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A03829 A diduction of the true and catholik meaning of our Sauiour his words this is my bodie, in the institution of his laste Supper through the ages of the Church from Christ to our owne daies. Whereunto is annexed a reply to M. William Reynolds in defence of M. Robert Bruce his arguments in this subiect: and displaying of M. Iohn Hammiltons ignorance and contradictions: with sundry absurdities following vpon the Romane interpretation of these words. Compiled by Alexander Hume Maister of the high schoole of Edinburgh. Hume, Alexander, schoolmaster. 1602 (1602) STC 13945; ESTC S118169 49,590 134

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neuer was Of the wicked Paull saith hee that eateth this breade and drinketh of this cuppe vnworthely eateth and drinketh his owne damnation He saith not hee that eateth the bodie drinketh the bloode of Christ vnworthely And heare I dare lay my heade which I will not giue for the popes heade and his triple Crowne too that all the Schooles in Roome and Remes shall neuer proue be the Scripture that the body of Christ can be eaten vnworthely Howe oft doth hee promise himselfe in Iohn eternall life sumtime to him that eateth his flesh sometime to him that beleeueth Whereof it is manifest that none eateth his flesh vnworthely seeing that all that eateth of it shal haue eternal life This besides the place quoted be Lumbard that worthy Fatder August in Iohn tract 26. striketh dead Sacramentum quibusdam ad vitam quibusdam ad mortem sumitur res vero cu●us est sacramentum omnibus ad vitani nulli ad mortem That is some receaueth the sacrament to life some to death but that whereof it is the sacrament bringeth life to all death to none Seuenthly in the fore cited wordes of Paull He that ●ateth of this breade and drinketh of this cuppe vnworthelie ea●eth and drinketh his owne damnation We find this argument The elements in the Sacraments remaine that which Paull be the spirit of God doth call chem But Paull be the spirit of god doth cal them bread and wine and that after the consecration or else they coulde not bee receaued vnworthely nor drawe on so heauy a iudgment as to be guilty of the Lords body and blood Ergo the elements in the Sacrament remaineth breade and wine and are not changed into the naturall bodie and blood of Christ. Heare the base shift that the Apostle vseth the names which they seeme for the names which they are will not houlde for that were to feede the errour of the fenses and to brangle the foundation of faith which thing bee farre from this Apostle who trau●lled so faithfullye and discreit ye 〈◊〉 Apostleshipe Heare thou hast seauen argumentes gentle reader th● weakest of all which if wee hade no more were sufficient to beare out this cause with greater probability then any that our aduersarie hath to the contrary The firste thirde fifth and sixth concludeth the negatiue that the breade and wine are not the reale and essentiall bodie of our Sauiour The second proueth that they are types an● figures of Christ exhibited for the ransome of our sinnes The fourth and seuenth that the bread and wine remaineth in their owne natures and are not transubstant●a●ted as the Church of Rome laboureth ●o earnestly to bring the worlde to beleeue And so of these seuen arguments four erefutes the aduersarie and three confirmes the truthe Nowe that the Church maintained this truth as she receaued it from Christ and his Apostles for more then fiue hundreth years after Christ I wil proue bee the the testimonies of the fathers who liued and taught the Church in that age And heare I woulde praye the reader not to mistake me I alleadge not these testimonies to confirme this truth as not sufficiently proued already or to ad more authoritie to the testimonies of the scripture for we acknowledge the authoritie of the word of God to haue that Maiestie that if all the world did say against it yet it remained the certaine trueth of the eternall God who is trueth it selfe and can not lye And wee greatly lament the miserie of this age wherein there is so many foūd and of them some who knew the truth to oppose them selues against so manifest a light But seeing bee the peruersnes of man and malice of the deuill it is controuerted in my simple iudgment the consent of the Church is no small inducement to indifferentmen and a great slap in the aduersaries saill