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A54193 Plain-dealing with a traducing Anabaptist, or, Three letters writ upon occasion of some slanderous reflections given and promoted against William Penn by one John Morse published for common benefit that all impartial people may be better acquainted with the invective spirit of some so called, and their ungodly sly way of defaming such as dissents from them, especially in their restless indeavours against the poor Quakers / by W.P. Penn, William, 1644-1718.; Morse, John, 17th cent. 1672 (1672) Wing P1339; ESTC R25028 10,409 19

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Plain-Dealing With a Traducing ANABAPTIST Or Three LETTERS VVrit upon occasion of some Slanderous Reflections given and promoted against William Penn by one John Morse Published for Common Benefit that all Impartial People may be better acquainted with the Invective Spirit of some so called and their ungodly fly way of Defaming such as dissent from them especially in their Restless Indeavours against the Poor QUAKERS By a Lover of Charity and Sincerity in all W.P. Printed in the Year 1672. Reader WIth what regret of spirit I behold the Controversies of our Time and how Unpleasant it is to me to be concern'd therein God he is Witness And I think it cannot reasonably be hard for any to believe me when meer Reputation would forbid a man to subject his Religion or Good Name to the Folly and Malice of every inconsiderable Wrangler But so intollerable are many Separatists and of them some Anabaptists in their Lyes Slanders Traducings and what not which may proceed from Wrath and Envy that lest some of the Dirt they throw should stick we are necessitated to that Defence we neither think the Truth otherwise wants nor our Adversaries could deserve at our hands and least of all the man concern'd in these Letters But we have the less reason I confess to expect good Quarter from him who denies it to his Church-Sister or doubt that he should slyly suggest Evil against us who basely goes to Law with her and that before those who by his own Principles he accounts Unblievers Only we cannot but think it a strange Use that these men make of Tolleration to persecute by Revilings those that have most suffered for want of it as if they would walk Antipodes to the Government For whilst that persecuted they seem'd to pitty us but now that tollerates they appear to envy us What do they think it a Blemish to Tolleration That any should be quiet but themselves and therefore will continue that as justifiable in them which they accounted condemnable in the Powers But this notably shows their spirit who thus adventure to persecute without Power Let who will believe they would not do it if they had power for my own part I declare my self none of that number and think it the best way both to wish and lawfully endeavour they may neuer have any to try Reader I have nothing farther to say in this Epistle but that the Person herein concern'd unworthily reflecting upon me for something in a Discourse I lately publisht against the close but faint Endeavours of a vizarded Socinian as that I was an Erroneous and Blasphemous Person terms the most hateful to a Christian Man I writ him as in Conscience oblieg'd a kind of Challenge to make it good which he vainly endeavour'd by his Answer as my Reply will further manifest Perhaps their Publication may be seasonable if not to some of their own way for which I greatly hope at least to others and I am confident to all who cordially love Truth Righteousness and Peace above charging God with Hardness and impeaching that People as Erroneous which most vigorously believe and assert the Universality of his Rectitude and Mercy W.P. John Morse UNderstanding that thou hast made use of my Name to so evil a purpose as to charge upon it Error if not Blasphemy upon occasion of a Book lately writ by me in Defence of the Light and Divinity of Christ and not being unwilling to have such Reflections past unexamin'd These are to let thee know that I expect thy Proof if any thou hast that if it be true I may take Shame to my self in the ingenuous Acknowledgment of my Fault or else that thou dost confess thou hast unworthily traduc'd me Rickmansworth the 25th of the 10th Moneth 1672. Great is the Truth and it shall prevail I am therein a Friend to thee and all men W.P. In Answer to which he sent me the following Letter so writ and phrais'd verbatim William Penn IN Answer to a Letter thee sents me I shall acquaint thee how I came to speak of thee and to have thy Book A Friend of thine came to invite me to a Meeting of yours I asked her What moved her to invite me She said the Light in her I asked her What that Light was She told me It was Christ and that the same Light was in me and in every Man and Woman and if obeyed by me was sufficient to save me I asked her What was that that came into the Room when the Disciples were met together the Doors being shut She told me It was a Spirit I asked her How she knew it was a Spirit she told me The Light Christ in her told her so I asked her Whether I should believe the Light she said was Christ or Christ's own words as thou mayst see in the 24th of Luke verse the 38 39. Christ said A Spirit hath not Flesh and Bones as yo see me have I shewed to her how grosly the Light in her had erred therefore it could not be Christ for Christ cannot err I might be larger herein but shall forbear After this thy Friend brought me thy Book to read and when perused it returned it again and did say there was Error in it and that thou Contradicts thy self in that Book see page 21. where thou sayst That if God's Unerring Spirit only enables men to walk in his Statues and keep his Judgments to do them then since all are required to walk therein none are exempted from a sufficient measure of that Unerring Spirit in order to it And page 22. or thus If without having the Spirit none can have Prophesie and Vision and both to be and to continue in Christ's Church universally then it will naturally follow that she cannot be without that Unerring Spirit and that such as are cannot in that state be Members of the true Church then consequently thou sayst Hereticks Page 25. thou sayst The World cannot receive the Spirit of Truth Again Page 34. Jude 19 20. These be they who separate themselves sensual having not the Spirit First thou sayst no man is exempted from a sufficient measure of the Vnerring Spirit and after thou sayst Hereticks and Sensualists have it not nor the World cannot receive the Spirit this judge is Error and Contradicting of thy self See also page 71. where thou chargest God Foolishly compare Romans 9. verse the 17 18 19 20 21 22. Nay but O Man who art thou that replyest against God Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it Why hast thou made me thus hath not the Potter power over the Clay of the same Lump to make one Vessel unto Honour and another unto Dishonour I hope these few Lines although brokenly pend may prevail with thee whereby thou mayst ingeniously acknowledge thy Error and God shall have the Glory Farewel Wattford the 4th of the 11th Moneth 1672. John Morse To which I make this Reply Rickmansworth the 9th of the 11th Moneth