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A82317	Right reformation: or, The reformation of the church of the New Testament, represented in Gospell-light. In a sermon preached to the Honourable House of Commons, on Wednesday, November 25. 1646. Together with a reply to the chief contradictions of Master Love's sermon, preached the same day. All published for the good of the faithfull, at their desire. / By William Dell, minister of the Gospel, attending on his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax.	Dell, William, d. 1664.	1646 (1646)	Wing D927; Thomason E363_2; Thomason E363_3; ESTC R201227	36,729	61

done Mr. LOVE Reformation is no forcing Conscience it meddles not with Conscience it restrains Practice If a Iesuite come from Rome to kill a great Person he does it in Conscience but I meddle not with his Conscience I restrain his Practice Reply Does not your Reformation meddle with Conscience Mr. LOVE Did you speak this of your self at randome as the rest or is this the sense of your Brethren And doth your Reformation only restrain outward Practice Then to tye up mad Dogs and Beares and Tygers is your most excellent Reformation You that will not meddle with the Consciences of men it is no wonder you are making so many iron yoaks for their necks and so many snares and fetters to hamper the outward man the proper subject it seems of your Reformation And thus taking upon your selves the Reformation of the outward man you do indeed put the Magistrates work to an end And then the Assembly may serve in the place of the House of Commons and Sion-Colledge in the place of the Lord Mayor Aldermen and Common-Councel See you not yet Oh ye Powers of the World how the Ecclesiastical Powers would ●a● you out And for your Iesuite Did you ever hear me say or hint That the Magistrate should not restrain and punish outward wickednesse I wish therefore you would unriddle your selves and tell truly if you dare how far you would limit the Magistrate and inlarge your selves upon the outward man But certainly if the Magistrates power hath under it the whole outward man as indeed it hath And if Christs power have under it the whole inward man as indeed it hath what place then I pray is there left for your Ecclesiastical power when the outward and the inward man are disposed of before Sure when the Magistrate takes his own proper power to himself and Christ his own proper power to himself your power will be found to have no place either in the Worlds Kingdom or GODS but you must find out some third place for it for I will assigne you none left you prove too angry Mr. LOVE The Church of Thyatira might thinke shee had new light and yet God saith I have a few things against thee because thou sufferest the woman Jezabel c. Reply Truly Sir when God shall make you a New Creature you will be glad of New light for behold saith God I make all things New even the light as well as the creature the Old light will serve the Old man wel enough And for the Spirits reproving the Angel of the Church for suffering false and erroneous Teachers doth this prove as you undertake that the Angel of the Church had or exercised civil and secular power in the Church of Christ You erre not understanding the Scriptures for then any thing is suffered in the Church when it is not reproved and condemned by the Word the Word of truth taught and published in the Church will suffer no errour there but you understand this suffering of outward and violent power Do you not remember that I said at the beginning that the carnal Church understands the whole Scriptures carnally Mr. LOVE And now to hear such Sermons preached and Books printed if it had been at Amsterdam it had been no marveil But at London and at Westminster c. Reply Truly such a Sermon as mine might have been preached at Amsterdam or anywhere else where the Gospel hath free passage and such a Sermon as yours might have been preached at Rome or anywhere else where the precious Word of GOD is under restraint and Ecclesiastical power exalts it self both above the power of the Word and the power of the Nation Your Sermon savours as ill to the Faithfull as mine to the World Many other weak passionate inconsiderate erronious things fell from Mr. LOVE neither worth the troubling the Reader with nor my self and so they may perish and rot in their own grave if they will for they shall never receive a Resurrection from me And now at the close of all I desire the Reader to observe the difference between our Enemies and our selves in this great point of Authority and Iurisdiction which is this That We exalt Iesus Christ alone in the spiritual Church and attribute to the Magistrate his full power in the world But they exalt themselves in Christs stead in the Church and set under their feet the Magistrates power in the world And this is so evident that there is some apcration of Satan more or lesse upon him that sees it not FINIS Praesens malejudicat aetas Iudicium melius Posteritatis erit Rev. 3. 11 12. Antichrists Kingdome set up by the carnall understanding of the Scriptures The Reformation of the Church understood carnally The imperfection of the worship of the old Law No outward law can make men perfect as pertaining to the conscience and so the Gospel abolishes all such outward laws imposed on conscience as well now as heretofore Doctr. Gospel Reformation 1. What it is Christ Judgement Christ Righteousnesse Gospel Reformation is 1. Spirituall 2. Inward Matth. 