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be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o dimensive_a quantity_n such_o a_o distance_n of_o part_n say_v he_o be_v in_o the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n but_o according_a to_o that_o distance_n of_o part_n he_o be_v not_o in_o this_o sacrament_n but_o he_o be_v there_o according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o his_o substance_n here_o beside_o the_o disagreement_n of_o thomas_n from_o gardiner_n thomas_n have_v frame_v such_o a_o christ_n as_o indeed_o be_v no_o christ_n he_o have_v nether_a quantity_n nor_o proportion_n of_o body_n nor_o distance_n of_o part_n yet_o he_o confess_v that_o his_o true_a body_n in_o heaven_n have_v so_o and_o if_o his_o body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n have_v not_o so_o then_o either_o he_o overthrow_v the_o truth_n of_o christ_n body_n or_o else_o it_o will_v inevitable_o follow_v without_o any_o qualification_n if_n or_o and_n that_o the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n gardiner_n say_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v there_o in_o no_o sensible_a manner_n as_o before_o allen_n say_v corpus_n christ_n est_fw-la sensibiliter_fw-la in_o sacramentâ—_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v sensible_o in_o the_o sacrament_n 435._o allen_n ut_fw-la ante_fw-la fol._n 435._o again_o within_o three_o page_n do_v gardiner_n contradict_v himself_o twice_o very_o direct_o in_o the_o first_o he_o say_v christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n give_v true_o his_o flesh_n to_o be_v eat_v b._n fol._n 87._o b._n the_o same_o which_o he_o take_v of_o the_o virgin_n next_o we_o receane_n not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n christ_n flesh_n that_o be_v crucify_v be_v so_o a_o visible_a &_o mortal_a flesh_n but_o christ_n flesh_n glorious_a incorruptible_a &_o impassable_a a_o godly_a &_o spiritual_a flesh_n and_o yet_o so_o constant_a be_v he_o in_o the_o very_a next_o page_n a._n fol._n 89._o a._n he_o strive_v to_o prove_v out_o of_o s._n jerome_n &_o other_o that_o they_o do_v not_o mean_v that_o we_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v sit_v in_o heaven_n reign_v some_o joseph_n or_o daniel_n must_v expound_v these_o dream_n first_o we_o receive_v not_o the_o flesh_n that_o be_v crucify_v last_o we_o receive_v he_o not_o as_o he_o sit_v in_o heaven_n reign_v and_o be_v glorify_v so_o by_o this_o reckon_n nether_a first_o nor_o last_o do_v we_o receive_v he_o at_o al._n 24._o de_fw-fr euch._n sac_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 2_o fol._n 24._o how_o can_v bellarmine_n say_v and_o say_v true_o that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n have_v his_o natural_a manner_n of_o be_v in_o heaven_n but_o in_o the_o sacrament_n it_o have_v not_o his_o natural_a but_o sacramental_a which_o we_o also_o say_v and_o yet_o that_o sacramental_a manner_n to_o be_v express_v by_o the_o word_n substantial_o and_o again_o to_o say_v that_o whersoever_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v 320._o ibid._n l._n 3._o c._n 7._o f._n 317._o 320._o there_o he_o have_v his_o form_n &_o humane_a shape_n &_o situation_n of_o part_n &_o order_n which_o he_o have_v in_o heaven_n and_o that_o he_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n aswell_o as_o in_o heaven_n &_o yet_o in_o the_o one_o to_o fill_v a_o place_n and_o have_v distinction_n of_o part_n and_o in_o the_o other_o to_o fill_v no_o place_n and_o yet_o have_v his_o dimension_n &_o distinction_n of_o part_n which_o be_v very_o hard_a 27._o ibid._n l._n 1._o c._n 2._o foe_n 26._o 27._o a_o gain_n he_o teach_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n be_v verum_fw-la veale_fw-mi naturale_fw-la animatum_fw-la quantum_fw-la coloratum_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o true_a body_n real_a natural_a have_v life_n big_a or_o great_a &_o colour_v &_o yet_o we_o may_v not_o say_v that_o it_o be_v sensible_a visible_a to_o be_v touch_v stretch_v out_o although_o it_o be_v so_o in_o heaven_n bellarmine_n in_o this_o controversy_n be_v like_o turnus_n in_o the_o skirmish_n with_o aeneas_n petit_fw-la aequor_fw-la a_o tornus_fw-la he_o traverse_v the_o field_n 12._o virg._n in_o aenei_fw-la l._n 12._o as_o though_o he_o will_v do_v much_o but_o incertos_fw-la implicat_fw-la orb_n but_o his_o turn_n and_o round_n foreshowed_n his_o ill_a success_n nam_fw-la perfidus_fw-la â—…sis_fw-la frangitur_fw-la in_o modiâ—que_fw-la ardentem_fw-la desâ—ritictu_fw-la his_o treacherous_a sword_n break_v and_o leave_v he_o burn_v in_o rage_n in_o the_o heat_n of_o the_o conflict_n so_o do_v bellarmine_n own_o word_n confute_v his_o cause_n have_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n wheresoever_o it_o be_v his_o form_n &_o humane_a shape_n and_o situation_n of_o part_n and_o yet_o may_v we_o not_o say_v it_o be_v extensum_fw-la extend_v into_o place_n and_o yet_o may_v we_o say_v that_o he_o want_v not_o his_o dimension_n nor_o be_v without_o shape_n &_o countenance_n in_o the_o eucharist_n 186._o nos_fw-la non_fw-la dicimus_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n dimensionibus_fw-la aut_fw-la fancy_n career_n in_o sermone_fw-la de_fw-fr sancto_fw-la martino_n twice_o cite_v by_o bellar._n l._n 1._o c._n 2._o fol._n 27._o &_o l._n 2._o c._n 11._o f._n 186._o what_o shall_v hold_v in_o the_o extension_n allen_n allow_v the_o word_n sensibiliter_fw-la sensible_o bellarmine_n refuse_v it_o and_o so_o do_v he_o corporal_o which_o harding_n and_o some_o of_o the_o rest_n use_v bellarmine_n hold_v the_o word_n spirituallite_a spiritual_o as_o a_o man_n hold_v a_o wolf_n by_o the_o ear_n where_o there_o be_v danger_n in_o hold_v he_o and_o danger_n in_o let_v of_o he_o go_v he_o confess_v that_o s._n bernard_n use_v it_o and_o oppose_v it_o to_o carnaliter_fw-la carnal_o speak_v of_o the_o sacrament_n tamen_fw-la non_fw-la videtur_fw-la hac_fw-la vox_fw-la multum_fw-la frequentanda_fw-la yet_o that_o word_n say_v he_o seem_v not_o much_o to_o be_v use_v because_o there_o be_v danger_n in_o it_o thus_o must_v bellarmine_n conceit_n be_v the_o model_n whereto_o our_o faith_n must_v be_v frame_v he_o say_v further_a that_o the_o counsel_n of_o trent_n express_v the_o 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