who beares the world in hand that they saill before the wind and that all the fathers of the primitiue Church doth rowe in their bardge Which confident assertion how false it is I hope with gods good help to make it manifest and to proue be their owne wordes that none of the fathers did euer know that transubstantiated monster which was whelped in the counsell of Rome fiue hundreth yeares after them and after that fostered in the bosome of that Church To beginne Tertullian who liued in the yeare two hundreth saieth of the eating of Christ in the Sacrament Auditu deuo●andus est intellectu ruminandus et fide digerendus That is bee hearing he is to bee eaten be vnderstanding chawed bee faith digested Chrysostom teacheth the same Magnus i●●e panis qui replet mentem non ventrem This is the great bread which filles the minde and not the bellie And August Quid dentem et ventrem para● crede et manducasti Why preparest thou thy teethe and thy bellie beleeue and thou hast eaten Cyprian saith esus eius carnis e●t quadam aviditas et desiderium manendi in Christo Quod est esus carni hoc est fides animae non dentes ad mordendum acuimus sed fide sinceva sanctum panem edinms The eating of his flesh is a certaine gredinesse and desire to dwell in Christe As eating is to the flesh so is faith to the soule We sharpe not our teethe to bruse but faith to eate that sacred bread Basilius saith est quoddam spirituale os interni hominis quo pascitur recipiens panem vitae qui descendit do caelo There is a spirituall mouth of the inward man bee which he is fed who eates the bread that came downe from heauen Be the testimonies of which fathers it is most cleere and apparant that the Church then tooke the eating of Christs flesh and drinking his bloode to bee a spirituall action of the soule not a bodily action of the mouth that it is eaten be faith not with the teethe and digested into the minde not into the bellie and foull●stomache of the receauer Of sacraments in generall August saith in sacramentis videndum est non quid sint sed quid ostendant signa enim rerum sunt aliud existentia aliud significantia in sacraments it is to bee noted not what they are but what they meane so they are signes of thinges signyfiing one thinge and in deede an other Of figures that they are vsuall in the scripture and that the name of the figure is set for the thinge figured and contrariwayes of the thinge for the figure he saith Solet res quae significat eius rei quam significat nomine appellari Hinc dictum erat petra erat Christus Non dixit petra significat Christum sed tanquam boc esset quod●vtique per substantiam non erat The thinge which signifieth vseth to be called many times be the name that it signifieth Hereupon it is saide that Christ was the rocke he saide not that the rock signifieth Christe but as if
A DIDVCTION OF THE TRVE AND CATHOLIK meaning of our Sauiour his words this is my bcdie in the institution of his laste Supper through the ages of the Church from Christ to our owne dayes Whereunto is annexed a reply to M. William Reynolds in defence of M. Robert Bruce his arguments in this subiect and displaying of M. Iohn Hammiltons ignorance and contradictions with sundry absurdities following vpon the Romane interpretation of these words Compiled by ALEXANDER HVME Maister of the high Schoole of Edinburgh EDINBVRGH Printed by Robert Waldegraue Printer to the Kings Maiestie 1602 Cum Privilegio Regi● TO THE RIGHT Honorable the L. Prouest Bayless and counsel of Edinburgh ALEXANDER HVM● wisheth true wisdome and felicitie THE Spouse of Christ right Honorable who lyeth in his bosome heareth his voice that is his word keepeth his sacraments in the integritie which she receaued This glorious title of his wel-beloued the Church of Rome doeth falslie arrogat For she hath preferred her owne decrees to his word to the one sacrament she hath ●dded oile spittle salt and creame From the other she hath taken away the blessed cup of his precious blood she hath set vp in his chaire the man of sinne she hath giuen his office of intercession to Saints and Angels She hath made his house a denne of theeues and a market of merites masses pardones and other pelfe selling heauen and hell for siluer and golde Whereby it is cleare to all men that hath not drunke of the wine of her fornication that she is not the spouse of Christ but the skarlet whore that sitteth on the beaste with seauen heades