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A89857	A vindication of truth, as held forth in a book, entituled, Love to the lost, from the lies, slanders and deceits of T. Higgenson, in a book, called, A testimony to thc [sic] true Iesus. But he is discovered to hold forth another Iesus then what the Scriptures hold forth, or the saints witness. / I.N.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1656 (1656)	Wing N326; Thomason E886_8; ESTC R202994	44,930	58

them spiritually which is the Comforter even the Spirit of truth to guide them into all truth and this Christ holds forth as their greater power and comfort Yea and when they had received him so they said though they had known Christ after the flesh they knew him so no more how much less is a talk of him whom you never see neither with out nor within with his presence in spirit which is the main end why he came in the flesh in his own person that through faith in him who was the first begotten from the dead he might appear in spirit in all his and dwell in them guide and govern in them for ever as his dwelling place in this world from generation to generation for evermore in which body he is vailed from the worlds wisdom now as ever he was and in whom he now suffers as he hath ever done I say how much short such are of the knowledge of a living Christ his presence or redemption these times may judge and the fruits thereof for where Christ is the body is dead because of sin and the spirit is life because of righteousness but where a talk of Christ onely is the body of sin lives such would murther him where he is come under a pretence of their denying Christ at Jerusalem when they do not onely believe what he did there but also witness him in them their Saviour at present from sin and the power of Satan which is the end why he came at Jerusalem and with out which the other saves not And for this hast thou setup thy horn against it and hast brought out this heap of confusion to shew thy self blind with the rest of thy earth born brethren who are at strife one with another but now joyned together in open battel against the light of the Lamb which is risen to reveal your dark foundation and that your curious Babel may become a heap of rubbish till there be not left a way in nor our nor a place to hide you And such a heap there of is in the other part of thy book as might fill a volume to repeat and answer but the substance thereof being answered in this foregoing or in other books I shall say little onely give thee and the world a veiw of some few of thy errors and let the Scripture reprove them such as these following Errors THat there are three way to know God when as there is but one way even Christ from the beginning though in several Ministrations John 14. 6. That the knowledge of God according to the Law is Idolatry whereas God hath said I will write my Law in your hearts and you shall know me which is the new Covenant neither was it ever Idolatry to know God after the Law Heb. 8. 8 9 10 11. Jer. 31. 32 34. Jam. 1. 25. That the Doctrine of Devils doth preach a Jesus Gospel and Spirit 2 Cor. 3. 16 17. That all men know God according to his Godhead Mat. 11 27. 1 Cor. 15. 34. 2 Thes 1. 8. That a Man while enclosed enclosed up in a body of sin and death is at the same time raised up into the heavenly Righteousness Immortality and freedom above all sin or shadow of evil Math. 6. 24. Rom. 6. 16. John 8. 34 35 36. Rom. 8. 12. That Christ cannot be seen by the obedience of the Spirit within us 1 Cor. 12. 3. Rom. 8. 14. That those whose root and foundation is what Christ is and hath done in himself but the way to partake of the benefit of it is their union with him such do by lust crucifie his Spirit and Grace within John 15 4 5. That the Gospel being a Mystery of things hid in Christ is neither written nor to be seen in the heart of man 1 Tim. 3. 9. Rom. 10 8 9 10. That the Gospel as a Commandement and Peice of morality may be read and beleived by every man and yet sayes in another place the Gospel is hid from all principles of flesh 2 Cor. 4. 3 4. That the Mystery of God in Christ is not to be known by his enlightening within men 2 Cor 4. 6 7. That the Spirit set up asunder from the letter brings forth a twofold error both perilous and hurtful 2 Cor. 3. 6. Rom. 7. 6. That affirming the Light in the Conscience the way or guide to Christ is a darksom and fleshly principle wherein Christ and his Redemption is forgotten for ever 1 Tim. 1. 19. and 3. 9. That all just Laws of Nations are beams from Christ as he is the Light and Word of God to the natural man but not as he is a Redeemer John 1. 9. and 5. 33. That the Light within for matter and substance is the same with the Law of Moses and was not given for righteousness nor can reveal life Rom. 10 7 8 9 10 2 Cor. 4. 6. That Christ came to deliver us from the light within Luke 11. 34. 35 36. That Christ is no giver of Laws Isai 33. 22. 1 Cor. 9. 21. Jam 4. 12. Rom 8. 2. That Christ set forth as the Word the Light the Truth the Spirit as a Man holy spotless separate from sinners as a living example to the world of perfect obedience to the Law of the Spirit and life of God so denies and blots out the glory of his grace as being the end of the Law Rev. 19. 