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A04901 A confutation of monstrous and horrible heresies, taught by H.N. and embraced of a number, who call themselues the Familie of Loue by I. Knewstub. Seene and allowed, according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions. Knewstubs, John, 1544-1624. 1579 (1579) STC 15040; ESTC S108097 192,800 286

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preuenting of GOD his goodnesse the dignitie and desert of bringing him selfe vnto Christe by his hatred and mislyking of sinne wheras the mislyking of sinne as well as the loue of righteousnesse are fruites that followe our beeing in Christ not causes that goe before to procure the same as appeareth in the Epistle to the Romans Likewise thinke ye also saith the Apostle that ye are deade vnto sinne and liuing vnto God in Iesus Christ our Lorde He ioyneth with the Pelagians against the grace of God which renueth and regenerateth vs and inwardly draweth vs by his spirit to beleeue and doe the will of God and will haue the grace of GOD no further to stretch vnto vs then that we haue from the Lord a lawe and doctrine whereby wee may learne what to beleeue and what to doe but the power to performe this albeit they will not refuse to call it the grace of GOD yet they say it is our nature according as August reporteth Isti autem asserunt sicut a fratribus qui eorum libros legerunt cognouimus in eo dei gratiam deputandam quod talem hominis instituit creauitque naturam quae per propriam volumtatem legem dei possit implere siue naturaliter in corde conscriptam siue in literis datam eandem quoque legē ad dei gratiam pertinere quod illam Deus in adiutoriū hominibus dedit illam vero gratiā qua vt dictum est Christiani sumus cuius Apostolus Praedicator est dicens condelector legi dei secūdum interiorem hominem Video autem aliam legem in membris meis repugnantem legi mentis mei et captiuantem me in lege peccati miser homo quis me liberabit de corpore mortis huius gratia dei per Iesum Christum dominum nostrum nolunt omnino cognoscere nec apertè quidam oppugnare audent In their opinion as Augustine saieth the grace of God towards vs is this that we haue such a nature from him that by our owne wil and power we may satisfie fulfill the law of God and that this is also that other parte of the grace of God towardes vs that hee hath giuen a lawe for the helpe of man But as for that grace whereby wee are are Christians whereof the Apostle speatketh saying I am delighted with the lawe of God in the inner man but I see an other lawe in my members striuing against the lawe of my minde Miserable man that I am who shall deliuer mee from this body of sinne The grace of God thorowe Iesus Christ our Lorde that will not acknowledge that neither dare they openly impugne or speake against it This plucking thorowe the seruice of that gracious word which he affirmeth to haue the foregoing by vs in the administration of the holie woorde in the thirde and fourth Section is according to the Pelagians the other grace of GOD which is added to that of our good nature euen to haue a rule instruction from God to guide this nature which in their opinion is so franke and so free vnto good that if it may once see the way there is no stay with it or let to keepe it from going forwarde And therefore where it is written in the Gospell after Saint Iohn No man can come vnto mee except the father which hath sent mee drawe him H.N. calleth this drawing of the father a plucking that plucking to be the giuing of a lawe and worde to rule our liues by In opinion then he ioyneth iumpe with the Pelagians for denying originall sinne he is forced to confesse the grace of GOD to be in nature and againe we see the lawe which doth poynte out the right way vnto life is called the plucking of the father or baptising in the fathers name H.N. Section 10 And that this is the vpright Christian Baptisme or washing in the name of the father and is the true baptisme which hath the forgoing in the christian doctrine of the seruice of loue Section 11 We confesse likewise that all such as beleue not euen thus in God the father beleeue vnrightly and that also they all which become not euen so as is aboue saide baptized thorowe the seruice of the holie worde vnder the obedience of the law of the Lorde or of the doctrine of his word in Gods loue or true being beare or carry not Gods holy name nor the spirite of his true beeing nor are baptized in the name of the father and that in like manner it is not meete or conuenient that men should count such vnbeleeuers and vnbaptized ones for Christians neither yet also for men at whose handes one should any way suppose or trust to finde any woorde of Gods trueth or yet any workes of righteousnesse or good seruice that God regardeth or accepteth Answeare It appeareth by these wordes that H. N. reckoneth of all beside his owne secte For there are no people beside him selfe and his familie who thinke or beleeue so erroniously as this confession teacheth as of Heathen vnbeleeuers vnbaptized ones they be his owne words as also be these It is not meete that men should account such for christians Whē hee concludeth that wee may not think to finde any woorde of God his trueth or any workes of righteousnesse among them whosoeuer beleeueth otherwise he speaketh not only ignorantly for that some trueth may be founde where there is store of errour and a wicked lyfe may be founde where the groundes of religion are truely holden but also maliciously agaynst the true Churche of GOD as that no woorde of trueth or woorke of righteousnesse were among vs who abhorre his religion as Heretical deuilishe doctrine What benefite doe these men receiue by the ministerie of the worde being thus perswaded of the Church of God In what readinesse are they to ioyne with any enimie for the ouerthrowe of the Churche being perswaded of vs that neither woorke of righteousnesse nor woorde of trueth is among vs I trust the Lorde wil moue the heartes of those who haue the gouernment in their handes either to trauaile to plant in them a better opinion of the Church or if that will not bee to cut them of as rotten members before they shall woorke any greater woe vnto the same The opinion of H. N. touching the Churche of God as appeareth by this his speache is most pernicious neither thinketh he worsse of Turks and infidels then hee doeth of all Christians that receiue not his doctrine What effectes this opinion may woorke in the heartes of the simple people that be seduced by him I leaue it to their godlie care to whom it doth chiefly appertaine to refourme the same H. N. The seconde Article Section 13 Wee beleeue in Iesus Christe the onely sonne of God our Lorde We confesse that the same sonne of GOD Iesus Christ is the very like being of the liuing God his father through whom god the father hath
the like practise of counterfaiting Papists who make shew of religion hauing sworne hearts to the Pope whose dispensation either they haue or trust in some reconciling reliques and ceremonyes from Rome for these causes I thought it some danger to lay open suche blasphemyes such escapes of an euill and erronious conscience which beginning long agoe in the ancient heretiques the Priscillanistes Montanists Pelagians Anabaptists and Catharists c. and hauing been long time buried in the botome of Hell are not thence to be raked any more Also I thought it almost impossible to meet with such an inconstant and slippery serpent that hath so obscure wordes now to hide and now to conuay her poyson thereby to auoyde the wholesome remedy by the worde and iust punishment by the magistrate But my good brother these my doubts grew from the eye I had to their will and way finding the Serpent so subtile to charme others yet him selfe to shut his care so against the trueth that he will not heare the voyce of the charmer charme hee neuer so wisely and that it is as hard to finde out his way as the way of a Ship that hath sayled through the sea For afterwarde considering that Antichrist did bring as he thought to perfection the mystery of iniquitie in the working force of Satan in all powers and signes and lying woonders and in all deceit of vnrighteousnesse as S. Paul prophesied we in these last ages haue clerely seene and that notwithstanding God hath already almost altogither consumed that man of sin with the spirit of his mouth which is his word preached in the Gospel I acknowledge with praise to God the father in Iesus Christ for that sword of the spirit that two edged swoord that it is able either to heale or to wounde to death all aduersary power be it either in al impietie of heresie or in all corruption of maners Yea if H.N. were freed from all his sinne and washed from all corruption If he in deede were as he is in the fancie of his familie an angell from heauen or by an other transubstantiation more then an archangell or that which they affirme and I dare not write yet teaching otherwise then we haue receiued from the holy Prophets and Apostles he is to be holden accurssed and his Gospell of the kingdom with all other his doctrine to be had in abhomination They that pray are thus to pray against such heresies they that write are so vpon occasion to write and Magistrates are in a zeale of Gods house to put on that minde that the holy trueth may bee exalted and all heresies rooted out to the glory of GOD and the preseruation of his Churche from those damnable waies wherein many not esteeming nor seeking the trueth are sooner destroyed then they can feare destruction Therfore you haue doone wel in the Lord drawing out that sworde of the worde of God to make a separation betweene thought and thought betweene practise and practise betweene secret open paths of errour and contempt betwene ioynts and marrow betwene soule and spirit that all the outgoings escapes and dennes wherein these heresies either lye in waite and worke against the trueth or hide themselues from discouery may be discouered and the bright face of the trueth appeare to the great glory of God ouerthrowing of al error cōuerting those of that family of Loue whom he hath loued and in mercie will conuert deliuering their eyes from blindenesse and feete frō falling and to stay those that might for want of the voice of the trumpet sodenly fal into the enemies hand to be caried away into the miserable captiuitie of those heresies and to the second death that followeth thē as their iust reward Also the Magistrate by such a manifest discouery of those blasphemies against God against his Christ against his worde shall more more see into the great danger of their horrible sect and find necessary cause to ioyne with the worde to cut it off lest in the end they with their brethrē the Anabaptists exalt themselues asmuch against the holy and necessary authoritte of magistrates as they doe already against God and his word by whome Princes raigne receiue their blessed peace and safetie Against which Magistrates this practise they haue vsed and still doe vse abusing their holy place of Iustice they recant in woordes without recantation in heart as I noted before holding it for a rule that they ought not to destroy the Temple of GOD whiche is say they in a grosse and absurde interpretation our body and therefore we will not be brought to persecution and death Making a rule against the rule of Christ and against the most wonderfull practise thereof in him selfe and his holy Martyres who loosing their life heere haue found it in heauen and hauing their bodies burnt to ashes in hope they looke for the ioyful resurrection of the same bodyes at the comming of Iesus Christ Therfore my very good brother I thanke God for your labours praying his maiestie to blesse them that the offenders may see and repent their offence that others yet free may remaine by such instruction free for euer from those and such heresies and may be more more armed against error with the trueth and comforted therein to their saluation Praying also that God would continue with increase that spirit of zeale and wisdome in the heart of our most excellent soueraine the Queene other in authoritie vnder her to represse those fantasticall and erronious spirits being indeed the true succession of those ancient Catharists Puritans who thought themselues not to sinne but actually to bee possessed with absolute holinesse and purenesse For so those thinke of themselues and plainly affirme it of their illuminate elders But howsoeuer they seduce some goodly and zealous men women of honest and godly conuersation placing them at the porch of their Synagogue to make a shewe of holinesse and to stand there as baites and stalles to deceiue others yet alas who can without blushing vtter the shame that is committed in the inwarde roomes and as it were in the heart of that Synagogue of Satan These are the things I haue thought touching the booke and a testimonie of my greate ioy touching the same And besides the good I haue already noted this confutation shal testifie to all ages at large that the blessed gouernment of our gratious soueraigne the Queenes maiestie suffereth neither Papists nor other heretiques to goe vncōfuted or vnpunished howsoeuer first in great abundance of singular clemencie it pleaseth her to seeke their saluation draw on their effectuall conuersation Which blessed fruite of that singular clemencie the Lord God graunt in Christ Iesus and a perfect peace to this Church for euer Amen Yours assuredly in the Lorde W. C. ¶ A Confutation of monstrous and horrible heresies taught by H. N. and imbraced of a number who call them selues the Familie of Loue. ¶ The Title
that which is deliuered touching this matter in the holy scriptures In the Scripture we doe reade of one man by name Adam the first offendour among men heere is no mention made of any one man but the blame is wholy after his accustomed obscure and dark dealing put ouer vnto to a generall and confused notion which is called of him the man and that his the man is no one man it appeareth by that which was euen nowe alleaged out of the fourth Chapter For no one man hath continued from the beginning vntyll this day to receiue continuall mercies from the Lorde And you haue hearde that hee saith wee will declare from the time foorth of the falling away or disobedience of the man the earnest loue which God hath alwaies vntill this same day shewed towardes the man It is playne therefore that his the man is set heere to hide an horrible errour to wit the mankinde hath no common harme from any one man For he is perswaded that we haue no infection from any man otherwise then so so farre foorth as we shal in doing the like euil become folowers of that man So that by his doctrine any euill man may be an occasion of as great hurt vnto vs as was Adam In the Scripture wee doe reade of one principal offendour we do likewise reade there of one particular yet principal offence to wit the eating of the forbidden fruit which brought the gilte of condemnation vpon al. This authour deliuereth that point of the particular offēce in like maner generally vnto vs in these woordes The man from the beginning fel away from or was disobedient vnto the woorde of his God the vpright life of his true light Some not of the least among that familie with whom I haue had conference according to this doctrine of H. N. haue in plaine speache told me that there was no material tree neither was it any material fruite that Adam did eate but that Adam was therfore said to eate of the tree of knowledge of good and euil because in transgressing the will of GOD Adam mingled euill with that goodnesse which was in him and so was founde to haue doone euill aswell as good When this familie doth not acknowledge this particular offence it followeth necessarily that they shoulde bee altogeather ignoraunt both of the number vnto howe many that infection reacheth and also of the daunger thereof growing vnto the same In the woorde of God it is plaine especially in the Epistle vnto the Romanes That one offence brought condemnation vpon all men Where one offence of one offendour is set against one righteousnesse of one righteous man Iesus Christe For as Adam was the spring from whence flowed corruption vnto all and in whose offence wee all had offended as being a part or parcell of him closed vp within his loines so Christ in like maner is the roote of all righteousnesse in whose obedience all the faithful are founde innocent and reckoned as righteous before the Lorde The doctrine which deliuereth vnto vs how daungerous a disease wee haue