most in outward things but in Christ is our strength who works in us to will and to do of his good pleasure Pr. Papists prefer Jeromes version of the Bible before the Hebrew and the Greek so Fox and others deny Greek and Hebrew to be the original preferring the English Ans Where did ever this opposer hear Fox and others speak of preferring the English before the Greek and Hebrew the English we own in its place and so Hebrew and Greek but not any of these Languages can open the mysteries of God therefore let all flesh be silent before the Lord and let God alone be exalted Pr. The Jesuits cast off prayer to God and pray to Saints c. Quakers have cast off prayer to God when do they pray in their families meetings c. Ans H●re is a Charge and a question laid down the charge is that Quakers have left off praying to God Now if the Quakers have not left off prayer to God then Ia. Livesey is a lyar but they have not left off prayer to God as thousands in this Nation can testifie but pray often both in their meetings and in their families as the spirit of God doth move and guide them therefore is Livesey a lyar Pr. The Jesuites say that the Empire of learning is within the heritage of the Jesuits so Quakers say we are in darknesse all our eyes are out theirs onely open A. Every tree is known by his fruits so we say of the Priests of England after all their talking and profession and having received so much mony see what may be reaped in their fields even a great Crop of corruption pride and covetousnesse reigning in themselves and what can be expected to be brought forth in people but like Priest like people wandring astray like sheep without a

Ministers are the Ministers of Christ Answ For satisfaction of the honest hearted I shall declare who are the true Ministers of Christ that is to say such as have received perfect gifts from God freely and are made Minsters by the will of God and sent forth by his power to turn people from darkness unto light and from the power of Satan unto God who freely Minister as they have freely received who cover no mans gold silver nor apparrel but preach the word of God freely at all times and seasons as the spirit doth move and give utterance and many such there are amongst those that the scorners of this world do call Quakers who preach the Gospel of salvation freely not seeking money or maintenance and many within these few years in England by the power of this Ministry received from God have been converted from sin unto God Pr. Whether Jesus Christ have any especially designed for his work or none but himself the Prophet of his Church Answ Christ is the head of his body the Church and is the great Prophet and from him who is the head every member of the body receives nourishment and refreshment but I do own a Ministry ordained and sent forth by him for the perfecting of the Saints and for the edifying of the body until we all come into the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man even to the measure and stature and fulness of Christ as I have said before Pr. When the Ministry of England began to be Anti-christian and how long it hath been so Ans The Antichristian powers of darkness hath raigned long and I question much whether ever the National Ministry of England were free from Anti-christianism though I do believe the Lord hath had many pretious people in it who in their time have stood faithful witnesses for God some have suffered death but the Ministry was never throughly purged from popery no not to this day but most things practized are Popish inventions as their Schools and Colledges where they make their Ministers little or nothing differing from the Papists Schooles and Colledges where they make their Ministers their maintenance by Tythes vicarage houses gleab lands c. even as the Papists do and many other things there are wherein they do agree so that it is hard to tell the time when it began but this I say in the night of Apostacy since the daies of the Apostles it begun Pr. What it is that renders them Antichristian taking of Tythes or what Ans Taking of Tythes is one thing that renders them so but there be many other things as their call into the Ministry and being made Ministers by the will of man and their set maintenance great sumes of mony by the year their doctrine and practices scarce any one thing is acted or done by them in all that which they call the worship of God as it was acted or done in the daies of the true Apostles and if it were so that they were found in the very practice of the Apostles yet not being led by the same spirit it is antichristian for the Christian worship was in the spirit and in the truth and all peoples nations though they may have all the words given forth from the spirit if they be not in the spirit and in the truth they be false worshipers and are Antichristian that professe Christ in words but have not the life of Christ within them more I might say as to these things but so much having been written already by others I shall proceed further only I take notice of three accusations against us that is 1. That we deny the Trinity of persons 2. The Divine authority of the Scriptures 3 And the Souls immortality to the two first I have already spoken and the Soul we say is immortal and so I leave the lyar to receive his portion in the lake of endlesse misery Rev. 21.8 Now I come to ●● particulars wherein this opposer goes about to cast an odium upon the Quakers bringing several things which he saith the Jesuites and Papists holds it seems he is well acquainted with them but what is that to the matter because the Devil believes there is a God shall not I believe truth because the Devils believes If Jesuites an I Papists Turks and Infidels hold any truth their holding of it shall not make me deny it but truth I shall own where ever I finde it and all Lyers and false accusers and that which is contrary to truth I deny but I shall come to the particulars and what concerns those whom he calls Quakers I shall speak to and what concernes the Jesuites and Papists let them answer for themselves if they will Pr. Jesuites have low base and vile thoughts of the Scripture it s with them a nose of Wax a dead letter no sufficient ground of Faith nor judge of controversies so Bellarmine c. so Quakers Ans That the Quakers have low base and vile thoughts of the Scriptures is very false and wickednesse it is to say so for we dearly own and highly prize the Scriptures and own them to be a true testimony of him who is the author and foundation of faith Christ Jesus but life is not to be found in the Scripture but in Christ who is the life and the quickning spirit who is the judge of all controversies according to the Scriptures Pr. Jesuites and Papists cries up salvation by the light and law of nature without the knowledge of Christ c. so Quakers Ans We say as I have said before salvation is by Christ who is the light of the world and lighteth every man that commeth into the world and not by the light and law of nature without the knowledge of Christ this charge is altogether false as to the Quakers as for the other let them answer for themselves Pr. Papists say the Church of England is no true Church They say the Ministry of England is antichristian and so Quakers Ans To both these I have spoken of before to which I refer the Reader Pr. Subesse Romano pontifici est de necessitate salutis No salvation for us unlesse we become Catholicks in their sence Quakers say we are all damned except we turn Quakers Ans We say this and it is no more then truth that except ye repent and be converted ye must all perish But as for the words as they are laid down they proceed from the wickednesse of his evil heart and are not true our way is Christ and this is the way of holinesse and is but one and there is none other and to this way must all come that are saved and must know trembling and quaking before all wickednesse be thrown down and truth and righteousnesse be set up therefore let none despise the power of God least ye be cut of in his feirce wrath Pr. Jesuits allow women to do the worke of the Ministry