13. John 8. 12 John 14. 6. Heb. 7. 26. 1 Pet. 2. 21. Rom. 8. 2. That a Man may see himself dead and buried with Christ and raised up together with him and not by any obedience to Christ within 1 Pet. 1. 2. 22. That the Light within is that spirit of this world that hath formed all false resemblances of Christ Luke 11. 34 35. 36. That the true likeness and Image of Christ is not known to the light within 1 Cor. 12. 3. That the conception of Christ as a Law-giver and work is an Idol and the root of all idolatrous Religions James 4. 12. Isay 33. 22. That the Law in the conscience arose against Christ 1 Pet. 3. 21. That a Man is justified from sin while the Light within condemns of sins 1 John 3. 19 20 21. That Jesus Christ came forth and took the work of the Law out of the heart Rom. 2. 15 16. That the Light within accusing for sin pertaineth onely to the flesh John 16. 8 13. That Christ comes not down into our persons as a light accusing for sin John 16. 8 13. That Light within which leads to know God as God and glorifie him as God and returns to God obedience there to just and perfect as God is just and perfect this knows nothing of the Gospel-Ministry God manifested in flesh 2 Cor. 4. 6. That this Light was not given for righteousness which will do all this before mentioned These need no answering to any who have received and felt any thing of God they can all witness that not any thing of God did

A VINDICATION OF TRUTH As held forth in a Book ENTITULED LOVE TO THE LOST From the Lies Slanders and Deceits of T. HIGGENSON in a Book called A Testimony to the true Iesus But he is discovered to hold forth another Iesus then what the Scriptures hold forth or the Saints witness I. N. LONDON Printed for Giles Calvert and are to be sold at the Black-Spread-Eagle at the West End of Pauls 1656. A Vindication of Truth as held forth in a Book entituled Love to the Lost Friend THou sayes thou shall present a veiw of that Spirit that is in the Quakers having obtained a more perfect understanding of that way and sum of our faith and profession which thou sayes is come forth signed by James Naylor And this thou sayes thou wilt do in love to us To which I say that which is come forth by James Nayler was presented already and hadst thou been able to have said something against it as by me presented and proved it in plainness not to have been the faith and spirit that was in the holy men of God then hadst thou done something to purpose But in that thou hast left what truth I presented and instead thereof hast presented a heap of falshoods and deceits out of thy own bosom as like my words as thou well could make a lie to the truth And hast made people beleive thou hast disproved something of mine when thy work hath but been to fight with thy own falshood and so confound thy self instead of confuting me This makes it appear that thou art not perfect in thy understanding of our way and spirit the sum of our faith and profession or else wickedly ignorant that thou mayst take occasion to cast thy reproach upon us and the truth and faith we profess Indeed who reads my book and thy slanders gathered from thence as thou pretends will say the later is the more like seeing thou hast so often repeated over thy own wicked slanders fathering them on me which hath no footing at all in my book As that I deny the person of Christ the death of Christ the bloud of Christ the once offering of Christ for all c. that I say the light in every man is God and Christ and Redemption is the baptism of Christ is Gods Righteousness and many such like abominable lyes never spoken by me which thou often over accusest me that I say so that any moderate man may wonder that ever any who have but a shew of religion should be so void of the fear of God or have so little bridle for the tongue as thou hast shewed in this thy work But that conceit thou hast of being justified before thou wast born and before either faith or works hath given thee such a dispensation as that thou matters not much what thou sayest being justified beforehand nought thou dost can condemn thee Christ hath born away all thy sins before thou was begotten or born and thou shalt never bear them nor they be charged upon thee a principle of wickedness called faith to cheat the soules of people and keep them bold in their sins at which all that knows the righteousness of God and his terrors against sin may weep to think on And in all which instead of discovering our spirit thou are discovered thy spirit and foundation but what is come forth signed by James Nayler stands as it was thy lies being taken away which some of them I shall lay open with thy confusions thereupon as to the later part of thy book which pretends an answer to my writing in Love to the lost The other part though a heap of confusion I shall not much meddle with as to answer the substance thereof falling within the other part nor shall I write much to any of it truth is tryed and stands not by words So to the first particular as followeth First Concerning the fall of man ANd in this