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A17013 English protestants plea, and petition, for English preists [sic] and papists to the present court of Parlament, and all persecutors of them: diuided into two parts. In the first is proued by the learned protestants of England, that these preists and Catholicks, haue hitherto been vniustly persecuted, though they haue often and publickly offered soe much, as any Christians in conscience might doe. In the second part, is proued by the same protestants, that the same preistly sacrificinge function, acknowledgeing and practize of the same supreame spirituall iurisdiction of the apostolick see of Rome, and other Catholick doctrines, in the same sence wee now defend them, and for which wee ar at this present persecuted, continued and were practized in this Iland without interruption in al ages, from S. Peter the Apostle, to these our tymes. Broughton, Richard. 1621 (1621) STC 3895.5; ESTC S114391 56,926 128

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sonne Robert Earle of Salisbury ne●er to persecute any of that Religion Thus hee acknowledged to a worthy and noble witnesse who as God is witnesse so hath testified We doe not we will not contest with our present most honoured wise and learned Soueraigne neither enter into his priuate iudgement But if any the best learned protestant Archbishops or Bishops you haue will iustifie all those publicke speaches writings and bookes which goe vnder the name of our King to proceede from him if it will please him to giue way vnto ●t they shall haue maintained against them that ●y those published writings it is damnable for ●hem to persecute vs and we in conscience cannot if to gaine a thousand worlds be of your protestant Religion And we humbly hope this nothing derogateth to his prudent Maiestie for we openly and willingly write that concerning all your best learned Bishops and others that haue written as namely Whitguist and Bancroft of Canterburie Bilson and Andrewes of Winchester Doue Barlowe Godwyne Field Bridges Hooker Couell and all the best students amongst you were in iudgement far from persecution of Catholikes and as far from assurance that they themselues were in true Religion It is no vaine boasting now to write it because in all controuersiall poynts we haue many yeares since invincibly prooued it by your best learned Protestant Bishops and Doctors Protestants Recantation in matters of Religion l. 1. l 2 Protestants Demonstrat for Catholikes Recusancy c. both in generall that neither Scriptures Traditions Counsels Apostolike Churches Fathers or any authoritie in diuine matters is for you but all against you that you haue not neither hereafter by your Religion can possibly find any Rule or direction to bring you into trueth That there is not nor can be any true and competent Iudge or Consistorie with you to decide these contentions and bring you into the right way That there is neither true Bishop Priest or Cleargie man in your Congregation That in all particular questions betweene vs you are in error All these things so inuincibly prooued by your selues that now after diuers yeares our bookes receaue no answere at all And your best ●earned are so far from taking this charge in ●and that but for disgrace of these times with ●ou they would in their liues and health ●ot liue in your wauering religion but be recon●iled to the Romane Church as many of them ●ately at their deaths haue bene And now in ●his your Parlament time to moue you and London to know the trueth the late Pro●estant Bishop thereof Doctor King in his life ●or external cariage a great persecutor of Priests ●nd Catholikes a little before his death did plainely denounce your Religion to be damnable renounced as wee had prooued before of all such that he was any Bishop or Cleargie man was penitent for his protesting heresie humblie at the feete of a Priest whom he had formerly persecuted confessed his sinnes receaued Sacramentall absolution at his handes and was reconciled to the Catholike Romane Church of which he had in his life bene so vehement a persecutor Zealously and openly protesting there was no saluation to be had out of that holy Catholike Romane Church Therefore wee neede not to dispute these matters anew But because by the present tempests you raise against vs in this your Parlament we are assured that your storming persecutions are not ceased if your wils and anger can maintaine their blustrings therefore we cannot but still defend our innocencie and humbly admonish you that by these courses you offer and doe we receaue and suffer wrong And because you see and know you are neither able to instruct vs or your selues persisting in persecution you fall into that lamentable estate preached vnto you out of Pulpit by your now Archbishop of Yorke D. Matthewes Serm. before the Parlament and in publike Parlament denounced by his Maiestie Persecution without instruction is but tyrannie K. Iames speach in