and hath poysoned the nationes of the earth with her abhominationes It is the guise of a whore to disgrace the lawful spouse to whose bedde shee presumeth what lyeth in her To this end this strumpet hath per secu●ed the welbeloued of our Sauiour euer since she gote vppe her heade And nowe in our dayes slandereth her with the opprobrie of a whore neuer harde of before the dayes of Luther To meete with this contumelie I haue contriued this little treatise the laste winter at such houres as I coulde borrowe of my bed because my calling holdes me occupied at other times In it I haue taken for one of the surest notes of the true spouse the sacrament wherein he communicateth him self and all his graces with her Firste I gather be seauen argumentes drawen out of the well of truth the true meaning of the wordes of the institution this is my bodie containing the right maner howe Christ feedeth vs with his precious body and bloode Secondly I proue be their owne testimonies that the fathers of the primitiue Church receaued that sense from Christ and his Apostles and kept it as they receaued it 500 yeares after the firste institution Thirdlye I proue the occasion of the corruption and how it sprang and grew with the truth like darnell amongst wheate without offence for the space of 300 yeares Fourthly I shewe howe in the yeare 800. it beganne to ●appe the truth and that some grewe either so impudent or ignorant as to denye a figure and maintaine a literall sense in the wordes of the institution Fifthly that aboute that same time Ioannes Scotus in the time of Charles the greate Bertrame at the commandement of Carolus Calvus opossed them selues refuted that erroure whereby it maye seeme that that noble Prince was of the same mind Sixthly that the better sid cōtinued long a partie that these books were not cōdemned ●il the counsel of Lateran 250. yeares after they were published Seuenthlye that this counsell condemned Berengarius vnhard for an hereticke and the truth which hee mentained of heresie Lastly I followe the storie that the Church of Rome euer since persecuting the truth with fire and fagot could neuer get it extinguished That it had alwayes assertoures and many that sealed it with their bloode In which discourse my intent is to proue that the church was planted in the truth be Christ his Apost not be Caluin or Zuinglius as our aduersaries beareth the ignorante in hand That there hath beene alwayes since a Church professing it That the Church of Rome euer since the Counsell of Lateran aboute 550 yeares hath persecuted her That this little barke howbeit driuen into manye obscure harboures yet all the stormes which the deuill and antichriste coulde raise hath not sunke her This little treatise I haue thought good to dedicate to your Wisdomes because I and al my trauelles am consecrated to your common wealth Accept my good will and protect the truthe with your authoritie The Lorde giue you wisdome to discerne and heartes to maintaine his cause Fare-well in him who is the well of well-fare Edinburgh the 18. of Febr. Anno. 1602. TO M. IOHN Hammilton his olde Regent grace and right iudgment HEaring great report of a booke which you had set out I met with your treatise intituled of the Lordes Supper printed anno 1581. supposing that your comming home had stirred the mindes of men to read and praise the thing which had lyen long dispised I red also with hope to find the arguments that induced you to turne your coate But finding no thing which you might not and in all appearance did not knowe before your peruersion I pitied your miserable case who hath a hearte at one time capable of contrarie persuasions of your saluation and was woe how be it it be worthie no answere that our men had let it lye 19. yeares without an answere because it seemed that that silence had made you confident and your sectaries hope that it was vnanswerable Wherefore thinking it to be the worke so much spoken of I resolued to doe it the honoure that no man thought it worthie and set my selfe to answere it because you were some time my Regent After that I had answered the firste cap. and a good parte of the seconde there came to my handes your seconde worke Then I perceaued my erroure stayed my hande to read it also Hauing red it I rewed al For argumēts in both I founde none indeede and few in show To flite which is the greatest parte of both these bookes I thought it meeter