shepherd but the day of the Lord is dawned and the Lord hath opened our eyes praises to his holy Nime and we desire that their eyes may be opened that they might see their filthiness and repent that their souls might live Thus I have gone through his 20. particulars and what is truth I have owned and what is not I have denyed and turned it back again into the old bottle from whence it sprung I shall hasten to an end for it is out of my life to wade in such muddy filthy stuff as this is onely for Truths sake to remove the stumbling block out of the way of the simple And now whosoever thou art that reads this let not prejudice enter into thee but in the feare of God weigh and try things and hold fast that which is good The next thing I meet with is some questions which he propounds and then goes about to answer or give his censure I may speak somthing to the questions and to other things as the Lord moves Qu. What may we rationally and Charitably conceive or judge of the Quakers pretended piety and sanctity have the truth of grace in them or no Ans Wicked ungodly men such as I have found this Priest a Lyar a Blasphemer a false accuser have nothing to do to judge of the Piety and Sanctity of the people of God but they themselves are reserved for the judgement of the great day when the ●ord Jesus shal be revealed from heaven with his mighty Angels in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God that obey not the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ who shall be punished with evelasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his power when he shall come to be glorified in his Saints and to be admired in all them that believe this day is comming on apace wherein the deceits of all deceivers shall be made manifest and this know that our Piety and Sanctity is not pretended but true and firm proceeding from the true root and sure foundation and we have the truth of grace in us by which we are taught to deny the deceitful Ministry of Antichrist and all ungodly lusts and pleasures and to live a godly and sober life in this present World Some things I take notice of in this opposers pretended answer to this first question which he chargeth upon the Quakers which justly falls upon his own head false doctrine saith he begets false Piety now what can be falser doctrine then to deny perfection and cleansing from sin this opens a door to wickednesse and strikes at the life of Religion denying the very end of Christ his comming and being manifested which is to destroy the works of the Devil so this is the ground of the bad conversation and fals piety and whereas he seems to strike at the converfation and practises of those called Quakers I leave it to all sober people to judge whether the Quakers or the Priests walkes more strictly and soberly and which of them deny themselves the most for those who are found most in solf-denial are the lowest disciples of Christ and whereas he queries how can a good life and an ill belief stand together corrupt head corrupt heart commonly go together corrupt principles breeds and seeds corrupt practicer all these considered they fall heavy upon the Priests and carnal professors for how can there be any worse belief then to believe that people shall never be pure nor clean nor overcome sin while they live this is the ill belief from whence all the corrupt practices have liberty but we own no such faith but our faith is the gist of God which purifies our hearts and gives us victory over the World the lusts of it and so a good belief and a good life stands firme and fast together and whereas he speakes of the power of Goddlinesse and the powen of sin cannot dwell together I say that the Priests of England are so fur from the power of godlinesse that few are come so far as the forme of godlinesse but are spending their time like dreamers keeping people in the dark alwaies learning but never able to come to the knowledge of God 2. Qu. What is the Religion of the Quakers Ans Our Religion is not known to the World nor ever can be learned by a wordly principle but the sum of it is this to love God with all our hearts and our neighbours as our selves to visit the fatherless the widdows in their afflictions and to keep our selves unspotted from the World and whosoever shall learn our Religion which is the one true religion must own that principle of light which is of Christ which shines in the conscienoe and stands as a witness against all sin and evil and leads out of the Worlds Lusts and vanities into holiness and Righteousnesse which exercises the conscience towards God and man and leads in the way of Justice and Righteousness for our Religion doth not admit of any sin or iniquity whatsoever but is holy and pure by which we are joyned to God and have unity with him and worship him in spirit and truth 3. Qu. Is it your duty to indeavour the conviction of them Ans We are convinced long ago of the evil of the Priests of England and of the deadness and emptiness of their forms and dead observations and the Lord hath turned us from them and have converted us from evil unto good and we are his and in vain it is for all the Priests in England with all their cunning craft to convict or draw us back again no no we are drawn by the cords of everlasting love out of that thick mire and Clay which they and thousands of their hearers stick fast in and it is our desires and also our endeavours to draw them out of it that they may feed with us at the Lords Table and eat plentifully to the satisfying of their hungry souls And whereas he speaks of prayer to God for us alas poor man his prayers we deny God hath no regard to him and his prayers they are abomination because of his great wickedness Therefore before he talk of praying for others let him repent of his sin left God cut him down and cast him off for ever Furthermore this opposer vomits up more of his filthyness and wickednes saying now they cast by the written word saying salvation is attaineable without Christ Oh! horrible wicked lyar Gods vengeance hangs over his head Scriptures we own and Christ alone our salvation Further he goes on and saies Quakers are hereticks therefore are to be rejected and left to the civil Magistrates Cognizance Ans By this I smell his wicked spirit no lesse then blood would satisfie that spirit but the Lord hath put a curb in their mouthes that 's the spirit of an heretick that would punish the bodies of people and not the spirit of the true Apostles for they wrestled not against