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A34669 Certain queries tending to accommodation and communion of Presbyterian & Congregationall churches by Mr John Cotton ... ; published by a friend to whom the author himselfe sent them over not long before his death. Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1654 (1654) Wing C6416; ESTC R37665 7,538 26

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