from Adam is a chiefe point of our religion that doth principally concerne vs For the disease is so daungerous that it doeth infect vnto death bringing with it condemnation and so vniuersal that it denieth priuilege vnto any scattering deadly poyson euery where and ouer all And therefore if H. N. were sounde in all other points of religion yet this one errour of his touching originall sinne were sufficient to cut him of as a rotten member from the Churche of Christe vntill hee shoulde confesse his faulte renounce this his heresie and with the Church of GOD professe the trueth of that doctrine which touching Originall sinne is deliuered vnto vs in the worde of god The infection that commeth by Adam is not an euil without vs not able otherwise to harme vs then when we shall drawe so neare as that i● may breathe vpon vs but an inward infection that dwelleth within vs which woulde both counsaile and and practise wickednes though there were no former example thereof through the whole worlde When the Apostle saith that he was by nature the childe of wrath as wel as others He semeth to finde a fountaine of sinne in nature as nowe it is corrupt in Adam but not to charge any man or men by euil example of life to haue beene the occasion of that wrath and curse of god So that infection of nature not imitation of example is the grounde of all our griefe Euill beeyng so neare vnto vs as is our nature hath the credite with vs of our best and next neighbour before wee be warned of it by the word not the light regarde which is commonly had of a forener and stranger But the word teacheth that it ought not lightly to feare vs as an enimie without vs against whom are shutte the gates of all our hartes aswell as of our holdes And casteth so great care vpon vs to withstand it as is required to driue out an enimie already within our gates and possessed of our strongest holdes Let H. N. therefore haue that credite and entertainement with all good Christians that hee deserueth who certifieth of our enimie that hee is yet in his owne lande when hee hath entred our chiefe cities and walled townes Or let his fees bee the same with those counsellours by whose aduise all our munition is sent into foraine Countreies to war vpon them when before they are priuie that subiectes are redy to rise vp and rebel in our owne lande In Leuiticus there was enioyned vnto euery woman which had brought forth seed and borne a childe that she should bring vnto the Priest a sinne offering after the daies of her purifiyng were expired to the ende he might make an attonemēt for her so purge her of her blood A notable example to let vs see the spring of sinne that wee may be humbled in our vncleanenesse and being discharged of hypocrisie may consider how lowly we ought to be in our owne eyes whose birth is so polluted that our mothers become therwith all fouly slained Let vs therefore say with Iob not in impaciencie against the Lord but in all humbling of our selues Who can bring a cleane thing out of filthinesse Let vs likewise with Dauid Who came not in hipocrisie excusing him selfe to accuse his mother but in humilitie to condemne him selfe that hee might be pardoned of the Lord confesse that our mothers haue warmed vs in sin and that we haue been borne in iniquitie Let vs begin at the head and hide nothing from the Lorde So shall our conscience be cleared and our prouision made in trueth for assured peace As for that question common to the Papistes with the familie of Loue howe this infection is conueighed from Adam into his posteritie Whether by the body or by the soule seeing thus much is plaine by the scriptures that there it is And from Adam
A Confutation of monstrous and horrible heresies taught by H. N. and embraced of a number who call themselues the Familie of Loue. by I. Knewstub Ephe. 4.14.15 Henceforth let vs be no more children vvauering and caried about vvith euerie vvind of doctrine by the deceit of men and vvith craftinesse vvhereby they lay in vvaite to deceiue But let vs follovv the truth in loue and in all thinges grovv vp into him vvhich is the head that is Christ Seene and allowed according to the Queenes Maiesties Iniunctions ¶ Imprinted in London at the three Cranes in the Vine-tree by Thomas Dawson for Richard Sergier 1579. To the right honorable his very good Lord and Maister Ambrose Earle of Warwick maister of her maiesties Ordinance Knight of the noble order of the Garter and one of her highnesse moste honorable priuie Councel Iohn Knewstub wisheth increase of all true happinesse and honour with the continuall comfort of a good conscience GReate haue beene those harmes right honorable and my very good Lord which the Church of God in euery age hath suffred at the hands of straungers open enemies vnto the trueth but yet nothing so grieuous as that hurte which she hath frō time to time had at home by some who haue long layen in her owne bosome and as Children beene serued from her owne table For as ciuill warre is alwayes more dangerous then foraine force So the enemyes within the church be they who of al other deale with greatest danger against the Church Against the force of an open enimy we haue the strength of a double wall the credite of a cause for Religion the concorde of our mindes But these walles are wanting when the Church dealeth against enimyes gone out from her which sometimes haue been of her For touching the cause of religion they wil be equall with vs touching the points wherin we differ they may be thought euen of some who are no sworne enemyes vnto Religion if matters be not very wisely with great iudgemēt examined to ouermatch vs For the continuance of friendship as they pretend vnto Religion seemeth to assure vs that their profiting in knowledge and iudgement and no other cause hath moued them aswell to be diuers from them selues as to departe from vs As for the professed enemie he is more hardened against our cause and better armed against our selues when he seeth the cause it selfe as it were parted by opinion and vs deuided from our selues in affection These enemyes of the Church do both strengthen the enemies arme abrode and also discourage the friendes at home yet hath the true Church alwayes beene subiect to this tryal euen when Doctrine was moste pure and pastors most painfull Was not Moses in his time troubled with Iannes and Iambres Paule in his time with Hymenaeus and Phyletus Iohn the Euangelist with a multitude of Antichristes and yet I thinke no man dare take exception either against the puritie of doctrine at those times or against the trauell paynes of those persons Neyther haue we onely examples to tell vs it hath bene so but doctrine left in the Church to tel vs that it must be so There were false Prophetes among the people sayeth Saint Peter euen as there shall bee false teachers among you which priuily shall bring in damnable Heresies denying the Lorde that hath bought them There muste bee heresies sayeth Saint Paule euen among you that they which are proued among you may be knowne The causes why it must be thus with the Church doe I finde in the scripture to be these that the good may bee tried and knowne the wicked foūd out punished The good are tried whether they loue the Lord aswel by their affection towarde the doctrine of Christe as by their fruits of conuersation For there is no man that loueth an other who is not studious of his disposition to knowe what is well liked of him and acceptable vnto him that he may serue his humour and be set a woorke to his good liking and pleasure So that hee who hath bestowed no study that way either is not otherwise setled in iudgement or moued with affection but that euery seducer may deceiue him doeth plainely declare therein that he beareth no loue towards him Punishment is executed against the wicked either by giuing them vp into heresies and erronious opinions for that hauinge the trueth in knowledge they made no conscience of it neither in affection did beare any loue towarde it either else because not submitting them selues to the simplicitie of the word they haue desired to be fed with curious questions matters of witte and subtile speculations Of both those offences we are not onely warned off by the doctrine of the woorde but also by the heauy iudgement of God which did fall vpon certaine offenders herein whereof there is expresse menciō made in the word Great is the grossenes thē of the Papists who therfore stūble at the true church because some proue heretiques that haue beene brought vp in the bosome therof as if they had neuer red this in the Scripture spoken in the person of the Church They went out from vs but they were not of vs for if they had beene of vs they woulde haue continued with vs but greater is the carelessenesse of many that would be accounted Christians who notwithstanding all these heauie examples and visible warnings of Gods wrath bee not touched for all that with care to ioyne conscience vnto knowledge and to let a good iudgement haue the honour of a louing affection alwayes waiting vpon it May professors of the trueth now possibly bee any longer satisfied with bare profession when the almightie hath alredy takē the reuengmēt therof into his own hands begun to driue such out of their dennes to hunt them out of their lurking holes and not to leaue them before hee haue brought their deserued iudgement of palpable blindenesse vpon them so that we se them before our eyes glory in their shame and put vpon them as a garment of honour the couering of confusion therefore the punishment of God fallen now visibly vpon this family is the iudgement of bare professors and carnal Gospellers In these persons they al are arrained found giltie iudged Now haue we learned by tryall experience that the Gospel disdaineth the sole attendance of our knowledge and looketh to bee receiued in like manner with a good heart and friendly affection And good cause and reason there is why it should be so for who is so meane amongst men that would be content with this entertainmēt amongst his friendes if at his comming to them they would vouchsafe to name him and take knowledge that they had seene him And is not this the best welcome that many in these dayes doe make the Gospel they are content to speake to it take knowledge of it but they are but a few that so friendly do entertaine
this vermin For besides their pride whereby they haue sought them selues a title apart from others what an intollerable arrogancie is it to leaue the titles of the scripture for a liking they haue to those of their owne forge For if they would needes single themselues by a seuerall name why tooke they not the name of the householde of fayth mencioned in the Scripture rather then the name of the householde of Loue wherof there is no such mention The same or not vnlike iudgement of their strange phrases wherewith they apparell and set foorth their straūge opinions deuises that to those which haue their sences wel inured to discerne of doctrines it will be as easy thereby to discry their new learning as it is to know an outlandish man by his toung or speach For they are so swelling as if they had feared least they should not haue beene sufficiently knowen to bee of those deceiuers which the Apostles Saint Peter and S. Iude haue marked out vnlesse they had shewed vs this brande which the holie Apostles did set vpon their tounges Albeit to say the trueth in this manner of handeling there is not more pride then crafte and deceite For therefore no doubt doe they so farre passe and exceede the measure of the common speach that the ruder sorte not able to vnderstand them beeing astonied might be as it were hanged in an admiration of them Whereof if I should giue you a paterne I could not doe it more aptely then in sending you to the gibberish of our Rogues or of the counterfait sort of Egyptians which were woonte to haue a speciall chat wherewithall they amazed the simple men whilest they drewe them into their nettes Whatsoeuer it is it is most vnlike the language of the holie spirit of god For in steede that it doeth vtter graue and high matters in a lowe and familiar stile they set forth their trifling and halfepeny doctrines with loftie and high phrases of speech Nowe it remayneth that for the glory of God so shamefully defaced for the trueth so slaunderously reported for the Church so grieuously stricken for the common wealth presently wounded further hazarded that all those to whome the Lord hath giuen any meanes of stopping this gap where at his wrath hath thus broken in vpon vs make hast to the rescue of the trueth and resistance of the euill First of all therefore we must all humble our selues vnder the reuenging hand of GOD in prayer and fasting in sackcloth and ashes that if by standing before the Iudge and confessing our giltinesse of crime wee doe put the halter as it were aboute our owne necks hee may peraduenture haue compassion on vs and repente him bothe of this and other the euils which hee threateneth against vs The exercise whereof ought without all controuersie to bee publike to the end that the Church with all hir Children together lying prostrate before his Maiestie all their cryes complaints at once sent vp may so ring in his eares as that he may be the rather moued to pittie towardes her But if it be holden out from the publike assemblyes then the Lorde casteth this charge of sanctifying a fast vppon priuate and common houses And if the priuate houses bee sparred against it through their carelesse Maisters yet let euery faithfull person who trembleth and quaketh when the Lorde roareth take him to his Chamber for the humbling and submitting of himselfe before his GOD. Then her Maiestie is heere moste humbly to bee desired that that God which hath preserued her royall person vnto the crowne and in the crowne from all the treasons intended against her may haue her sword or rather his owne swoorde committed vnto her drawne vppon these horrible treasons which are in a high hand committed directly against his own person to the launchinge of such as are curable and to the quite cutting off of those that are desperate the Captaines especially Her moste honourable Councel is likewise most humbly to be desired that they would so croude vp other their weightie and graue consultations that this also which in weightinesse giueth place but vnto few may haue the rowme that it deserueth Namely how her Maiesties Swoorde may be most coningly and rightly handeled for the speediest and effectuallest riddaunce heereof Her worshipfull Iustices and other inferiour Magistrates that they would so diligently waite vppon the execution as that they remember that the greater hast they make against them the greater stay the Lorde will make in his iudgement against vs The carefull ministers of the land that they would not onely labour to kepe their flockes from the contagion of this pestilence but seek also to pull such out of the fire as through simple ignorance haue fallen into it The godly people that they would remember dayly so to commend the good successe of both the ministeries of the worde and of the sworde vnto the Lord that the prospering in the subduing of this detestable heresy it may by continuance of a godly peace go well with them and theirs after them So shall not onely the euill it selfe but also the slaunderous charges against the Gospel be cleane wiped away whilest the heresies which sprang without the fault of the Gospel shall be remooued by the power of the Gospel whilst the euils which rose through the sleepinesse of some of the professors shall be put downe through the watchfulnesse of them all whilest finally this heresie being of some confuted of other some punished prayed against of all the Gospell may haue a greater triumph in the conquest of this heresie then if it had neuer beene inuaded by it FINIS The iudgement of a godly learned man touching this matter sent mee in a Letter WHen I did first heare that you had taken in hand a confutation of the heresie or rather of the heape of heresies which some yeeres past comming out of Dutchland arriued in Englande and receiued in many places secret but dangerous and yet too too safe entertainment I did rather feare an euil then hope for a good issue of that your godly labour For considering first the dark and deceauing words the new phrases and blasphemous allegoryes wherwith the Family of Loue fill their bookes which speaches may be expounded thus if they will and otherwise if they liste chaunging with euery change of person in that family as he is more or lesse vrged or able to answere or as may most deceiue or auoyde a mischief Secondarily noting that they deny principles and groundes of Religion scorning the ground of all grounds the most holy Scriptures of God that in the most holy poyntes touching the person and offices of Christ Iesus our iustification and sanctification thirdly finding that they haue a double hart a chaungeable tounge renouncing and recanting before Magistrates and vpon their commaundement before the world that they maintained and are resolued notwithstanding to maintaine still in sworne obedience to H.N. according to