for a scoulde then a scholar And the last I founde contrarie to the firste not onely confuting but condemning of heresie the verie inscription thereof Your greatest gift for anye thing that I can see is in nik-naming and beleing the Saints of God That gift we can wel be contented to leaue to papistes because such graces are more acceptable to your pope then our God Some of you hath purchased Bishoprickes and some Cardinalshipes be that kind of eloqūece But wee are assured that he whome wee serue neuer rewardeth that arte with better hyre then hell Yet I wonder at your impudencie or rather stupiditie to hope that naked lies can win credite euen where the men of whom you speake are most hated Can any man
beleeu● that if GOD had showen so notable a iudgment on Iohn Knoxe in the pulpite and presence of such a frequent assemblie as vseth to be in the Church of Edinburgh the people woulde not haue onely abhorred his doctrine but stoned him selfe out of the towne Or can anye man that hath a mans harte that is reason and vnderstanding beleeue that if Iohn Caluin had vsed that manifest iuglarie which ye are not ashamed to publish in the face of the Sun in the congregation at Geneua that that people who found the moyen in a priuate grudge to banish him their towne for certaine yeares would not on such a notorious cause as that haue either stoned him in the streetes or expelled him at the leaste with shame for euer But this is a note of gods iudgment that hee hath so besotted your senses that you haue not the wittes to caste a probable collour vpon your lyes This was an other cause that made me leaue my purpose to confute your booke For if I had gone fordward I sawe that I was to meete with many slanders which was not worth the hearing nor reading and needed no other to confute them then the mouth that toulde them if the hearer had but halfe a nose to smell alye as whote as a foxe Yet hauing spent many dayes and nights in gathering materialles to that worke I resolued not to lose them but with some trauell contriued them in this forme which you see hoping that the power of reason and truth might not onelie staye such from that erroure as your sectaries had made to doubt but also make you and them to doubt of that which you teach so confidently if you would read as aduisedly as you haue bequeathed your selfe vnconsideratlye to that abhomination And heare I charge you in the bowels and mercies of lesus Christ as you will answere in the great daye of the Lorde if you doubt indeed which is not likely for anye matter that wee can see in your bookes to haue turned you or left the truth for any particular to open your eyes againe to the light and to returne to the grace from which you are fallen I haue heere deduced the truth of this question whereon standeth the foundatiō of the Romane religion from Christ to our owne times I haue taken this paines partlie for our people partelye for you to whome I wishe the good that a Scholar should to his maister And therefore I praye you as you loue to liue for euer to leaue the way of death euerlasting Otherwayes in the court of conscience where truth will be reuealed the popes indulgence will doe no good I must beare witnesse of your wilfulnes and proude contempt of the reuealed truthe The Lorde giue you a harte to loue him better then men Yours if you be Christes ALEXANDER HVME The diduction from the fountaine OVR Lord and maister Iesus Christe that night that hee was betrayed into the hands of the highe preiste to continue in his Church a solemne remembrance of his blessed passion which hee was shortly to suffer instituted at his last supper with his disciples after that hee had finished the lawe of the pascall Lamb in place there of a newe Sacrament in the Elementes of Breade and Wine In this and with this after an vnspeakable maner be a secret diuine efficacie hee deliuered also to their Faith his precious Bodie and Blood to vnite them and al that should succeede them to be bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh to nourish their soules vnto eternal life In this mystery there is such a secret cōiunctiō betweene the elements and his precious flesh that in al ages it hath exercised the hearts and minds of men in the deep contemplation thereof some to life and some to eternall death and condemnation For seeing the glorie and excellencie of our omnipotent God consisteth in the highest perfection