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A10389 A revievv of the Councell of Trent VVherein are contained the severall nullities of it: with the many grievances and prejudices done by it to Christian kings and princes: as also to all catholique churches in the world; and more particularly to the Gallicane Church. First writ in French by a learned Roman-Catholique. Now translated into English by G.L.; Revision du Concile de Trente. English Ranchin, Guillaume, b. 1560.; Langbaine, Gerard, 1609-1658. 1638 (1638) STC 20667; ESTC S116164 572,475 418

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