which H. N. claimeth vnto himselfe in the first Chapter of his booke intituled Euangelium Regni The Gospel and ioyfull message of the kingdome H. N. Through the grace and mercie of God and through the holy spirite of the loue of Iesu Christe raised vp by the highest GOD from the death according to the prouidence of God and his promises annoynted with the holie Ghoste in the olde age of the holy vnderstanding of Iesu Christe Godded with God in the spirite of his loue made heyre with Christe in the heauenlye goodes of the riches of God illuminated in the spirite with the heauenly trueth the true light of the perfect Beyng elected to a Minister of the gracious woorde which is nowe in the laste time raysed vp by God according to his promises in the moste holy seruice of God vnder the obedience of his loue Answere THE first thing that H. N. would perswade vs is that God hath raised him from the dead or to vse his owne wordes that he is raised vp by the most highest God from the death For confirmation hereof hee alleageth the sixt of Iohn the 17. of the Actes and the seconde to the Ephesians For he wil not seeme to say that thing which two or three shall not be redy to witnesse with hym VVe are therefore to heare what these can say to that point In the sixt of Iohn he directeth vs by this letter f vnto this Scripture conteyned in the 54. verse Whosoeuer eateth my flesh drinketh my blood hath eternal life and I will raise him vp at the last day Heere is a promise made vnto all true christians for they onely haue their hartes prepared by faith to digest the flesh and blood of Christe that the Lorde will raise them vppe at the laste day which wee call the day of iudgement and the seconde comming of Christe The promise I graunt is past but the day taken to performe the couenant is yet to come For by the promise it is playne that wee may not looke to haue the matter perfourmed before the laste day which is the seconde comming of Christe I wil not here call it into question whether H. N. be one of them who eate his fleshe and drinke his blood that shall go as graunted at this time onely this I will saye that hee is to begge shamefully who with no other helpe then that hee hath from hence shall obteine so muche as a place among the common sorte of Christians but hee that will vppon this warrant deale as a Prophete and Teacher in the Churche It cannot be excused but that he doeth felloniously enter breake in and steale For there is no colour of anie good title to bee shewed for the same Now I pray you consider of his argument which is this The Lorde will raise vppe all his faithfull at the last day and therefore H. N. is already risen from the dead The matter is established as doone but the grounde is no other then a graunt and promise made in expresse woordes for the time yet to come For our Sauiour Christe sayth playnely that hee will raise them vp at the laste day Where there is not only noted a time to come but of that time also the laste and furthest day is taken and yet yee see that H. N. will haue the matter to be alreadie accomplished in him selfe and that not otherwise then by vertue of this promise Let that bee graunted which H. N hath begged and let his felonious acte for once bee pardoned yet hath hee proceeded no farther in proofe then that hee ought to be taken as a Prophet risen from the dead with condition to wit if that the day of iuddgemēt alredy be past The Lord open the eies of his familie leaste as hee is no Prophet vnlesse that bee paste which is yet to come so they in like maner become no true Christians before that which is for euer past heereafter shall come If the cause of suche confusion bee demaunded this it is He expoundeth the doctrine of our resurrection Allegorically and taketh it to be nothing els but to ryse in our iudgemente and affection from the likyng of all other too the embracing of his doctrine and religion And therefore the day of iudgement which wee looke for is in his opinion already come because the troumpe of his doctrine now soundeth which woorketh this his spiritual resurrection The confutation whereof you shall God willing haue more at large heereafter and yet there is sufficient euen in this place aleadged by him to ouerthrowe it For speaking of the children of GOD who are true Christians possessed by fayth of eternall life and therefore already rysen from the dead because to rise from errour to the imbrasing of the trueth which hee taketh his owne doctrine too bee is with him the rising from the dead euen of those hee sayth I will rayse them vp in the last day appoynting an other resurrection yet to come for those who by a true faith haue alredy taken holde of that spiritual rising from darknesse to light from sinne and iniquitie to righteousnesse and true christianitie If his best bulwarke appointed to beare of the first and greatest assault that shal be made against him bee thus weake there is good hope it wil be no great woorke too winne the hold it selfe His seconde confirmation is taken out of the Acts 17. verse 31. The woordes be these God wil iudge the worlde in righteousnesse by that man whom he hath appointed whereof he hath geuen assurance vnto al in that he hath raised him from the dead A place proper and peculiar vnto Christe alone whom God the father hath raised from corporall death to be an assuraunce vnto vs that hee is the man appointed who shal iudge the world in righteousnesse at the latter day There can be no other place more peculiar and proper vnto Christe then is this whereunto for all that H. N. wil be entituled Notwithstanding yf the woorde of GOD haue geuen it vnto him good reason hee shoulde enioy it Let it therfore bee considered what he hath saide for it This is his reason GOD hath geuen vs assuraunce that hee will iudge the world in righteousnesse by the man Christ in that hee hath raysed hym from the dead therefore H. N. is alreadie risen from the dead If H. N. bee Christ it foloweth necessarily though not by force of this argument yet by sufficient strength from the trueth of the matter it selfe that he shoulde be rysen from the dead because hee is the same person of whom it is sayde that he is already risen from the dead to assure vs of the last iudgement that it shal be holden by him selfe But if H.N. bee anie thing beside Christe there is no maner of helpe to bee had from this place For hee speaketh playnely heere of the bodyly death of Christe him selfe As for the affinitie betweene H. N. and Christe howe
perceiue it not palpable was that blindnesse of the men of Ashdod who ceassed not to worship their God Dagon notwithstāding they did see him fallen before the Arke his head lying a parte from his bodie But yet this familie doth farre passe them for they doe bring into the worlde and woorship here as God one H. N who is not remoued a little from his head but vtterly without any head iudgement or sense at all his proofes being generally such as reason and iudgement doe vtterly renounce The Lorde in mercie keepe vs from those sinnes which in due desert doe so close vp our eyes as wee can see no thing at high noone day An other Title which he taketh vpon himselfe is that he is annoynted with the holie Ghoste in the olde age of the holy vnderstanding of Iesu Christ This title he claimeth to be giuen him from the Apostle in the 4. chapter to the Ephesians verse 13. Where the Apostle speaking of the diuersitie of giftes that were in the Church saieth God hath geuen some to bee Apostles some Prophetes some Euangelistes some Pastors and teachers for the gathering together of the saintes c. giuing the reason withall to witte that wee might growe vp to be men in Christ and to be no longer as children readie to bee carried away with euerie winde of doctrine Hee telleth vs then what a good order the Lord hath left in his Church to keepe vs from the daunger of errour and to make vs like men growne to bee strongly stayed in the trueth But we heare nothing what speciall successe this ordinance of the Lord hath had with H N. For what a reason is this Apostles Pastours are giuen of God to keepe his Church from errour and to make them as men strong and stayed in the trueth and therefore H. N. is strongly stayed in the trueth or as it liketh him rather to speake therefore H. N. is annointed with the holy ghost in the olde age of the holy vnderstanding of Iesus Christ Vpon order taken for procuring things to be done H. N. will necessarily enforce that the same are done He might with as good reason say that because there is a law in this lande against theft therefore euerie man liueth iustly and truely of his owne and there is not a theefe to be heard of in this realme For vpon no other warrant then this that order is left in the Church to keepe men staied and strong in the trueth H. N. wil inferre it must of necessitie be that himselfe is stayed in that trueth He proceedeth further in his titles as not taking himselfe sufficiently commended hitherto and affirmeth that he is godded with God in the spirit of his loue and referreth vs for the triall of this title vnto the 21. Chapter of the Reuelation and third verse as vnto the best euidence that he can bring and therefore he hath dealt wisely to leaue the other chapters without anie specialtie In this place the state of the godly is described what it shall be in the life to come to wit that they shall be glorified enioy the presence of their God being freed frō all griefe and paine The wordes of the text be these I heard a great voice out of heauen saying behold the tabernacle of God with men he wil dwel with them they shal be his people God himself shal be their God with thē God shal wipe all teares frō their eyes and there shal be no more death neither sorow neither pain Because it is sayd in the text that God shall be their God with them so that they shall enioy his glorious presence whereas albeit he bee nowe their GOD yet he is not their GOD with them in that glorie which accompanieth the presence of his Maiestie H.N. reasoneth thus God shall be God with his people and therefore H. N. is GOD with God or godded with god It asketh no paines of me in manie woordes to set these two partes asunder that is perfourmed in the same labour that bringeth them togither For it is neuer better seene how white and blacke differ then when they come once to be vewed the one with the other Can not God haue licence to dwell with his people in the life to come except before there shal passe a graunt to H.N. to bee godded or made God with God here in this life or if there were any such compact doeth this place prooue it that hath not so much as a sillable sounding that way Can not God be with them but therevpon it must follow that they bee Godded with him If there were any such thing in trueth as God willing it shal hereafter appeare there cannot be yet this place doth not so much as with a good countenaunce comforte him therein The place being so direct for our comfort in the life to come and for all that by him included within the limits of this life telleth vs that he hath not yet chaunged his iudgement touching euerlasting life but that here in his opinion all that is to be hoped for must be had As for the title it self to be godded with God it is a blasphemie not to be borne And the place from whence they drawe it will not suffer it to bee hidde vnder the proprietie of the Dutche tongue In the next title he challengeth againe that which is proper and peculiar onely vnto Christ in that he is God that is to be the true light of the perfect being For in that place wherevnto hee appealeth for defence after a plaine deniall of Iohn the Baptist to bee the true light it is verified of Christ That he was the true light which lighteneth euerie man that commeth into the worlde Giuing him this prerogatiue aboue Angels and all creatures that hee is the true light shining of and in himselfe whereas all other borow their brightnesse of him What will this man bee ashamed of who dare to say of himselfe that he is that true light which lighteneth euerie man that commeth into the worlde for so be the very wordes of that place wherevnto he sendeth vs what can bee more blasphemous then to lay claime to that which belongeth not vnto Christ himselfe but onely in respect of his Godhead This blasphemie is yet more euident in that which foloweth For there it is thus written God is light and in him is no darkenesse at all therevpon H. N. concludeth himselfe to be the true light These blasphemies if a man should deale with them in desert are rather by open execration to be repelled then to haue the honour of anie entertainment though not otherwise then by confutation Thus much of his person Nowe to his office Touching his office he sayth that he is elected to bee a minister of the gracious worde which is nowe in the last time raised vp by God according to his promises He bringeth nothing for proofe of this his election but passeth it ouer
as a matter out of doubt and yet might it well bee that the woorde whereof hee is a Minister were a gracious woorde as hee calleth it and for all that his election therevnto neither good nor gracious But woulde you heare what this gracious woorde is according as the Prophet testifieth of it Surely it is no other thing then euen now to bring vs the first newes of a matter done and past manie hundreth yeares agoe to witte that Iuda and Ierusalem shoulde bee inhabited againe by the Iewes after the captiuitie of Babilon In the place which he alledgeth out of the Prophete it is written thus Thus saith the Lord againe there shall be heard in this place which ye say shal be desolate without mā without beast euē in the cities of Iuda and the streetes of Ierusalem the voice of ioy and the voice of gladnesse the voice of the bridegrome the voice of the bride For I will cause to returne the captiuitie of the land as at the first The Iewes are cōforted by the prophet with this promise frō the Lord that they shal returne frō their captiuity and inhabite Iuda and Ierusalem with comfort and ioy of heart For saith he there shall be heard in your streetes the voice of ioy gladnes the voice of the bridegrome and the voice of the bride H.N. might well haue stayed among the dead neuer haue striuen so much about his resurrection from among them if he haue no other message then this for they are dead many hundreth yeares agoe to whom this matter did apperteine It is plaine therefore by his own testimonie that he hath no authority to deale with vs but with Iuda Ierusalem nor to bring anie doctrine into the world touching euerlasting saluation but onely cōcerning a temporall deliuerance neither to haue any thing to doe with men nowe liuing but with people long before this time deade Thus much in particular both touching his person and his office For his title in generall I haue to say that this title which is so ample and glorious being compared with the preface of the Apostles set before their writings wil soone discrie the diuersitie of spirits They dispatch vs touching the knowledge of themselues in the words of Seruant Apostle whē they stand the longest with vs vpō that matter By seruant declaring what they hold in common with all Christians by Apostle what they haue special in the function ministerie of the word Paul a seruāt of Iesus Christ called to be an Apostle Simon Peter a seruāt an Apostle of Iesus Christ And somtimes they are so sparing that they wil not spend both vpon vs. Iames a seruant of God and of the Lord Iesus Christ Peter an Apostle of Iesus Christ Iude a seruant of Iesus Christ But H. N. as if he could no longer beare such basenesse steppeth in before them with his stately stile and sayth H.N. Through the grace and mercie of God and through the holy spirite of the loue of Iesus Christ Raised vp by the highest God from the death according to the prouidence of God and his promises Anointed with the holy Ghost in the olde age of the holy vnderstanding of Iesus Christ Godded with God in the spirit of his loue Made heire