of mercie and iustice his infinite wisdome hath tempered his worde and Sacraments to minister matter to both Therefore betweene his elect whose heartes he illuminates with the light of his spirite and those whome he hath left to the iudgment of their owne fenses and illusions of errour there hath risen out of this cloude greate stormes to exercise his Church that it might not lye sleeping in the sonne of securitie It is fortie yeares and mor● since the Lord● beganne to sowe in this countrie being then ouerwhelmed in the mists of ignorance the seede of his eternall trueth Now seeing our vnthankfulnes hee suffereth the enemie to repaire home againe and to sowe darnel in his haruest He is busie and we are secure Wherefore to meete his practises and to arme the simple against his sophismes I haue chosen this argument of reall presence as of greatest importance to confute all papistrie For if the naturall bodie of our Sauiour is not in the sacrament as they call it of the altare they haue no sacrifice for the quick and deade and wanting that their market of masses this fiue hundreth yeares hath beene a faire of false wares In this disputation I will vse no rethoricall colloures to fill mens eare● with wordes but shortely will ayme my arguments to the poynt hoping that in all sounde iudgementes weight of reason will be more effectuall then the ratling sound of emptie words I will deduce the truthe of this poynte out of the well of truth and then will proue the Church to haue receiued it from Christ and his Apostles and notwithstanding the craft and crueltie of the enemie to haue kept it sincere and pure to our times Lord shew to me the the light of thy truth put weight in my wordes and force in may arguments to beare thy truth through the middest of thy enemies and to confounde the wisdome of the wise Our Lord and Sauiour at the institution of this Sacrament tooke breade and after that hee had giuen thankes broke it and gaue it to his disciples saying Thus is my body which is broken for you this doe ye in remembrance of me The wordes this is my bodye the Church of Roome taketh literallie ●ffirming that the breade is turned into the very natural reall body of christ hauing no nature thereof but collour sauour taste and other inseparable accidents Wee on the other side take them figuratiuelie denying that there is anye change of the substance but that the bread remaineth bread representing to our soules the bodie of Christ to feede our soules to eternall life As for the wordes them selues without other inforcements they are capable of both senses we grant that if both scripture nature did not denye they maye be taken literallie Againe that they may be taken figuratiuely if the peruersnesse of the aduersarie will not grant other scripturs in the same forme will easilie conuince He that saide of the bread This is my bodie saide likewise of him selfe I am a vine I am a doore and Paull saith the rock vvas Christe But
this tyme and before this monster grew to a head the Lord raised vp one Ioannes Scotus besome tearmed Erigena paedagoge to the worthye Emperour Charles the great a man of great learning and well red both in Greeke and Latine This man wrote a learned work against this erroure and in the beginning of it began to descry the firste conception and whole genealogie of this mōster Soone efter followed an other called Bertram a preist or as some thinkes a monke of Corsbie in saxonie where Pascasius also was bred This booke is yet extant wherein hee learnedly cites the fathers mightely vrges the scriptures and providently preuents the whole matter of transubstantiation This worke and the author also Tritemius highlie commendeth both for life and learning It escaped I can not tell bee what diuine prouidence the fyrie purgatorie of verselles in the flames whereof the booke of Ioannes Scotus was quite consumed Yet there was an other prouided for it be the Doctors of Louan be the counsel of Trent called index expurgatorius not to consume all for that would haue beene a discredit to the holye Church but to raze such sentences as were vncureable and where it woulde serue the turne to charge no thing but the affirmatiue into the negatiue substance into accidents temporall into eternall c. That is to saye white into blacke lighte into darkenes and truth into a lye These two book● were then published not in a nooke but in the open light and face