23. 25. 3. Thorows Isa. 1. 25. 4. Powerfull 5. Constant Christ the Reformer Note 1. The care of the Church given to Christ 2. Christ takes it 1. Out of obedience 2 Love 3 The work of Reformation only sutable to Christ 4. Christ only able for the work of Reformation 1. The Word The Gospell Reformes 1. Works faith 2. Communicates Righteousnesse 3. Shews Christ 2. The second meanes Christ useth to reform the Chureh withall 2. All errours Object Answ 1. Unbeseeming the Gospel Though the truth carry its evidence in it self and the Word of God is greater then all the testimonies of men yet for their sakes that are weak I have inserted the judgments of some godly men as I have accidentally met with them who have spoken of these things in the spirit that so you may see the truth though it hath but few followers yet it hath some Melancton on Psal. 110. v. 3. habebis populum non coactum gladio sed verbo collectum laeto corde amplectentem evangelium te sponte celebrantem Discernit igitur ecclesiam ab imperiis mundanis externam servitutem a cultibus cordis accensis voce evangelii a spiritu sancto Ag. Religio cogi non vult doceri expetit Immunitate non stabilitur sed evertitur Polan This Charls to whom Leo gave the title of the most Christian King was a great conquerer and overcame many Nations with the sword and as the Turk compelleth to his faith so he compelled with Violence to the faith of Christ but alas the true faith of Christ whereunto the Holy Ghost draws mens hearts through preaching the Word of truth he knew not c. Tindal Fides sua sponte non coacte agere vult Luth. Christus non voluit●vi igne cogere homines ad fidem Luth. Haereticos comburere est contra voluntatem spiritus Luth. He hath given in the Church the sword of the spirit to inforce with and not the sword of the Magistrate Prorsus diversa ratio est regni Christi mundi Mundani Magistratus quae volunt imperant subditi coguntur obedientiam praestare At in Regno Christi quod non est mundana aut pontificia Dominatio sed spirituale regnum nihil simile geritur sed quivis alterius judex quilibet alteri subjectus est At tyranni animicidae illi nihil morantes vocem Christi regnum meum non est de hoc mundo ex Ecclesia Politiam civilem seu potius pontificium imperium constituerunt ●uth Quare ipsam sedem Bestiae nego nihil moratus sit ne bonus vel malus qui in ea se det Sedes inquam quae sit super omnes sedes nulla est in Ecclesia super terram jure divino sed omnes sunt aequales quia una fides unum baptisma unus Christus c. Luth. Where there is no worldly superiority over one another there is no worldly compulsion of one another In the naturall body there is no convocation of many members to govern one or of more members to govern fewer but the foot performes its office without being under the authoritative power of the hands yea each member performs its office aright without being in subordination to another by the guidance of that head to which it is united and of that Spirit that dwels in it each member having an immediate influence of the head upon it self though it may outwardly seem to be further from the head then another member And thus it is in Beleevers and Congregations Quid autem vi coactione opus vobis est qui hujusmodi certamen decertatis in quo cogi nemo debet Ulrichus ab Hutten to the Councel of Priests What need you the power of the Magistrate to defend the truth who have so many Scriptures to defend it the truth of God being to be defended by the Word of God and not by the power of men Idem I could produce many more Testimonies but these are sufficient to shew that I am not alon in this point against Forcible reformation but have the Armory of David to defend it withall on which there hange a thousand bucklers all shields of mighty men 2. Unsutable to Christs Kingdome Isa. 11. 9. Isai. 60. 18. 3. A willing people Psal. 110. 3. 3. Humane institution is set up 4. It brings men into blind obedience 5. It makes Hypocrites 6. Causes Disturbances 7. Christ useth no such outward force 2. Neither commanded his Apostles 1. Object 2. Object Answ 3 b ject Answ 4. Object Answ 5. Obj. Answ 6. Obj. Ans. 7. Obj. Answ Psal. 72. 12. 2. Gods Kingdome

blind by this he kils and quickens by this he saves and damns and all that ever he doth in this Kingdom he doth by his word and without this he doth nothing of all that he doth Christ doth all in his Kingdom by the word only but Antichrist doth all things without the word even by the Decrees and Constitutions of men Now as Christ doth all other things in the Church by the word so he reforms too Now are yee clean through the word that I have spoken to you All the powers in the world cannot reform the Church as the word of God can do for this is quick and powerfull and sharper then a two-edged sword piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit and of the joints and marrow and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart and doth change and renew and reform all and therefore Christ when hee comes to reform the Church comes with no worldly power or weapons but onely with the word in his mouth yea though God set him King upon his holy hill of Sion yet he reforms not by outward power but by preaching saying I will publish the decree whereof the Lord hath said unto me Thou art my Son this day have I begotten thee And again The Spirit of the Lord is upon mee for he hath annointed mee to preach the Gospel And again The Redeemer shall come to Sion and then follows the Covenant of God with the Redeemer My word shall never depart out of thy mouth Isa. 59. 