with Christ in the heauenly goodes of the riches of God Illuminated in the spirite with the heauenly truth The true light of the perfect being Elected to a minister of the gracious worde which is now in the last time raised vp by God according to his promises in the most holy seruice of god vnder the obediēce of his loue What man measuring the matter by the outwarde face that is set vpon it would thinke the Apostles worthie to hold the candle to this mans cunning And what friend of theirs if H.N. would take vpon him to teach them the depth of his diuinitie would once seeme to offer with them lesse then the seruice of vii yeres Neither is there so great oddes betweene them in the multitude of titles as in the magnificence and dignitie of them How plain simple and farre from pride be the names of seruant Apostle How glorious swelling magnificēt be these speches Godded with God annointed with the holy Ghost in the olde age of the holy vnderstanding illuminated in the spirit the true light of the perfect being raised vp by the highest God frō the dead But no meruaile if H. N. be so glorious in titles for this he hath in common with the Heretikes of all times The Montanists who had their name beginning of Montanus the first heretike that practised to draw on disciples by procuring stipend and wages from the richer sorte of that sect to others the teachers and mainteyners thereof which was a baite that brought many to bite of those morsels and therefore vpon good consideration is nowe a freshe practised in this familie where there is so great famine of better arguments to perswade with all did affirme that they were wiser then the Apostles and alledged that place of the Apostle for it where Paule setting him selfe in the number with other sayeth We knowe in part For they mainteyned an absolute cleare and perfect reuelation in themselues affirming Montanus to be the holy Ghost promised to the Church whereof the Apostles had receyued but a little measure There were also a sect of people in that part of Pisidia which belongeth vnto Pamphilia who refused to receiue any into their felowship and communion that kept anie thing priuate and proper to themselues excluding them as straungers from the kingdome of God and they would be called Apostolici Apostolicall and be knowne by no other name Seruetus the heretike called himselfe Michael the keeper of the Church of God and the great prince of his people Dauid George H. N. his Schoole-maister though the scholer setting vp for himselfe will now take no more knowledge of anie maister or superiour calleth himselfe the seuenth Angell of GOD and the last trumpe And H. N. the father of this familie will bee godded with GOD and become the true light of the perfect being that in no wise hee might seeme to want that badge of boasting which is so speciall and proper vnto heretikes That which is commonly sayd of pictures and painted workes hath a fitte place in these workes of H.N. Picturae atque imagines eminùs non cominùs videndae Pictures and Images they are faire a farre off but if the eye drawe neare them there is then no sight or shew of them If a man looke at the diuinitie that is heere deliuered a farre off he would thinke it came from aboue the hiest heauen so great and goodly speaches of loue and peace be conteyned in it But come neare and lay it to the line of God his worde and beside that the lowest pit of hell shall not be able to afoorde worse wares then some that here be vttered It would
as a thing vnneedefull not once distincting vnto whom the seruice after the ordinaunce of Aaron is yet necessary nor yet with whom the same at the appoynted time ceaseth or leaueth of but haue al for the most parte cried Christ Christ and we are Christians and attributed to themselues much freedome ere euer the time of the appearing of Christ or the annointing of the holy Ghost was come to passe or fulfilled with them in the accomplishing of the olde Testament Oh that they yet nowe awaked and tooke heede in the woorde of the seruice of loue vnto this gratious time and gaue eare vnto the same that they might vnderstande their safemaking and so then bee rightly and according to the trueth brought to the true beyng that is vnto Christ You heare that hee complayneth greately of the Scripture learned that they haue altogether and generally leaste the Leuiticall Priesshoode and seruice after the ordinaunce of Aaron forbidding it vnto all without exception when as the time of the appearing of Christ is not yet come to passe with many because they haue not taken heede in the woorde of the seruice of loue vnto this gracious time and therefore hee wisheth in the tenth Section that they yet woulde nowe awake and take heede in the woorde of the seruice of loue vnto this gratious time that so they might rightly and acording to the trueth bee brought to the true beyng that is as he saieth vnto Christ for these be his owne woordes in this place And so then be rightly and according to the truth brought vnto the true beeing that is vnto Christ So that nowe you see clerely by receiuing effectually this his doctrine men are made that true light whereof he spake before in this chapter when as he saide And this same true light is the annoynted with the holy Ghost which is named in Hebrue Messias and in Greeke Christus In the sixth Section hee declareth when men may be saide to come to this true being and perfection which he calleth Christ To witte when the law and seruices doe chaunge with the beleeuers out of the letter and seruiceable woorde into the reuealing of the holie spirite of Christ For then as hee sayeth in that Section The honourable Priest is come vnto them who teacheth not after the maner of Aaron by requiring them yet to obserue the will or righteousnes of the law but after the maner of Melchisedech bringing with him the blessing the accōplishing of the law the saluation of life the annointing of the holy Ghost these be his words Where now thē the law the seruices do in such wise change by the beleeuers of the annointed to witte out of the figures into the true beeing and out of the letter and seruiceable worde into the reuealing of the holy spirite of Christ there is also then by these same the Priest his office chaunged for Christ the honourable Priest cōmeth vnto them from the right hand of God the Father out of the heauenly beeyng which hath or vseth not his seruice after the maner or ordināce of Aaron which is yet a teaching and requiring to obserue the will or the righteousnesse of the lawe of the Lorde but after the maner or ordinance of Melchisedech with bringeth with him the blessing the accomplishing of the lawe or of the Lorde his will the saluation of life and the annointing of the holy Ghost to a pleadge of the godly inheritance to an euerlasting treasure or riches of God and reigneth in the righteousnes of the same See the miserie of this mischiefe hee will haue Christ to bee an estate in man which leaueth the written woorde which hee calleth the letter and hearkeneth wholly to the reuelation of the spirit which banisheth Aaron that is that estate which is carefull to doe the will and commaundementes of God and resteth resolued that they haue already accomplished the lawe and sinne no more And this is that true seede of promise whereof wee heard before out of the eightienth chapter of this booke which is not as he sayeth conceiued of the fleshe but of the holy Ghost through the power of the most highest in the beleefe this seede out of the faith of Abraham also of the pure virgin Marie is as he saith in that place the true seede of the promise to the blessing of all generations of the earth And this seede he calleth the vpright children of the beliefe Albeit I haue set downe the wordes before yet it shall not be amisse to recite the place againe worde for worde as it lieth there Consider ye beloued howe that there is shewed vnto vs and geuen vs to vnderstand through the speches of the Angel Gabriel which he vsed with Mary that at the same time when the holy Ghost came through the power of the most highest vpon the Virgin Marie and procreated the true seede of promise the time of the procreating of the seede of Abraham according to the fleshe turned it selfe about to wit that the holy and true seede of Abraham should not from thenceforth be conceiued of the flesh but of the holy Ghost through the power of the most highest in the belief that the same should euē so be borne out of the true faith of Abrahā for the seed out of the faith of Abraham out of the pure virgin Mary is the true seed of promise to the blessing of all generations of the earth And thus from that time foorth the Genealogie of the seede of Abraham according to the fleshe ceassed with the Beleeuers for the vpright children of the belief which had their discent out of the seed of the faith of Abraham and of the pure Virgin Mary as also frō the holie Ghost were knowē to be the true seede of Abraham because the same seede was the seede of the promise of God the Father was likewise in his minde according to the spirite the likenes of God his father also spirit spirituall of the godly nature being according to the will of God wholly minded with God. It appeareth likewise plainely in that his booke which is intituled The Prophesie of the spirit of loue chapter xv v. Section that this state of perfection which is there called the seconde birth is Christ Iesus the Lord and sauiour These be his woordes O ye holy ones of God thou louely communaltie of loue feare not but be nowe of good cheere vpon the earth against all your enimies For beholde your GOD commeth to be auenged on all your enimies for to lay them that they may bee troden downe vnder the feete of your Lorde and Sauiour Iesus Christ and euen so in your second birth out of the holy spirite of the loue of Iesus Christ to transporte or yeeld ouer the iudgement and dominion vpon the earth vnto you and your Sauiour Iesus Christ to the ende that yee with him and he with you and your sauiour Iesus Christ and with his
holy spirit shoulde from hencefoorth worlde without ende raigne with righteousnesse vpon the earth and iudge the same with equitie according to the promises When he hath affirmed that almighty God wil lay downe their enimies vnder the feete of their Lorde and Sauiour Iesus Christ foorthwith explaning that matter more he saith And euen so in your seconde birth yeelde ouer the dominion vpon the earth vnto you and your Sauiour Iesus Christ So that it appeareth playnely he taketh their second birth to be their Sauiour For when he hath mencioned their Lorde and Sauiour the next wordes that followe be these And euen so in your seconde birth c. Sometimes this name Christ in a degree of excellencie is geuen to the oldest Father in the familie of loue because he is possessed of this estate of perfection in the highest degree and greatest measure as in the 31. chapter of his Euangelie and 14. Section where speaking of the offices and functions that were in the Churche of Rome whereof he sheweth great liking as beyng figuratiue seruices of that trueth which H.N. hath newely started he saith of the parishe Priestes Therefore they were ioyned with others in the seruice of the holy worde because they let passe the childhood or the yongnes of the holy vnderstanding grew vp according to the requiring of the seruice of loue vnto the manly agednes of Christ that is vnto the true being of the oldest holiest father For these be his owne woordes in that place Where as yee heare he calleth the manly agednesse of Christ the true being of the oldest father And to confirme the same he hath these wordes in the sixteenth Section of this chapter Herevnto serue the parish Priests as to such procurators or helpers forward of the communialties for to beare a good care ouer them and to witnesse and to teach thē daily the holy vnderstāding of Christ the oldest father where as before Christe and the Eldest Father whiche is H. N. himselfe bee by apposition made one the same person Sometimes this doctrine of H.N. for that it teacheth this state of perfectiō which is Christ leadeth men thervnto is called Christ as in the two fourtie chapter of the Gospel after H.N. and 8. Section in these words Whosoeuer now thē forsaketh himself geueth ouer himselfe obediētly in Iesu Christ the gracious word of the Lord becommeth nowe admitted or receiued in Iesu Christ and in the obedience of his requiring And likewise in his first exhortation chapter seuenth the fyrst article Section 23. in these woordes Wee confesse that no man can become partaker with all the holy ones of God of the resurrection of Christ but suche as indeuour themselues in the beliefe vnder the obedience of the loue of Iesu to become implanted into Christ the gratious worde of the Lorde and euen so then to die with Christ in his like death c. Christ and the gratious worde of the Lorde which is H. N. his doctrine are heere vnited by him and made one and the same thing which thing not onely the sense will leade you vnto but also the manner of poynting which hath no litle mystery in it For after Christ ye shall finde in his booke a full perfect point albeit the sense be yet hanging aboue the head of it there is an other point reaching forward which is a priuie marke betweene him his disciples telling them that the woorde following doth open and expounde it After the gratious woorde of the Lorde Yee see an other full and perfect point and aboue the heade of it a point looking backewarde to insinuate vnto them that the woorde behinde doeth in like manner open and declare it There is not one iodde in H.N. his Gospell that goeth for nothing For euen this Childishe toy is made a mysterie nay a miracle with manie of them Nowe whensoeuer H.N. vseth this forme of speache by Iesu Christ Hee meaneth eyther this state of perfection or else this gratious woorde of his wherein the sence will direct vs whether of the interpretations wee are to admitte off The like is to bee sayde of this forme of woordes in Iesu Christe that is in the state of perfection which his illuminate Elders doe euioy or in the gratious doctrine which hee hath brought into the worlde Christ then is nothing else but annointed and as ye haue hearde by his allegoricall exposition is geuen to all that are come to that infection he calleth it Perfection which was spoken of before to wit whē they haue done with Aaron and the seruiceable word and haue met with their Melchisedech who doth all to berubbe their heades with reuelations and as for their conuersation telleth them whatsoeuer their doinges be they are no longer now to be said or accompted to haue any sinne in them Now to colour his doings he speaketh of al the vpright children of the beliefe that are thus annointed in the singular number as of one bodie that his young disciples should not smel out his heresie at the first but remaine still of this opinion that when he speaketh of Christ hee meaneth no other beside that same one person whereof the Scripture speaketh which is both God and man Whereas in truth he comprehendeth vnder that name all that multitude or number howe many soeuer who haue to diet from H.N. this roste meate of reuelations It appeareth by this whiche hathe beene sayde that H.N. his Christ is not GOD but an affection or disposition in man which if it were good were yet no more but godlinesse not GOD himselfe But wee haue hearde manifestly prooued vnto vs before that of necessitie the mediatour and redeemer of man must be GOD himselfe And therefore this miserable man pulleth vppe the doctrine of our saluation by the rootes His doctrine of Christ is declared yet more playnely if possibly that may be in that allegory which he maketh of Esau and Iacob in the nienth Chapter of his Euangelie Where he affirmeth that the righteousnesse of the Lawe with the great knowledge of the fleshe or of the earthly being which is borne out of the letter and hath to name Adam Esau or Edom must serue the little single minded simplicitie which is borne out of the spirite or heauenly being He affirmeth in the 8. Section of that chapter That those who liue vnder the obedience of loue that is his family doe openly perceiue these two birthes in themselues The first birth is when we vnderstande the worde according to the letter and are reaching or striuing to atteine to the perfection which his illuminated elders are possessed of And this birth hee calleth in this Section The right knowledge of man out of the fleshe or letter the seede that is borne according to the fleshe and hath no inheritance in the promises And in the tenth Section hee calleth it the minde of the fleshe which is named Adam Esau or Edō the knowledge