of the world the one of thē at the cōman dement of the Emperour Carolus magnus They continued from aboute the yeare eight hundreth to the troubles of Berengarius which fell out aboute the one thousand and fiftie yeare without condemnation or accusation of heresie which wa● an argument that the weede had not then ouerrshadowed the corne Bertram maketh mention of 〈◊〉 eate contention the● in Fra●●e aboute this matter which arg●●s that the right side was yet a partie They who had hard the reuerent Beda or his schollers for the moste parte swaied that waye Heere Maister William Reinolds in his booke against Maister Robert Bruce seemeth to leaue his reader to thinke that these two men are either theirs or neuters They wrote darkely saith hee of the truth of this Sacrament and so doubtfully that the Zuingliās vse their authoritie against the Catholickes and the Lutherans againste the Zuinglians In which wordes hee woulde leade the reader to thinke that Scotus and Bertram wrote for transubstantiation but in such obscure tearmes as might bee drawne to ●ny sense so lothe are they that wee haue the shadowe of any antiquitie before the dayes of Berengari●s ●t that time because it is written in the Reuelation that after a thousand years the deuill should be let loose he is content to grant that opposition was made to the veritie of Christs bodie in the sacrament and cites for witnes to blot it no●withstanding with a note of newne● 〈◊〉 Foxe whome hee tearmeth the Martyr●●ker But to let him goe with his tantes for we must beare worse then that if neede bee if that prophesie be to be referred iuste to that tyme let them see if it maye not better be vnderstoode of the Church of Rome Which at that time began to persue their brethren with fire and fagott and made Lawes to compell all men to beleeue vnder paine of both deaths temporall and eternall that a rounde wafer with the picture of Christe in it was the very essential body of Christ that was borne of the virgine Marye This was more like to haue beene the loose deuill and the lying deuil to which euer since hath raged in these partes then that of Berengarius which was soone bounde againe and vnder paine of burning compelled to fing tongue thou lyed If that was the deuill who is daylye rosted in the eternall flames of the f●re of hell hee was fell fleed for a fire that woulde haue beene done in one day But if these books were not plaine with vs I would aske of Maister Reinolds why the pope burned the one the index expurgatorius mangled the other But wee are much beholden to him how-be-it he denieth vs this antiquitie yet hee would faine haue it beleeued that our doctrine was condemned of heresie in the very daies of the Apostles To proue this he quotes Ignatius out of Theodoret who saith that some acknowledged not the eucharist to be the flesh of christ that suffered for our sinnes These some heritiekes he woulde haue taken to bee men of our minde that in those times denyed transubstantiation of the bodie of Christ. Yet if he had marked with advised iudgmente the drift of Theodoret for out of him the meaning of Ignatius is to be gathered hee might haue seene that Ignatius spake of such heritickes as Theodoret alledges him againste or else the allegation of Ignatius had been impertinent But Theodoret alleadged him against Valentinian Marcion and Manes who denied Christ to haue suffered reall paines in a reall bodie Ergo Ignatius spake of heritikes who denied Christ to haue suffered reall paines in a reall bodie For as odious as wee are in Maister Reinolds eies it will be as hard for him to conuince vs of this erroure as to make the place of Ignatius other wayes to bee spoken of vs. This argumeut of Ignatius was common amongst the fathers againste that heresie that if Christ had not a true body and suffered not reall paines for our sinnes the sacrament could not bee a figure thereof As Tertulliā reasons before because mē vse not to make figures of phantasies And heare it will be harde for Maister Reinolds to clenge his hart and hands of falshoode and forgerie for alledging Ignatius out of Theodoret against that which Theodoret plainely frequently teacheth that the sacraments are Tou pathous typoi figures of the passion and symbola cai typo● ou tees theoteetos allatou s●matos cai haimatos Signes and figures not of his deitie but of his bodie bloode But to returne to our storie Wee reade after Bertram