Parlament That you cannot or vncharitably will not both leade to that damnable estate we are now euidently to demonstrate to you and make knowne to the world for our owne excuse which we can doe by no better or more certaine meanes in this case then publish and make knowne to our dearest countrey that from the first beginning of these your persecutions broached and borne in the first Parlament of Queene Elizabeth wee haue in all humble and best meanes we could requested and sought for instruction from your best learned Bishops Doctors and instructors among you if we be in error by many and sundry petitions to our protestant Princes Parlaments and others that were in chiefe place and command to procure it if there had bene any in your Religion that could performe it If you had that could and would not your estate is more then dangerous if you haue none can instruct vs which you make apparant if you still persist in persecution You heare our King and your Archbishop call vnto you Correction without instruction is but tyrannie Therfore in this first part of this Protestant plea and petition of your best learned Protestants in both parts to be vndeniably proued iustified by them wee propose some of those most humble suites and petitions we haue by the best warrant spirituall we had in England our most Reuerend Archpriest his learned Priests and chiefest renowned Catholikes presented to procure and obtaine this instruction in conference and disputation with your best learned Protestant Bishops and Doctors and with such vnequall conditions on our behalfe that except the Catholikes of England had bin assured they were in trueth and their disputant Priests could not be instructed by any the best learned in your Religion they could not in conscience haue made so large and disaduantageous offers vnto you as their seuerall petitions and suits will witnesse Except you will thinke to flatter your selues that these renowned Priests and catholikes did doubt of their Religion which their martirdomes and sufferings for it do inuincibly reproue and appeale to you for instruction which you denying and yet so persecuting them can neuer free your selues from that dolefull condition remembred by our gratious King and your Archbishop you will further receaue in this first part such iuste and most reasonable and vnanswereable reasons by the Religions and proceedings of all your supreame heads in spirituall busines vntill his maiesties time wherein silence will be vsed King Henry 8. King Edward the 6. and Queene Elizabeth that as they are set downe by your best protestant writers we cannot yeelde to you in matters of Religion neither you in conscience either persecute vs in these things or your selues secured in that profession Howe Catholike Religion was vniustlye suppressed by Queene Elizabeth not one Spirituall person hauing voyce in Parlamente consenting no disputation or ordinarie defence thereof permitted to the Catholike Bishoppes and Cleargie and their duetifull loyaltie notwithstanding their pietie honoured by their protestant
thing like it selfe or at least dislike to suffer a thing contrary to it selfe Knit the bodie and the soule togeather Let not vs your catholike natiue english and obedient subiects stand in more perill for the frequenting the blessed Sacraments and exercising the catholike religion and that most secretly then do the Catholikes subict to the Turke publickly then do the peruerse and basphemous Iewes haunting their Synagogues vnder sundry Christian Kings openly and then doe the Protestants enioying their publike assemblies vnder diuers catholike Kings and Princes quietly Let it not be treason for the sicke man in the body euen at the last gaspe to seeke ghostly councell for the saluation of his soule of a catholike Priest so shall both soule and body spiritual and temporal according to our most bounden dutie serue you truely and praye for your long and most prosperous raigne effectually Then shall this your gratious tolleration sound out your most famous memory so tryumphantly to all nations that the same shal be preserued of record from age to age and consecrated to endles glorie and rerenowne Accept most mercifull Prince our faithfulnes regard our dutiful hearte despise not our sincere affection Let our rehearsed miseries be relieued with your renowned mercies accompt those subiects to be vndoubtedly faithful in whose accusations and liues hath appeared a chiefe and speciall care not to offend God It nowe behoueth vs moste humbly to craue your maiesties gratious pardon for that we haue not obserued the vsuall breuitie of supplications being destitute of friendes to speake in our behalfe wee are driuen to set downe somewhat largly by writing that which might by speach with les tediousnes bene vttered Finally we make our hūble petitiōs that your excellency wil giue vs such credite and affiance to our words othes that we may frō henceforth be deemed cleere voy●e of al suspition both in