of Christ after the flesh The second borne as he affirmeth in the eleuenth Section holdeth himselfe in stilnesse and obteyneth through the prudence of the holy Ghost the blessing of the promises In the nienth Section he calleth it the Godhead the truth Gods true being it selfe the inheritaunce of all spirituall and heauenly goodes the true seede of the beliefe that becommeth borne in vs according to the spirite inheriteth the promises of God the Father And in the twelfth Section and last line thereof hee calleth it Christ these be his woordes The seconde birth which is not minded according to the fleshe but according to the spirite of the heauenly trueth obteineth the victorie beareth rule with God and bringeth foorth the name of Israel or Christ it selfe By this which hath bene saide it appeareth euidently that H.N. his Christ is that estate of man or men which liueth as it best liketh not beyng nowe any more vnder the gouernement of the written woorde which he calleth the seruiceable letter hauing let the rayne loose vnto reuelations so that nothing shall now be good but that he thinketh to be good neither shall any thing be euill of it selfe vnlesse he iudge it to be euill For he is now the rule himself to make by his reuelation what construction soeuer he will of the worde so it be not according to the letter and naturall sence of the same for that is with him the first borne which cannot inherite the promises It shall now be now be no great hard matter by the light wee haue had from these former places to finde out the poyson that lyeth vnder the sweete wordes with he geueth Christ in his confession For confessing Christ to bee the very like beeing of God his Father wee may soone perceiue what he meaneth when hee calleth the seconde birh wherof so many be partakers as shall inherit the promises Gods true being it selfe the very like being of the Godhed it self which are his owne words in the xiii chapter of his Gospel and fifth Section Confessing likewise that God the Father by Christ hath made and accomplished all his woorke what is this more then that he attributeth in the xiii Chapter of his Gospel and thirde Section to this estate of his illuminate Elders and perfect men who bee come to the seconde birth which he calleth in that place The Lorde his Sabboth the seuenth day in the Paradice of God wherein God rested from all his workes So that then they are saide to rest as hauing accomplished all their woorkes when this their estate of perfection wherevnto he giueth this name of Christ is come vnto them And in the like sence hee saith That Christ beareth all things with the word of his power and maketh the purging of our sinnes through him selfe For that estate vnderstandeth the worde after the spirit therefore hath it in that power whereby it beareth and doth all thinges and that estate likewise freeth them from all daunger of sinne in as much as it wholly purgeth and cleanseth them from the same This so wicked horrible monstrous construction and meaning vnder so greate good words doth plainly declare that H.N. and his family are children of that great Whoore described in the seuenteenth chapter of the Reuelation which giueth foorth all her abhomination out of a Golden Cuppe H.N. The third Article 14. We beleeue that the same sonne of GOD is conceiued of the holie Ghost through the power of the moste highest and borne of the holie Virgin Mary 15 We confesse that this same sonne of God which is conceiued of the holie Ghoste and borne of the holie Virgin Mary is the true and promised seede and borne to the blessing of all generations of the earth according to the promises Answeare In this Creede so ful of new straunge matters maruel not if H.N. adde some thing new and straunge in words We say in our common Creede as of a thing paste That Iesus Christ was conceiued of the holie Ghoste In H.N. his Creede ye heare wee are taught to say as of a thing present that he is conceiued of the holie Ghoste whereby hee putteth vs in remembraunce of this newe Christ which he hath brought into the world whom because he hath imagined to be nothing else but a perfection in the minde of so many as haue bene or shall bee inheritours of the promises he cannot say that his conception is altogither paste for so often as any are brought on to that estate which H.N. setteth forth in his doctrine so often in his opinion is Christ conceiued of the holy Ghost as appeareth in the eighteenth chapter of his Euangelie which place is already set downe before and alleaged by me And albeit enough hath beene spoken to him that will vnderstand for proofe that H.N. taketh Christe to bee but a course in life and conuersation which so many attaine vnto as shall auoyde the wrath of God or as himselfe speaketh a walking in the louely beeing yet I thinke it not amisse to adde vnto the former one testimonie more because this place we now haue in hand is occupyed aboute that matter In the twelfth Chapter of his first exhortation Section 22. and 34. these be his wordes If ye wil not that the wrath of GOD should come or fall vppon you so deale faithfully before GOD and his holines and walke with your spitite in the louely and vertuous beeing fasten your minde thereto and builde your righteousnesse theron for that is an eternall fast standding foundation wheron all GOD his Prophetes and holy ones haue builded and is Christe him selfe This walking with their spirit in the louely and vertuous beeing he calleth as you heare Christ himselfe and those who keepe this course of life and walk in the louely beeing how many so euer doth he speake of heere in the singular number as of one person and one seede when he saith This same sonne of GOD which is conceiued by the holy Ghoste and borne of the holy Virgin Mary is the true and promised seede borne to the blessing of all generatiōs of the earth As also he speaketh in his Euangelie or Gospel when he saith The vpright children of the beliefe which had their discent out of the seede of the faith of Abraham and of the pure virgin Mary as also from the holie Ghoste were knowen to bee the true seede of Abraham because the same seede was the seede of the promise of GOD the father and was likewise in his minde according to the spirit the likenes of God his father also spirite and spirituall of the godly nature and beeing and according to the will of God wholly minded with God. Nowe touching the humanitie of Christe hee is so farre from thinking that Christ is a person now did take fleshe of a Virgin called Mary that woondering at the madnesse of them who haue defended that he saith thus Euangely eighteen and
shewed vnto his disciples howe or in what maner his flesh must be offered and giuen ouer to a life of men that they all euen so which in the beliefe of their safe making from their sinnes eate his flesh and followed after him euen vnto the second birth should haue the life in fulnesse in all godly clearnesse according to the spirit Behold this is the vpright Passeouer with Christ or the right supper which the vpright beleeuers disciples of Christ keepe with Christ to wit that they depart euen so with Christ out of the flesh into the spirit and out of the death or mortalitie into the eternall life of euerlasting immortalite wherethrough the sinne and all destruction becommeth vanquished This death of H.N. his Christ in the flesh is to renounce the knowledge of Christ after the letter to die vnto that and so to passe into that clearenesse of the spirite in knowledge and obedience whereto we are led by the doctrine of H.N. which he calleth that eternall life of euerlasting immortalitie wherby sinne and all destruction becommeth vanquished The maner of the death and suffering of H.N. his Christ what it is may well be conceyued by the Allegorie of Agar and Sara in the 8. Chapter of his Euangelie By Agar as hee sayeth in that place is signified the written woorde which hee calleth the seruiceable writing or letter of the beleefe By Sara a perfect estate according to H.N. his doctrine For he sayeth That so manie be her children as are borne out of the beleefe of the true being of Abraham and are growne vp in the holy and godly vnderstanding Now when the seede of Sara the free woman which before was called Christ after the spirite is borne then is Agar with her seede that is Christ after the flesh or the written word which he calleth the seruiceable writing or letter of the beleefe put away and discharged And therfore then is H.N. his Christ killed put to death whē any disciple of his hath so profited that he is now no longer led by the writtē word but altogither ruled by reuelatiō with estate as H.N. teacheth is altogither void of sin imperfection If it be required what benefite we reape from his passion and suffering because H.N. affirmeth in this place that hee hath suffered for our sinnes cause that is answered in the 20. Chap. of this first exhortation Sect. 17. For when in the 12. Section hee had exhorted his yong disciples that if they shoulde offend or as he speaketh ouerreach themselues in anie thing they shoulde not suffer themselues to bee iudged or condemned by their conscience but shoulde humble themselues to the elders or Ministers of the word in the seruice of the loue to bee instructed by them giuing the reason of his speach in the Section following hee hath these wordes For we haue in our communiaitie of the loue a true iudge Iesus Christ our Lord and King he is vnto vs in all our walking a fountaine of life and to a-making a liue of vs all against the death and the deadly venime of the sinne And continuing his speach of the same matter speaketh thus Wee haue also thorow him a dayly offering in the holiest his spiritual and true tabernacle into which holy he is gone before vs therein himself beareth our sinnes through his suffering and death of the crosse wherethrough hee sheweth or teacheth vs the vpright offering for our sinnes and prepareth for vs euen so a free entrance with him into the holy to an eternall and liuing way H.N. therefore and these illuminate elders or Ministers of the word in the seruice of Loue to whom he giueth the name of Christ and speaketh of them all as of one person are saide to suffer for our sinnes because they hauing gone before vs in the conflictes with these enemies of the louely being haue shewed vnto vs by their example the vpright offering for our sinnes And this is all the helpe wee haue from the passion death and suffering of H.N. his Christ that wee haue the way beaten before vs howe to suffer for our owne sinnes and to procure the remission of the same Which thing he testifieth likewise in the 19. Section of this chapter saying Through which daylie God seruice and offering in the holy in the taking vppe of our Crosse in the imitation of Christ in his death we obteine the remission of sinnes they be his owne woordes But I neede not to trauayle farre for proofe that this is his opinion of the benifite wee haue by Christ for euen in the woordes which do immediatly folow this place we haue in hand he affirmeth that Christ is gone before vs in the obedience of the word of his Father in reproche and contempt that we should in like maner folow after him vnder the obediēce of his loue in his death of the Crosse to the safemaking of vs from all our sinnes What blasphemie can be vttered agaynst Christ that doeth not followe this opinion of H.N. for by this docrrine H.N. by speciall prerogatiue and the illuminate elders in the seruice of loue after a seconde sort be Christ himselfe By this doctrine Christ when he was a young one had sinne and suffered the death of the Crosse for it By this doctrine we suffer the death of the Crosse for our own sinnes make the purchase thereof by our selues By this doctrine wee are released of our sinnes by imitation but not not by imputation And whether would not this heresie stretch if a man should thorowly searche the length deapth and breadth thereof seeyng that by this doctrine the historie of Christ his birth death and suffering had no trueth according to the naturall sense meaning of the letter but was only a figure of a spiritual kinde of birth death suffering which should be procured by obedience vnto this doctrine of H.N. not signifying a thing once done by one man according to the natural meaning of the woordes but a figure of a thing to bee often doone and by many according to an illegitimate and bastardely wringing of the woordes in vtterly denying the trueth of that doctrine which telleth vs that Christe hath come in the fleshe ouerthrowing both his person and office The Crosse then that H.N. his Christ died vppon was his doctrine which he calleth the beliefe and therefore as wee hearde before in the twētieth chapter he saith that he died in the beliefe And in trueth it is a doctrine that killeth the true Christ and all true Christianitie These thinges beyng considered it shal be no hard matter to discerne who is Iudas here and who be the Scribes and Pharisees that bring Christ to the death of the Crosse For who is the chiefe man to bring other to the beliefe which is the crosse whereon Christ dieth in fleshe but H N He therefore of necessitie must be Iudas And as for the illuminate elders by
necessary consequence they are the Scribes and Pharisies because they are other Ministers about this matter which likewise helpe forward the death of Christ You may see howe safe it is to leaue the naturall sense of the Scripture and to followe allegories as doeth this familie For H. N. hath walked so long this way in the beliefe leauing the certaintie of the worde that hee hath prooued himselfe to bee Iudas that betrayeth Christ and his doctrine to bee that crosse which doeth take the life from Christ Hee hath prooued that Christe was woorthie of his death and coulde not haue come to euerlasting ioy if hee had not died in the fleshe and so consequently that Iudas and the high Priestes did a verie good woorke vnto Christ himselfe in putting him to that death that the Crosse was a blessed thing and the death thereof a blessed death for Christe himselfe that Iudas and the Iewes were blessed men in that woorke of procuring Christ his death and that his life and estate before ▪ that time for his owne good and benefite did necessarily require the same that the life of Iudas and the Iewes that crucified Christ was better then the life of Christ and their estate in al respectes better then his that they walked in the wayes of life and hee in the wayes of death that they who wished and procured his death were his best friends and his mother and disciples who stoode agaynst it and councelled him otherwise were his greatest enimies and those who did in truth betray him that Christ himselfe had the greatest benefite by his owne death and shoulde haue had the greatest losse himselfe if hee had not dyed And that others shoulde haue no further benefite from his death then they receiue instruction and example by his death to suffer as he hath done the death of the Crosse Howe doeth this passion agree with that hystorie of Christ his passion which is set foorth in the Scripture The woorde of GOD reporteth this matter of Christ his passion and death not as an Allegorie or a type and figure of a truth to be accomplished but with circumstaunces of time place person and order of proceeding setteth it foorth as a true historie and the very truth it selfe of that thing which by types and Figures had beene shadowed out long before and was nowe in Christe one person and yet both GOD and man truely accomplished Wee haue an historie in the woorde of GOD touching his apprehension and the manner of proceding agaynst him before Pilate In like manner touching his death and buriall not barely and in a woorde deliuered but with al circumstances fully discharged Hee foretelleth his Disciples both of the time of his death that it shoulde bee within two dayes when his aduersaries had purposed to deferre it till after the feaste for feare of an vprore among the people and of the manner of his death A woman comming by the instinct of GOD his spirite with a boxe of very costly ointment powring it on his head as he sate at the table declare thereby that the death of his bodie and burial were at hande and not any spirituall dying in respect of sinne and imperfection which he neuer had no not in his youngnes as H.N. speaketth The chiefe Piestes the Scribes the elders of the people assēbled togither into the Hall of the