aboute the yeare nine hundreth and fiftie that their rose ● greate controuersie likewise in Ingland about this question which is a proofe that a hundreth and fiftie yeares after the debate in France which Bertram maketh mention of that the right side was then also a partie and that the better part For transubstantiatiō for now that tearme was clecked stoode Odo Archbishope of Canterburie garded with a greate armie of rascall ignorante preists who woone their dayly drink by a disceatfull market of breade for flesh On the other side was the rest better parte of the Clergie The Bishope was so armed with multitude that maior pars picit meli●rem the greater part conquered the better with arguments which in those times were growen to a greate hea● 〈◊〉 vniuersalitie and false miracles A hundreth yeares after that aboute the yeare one thousand and fifty Berengarius deacon of
might stand very well with demonstration of the breade hee saith it demonstrateth a thing which he calleth Indi●duum vagum and to expounde him selfe to the capacitie of the simple he calleth it also Indiuiduum in genere or Indiuiduum entis Induiduum insignitum Indiuiduum Iudiuidui vnum substantia and 〈◊〉 entis Which deepe diuinitie I can not expounde to men that hath noe other but their mother tongue except Indiuiduum vagum maye bee some wandring vagabounde In this matter there is much more diversitie of opinions which woulde bee tedious to reckon vppe particularlye Some saieth that the bodie of Christe is rent with the teethe and some saith no. Some saith that the accidents of bread wyne doth nourish some saith no. Some saith that as soone as it commeth to the toothe the bodye of Christ returneth bee a miracle and some saie no. Some saie that Christe is in the Sacrament in quantitie and qualitie as hee was on the Crosse and some saie no. Some sa●e that hee did consecrate be a diuine power and some saie no. Some saie that he consecrated bee his blessing and some saie no. And some saie that he did consecrate bee vertue of the ●iue wordes hoc est enim corpius meum and some saie no. To make them siue they added enim of their owne because the poet testifieth that numero deus impare gaudet God delighteeth in an odde number how-be-it the poet ment three not fiue But to goe fordwarde Some saieth that the naturall bodie of Christ is in the Sacramente naturallie and some saie no. Some saith that the substance of the breade is turned into the substance of Christes bodie and some s●●e no but that it vanisheth to no-thing and that the bodye of Christ● succedeth into the place of it There are manye moe doubts which I would aske of the Maisters of this theologie to bee resolued me be cleare 〈◊〉 timonie of scripture First whether the breade be changed materia et forma or materia onely Secondlye if the forme bee changed whet●er it bee changed into the forme of Christs bodie Thirdelye if the essentiall forme of breade be that which maketh bread to be called breade and distinguisheth it from flowre and wheate whether colour ●auer taste substance friabilitie and vertue to feede be not that essentiall forme Fourthly whether the breade be turned into whole Christ God and man Fifthly if into his manhoode onelye whether that bee not a separation of hi● vnseparable natures Sixthly if into his diuinitie also how a peece of corruptible bread can turne into the incorruptible and eternall essence of the deitie Seuently if the deitie assumes the humane bodie made of breade as hee did the fleshe borne of the Virgine Marye whether there be now as many Christs as hath beene hostes consecrated since the firste which Christe did con●ecra●e him selfe Eightly if not what can become of them being all immortall and incorruptible Nynthelye whether they haue vniuersall knowledge of all thinges paste present and to come Tenthlye whether Gregorie the seuenth that sweete birde did sinne asking of it certaine secret matters and casting it into the fire because it would not answere I coulde here moue many moe questions As whether the bodie of Christe in the wafer cake be formatum or informe If it bee formatum whether it hath the forme of a liuing or deade bodie If of a liuing bodie whether it liueth vitam vigetatiuam without which sensitiua and rationalis can not continue vn fed without a miracle With manye moe such strange conclusiones vpon this strange assertion But these I will superseede till I haue gotten a