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A81350 An apologie for the Reformed churches wherein is shew'd the necessitie of their separation from the Church of Rome: against those who accuse them of making a schisme in Christendome. By John Daille pastor of the Reformed Church at Paris. Translated out of French. And a preface added; containing the judgement of an university-man, concerning Mr. Knot's last book against Mr. Chillingworth. Daillé, Jean, 1594-1670.; Smith, Thomas, 1623 or 4-1661. 1653 (1653) Wing D113; Thomason E1471_4; ESTC R208710 101,153 145

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