highe Prieste called Caiphas consulting howe they might take Iesus by subtiltie and kill him determining that it should not be at the feast of the Passeouer for feare of vprore at which time notwithstanding the Lorde woulde haue it performed that the very time might admonishe vs that Christ was the true Paschall lambe and the true bodie of those shadowes and figures that had gone before according as the Apostle restifieth If this had beene a conspiracie of many men against their affections because they woulde not yeelde obedience to true doctrine or a type and fygure of anie suche matter why then is a thing common to so manye made speciall in the type and figure Why is there such specialtie of person in the patterne where so manie haue interest in the thing Suche choyse likewise of the daye to foreshewe a matter free and lawfull to bee done at all times and bounde to no day Why is there suche feare of displeasure from the people at one speciall time whose malice agaynst true doctrine endeth not with anie time Here Christe his Aduersaries woorke procure and in ende performe with their owne destruction his death and suffering But to conspire the death of H.N. his Christ in the fleshe is required necessarilie to their saluation and therefore the one cannot bee a type of the other Hee that betrayed Christ was one of his disciples hyred therevnto with thirtie pieces of siluer who after that hee sawe him condemned brought the monie agayne confessing that hee hadde betrayed the innocent and went and hanged him selfe and bursting asunder in the middest all his bowelles gushed out so iust and heauie was the iudgement of GOD vppon him but hee that shoulde betray H.N. his Christe in the fleshe hath for recompence euerlasting life Neyther can any passe into immortalitie but by betraying and killing of him and therefore one of these cannot bee so muche as a tipe or figure of an other muche lesse the thing it selfe Wee reade that our Sauiour Christe charged Iudas and his companie that they came with materiall weapons swordes staues as vnto a theefe to apprehend him when notwithstanding he had taught daily in the Temple and beene in their companie continually there and yet they had no power before that time whiche he telleth them was their very houre when darkenesse had power graunted to preuayle against the light for a time And the Disciple likewise who wounded the seruant of the high Priest with his sworde receiued a reproofe from Christ with this answeare That he might with a worde haue obtayned armies of Angelles from heauen in his defence but that it might not be otherwise for then the scriptures shoulde not haue beene fulfilled This declareth that the true Christ was subiect to externall force and apprehended and that he was willing to die to fulfil the Scriptures wheras otherwise he might haue had legions of Angels in his quarrell and therefore that Mathematicall Christ who suffereth in wardly in the minde of man a departure out of the letter into the spirtie hath no resemblaunce with this Christ which is here set foorth in the Scriptures When this true Christ his passion and suffering is in hande it is declared particularly and playnely howe the Scriptures which foretolde that matter and the manner of it also are verified in him who accomplished all that trueth which they foretolde and therefore can not the hystorie of him bee a foretelling or shadowing out of a truth yet to bee performed by H.N. or any other their doctrine or doinges whatsoeuer They crucifie two theeues
with him that the Scripture might be fulfilled which sayeth he was counted among the wicked they parted his apparell among them by lottes that it might bee fulfilled likewise whiche was spoken by the Prophete They parted my garments among them and vpon my vesture did they cast lottes So that it is euident hee was that true Christe in whom the Scriptures became accomplished and beside him there is none to be looked for but false Prophets and false Christes H. N. And that he likewise vnder the obediēce of the loue of his father is gone before vs therein for that wee shoulde in like manner follow after him vnder the obedience of his loue in his death of the crosse to the safemakinge of vs from our sinnes become incorporated to hym with his like death and baptized or washed vnder the obedience of the beliefe in his name or safemaking and bury euen so through the beliefe the old man which is destroying through the lustes of errour to the forgeuing and releasing of our sinnes through his name or safemaking to the end that we might euen so through Iesus Christ obteyne the renuing of our spirit and mind in an vpright life and the resurrection from the dead with Christ in the appearing of his maiestie for when as we in suche sort become incorporated as fellowe members of Christ into the bodie of Christ so is Christ then in like maner a Sauiour of his bodie or of his people from their sinnes according to the Scripture And this is the vpright christian Baptisme in the name of the Sonne and is the true forgeuenesse and purging of our sinnes through Iesus Christ Answeare THis following of Christ in his death of the Crosse which H N. requireth of vs to the safemaking of vs from our sinnes declareth that hee is as ignorant of true fruite and effect of Christ his death as before he hath bewrayed himselfe to bee of the trueth and true maner of his suffering For the death of Christ vppon the Crosse was a sacrifice for our sinne of that excellencie that it coulde not be imitated of any man and of that sufficiencie that it needed not by imitation to be reiterated According as we reade in the Epistle to the Hebrues in these words Such an high Priest it became vs to haue which is holy harmelesse vndefiled seperate from sinners and made higher thē the heauēs who needed not daily as those high Priestes to offer vppe sacrifice first for his owne sinnes and then for the peoples for that did he once when he offered vp himselfe Before hee doeth declare touching Christ the true high priest that his once offering of himself was sufficiēt for the sins of his people that he needed not as the Priestes vnder the law to offer often he telleth vs of his excellencie that he was separate frō sinners made higher then the heauens that we should cease to make any questiō seyng the person was of that dignitie why the once offering vp of himselfe shoulde be of suche force and efficacie to wipe away the sinnes of so manie This doctrine is H.N. and his family vtterly ignoraunt of they see no reason why the sacrifice and obedience of one man shoulde discharge and aunsweare for the sinnes of an other and therefore saith H.N. in this place that we likewise shoulde followe Christe in the death of his Crosse to the safemaking of vs from our sinnes when notwithstanding in playne woordes it is written that wee are sanctified by the once offering of the bodie of Iesus Christ Where it is playnely prooued that the sacrifices vnder the law were therefore conuict of imperfection and made vnable to satisfie for sinne because they were reiterated and yeare by yeare offered For as it is written in that Chapter If the sacrifices vnder the lawe had sanctified the cōmers therunto they woulde then haue ceassed to haue bene offered for where remission is of sinne there is no more offering for sinne they being once purged shoulde haue had no more conscience of sinnes So that by the reason of the holy Ghost in this place there is no remission of sinne to bee looked for by the suffering and death of H. N. his Christ because it is often renewed and continually reiterated For euery one of that familie is to suffer with Christ the like death of the Crosse And as the true sacrifice for sinne was but one to declare the sufficiencie and perfection thereof so the true Sacrificer for sinne to argue his abilitie had none to take his place after him in that worke in respect whereof Christ hath the prerogatiue aboue the Priests vnder the lawe who because they could not liue alwayes had others to succeede them in that function Wheras he enduring for euer hath the office for euer remaining to himself alone according as it is written to the Hebrues And among them speaking of the Priestes vnder the law many were made Priestes because they were not suffered to endure by reason of death But this mā because he endudureth euer hath a Priesthood which cānot passe from one vnto another Whereby it appeareth playnely that the true Christ can haue none to follow him eyther in the office or in the offering for sinne And therfore this doctrine of H. N. which telleth vs that we are to follow Christ in his like death of the Crosse to the safemaking of vs from our sins disagreeth no lesse with the trueth thē doth light with darkenes It is at open warre with the doctrine of iustification which is left vnto vs in the worde of God for the Apostle prooueth that we are righteous by fauour freely geuen vs from God and not by any dutie or desert that is comming vnto vs in the right of our workes grounding his reason vppon the phrase and fourme of Speache which the Scripture vseth in this matter when the righteousnesse euen of Abraham and Dauid men who of all other were best stored of good woorkes is of purpose discussed touching this point Where because hee findeth it written of Abraham that hee beleeued and that was imputed or reckoned vnto him for righteousnes And that Dauid describing a blessed man sayth Hee is blessed to whom the Lord imputeth not sinne Hee pronounceth plainely that our righteousnesse commeth of fauour and not of duetie because wee doe not vse this woorde imputing or accepting when it is duety in the man answering but onely when it is a free gratifiyng For the wages that are growing vnto vs for our woorkes are called due debt and claymed in equitie by iust title and when they shall truely pay them yet is that no more but duetie which proceedeth from them But fauour and and friendship ruled in the matter when Abraham was iustified because the scripture saith he was accepted or reckoned righteous bringing nothing with him beside faith that is a resting in the gracious good will
duetie with them not only payeth their olde debt but also purchaseth more lande and liuing Let one of them yeelde a litle seruice vnto their God in their deuotion suche as it is and they will make that to answere the debt and daunger of their former sinnes yea and to deserue also more and greater graces to be geuen them from God according as H.N. sayth heere that they muste burie the olde man to the ende that they might euen so obteine the renuing of their spirite and minde in an vpright life Yf they coulde perswade men that there were either equitie right or reason in this kinde of dealing which they wil force vpon the Lorde it were no great matter too growe soone as riche in goodes as they doe take them selues to be in godlinesse For when they haue long tyme gone vpō credit if after their beginning to pay for wares as they shall take them they coulde perswade their creditours that the same dealing which nowe at the laste they haue light vppon doeth not onely answere their former debtes but also in equitie deserue to haue better penie-worthes alwayes after howesoeuer it should fare with their creditours they were sure to gaine greatly by it Thus blinde is man when he walketh without the worde And when his reason for some long time hath been his rule his punishment from GOD is so great that he taketh it in the ende to bee reason to depart from all equitie and reason If our sinnes were answered in that obedience wherby our life is reformed how commeth it then to passe that the Apostle speaking to the Church of Corinth after they were turned from theyr lewde life to serue the liuing God affirmeth that yf Christe be not risen they are yet in their sinnes They walked in humble obedience vnto theyr GOD they had left idolatrie fornication drunkennesse and other fruites of ignorance wherein before they had liued Notwithstanding the apostle telleth them that if Christ by his rising vp againe haue not made a cōquest for them ouer sinne hel and destruction their rising from sinne will stande them in no steede Because albeit they haue left those sinnes yet haue they not answered the Iustice of GOD for the offence whereof they haue made them giltie by theyr committing of the same as the Theefe or other malefactour may not thinke that all his offence passeth when the action is once past the purpose lefte of doeing the like it is no Plea either in lawe or reason for hym to say the deed is long since doone and my wayes are now otherwyse his offence committed against the good lawes vnder the with he liueth against the peace of his Prince must necessarily either be pardoned or els in his punishementes satisfied For albeit the deede passeth away with the tyme it is in doeing yet leaueth it that giltinesse in vs which no other thing but either pardon or punishment can discharge As for that H. N. affirmeth that our burial of the old mā obteineth the renuing of our spirite and minde in an vpright life it will in no wise stande with the doctrine left vnto vs in the woorde of god The woorde of GOD will not beare that blasphemie Touching this point God saith the Apostle which is rich in mercy euen when wee were dead by sinnes not when we had put our sinnes to death hath quickened vs togeather in Christ by whose grace yee are saued and hath raysed vs vp togeather that hee myght shewe in the ages too come the exceeding ryches of his grace through his kindenesse towardes vs in IESVS Christe For by grace are yee saued through faith and that not of your selues it is the gift of GOD not of woorkes least any man shoulde boast him selfe Which doctrine not onely affirmeth that grace and not woorkes hath brought vs vnto the estate of saluation but also that wee haue passed immediatly from the woorkes of darkenesse and a damnable estate into the workes of light and estate of our saluation Euen when wee were dead in sinnes saith the Apostle hath God quickened vs in Christ by whose grace ye are saued How is our saluation of grace not of workes if by buriyng the olde man and woorking the death and destruction of sinne we obteyne the renuing of our mind in an vpright life How can it be said that hee hath quickened vs euen when we were dead by sinnes if we haue by our woorks greatly preuailed against sinne euen so farre as to procure the death thereof before we be quickened by beeyng renued in our spirite and mynde in an vpright lyfe H.N. Beholde after this manner as wee beeleeue and doe heere confesse or acknowledge become wee rightly baptized in the name of the Sonne incorporated or implanted as fellowe members of Christe into the bodye of Christe and the stocke of Israel to the ende that wee shoulde euen so according to the trueth as true Christians and an holy people of Israel of the seed of Abraham beare or carry his holy name confesse or acknowledge the same Christ as our Sauiour before men and euen so liue and walke in his louelie vpright beeyng Wee confesse likewise that all suche as doe not imitate or followe after Iesus Christ in his death of the crosse in all obedience of the holy worde of Iesu Christ and of his holy spirite of loue to the vanquishing of the sinne the death and the hel to a burying of all iniquitie destroying nature vngodly being or become not euen so baptized or washed in his name neither yet beare the death of the sinne through the death of the crosse of Christ in their inwardnesse are no christians nor yet baptized in the name or saluation of the sonne For al such as become not baptized or washed in the name of Iesu that is in the sauing health of his death to the mortifiyng of the sinfull fleshe according to the inwarde man neither yet indeuour them thereto and yet neuerthelesse boast them to be christians they are al false n Christians also lying in al theyr confessing teaching because they enter not into the cōmunialtie of the sheepe of Christ through the death and coincor porating of the death of Christ which is the right doore of the sheepe folde of Christ but breake in some other way and beleeue not the saluation or sauing health of Iesu Christ Answeare THis conteyneth nothing els but a iustifiyng of that which hee hath professed before to wit that our imitation of Christe in his death of the crosse is our beliefe in the sonne and our baptizing in the name of the sonne and a condemning of al as false Christians who shal not enter by this his way into the sheepefolde of Christ And therfore my former answere doth dispatch this also Through this doctrine professed by H. N. faith is vtterly banished and woorkes onely and altogeather imbrased so that instead