thou tels of the sum of things spoken by me but sums up thy own lies amongst it not having matter from my words to accuse me with Doth my words say that Gods own Wisdom and Spirit remains in faln man but as a captive and that that was his fall or do I say that by looking and turning not to any thing without but to that of God lying under and covered within him and that that is the bloud of the Cross and his redemption Art not thou ashamed instead of answering to my words to become an accuser openly had it not been thy wisdom rather to have been silent if thou durst not have entred upon my words as they stand then to have made thy self way with lies and then to disprove thy lies thy self And not any thing that I have said dost thou appear against onely in thy seeming answer or mist which thou casts thou adds more lies saying that I say that there is that in the natural man which being turned into and followed can redeem and make attonement a thing never spoken by me nor never entred into my heart for it is in the spiritual man that the attonement is made and not in the natural Thou further sayes That the obedience of Christ was not the righteousness of one which is as false concerning Christ as the other concerning me as whoever reads Rom. 5. 18 19 shall read there in plain words Other things thou sayes As that we are not made righteous by looking back and turning to the first Adam c. A thing never spoken by me nor intended onely thou dost disprove thy own deceitful slander cast on my words and so in the most places of thy book which I shall not much mention seeing they touch not my words as he that reads my words may see not one sentence of mine hast thou disproved in this answer Thou adds a piece of false doctrine which I shall discover Thou sayes by looking out of everything in man to the second Adam I say he whose eyes is without and not within cannot see the second Adam for he cannot be seen but by revelation and in spirit he is known and seen since his ascention and hath been to all his as these Scriptures will plainly prove Galat. 1. 16. Col. 1. 27. And I demand of thee and all thy generation to make it appear how the second Adam is now seen but in the spirit by faith within till then blame me not for saying this of thine is false doctrine I know there is a sort of you who have conceited a carnal sight and have run in your carnal expectations from year to year therein till you are become spiritually blind but if that be it thou here intends thou must reckon thy self for the present amongst those who have neither seen him nor known him who denies his revelation in spirit and so being intruding into that which the eye hath not seen no marvel though thou speak so darkly of him as thou dost in this thy book and would lead men from the

I ght within a thing by me never spoken or written Secondly thou sayes That nothing is said by me of Christ manifest in flesh or his crucified body or righteousness that way Poor man how hath wickedness over-run thee to add lie to lie Are not these my words That Righteousness that God accepteth is but one which is his own perfectly fulsilled and manifest in the world in Jesus Christ the Light and Savi ur thereof and that none inherits it surther than they receive the Son of righteousness And is this nothing of Christ but it is no new thing to me to see the refuge of lies with that spirit which now opposeth nor for me to be called a Railer because I will not either say they are truths or find out some finer name to call them than lies But to leave them and go on to thy doctrine thou sayes We are justified without works onely through faith which is as false as the Scripture is true for faith the Apostle Ye see then how that by works a man is justified and not by faith onely James 2. 24. And Christ faith By thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned Math. 12. 37. And not the hearers of the Law but the doers are just before God Rom. 2. 13. Now if these Scriptures be true then thine is false but such is thy blindness that because the Scriptures doth exclude the works of the Law for justification therefore thou wilt exclude the works of faith which are wrought in God also A fine easie way to salvation and well pleasing to you that love your lusts but that neither God nor Scripture knows it nor the Saints practise Further thou sayes He that can but beleive this is perfectly purged and there is no more conscience of sin though yet the feeling of sin I say what is thou now intends feeling of sin but make no conscience Is not this plain Ranting to commit sin and feel it and make no conscience of it this indeed is the ready way to murther the Witness to stop the ear at his reproof and to make shipwrack of a tender conscience and so in time to get it seared and so no more conscience of sin do what you will do but imagine all is pardoned past present and to come let the light in the conscience say what it can hope against hope sayest thou The Righteousness of Christ is a covering upon sin c. I say I know who repents and turns to him he doth But doth Christs Righteousness cover sin to come and whilst men are committing it one