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i_o omit_v but_o where_o he_o return_v to_o admonish_v i_o his_o fellow_n fulke_n as_o he_o call_v i_o to_o look_v better_o to_o my_o logic_n concern_v my_o argument_n ab_fw-la authoritate_fw-la negative_a i_o do_v he_o to_o wit_n that_o god_n i_o thank_v i_o be_o not_o to_o learn_v logic_n nor_o the_o force_n of_o a_o argument_n of_o authority_n negative_o of_o he_o the_o argument_n that_o anger_v he_o be_v this_o all_o true_a doctrine_n be_v teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n purgatory_n be_v not_o teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n therefore_o purgatory_n be_v no_o true_a doctrine_n here_o be_v two_o fault_n say_v bristol_n one_o because_o the_o mayor_n be_v false_a the_o other_o suppose_v the_o mayor_n be_v true_a yet_o can_v the_o argument_n be_v oppose_v to_o our_o argument_n of_o tradition_n counsel_n father_n i_o will_v first_o prove_v the_o mayor_n that_o whereby_o the_o man_n of_o god_n may_v be_v make_v perfect_a furnish_v to_o all_o good_a work_n be_v teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n 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itself_o may_v we_o not_o be_v leeve_o in_o he_o etc._n etc._n fulke_n in_o the_o sacrament_n we_o eat_v bread_n which_o be_v the_o oblation_n merueilous_o make_v in_o the_o remembrance_n of_o christ_n we_o eat_v not_o that_o which_o be_v sacrifice_v on_o the_o cross_v in_o the_o real_a substance_n thereof_o but_o by_o faith_n apply_v unto_o we_o the_o fruit_n and_o effect_n of_o his_o passion_n jewel_n s._n hierome_n call_v the_o eat_n of_o the_o divine_a &_o spiritual_a flesh_n of_o christ_n the_o remember_v that_o he_o die_v for_o us._n saunder_n then_z the_o oblation_n itself_o be_v eat_v of_o we_o which_o he_o offer_v on_o the_o cross_n according_a to_o itself_o fulke_n what_o mad_a man_n will_v say_v the_o oblation_n itself_o &_o the_o remembrance_n thereof_o to_o be_v all_o one_o jewel_n clemens_n alexandrinus_n say_v there_o be_v a_o fleshly_a blood_n wherewith_o we_o be_v redeem_v &_o a_o spiritual_a wherewith_o we_o be_v anoint_v and_o this_o be_v to_o drink_v the_o blood_n 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sand._n s._n ambrose_n the_o mist_n cap._n 〈◊〉_d do_v speak_v of_o that_o signification_n which_o be_v make_v while_o the_o priest_n pronounce_v hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la which_o word_n he_o say_v do_v work_n in_o the_o consecration_n that_o which_o they_o signify_v therefore_o they_o work_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n fulk_n fie_o for_o shame_n saunder_n when_o ambrose_n say_v post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la after_o consecration_n will_v you_o say_v he_o speak_v of_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n which_o as_o speak_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o consecration_n the_o word_n of_o christ_n indeed_o do_v work_n as_o ambrose_n say_v and_o what_o work_n they_o but_o that_o which_o be_v add_v to_o the_o element_n after_o consecration_n namely_o a_o signification_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ._n jew._n it_o be_v a_o bondage_n and_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n say_v s._n augustine_n to_o take_v the_o sign_n in_o steed_n of_o the_o thing_n signify_v 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fulk_n he_o speak_v of_o come_v to_o the_o visible_a table_n so_o as_o we_o may_v attain_v to_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n &_o for_o that_o cause_n he_o say_v we_o must_v be_v eagle_n in_o this_o life_n chrys._n in_o 1._o cor._n ho._n 24._o sand._n he_o say_v ipsa_fw-la mensa_fw-la the_o very_a table_n be_v our_o salvation_n &_o life_n and_o again_o this_o mystery_n make_v that_o whileâ—_n we_o be_v in_o this_o life_n earth_n may_v be_v heaven_n to_o us._n fulk_n as_o earth_n be_v heaven_n to_o we_o &_o the_o table_n salvation_n so_o be_v the_o sacrament_n the_o body_n of_o christ._n jew._n send_v up_o thy_o faith_n say_v augu._n &_o thou_o have_v take_v he_o sand._n the_o place_n be_v abuse_v see_v lib._n 2._o cap._n 29._o fulk_n and_o see_v the_o answer_n there_o jew._n the_o bread_n that_o we_o receive_v with_o our_o bodily_a mouth_n be_v a_o eathly_a thing_n and_o therefore_o a_o figure_n as_o the_o water_n in_o baptism_n sand._n the_o water_n in_o 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