of saying I beleeue in Iesus Christ if we wil become scholers vnto H. N. we are to say I work Iesu Christ The matter that ministreth vnto vs faith and comfort in Iesus Christ is that he being God equall with his father hath notwithstanding abased himselfe in our nature and for our saluation vnto the estate of a seruant wherein he hath humbled himselfe vnto all reproch contempt anguish and bitternesse of paine both in soule and bodie in the time of his life and vnto all infamie and slander by his death For his death was the death of the crosse and his graue was giuen him with the wicked and the wicked had their will of him insomuch that the Prophet saith He was famous for his miserie and affliction This is that loue and friendship which the Apostle saith hath no fellow or match to be found among men For who hath beene found to offer himselfe to an infamous death for his friend the sonne of God doth it for his enemies For he was counted among the transgressours Here is the ground worke of our faith and comfort that when there was no religion or feare of God in vs and therefore deadly enmitie betwene him and vs yet so great was the good will he did beare vnto vs that himselfe would wade throughout all those raging waues to saue and preserue vs that were vnder the water of euerlasting destruction Here is the triumph of Christians in whom religion is in trueth begonne and his feare truely entered and therefore hatred banished and they truely reconciled that if his death were able of enemies to make friends his life which is of much more efficacie power shall well be able where friendship is begonne to continue it for euer If that which is weaker hath done the greater worke the stronger will bee much more able to goe thorowe with the lesse labour H. N. his Christ cutteth of all this comfort For his estate in suffring was not abased and lower then before it had beene but better and nearer vnto glorie H. N. his Christ was not equall with God before the time of his passion and humiliatiō but an vtter enimy vnto god For the time of his humiliation and suffering is from his first entrance into the familie vntill he become an illuminate elder before which time in his opinion hee is a straunger nay an vtter enimie to God and all godlinesse Here is then no argument of good will by abasing himselfe from a better estate vnto a worse whereby comfort especially commeth vnto vs Besides H.N. his Christ suffereth for his owne benefite for hee coulde not come to euerlasting ioy and his perfect estate vnlesse he should die in the flesh And this vtterly killeth all comfort for what argument of good will towardes vs can wee haue from another in that matter whereby himselfe is either the whole or at the least the greatest gayner Moreouer shall his death by reconciling of vs to God which is the greater worke from the weaker instrument put vs in assured hope to be safely kept by his life vnto eternall glorie when wee are both by our owne death suffering to rid vs from the daunger of our sinnes reconcile vs vnto our God and by our life to continue and preserue our selues vnto glorie Howe fearefull is the fall of H.N. and his familie that haue forsaken the true Messias that bringeth so great comfort vnto mankinde to imbrace so cursed and comfortlesse a Christ H.N. The fift Article We beleeue that the God of Abraham hath raysed vp this his sonne Iesus from the dead and that hee euen so the third day rose againe from the dead and appeared or made manifest himselfe vnto his friends which loued him shewing vnto them through his suffering and death of the Crosse the victorie ouer the sinne death deuill hell the flesh and the worlde Answere The resurrection of H.N. his Christ answereth vnto that doctrine which he hath deliuered before touching his death For as that was nothing but a passing out of the flesh or letter of the law which is a condition common to the Nouices and yong ones in H.N. his schoole so this is the resurrection when a man is come into the spirit or that estate of perfection which his illuminate elders are pertakers of That which hath beene spoken of before may sufficiently satisfie vs touching H.N. his opinion that thus he thinketh and not otherwise of the resurrection yet shall it not be amisse to adde one testimonie out of his Euangelie where of purpose he handleth the resurrection of Christ it is in the. 22. Chapter where he speaketh thus Now whē Iesu Christ was foūd faithful in the death of his crosse til vnto his burial to a true Passeouer out of the flesh into the making aliue according to the spirit was also through the power of God his father raised vp frō the death and made aliue againe and that he had shewed himselfe in his making aliue vnto his disciples for that they should stedfastly beleeue so was he then wholy taken vp from the eyes of their fleshe and he set himselfe according to the spirite at the right hande of God his father in the heauenly being and entred euen so as the true high Priest when as the seruice had perfectly ended his course according to the true being in the holy into the most holy his disciples therefore were mindful of all this and what he had said vnto them remained within Ierusalem wayting concordably with supplication and praier for the promises of the father vntil that Christ after the spirite appeared vnto them out of the heauenly being the most holy in the holy in spirituall and heauenly powers like as hee after the Spirite and according to the trueth of the heauenly Godhead is an euerlasting and true Christ of GOD. He is plaine as you heare in this point that Christ his resurrection and making aliue was according to the spirite for he sayth that Iesus Christ was founde faythfull in his death of the crosse to a true Passouer out of the flesh into the making aliue according to the spirit He is likewise as plaine in this that his sitting at the right hand of God is in spirit spiritual For those are his very words as you haue heard he set himselfe according to the spirit at the right hād of god his father in the heauēly being More ouer he is of opinion that he is not a true Christ but as he speaketh imagineth of him that is according to the spirit For touching this point these are his words He after the spirit and according to the trueth of the heauenly Godhed is an euerlasting and true Christ of God. And that in this absurd doctrine heauē earth might come togither and a mingle mangle made of all things hee shameth not to affirme that Christ is the holy ghost and that the doctrine which is deliuered in the 2.
resurrection and inherite euerlasting life Answere All the comfort that H. N. doeth assure his familie of by the resurrection of their Christ is that such as shall become obedient vnto his doctrine which thing he expresseth in these woordes such as indeuour themselues in the beliefe vnder the obedience of the loue of Iesus Christ to become implanted into Christ the gracious woorde of the Lord for Christ as you haue heard before signifieth somtimes nothing else with H. N. but this worde and doctrine which he hath brought into the worlde shall by this their slaying and burying of sinne in the flesh become renued in the spirite of their minde obteyne and inioy the resurrection or as he speaketh the making aliue from the deade and inherite the euerlasting life But wee haue not thus learned Christ so manie as haue beene taught out of the woorde of God the truth of him and the true fruite of his resurrection For as Christ Iesus died in our sinnes and went downe into the graue in our iniquities inasmuch as it was our sinnes and no offence of his owne that drewe him vnto death so his resurrection was the perfect absolution and clearing of the faithfull from al their transgressions For had one sinne of his seruants bene vnsatisfied for neither woulde death haue resigned hir right who had arested him as suretie for sinne neither would the righteous Lord by raising him from the dead bringing him out of the danger that he lay vnder for our sinnes haue giuen sentence on his side so iustified vs in him Which thing the apostle cōfirmeth triumphing ouer condēnation not onely because we haue discharged it by his death but also because we haue our Quietus est acquittance to shew for the same euen his resurrectiō Who shal lay any thing to the charge of god his chose It is God that iustifieth who shal cōdēne it is Christ that is dead yea or rather which is risē againe And likewise the same apostle in his epistle to the Corin. affirmeth plainly that if Christ be not risen from the dead we haue nothing to shewe for our discharge against sinne but do remaine yet vnder the danger thereof And in the Epistle to the Romanes he declareth also that wee are by his resurrection cleared from our sinnes and they nowe no longer imputed vnto vs And therefore when he had before declared that not only Abraham his faith was imputed vnto him for righteousnesse but also that ours shal be imputed vnto vs hee telleth vs more particularly how this commeth to passe to wit because Christe who was deliuered to death for our sinnes is risen againe for our iustification For as God the father in deliuering Christ vnto death did cast all our sinnes vpon him and condemned our sinnes in him so in raysing him frō the dead he iustified and absolued him vs in him inasmuch as but for vs neither sinne nor death could haue any thing to doe with him from all our sinnes and trāsgressions whatsoeuer Now if the Lorde had let him make an escape who was in holde for our sinnes inasmuch as he had once taken vpon hym to satisfie for the same or wrougt his deliuerance and set him at libertie before a ful sufficient satisfaction had bene made then coulde not himselfe haue bene cleared of iniurye offred vnto vs nor his Iustice haue bene vnspotted euen before vs which if once wee suffer to enter but into our thoughtes it maketh vs giltye of high treason against our god This doctrine therefore of H. N. who will haue our dying vnto synne not onelie to preuent but also to procure our rising vnto righteousnesse not mencioning any other benefite that wee haue from Christ his resurrectiō beside the example that is set before vs for our imitation and following after him in the same is at defiance and vtter enmitie with the trueth which is taught in the word of god For Christ his resurrection which H. N. maketh so small an accounpt of not onelie is our iustification from the giltinesse and daunger of sinne but also the head and wel spring of al that righteousnes holinesse and newenes of life that is to be founde ni the conuersation of his seruāts And therfore the Apostle in the 2. to the Ephe. doth fetch our rising vnto righteousnesse frō Christ his resurrection and ioyning them togither speaketh thus God which is rich in mercie euen when we were deade by sinnes hath quickened vs togither in Christ and hath raysed vs vp togither And accordingly to the Collosians draweth his exhortation vnto newnesse of life from the resurrection of Christ as from the fountaine from the which floweth the reformation of our life If ye thē be risen with Christ saith the Apostle seeke those thinges which are aboue where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God set your affection on things that are aboue and not on thinges which are on the earth Which thing is also confirmed out of the Ephesians where we doe reade that the large and liberall distribution of his graces did followe his resurrection and ascention when that notable victorie and conquest ouer sinne death was fully accomplished The resurrection therfore of Christ according to the trueth of his worde is not onely our discharge against sinne but the fountaine and spring also of all that chaūge of life and conuersation which is to be seene in his seruants But according to this doctrine of H.N. it is neither our discharge against sinne nor yet the beginning of our good life therfore without mention either of iustification from sinne by it or viuification and quickening in the wayes of righteousnesse we are sent to make warre with our affections according to the rules of his doctrine that so wee may obteine the resurrection from the deade and the renewing of our spirit and minde So that we haue nothing in H.N. his Creed to be beleeued but many things in our conuersation to be practised nothing to leaue vnto that was once doone by him but al that we may trust to must proceede from our selfe Touching this poynt Whether our dying vnto sin doe both preuent and purchase the renewing of our minde it hath beene answeared in the article immediatly going before H. N. The sixt Article We beleeue that this same Iesus like as the Scripture mencioneth thereof is ascended into Heauen sitting at the right hand of God his almightie Father We confesse that he hath taken in the heauen and reigneth and ruleth essentially in the heauenly beeing with his father vntill that all his enemyes be layde vnder his fete and that he in like maner shall in euery behalfe take in the kingdome and all dominion and power and render it all ouer vnto his father that God may euen so be all in all according to the promises Answeare This confessor H. N. acknowledgeth and confesseth that this same Iesus of
all loue annoynted blessed and elected to a sanctified bride of Christ shee becommeth named one holy communialty of holie ones which is the holie conioyned body of the bodie of Iesu Christ We confes that this same one holy comunialtie which becommeth euen so as is aboue said incorporated through the loue into the bodie of Iesu Christ as one bodie with him and baptized in his sauing health is the true Christianitie and the vpright holie churche of Iesu Christ Wherevnto all people shoulde of right assemble them vnder the obedience of the loue to their blessing and saluation according to the promises For she is God maiesty or the true house of the loue for his dwelling wherein God will haue mercie on all people Who so nowe therefore assembleth him not vnder the obdiēce of the loue vnto the same holy Church of Iesu Christ neither yet submitteth him humbly vnder the same maiestie of GOD but contemneth the righteousnesse of GOD and the spiritual giftes riches of Christ so turneth away him self from the communialtie of the loue the chosen holy ones of God he sheweth that hee is false of hearte and standeth minded agaynst GOD and his holie Church and bringeth euen so the iudgement of his condemnation ouer himselfe Answeare H.N. professeth here that this sect is the true and onely Church of Christ incorporated through loue to Christ wherevnto all people shoulde of right assemble themselues to their blessing and saluation because she is Gods Maiestie for these be his owne wordes Hee professeth likewise that whosoeuer turneth himselfe away from this communialtie of the loue hee bringeth euen so the iudgement of his condemnation ouer himselfe In many places of this booke he flatly condemneth all people that are not of this secte hee affirmeth their estate to hee a false beyng the Diuell the Antichrist the wicked spirit the kingdome of Hell the maiestie of the Diuell himselfe they are his verie woordes in the fifteenth Chapter of his first exhortation I will not stand long vpon this point but content my selfe onely with two testimonies and those taken out of this and the next chapter whereby euery man may easily perceiue what his iudgement is both of the Preachers and people wheresoeuer or howe many soeuer that are not of his familie Thus he speaketh in the fifteenth Chapter of his first Exhortation and tenth Section The vnilluminated vnsent teachers busie and apply them very earnestly about the profounde knowledge of the Scriptures or high vnderstandinges according to the pleasing either contentation of men or about a paynted holines or false righteousnes according to the fleshe or outwarde appearance that hath before the fleshly minded a shewe of righteousnes but inwardly their nature or minde is full of iniquitie and full of all false witnessinges against God his gratious woorde and his Ministers and they are not else what but a nest of Diuelles and of all wicked Spirites Therefore surely the riches of the knowledge in all false heartes of the Scripture-learned and in all presumptuous or arrogant selfe wise is the false spirite of Antichrist which through his shew of outwarde holines and great knowledge in the Scripture worketh a secrete iniquitie and esteemeth himselfe as more worthie then