thought word deed to refraine publick places of prayers only for feare to fal into dānable sin not in any hope or regard of any worldly prefermēt or policy Secōdly to haue that pittiful consideration remorse of our calamities as may be thought most expedient to the comfort of vs afflicted and most agreeing with your M. most gratious pleasure good likeing Thirdly chiefly not to suffer any law to be made whereby Catholike Priests of this realme shall be banished their receiuers highly punished Grant O merciful Q. that we may do the works of mercy charity to Gods Priests so long as they pray for your M. vse thēselues dutifully we are the more encouraged thus boldly to entreat with your M. because in former years it hath bin deliuered in pulpets published by books late printed otherwise diuulged that your clemēcy neither hath nor will punish any of your catholike subiects for their cōscience in matters of religiō only For our parts what successe soeuer shal grow vnto vs by reason of this our hūble supplication we do aduisedly firmely vow to God that your M. shal finde such subects as God requireth and your M. desireth That is most louing most loyal and most dutiful Our Lord God preserue your M. to our inestimable ioye and your endlesse felicitie Amen The Parlaments vniust proceeding against Priestes and Catholiks and persecution without all cause by their owne iudgements HItherto the petition of the Catholikes of England penned by the reuerend Priests in that time and by their assent presented to Queene Elizabeth and to her handes deliuered by M. Shelly in the 27. yeare of her raigne as she walked in her Parke at Greenewich and at the time of the Parlament then holdē by which Parlament all English men made Priests since the feast of the natiuitie of S. Iohn Baptist in the first yeare of her raigne were made Traytors and the receiuers of them fellons The same M. Shelly for his presuming to deliuer it vnto that Queene not acquainting her priuie Councell there-with before and for no other cause as hee often protested was by Sir Francis Walsingham then chiefe Secretarie committed close prisoner to the Marshallsey where he dyed which was the summe of the answere made vnto this most humble and religious petition which notwithstanding that Queene and her Parlament then proceeded in making that cruell Lawe as commonly the Protestants since haue presumed Although M. Robert Apreece of Washingly in Huntingtonshire lately deceased and in his life a worthy Confessor did often affirme before diuers credible witnesses approuing it againe not three weekes before his death in the presence of many being thereof of purpose demanded that the Earle of Kent which then was and present in that Parlament did constantly affirme that Queene Elizabeth did not confirme that statue but said I' a visera which disabled it to be a lawe He testified further God is called to witnes of this true relation that a gentlemā named M. Hambdon at that time gentleman vsher of Bromeley then L. Chancellour and present when the Queene came to allowe or disallow the lawes then entreated and assuredly iustified to the same M. Apreece and diuers other gentlemen assembled togeather at a supper that very daye that this Bill was not passed by the Queenes consent but she said as the Earle before affirmed and that giueth more strength for this to be so The same M. Apreece confirmed vpon his owne knowledge that this statute was not put in the written copie or Catalogue of the lawes that passed in that Parlament was diuulged and so continued a fourtnight together in common acceptance without contradiction But howsoeuer the trueth of this is most true and too true it was and is that by onely pretence of such a lawe many holy and worthy Priestes haue bene most cruelly put to death and most grieuous afflictions raysed and prosecuted against the Catholikes of England by that onely warrant Yet this Queene sometime before her death or at least some of her priuie Councell gaue some hope of a mittigation thinking perhaps that after her death his maiestie that nowe is being vndoubtedly by his true and most lawfull right to succeede could no be so well pleased to finde the Catholikes of England which had endured so much for their constant defence of the most vnquestionable tytle of him and his holy mother to be so grieuously afflicted by the Protestants estate of this kingdome which had not bene so friendly and fauourably vnto it Therefore some hopes were giuen to the Archpriest of England then that his Priestes should at the laste haue disputation with their Bishops and Doctors and this was so credibly related and denounced vnto him that two seuerall times he sommoned appoynted foure of his learned Priests to vndergoe that combate His assigned disputants were these D. VVeston D. Smyth D. Tho. Wright and M. Richard Broughton Three of these also hee appoynted to despute D. Smith M. Wright and M. Broughton at the Parlament in K. Iames his time when the new