day thou wilt find that it is not covered but thou that hast seared thy conscience it will appear when thou shalt cease to deal treacherously with the witness that would have dealt truly with thee but how is Christs Righteousness a covering on thy sin when thy sin is in thy heart and thy cover no nearer than above the Stars If ever God look down upon the earth thou wilt be found naked and the day is upon thee look to it thy Ranting faith hath not long to last and thy cover will be but deceit wo to thee that art covered and not with the Spirit Concerning the word IN this like the rest thou enters with a lie saying That we say the light within all men is the word not minding at all to speak truth thou tels of sin being covered but the liar is openly seen and shames not And when thou hast made one lie thou infers another from it If the Light within every man be the Word then all ages have had the Gospel in equality c. Then thou adds another as false as the rest saying That Truth sayes the Light is the remaining sparkles of the Law and represents God onely under a vail When Truth saith the Life is the Light of men and this is that true Light that lighteth every man that comes into the world John 1. And Christ saith I am the Light of the world he that follows me shall not abide in darkness but shall have the light of life John 8. 12. And the Saints came to the knowledge of God in the face of Jesus by the light within and this was not onely under the vail which was in the face of Jesus 2 Cor. 4. 6. though vailed to thee who denies the light of the Spirit and sayeth truth sayes it when truth denies thee therein nor hast thou one Scripture that saith so And when thou hast shewed thy Spirit by thy works then thou art forced to confess him to be within his in spirit the word of revelation yet would make two words a word of Reconciliation and a word of Revelation and in dividing this word in to two thou confounds thy self First thou sayes these two are not one without the other then thou sayes the one must finish his work before the other could come and such blind muddy stuffe thou art bewing in but what I write in my book stands as it was Yet thou adds two lies more the first is That we beleive not the word of Reconciliation which thou cals thy first word which is false for though we beleive not two words yet we beleive that one word which is the word of Reconciliation and Revelation and there is not another Thy second lie is of the Light in saying it knows Christ in neither Concerning worship IN this thou sayes that I affirm that the Spirit of Life from God wherein is the mind will and love of God the name power and wisdom of Christ wherewith alone God can be acceptably worshipped is in every man A thing that never entred into my heart but surely friend thou matters not what thou sayes thus to add thy wickedness and false accusations because I say none must follow the traditions of others but as every creature is moved by the presence of the living God do I therefore say that the spirit of God is in every man this conclusion is more wickedness than weakness But to thy doctrine Thou sayes The word of faith sayes that the Law without or Spirit in every man that sayes do this and live are the vail c. I say where doth the word of faith say that the Spirit within is a vail or where doth it call the Spirit within the Law without thou must find a new word for this for the true everlasting Word saith not so but faith There is a spirit in man and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding Job 32. 8. but doth not say that that Spirit of God is the vail of which Spirit I am speaking whatever thou pervert it to but is all thy spiritual teaching come to this that the Spirit in which God will be worshipped becomes a vail and that to abide in any law or light whatsoever either from within or without and to be exercised therein as to be redeemed or perfected thereby this they say is to worship God as in

9 10. 1 Thes 4. 3. 1 Tim. 2. 4. These with many other Scriptures will prove what I have said prove thy consequence as thou canst Thou sayes also If the second be so then the Law and free grace is the same So by thy doctrine and consequence if that Comforter Christ speaks on which reproves the world of sin and the light of Christ be free grace then the law and free Grace are the same a strange consequence like the former Is not the light of the world free grace John 8. 12. John 16. 8. and the Spirit of God free grace If that be not then what is seeing Christ and the Spirit is denied Further sayest thou If the light God hath put into all men be the gift of grace the gift of heavenly righteousness by Christ wherein is the end of the law and sin heeded I say what thou intends by thy consequence by sin heeded let the Reader judge if he can but that the light is the gift of grace that I own and wert not thou blind thou would not imagine any light of God given to man which is not the gift of grace it must either be of grace or of works and what work hast thou done to obtain the gift of Christ light Thou sayes If the third be so then there is that in the natural man whereby he is able to know and receive the things of the Spirit I say Thy Charge in this is a lie not my words and thy consequence is of the same vote and so to thee I leave them being thy own work to say and gainesay but that the light of Christ who ever minds it and follow it is able to lead to receive the things of the Spirit that I have proved John 8. 