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A66402 An impartial consideration of those speeches, which pass under the name of the five Jesuits lately executed viz. [brace] Mr. Whitebread, Mr. Harcourt, Mr. Gawen, Mr. Turner, and Mr. Fenwick : in which it is proved, that according to their principles, they not only might, but also ought, to die after that manner, with solemn protestation of their innocency. Williams, John, 1636?-1709. 1679 (1679) Wing W2710; ESTC R211881 18,885 29

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denied that ever he was beyond Sea and affirmed That he was Married and had six Children and was an Husbandman And yet acknowledged afterward that he had been formerly six years at Rome in the College was admitted there into Orders and was a Jesuit and that his true Name was Cornford and that in what he said before he meant That he was married to his Breviary and that he had six Spiritual Children and that he had not been beyond Sea so as to confess it to the Arch-Bishop This Answer was much talked of and what Sancta Clara hath defended under his own hand as is yet to be seen This was also the opinion of Garnet and the way he took for having an Oath administred to him and being examined upon the word of a Priest whether he had ever sent or writ to Greenwel the Jesuit since they were together at Coughton answered No and when convinced of it by the Letters produced said he had done nothing in his denial but what was lawful But supposing this should be at the point of Death may this then be practised Lud. Lopez saith That if a Woman having been excommunicated for not living with her Husband should at the point of Death to obtain Absolution swear if she recovered to return to him reserving in her self if it might be without Sin she shall not be guilty of Perjury if she knew an impediment though she recovers and lives from him And this was Mr. Tresham's case who having accused Garnet of the Spanish Treason for fear this might be to the prejudice of the Jesuit three hours before he died subscribed a Paper in which he testified upon his Salvation that he had not seen him of 16 years before whereas Garnet himself confessed that within two years before they had frequently been together All which Garnet said he believed Mr. Tresham might have done as he meant to equivocate And it is an Example may safely be followed as he maintained This was the Case of Parry that attempted the Life of Queen Elizabeth who upon his Apprehension and after at his Trial confessed it but at last denies it lays his Blood upon the Queen and Judges and summons the Queen to answer for his Blood before God But what if they voluntarily renounce all Equivocations and Mental Reservations or are required so to do in Oaths and Protestations Is this defensible upon their Principles So saith Parsons When thou answerest to a Judg that is incompetent by Equivocation If he ask whether you Equivocate or not You may answer No but with a further Equivocation If he urges again and asks whether you did not Equivocate in your denying it You may answer No with another secret Equivocation and so as often as you are asked Nay he saith further When a Judg is not lawful though a Person hath first sworn to answer directly he may use doubtful words which if they prevail not then say the Doctors that he may deny and say I know nothing I have seen nothing c. reserving in his mind that he knoweth nothing which in that unjust Examination he is bound to utter This was the measure Garnet the Provincial of the Jesuits took for when he was called before the Lords and was asked Whether Hall the Jesuit and he had any Conference together in the Tower and being desired not to Equivocate he stifly denied it upon his Soul reiterating it with many detestable Execrations And yet when proved against him cryed the Lords Mercy and said He had offended if Equivocation did not help him Of this we have a notable Instance in one John Coome that Anno 1609 being examined by the Bishop of London and required to set down his Answer in writing did it after this manner Whatsoever I now affirm I affirm upon the Faith of a Christian without all Equivocation and Mental Reservation or secret Interpretation kept to my self and affirm it according to the plain sense of the Words by me spoken So God me help through Jesus Christ First I say therefore that my Name is John Coome neither have I been called by any other Name here or beyond Seas and particularly that my ordinary Name is not Scammel neither is it my true Name Furthermore I affirm upon the Faith of a Christian that I never was in Orders according to the Way of the Church of Rome and did never enter into a Vow according to the Rule of the Jesuits nor ever studied in any English Seminary in Spain or Flanders And to the truth of all this I have subscribed and of my own accord have subscribed John Coome These things he swore and yet did all by Equivocation and Reservation for he afterwards confessed that he was a Priest and Jesuit and did commonly write his name Scammel And that they may use Equivocation when they declare against it see it further made good by Dr. Stillingfleet in the sore-quoted Sermon pag. 39. If we reflect upon these Propositions we may be able to reconcile all that Mr. Whitebread and his Brethren did declare at their late Execution or whatever they are made to say in these Speeches that pass up and down in their Names to the justice of the Sentence they suffered by It 's true amongst Protestants nay amongst Heathens such solemn Protestations would be hearkned to and those that are honest and sincere could hardly think those that use such Asseverations to be otherwise But if we consider what hath been before said we have reason to judg of Them by other measures For some of their Principles do shew that they may do it As those of being dispensed with in it and of having Absolution after it and of denying and swearing with Reservation before an incompetent Authority But others of the abovesaid Principles make it necessary and shew that they ought to do it As if they were required so to do by their Superiors whose Commands they are not to question or dispute If it were for a notable Good or preventing a considerable Mischief or if they heard it in Confession In these cases they are obliged to deny and to deny again to equivocate upon Equivocation to die and I had almost said to damn themselves rather than confess when they are thus bound to be secret But that they need not fear for besides the security that they have otherwise it 's said in a famous Book of theirs that God granted to their Order that for the first 300 years none of them should be damned And perhaps they may think it worth the while to venture Purgatory to secure their present Plot from Miscarriage as the Lord Cordes is said to have been content to lie seven years in Hell on condition Calice might be recovered from the English That if we consider their Circumstances and peruse their Speeches it may be presumed that they acted according to these Principles And here I shall not repeat what I before said