resolute answere to the former ten out of the vndoubted truthe of God These strange concequences made Cuthbart Tonstall Bishope of Durham a man in his time amongst the learnedest and wisest to thinke and write de modo quo id fieret meaning the bodye of Christ in the Sacramente fortasse satius esse curiosum quenque suaerel●nquere coniectur●● sicut liberum suit ante conciliū later anum In which words thou mayest first note that before the counsell of La●eran no man was troubled for denying the reall presence and secondly that this wise man how-be-it hee dare not condemne the Church of Rome yet he thinketh it had beene better to haue left it free as it was before then to haue bounde men to vnnaturall inconueniences Scotus subtilis one of the greatest auctoures of the Romane faith plainelie attributeth this head of their beleefe to the Church of Rome and proueth it because the scriptures may haue an easier and in all appearance a truer meaning De sacramentis saith he tenendum sicut tenst sancta Romana ecclesia Na● verba scriptura possent saluari secundum sensum faciliorem et veriorem secundum appareatiam Wee muste houlde the Sacramentes as the holye Church of Rome doth houlde For the scriptures maye bee salued in an easier sense and truer be appearance Fisher Bishope of Rochester one of their Martyres confesseth the like that the scriptures hath nullum verbum quo probctur in missa veram fieri carnis sanguinis pr●sentiam Not one word to proue the true presence of Christes flesh and bloode in the Masse Thus thou seest gentle reader that these men who were of greater account in he Romane Church then M. Iohn Ham or M. Gilbert Broune or any of our apostat doctours who neither for 〈◊〉 nor letters are worthye to beare their bookes confesseth that which I haue beene all this while prouing that the Romane Church neuer receaued this truth out of the scriptures And therefore seeing this poynte is so cleare that the enemies of it confesseth it I woulde request all men that hath a care to liue in Christ be Christ to avoide the poysoned doctrine of these masters who can not denye but that the soule of their religion that is the sacrifice of their Masse is a deuise of mans braine without witnesse or warrant from the authore of life and truthe Lorde opon our eyes to see the truthe and 〈◊〉 leeue it to professe it and obeye its to loue it and liue bee it through Iesus Christ our Lord and Sauiou● Amen Page 44. In imitio carrige Summoned him againe to Rome to a counsell of 114. Bishopes held in Basilit a Constantiniana ●●ntra maxim lib. 3. cap 2● 2. Cor 10 3. ●● Ioan 〈◊〉 26. Ma●● 14 25. lib. 4. dist ● in A. 1 Cor 11 27 Ion 6. 33 35 40 47 50 51. 56 58 1 Cor 11. 17. De resur ●arnis Di variis locis in math ho● 9 in Ioan tract 25. De ●oena dom●ni Psal. 33. contrae maximinum Super levite 56 quest Ioa● 〈◊〉 36. Psal 3● contra ad ●mant 12 Mat hom ●3 Dial 1 ●pitaph f●atris lib. 3 cap 16 lib 4 ●omil 7 in le●it De consee ●ift ● Ioan hom 27. Ioan lib 4 cap 14 ad ioui●i anum lib 2 lib 1 epie●● 6 lib 2 epi●● 3 lib 5 cap 1 mat cap. 15 lib. 9. cap 22 Ioan lib 11 cap 3 De peccat in spirit sanctum in paedagogio lib 2 cap. contr● nestor anathe● 11 Lue lib 10 lo●n tract 2● Dial 2 c●p 24 Dial 1 cap ● De iis qui initiantur contra eu●icha● lib 4. cap 34 Dial3 cap 19 Dial 3 cap 15 Dial● cap 8 M Iohn hammiltō con Ioan 6 De res●● carnis Ioan ● 53 〈◊〉 48 〈◊〉 63 vers 53 vers 47 vers 33. cap ● sect ● Exod 24 8 〈◊〉 22 2● M Iohn hammiltō of the L. supper M Iohn hammil●on ibid. ad 〈◊〉 epist ● in Genel ●omil 24 In Psal 97 De conse● distinct 2 quid sit In Act hom 2● De conse dist●nct 2 quia pass De sace●● lib 3. De virt●e● vit ●om 5. In Ioan lib 2 cap 42 Articul 10 sect 2 Cap 1 In octa●● epiphan Cap ● sect 5 De iis qui untiantur cap. 9 De sacr● lib 4 cap 〈◊〉 Cap ● sect 2 Insti●u● 4 lib cap 17 sect 10 〈◊〉 11. Ibid sect 31 Cap 6 sect ● Ibid sect ● Cap 19 〈◊〉 ● Cap 3 sect 1 Cap 18 sect 1 Ad Da●d In Ioan tract 3 In Psal 98 Actes ● vers 〈◊〉 Cap 1● sect ● Cap 1● sect 3 Luk 24 vers 39 1● 28 ●17 11 14 12 ● 16 1 Cor 11 ●0 Pag 〈◊〉 Pag 286 Pag 34● Pag 191 Math 8 8 Math 4●● Iohn 6 53 Iohn 15 Ma●● 〈◊〉 Mat 12 〈◊〉 Pag 295 Pag 298 〈◊〉 298 Pag 287 Pag 369 Pag 380 〈…〉 Mar ●424 Iohn 6 ●6 Actes 32● W R. Cap 19 sect 1 Tho Aquinas in 3 quest 76 art 30 Stella cle●icorum Anto●● 〈◊〉 Pe●●us de plaud Hug of clunice Gratian de cons dist 2 can ●go Be●●n 〈◊〉 Caie●a● et alii De eucha ●ist sentence 4 ●ist 13 De captiv● babil