the loue and her seruice and aboue the wisedome of God or the vpright life to be the spirit of the ful wisedom it self And in the sixteenth Chapter which is the next following and seuenteenth Section he confirmeth his iudgement in these woordes Therefore it is assuredly al false lies seducing and deceitful what the vngodly or vnilluminated men out of the imaginatiō or riches of their own knowledg out of the learnednes of the Scriptures bring foorth institute preache and teache They preache in deed the letter imaginatiō of their knowledge but not the word of the liuing god Seing then they haue not fulfilled obediently the first entrance into the doctrine of the gratious word yet neuerthelesse with free hearts presumptuosly boast them to haue and to vse all what is brought geuē out of grace to the holieones of God in the communialtie of the loue lie or erre therein so is doubtlesse all their doing word that they vse out of the free mindednes of their heat a false freedom out the false light the imagination of the knowledge all their congregation let thē esteeme thēselues so holy as they will a false Christianity and Deuilles Synagogue or schoole For there is none other cōmunialtie of holie ones or true Christianitie but the communialty of holy ones in the loue of Iesu Christ al such as adioyne thē thervnto and grow vp vnder the obedience of the loue in the same loue to elders of the holy godly vnderstanding His woordes can no waye be arrested so but that any man who shall read them may see and plainly perceiue that he thinketh of al that are not of his familie imbracing his doctrine adioyning themselues to that number as of a false christianitie a diuels sinagogue or schole they be his owne woordes euen now cited as you haue hearde It is very expedient therefore to examine what trueth there is in this his assertion The true Church of Christ resteth vpon Christ and his obedience H.N. his familie resteth vpon the law and their obedience yeelded vnto the same for that is their Christ and all the meanes of saluation that they doe acknowledge as doeth plainely appeare by that which hath beene spoken afore of their Christ Wee may therefore say vnto them with the Apostle ye are abolished from Christ who soeuer are iustified by the law ye are fallen from grace The Church of Christ is Abraham his seede and therfore as he was so they be heires by promise H.N. his familie commeth to all their happinesse by their own paines proper purchase therfore fallen frō grace and lye vnder the curse of God For so many as are of the workes of the law are vnder the curse saith the Apostle In the true Church of Christ the iusi man who because he is iust cannot be voyde of the fruites of righteousnesse and true holinesse yet leaneth he not to that his labour as now beeing altogither free from imperfection but liueth by his faith and resteth in the mercy of his God according as it is written by the Apostle The iuste shall liue by faith But in this Familie there iust men leaue and let goe all faith and credite in the goodnesse of any other and will liue by their owne laboure This sanctification and holinesse of the Church of Christe albeit it be sounde and sincere yet is it neuer perfect and absolute in this life without sinne and imperfection at all For we doe reade in the Gospell after Saint Iohn that braunches euen all of those without exception which bring forth fruite be in no other estate but that they haue in
Let vs therefore as many as be perfect be thus minded So that the perfection of the Apostle and all Christians for his doctrine is our instruction is in acknowledging our imperfection to long for that which is yet wanting and to endeuour our selues vnto that whiche is before According to this trueth it is saide of euerie true Christian without exception that they are to growe and to encrease in the fruites of godlinesse Euerie braunche that beareth fruite saieth our Sauiour Christ My heauenly Father doeth purge that it may bring foorth more fruite Wherevnto agreeth this saying of Augustine in his seconde booke De peccatorum meritis remissione cap. 15. A man may be called perfect and be accounted woorthie of that name not because there is no thing nowe wherein he may profit but because he hath greatly profited as we call him perfect in the law who notwithstāding is yet ignorant of some thing in the same As the Apostle calleth them perfect to whom he saith If ye bee otherwise minded God shal open euen the same vnto you Hitherto Augustine Herevppon it followeth necessarily that this saying of S. Luke There is more ioy in heauen for one sinner that conuerteth then for nientie and niene iust men which neede no repentaunce is to bee taken by way of comparison that is that neede no repentaunce in comparison and respect of the other In which sense likewise is that taken which they also obiect agaynst vs out of the prayer of Manasses in the ende of the second booke of the Chronicles Thou O Lord that art the God of the iust hast not appointed repentance vnto the iust as to Abrahā Isaac Iacob which haue not sinned against thee This forme and manner of speache to deny that in words simply which is not denied in sense and meaning but in respect of some other thing is sundry times vsed in the Scripture as in the first to the Corinthes The Apostle affirmeth that Christ sent him not to baptise but to preache Yet was the commission graunted vnto the Apostles not onely to preache but to baptize also And himselfe confessed euen in the next verse going before that he had baptized the housholde of Stephana It is therefore of necessitie to bee taken by way of comparison that they stoode nothing so greatly charged from the Lorde with baptizing as with preaching Which phrase of speaking is likewise vsed of the Prophet Ieremie I spake not vnto your Fathers concerning burnt offering and sacrifice but this thing commaunded I them saying Obey my voice When notwithstanding it cannot bee denied but that burnt offering and sacrifice was expressely geuen vnto that people in commaundement But hee meaneth that the respect was not alike of the outward offering of sacrifices and of the true spirituall seruice of God after his worde The aunsweare of Pelagius that auncient Heretike and of his successoures who woulde haue the acknowledging of sinne in the seruauntes of GOD to be a speache of modestie and not of veritie cannot stande with that saying of Saint Iohn 1. Epistle 1. Chapter verse eight For there he chargeth them who will take no knowledge that they bee sinners not with want of humilitie but with falshood and vntrueth If wee saie that wee haue noe sinne wee deceiue our selues and trueth is not in vs if wee acknowledge our sinnes he is faithfull and iust to forgeue vs our sinnes If we haue sinnes to be pardoned then are they in vs and ought in trueth to be acknowledged and we are deceiued if we thinke that there is no suche thing in vs which in truth it ●aght to be confessed Their seconde shift is of like force when they saie that the Saintes and the seruauntes of GOD are called sinners in the Scriptures not because they be such in their owne persons but onely because they be of that number of people which hath sinners in it in respect whereof and not otherwise that name is geuen vnto them Doe we not reade in Daniel that he confessed his owne sinne as well as the sinne of the people of Israell And is it not written in like maner of Nehemiah Chapter 1.6 that hee confessed both himselfe and his Fathers house to haue greeuously offended It is euident therfore that in themselues they were sinners in as muche as it is sayde expressely of them that they confessed their owne sinnes aswell as the sinnes of the people Whereby also that thirde shifte of Pelagius That good men shoulde be called sinners onely for the condition of their nature because it is fraile and not for any thing that is in their will by inclining in any consent vnto euill is not onely shaken but vtterly ouerturned for by their confession it is playne not onely that they had a brittle and vnstayed nature but that they had yeelded in consent to will nay beyonde the will euen vnto the deede and doing of that which was displeasaunt in the sight of god Some of the disciples of H.N. haue affirmed vnto me that the Apostles after they were Apostles sinned not thinking if that were once granted foorthwith the estate of perfection in their illuminate Elders were fully established to whom when I aunsweared that they as all Christians stoode bounde to call vpon God all the dayes of their liues for the forgiuenesse of their sinnes beyng a peticion in that prayer which himselfe hath prescribed to be vsed of his Churche for euer They replied that it coulde not be prooued that euer they vsed that praier after once they were Apostles To contend with them for the forme of woordes when the argument and matter it selfe is manifest were an vnnecessary contention This cannot be denied but that Iames was an Apostle neither can it bee denied but that after he was an Apostle he vttered this of himselfe and of al other In many things we offende all Iohn wrote his Epistle after he was an Apostle Wherein he speaketh of himselfe and of all others that if wee shall saie We haue no sinne we deceiue our selues and truth is not in vs. The Lorde geue them if it be his will with true touch to see that which the scripture doth assure vs they haue I meane their sinne and offences against God least with the proude Pharisey that came before God with an opinion of his perfection they heare when it shal be to late Euery one that exalteth himselfe shal be brought lowe It is written in the Gospel after Saint Luke of Zacharie and his wife that they were iust before God and walked in all the commaundements ordinances of the Lord without reproofe w is obiected against vs And yet who is ignoraunt that Zachary was a priest therefore daily ●●…ered sacrifices for his own sins as wel as for the sins of the people with had bin in vain if he had bin altogether without sin offence Where they do affirm that because contraries
prayers howe some doe value them wee can not be ignorant The holy Ghost when he hath reproued the people for their outward worship in sacrifices willeth them to call vpon the Lord in the day of trouble promising that he wil heare them they shal glorifie him making praier a special worship of God setting it before the outward sacrifices in the 4. of Deu. it is made the peprerogatiue of the people of God because there are none in suche a case as they be who haue their Gods so nigh them as our GOD is nigh vnto vs in all that wee call vnto him for Then must it needes be that they are in an euill taking that see no fruite of their prayers it being the speciall blessing of the people of God to haue him nigh in their praiers by graunting their petitiōs But forasmuch as it is saide to be the voyce and affection of the hart and no man being asked will geue out so slenderly of his praiers Let vs come to a further examination of it The most sort of men haue no profite by their prayers because they make not conscience to know do those things which the Lord by his word hath reuealed to be pleasing in his sight Whatsoeuer we aske sayth S. Iohn we receiue of him because we keepe his cōmaundementes and doe those things which are pleasyng in his sight No maruaile thē yf those be farre from hauing their prayers heard of the Lorde who haue neither knowledge nor liking of his woorde And a great sort of others who in profession haue receiued his worde when they want any thing if they see meanes how to come by it either pray not at all but forthwith vse the meanes either els if they pray it is but of fashion as being in their iudgement sure safe already If they se no likelihoode to atteine it being without hope they let prayer fall So if any thing fall out where there was the worke of an ordinarie meane it steppeth betwene God and his prayse and darkeneth the light of prayer If otherwise any thing come where prayer for want of fayth was let downe that is put ouer to miracle or fortune therefore in hart of experience they cannot say that they are any whit beholding vnto theyr prayers But wee learne in the booke of GOD that the godly pray in matters moste harde to be brought to passe and most vnlikely in regard of any vsual and ordinarie meanes and yet are heard and geue him the praise There are named in the 107. Psalme diuers matters that seeme to be meere casual cōming without al meanes yet praied for graūted with praise returned to the geuer vnder those are al other also vnderstoode that may be thought to be as casual There is mention made of the Mariners in the Sea tossed with tempestes nowe hoysed vp now plunged downe tyll theyr heartes faile within them yet when they pray vnto the Lord they are hearde of him then do they geue him thankes Other casuall thinges are mentioned and al comprehended But in the last verse the holy Ghost maketh it only the wise and godly mans worke to vnderstande this in trueth to comprehende it and by true and inwarde assuraunce thereof to geue him the praise for it The vngodly therefore in ordinarie thinges are hindred by the meanes inextraordinarie they see nothing but chaunce and therefore they say What profite shall wee haue yf we pray The children of GOD knowe that nothing is pure vnto them vnlesse it be sanctified with prayer and therefore they resorte to him in all their necessities by prayer They poure their griefes into his bosome with desire to obtayne that they might praise his mercies and they surely finde if they continue asking either deliueraunce either els a tollerable condition which doeth assure them that it is not in vaine to seeke the Lorde and that the ende wil be happy Prayer for benefites acknowledgeth God to be the geuer and maketh prayse to be geuen in trueth Not to pray to GOD is to be an vtter enimie to his glory not to pray particularly as necessitie requireth is to enuie him and his praise and the practise of Dauid in particular considerations making his prayers and Psalmes doeth reproue it The Papistes take Gods grace to be throwen downe indifferently And men not experienced of his goodnes particularly must needes thinke that hee hath put all thinges vnto a generall gouernment for as for any particular experience of his goodwill towardes them they haue it not Wee must denie this vngodlinesse that groweth by prayer into no experience of GOD his goodnesse Doe we thinke that any man shall euer safely put him selfe ouer vnto the hope of the promises at the houre of death which all his life long hee neuer tried to be true before Wee must also deny worldly lustes and not only those which tende to hurt our neighbour in body goods or good name but euen those that hold vs so in this worlde as wee can get no true taste in the pleasures of an other For wee are holden captiue of worldly lustes in one respect or other vntill we become newe creatures looking for that glory which shall appeare at the comming of Christe The next thing required is to liue soberly This sobrietie is a gift that moderateth the minde in his delightes affections and may therefore well be tearmed the moderatour of the minde It is a gift that doeth keepe the minde from pleasures altogeather vnlawful and in those that bee lawfull it keepeth a man from the excesse and abuse of them That it is not onely restrained to the filthy desires of the fleshe may be proued in the. 12. to the Roma Where the Apostle appointeth this gift and grace of God to order euery man in his calling That hee take not vppon him but according to that measure which GOD hath geuen him For in very deede the minde of man hath many thinges beside the filthie desires of the fleshe to ouerturne it wherin this gift of GOD hath good vse It was this gift that Paul had when as he professed him selfe to haue learned to be riche and to be poore to haue ben instructed to abounde and also to want to be content withall estates and to holde him selfe happy in them as in a portion sent him from the lord In may be thought no great gifte for a riche man to learne to be riche yet doeth the Apostle say it is a matter that requireth learning and doeth ascribe it vnto Christe his worke within him It is therfore worth the labour to enter into some farther cōsideratiō what he should meane in this matter The meaning he giueth in the same place whē he saith I haue learned in what estate soeuer I am therwith to be content A lesson necessarie for all men A lesson necessarie for riche men to learne them to be riche that is to holde them selues contented