10. and in Psalm 45. the Church saith by the Spirit to Christ Ride on prosperously on the word of truth meeknesse and righteousnesse which is the word of the Gospel And so Christ when the time of Reformation was come went up and down preaching the word And thus he brought to passe the glorious Reformation of the New Testament by preaching the Gospel of the Kingdome and nothing else And when hee was to leave the world hee sent his Disciples to carry on the work of Reformation as hee himselfe had begun it as hee saith As my Father sent mee so send I you not with the power of the world but with the power of the word and so hee bid them goe teach all Nations and preach the Gospel to every creature and by teaching and preaching to the world to reforme the world and so accordingly they did Mark 16. ver. 20. They went forth and preached every where the Lord working with them So that Christ sent them not forth with any power of swords or guns or prisons to reforme the world or with any power of States or Armies but sent forth poor illiterate mechanick men and only armed them with the power of the word and behold what wonders they wrought by that power alone They turned the world upside downe they changed the manners customes religion worship lives and natures of men they carried all oppositions and difficulties before them they won many in most Kingdoms unto Christ and brought them into willing subjection and obedience to him and all this they did I say not with any earthly or secular power but by the ministery of the Gospel alone Christs great and onely Instrument for the conquering subduing and reforming of the Nations And so the power appeared to be Gods onely and not the creatures And thus you see how the word is one means Christ useth for Reformation And this word only works a right Reformation For this reforms truly and indeed all other power reforms but in appearance So that there is no true reformation of any thing but what is wrought by the word but what ever evill is reformed and not by the power of the word it is not truly reformed it is onely reformed in the flesh and not in the spirit it is only suspended in the outward operation of it but the seed and nature of it still remaines in the heart to grow up and work again as opportunity serves And therefore what-ever evill or corruption is reformed in thee see it be reformed by the power of the word if the word hath killed it in thee it is killed indeed if not it is alive in thee though it seeme to be dead The outward power of the world may set up an image of Reformation but it is the word onely can work true Reformation And therefore let us learn to rely on the word for the Reformation of the Church For this is much for the honour of the word which God hath magnified above all his Name when wee can neglect the power of the world and leave the whole work of Reformation to the power working and efficacy of the word alone which is almighty and able to bring off the heart from all things to God As on the contrary it is a great dishonor to God and his word when men dare not relie on the word alone to reform the Church though it be stronger then men and Angels and all the creatures but will needs be calling in the power of the world and rest and rely on that for this work as if the power of the word were not sufficient But let such men know that if the power of the word will not reform men all the power of the world will never do it And therefore well said Luther Praedicare annuntiare scribers volo neminem autem vi adigam I will preach and teach and write but I will constrain no body Oh therefore that our civill and Ecclesiasticall powers would so much honour Christs Word as to trust the reformation of his Kingdome with it and that as it is sufficient to reform the Church so you would be pleased to think it sufficient and thus shall you give Christ and his Word due honour as well as declare your own faith And if you would commit this work to the power of the word to which onely it belongs you should soon see what the Word would do There is no such glorious sight under heaven as to see the Word in the spirit and power of it come in to an unreformed world and to observe the changes and alterations it makes there And thus you see that one means that Christ useth for the Reformation of his Church is the Word But here I must further declare to you that this Word by which Christ reforms the Church is not the Word of the Law for the Law made nothing perfect but the Word of the Gospel This this is the onely Word that works Reformation For first 1. This Word works faith and therefore it is called the word of faith because faith comes by hearing of this Word Rom. 10. ver. 8. and v. 17. Now as the Word workes faith so faith apprehends the Word even that Word that was with God and was God this living and eternall Word dwels in our heart by faith as the Apostle saith That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith And this Word dwelling in us by faith changeth us into its