12. and divers other places Another deceit to cast a mist over the light is thou sayes The deep things of God his grace in Christ sparkling in the old time now in one promise now in another and foretold by the Prophets whereof the Righteousness of the Fews Philosophers and Grecks knew nothing this cannot be discovered by the clearest light in the natural man I say Here are two deceits covered in this first as though none of the Jews or Saints did discern this before Christ came at Jerusalem the second as though the clearest light with which Christ enlightneth men within could not lead to the discerning of him which are both contrary to Christs words who saith Abraham saw my day and to the Prophets he was born Isaiah 9. 6. And saith Christ I am the light of the world he that follows me shall have the light of life John 8. 12. And so with the words of truth thy mist is driven away and the truth cleared from thy deceits And then as thou begun thy work with lies so thou ends with two lies more thou casts upon us That we level the mystery of the second Adam and the restoring of all things in him to be no other thing but Law and Reason Secondly That we make the death of Christ of none effect and the whole mystery of grace in him But seeing thou dost falsly slander us herein I shall state the case truly as it is in this Question Whether they that believe Christ died at Jerusalem and witness his bloud in them whereby their hearts are sprinkled and washed from lying deceit and pride and uncleanness by the in-dweiling of Christ in them so kept according to the measure of Christ revealed in Spirit Or they who say that Christ died at Jerusalem but deny him in them to redeem and save them from the power of sin or his bloud in them to sprinkle and wash them daily from dead works Or any light of his whatsoever either within or without to be exercised in to freedom and perfection but say they were washed sanctified and justified before they came into the world but in the world are found liars and false accusers and deceitful teachers this being the true case between thee and us I leave it to the wise to judge who it is that denies Christ Jesus the everlasting Priest which abideth for evermore to every generation and who it is that makes his bloud of none effect as to wash away sin and to restore all things to God and whether the effect of the bloud of Christ be to take away sin or to talk on whereby to plead for sin against the present being and effect thereof to wit to keep out of the Devils works Now who owns the bloud of Christ let the effect manifest to all men And know thou that the bloud of Christ is not words not imaginations of what thou never see before thou was born but a living substance which is to be known with its effect to every particular Saint in every generation and such who say they are saved by the bloud of Christ before they were but now are found in their sins are such as deny the bloud of Christ and to them they make it of none effect who are not washed and they who say they was purged sanctified and justified before they were and now when they are are unclean boasts of that they never saw and trusts in a lie for talking what Christ was by the history is one thing which all have and believe and yet abide in condemnation and without further may perish but to learn Christ in the mystery of faith which is held in a pure Conscience is another and onely such know him aright both what he did at Jerusalem and the end of it who follow him now in spirit and have fellowship in his death and sufferings and so attains to his resurrection in the spirit and life and so follow in his life and righteousness such onely confess him and shall not therein be condemned Much more might be said to lay open thy deceits in thy other part of thy book but my life is not to rifle in such heaps of confusion were it not that I am forced to it for clearing the truth from false Teachers who are wholly ignorant of the mystery of faith which is held in a pure Conscience and so know nought but in the natural comprehensions as brute beasts judging of the great mystery of God and his redemption to stand in visibles and carnal things times and places which things in their carnal wisdom they make use on to fight against the spiritual appearance of Christ in the Creature without which there can be neither life nor redemption No Christ himself onely known after the flesh brings no man to God but Christ revealed in spirit from heaven that everlasting Light and Glory of the Father the eternal Spirit and Comforter that could not come till he went away in the flesh And if his presence was not the full accomplishment of the great promise of the Father and the Son but he must go away in the flesh out of their carnal sight no more to be in the world carnally but in