venture_v further_o into_o the_o search_n of_o other_o man_n heart_n or_o in_o pose_v any_o thing_n upon_o their_o conscience_n further_o than_o they_o have_v the_o mind_n of_o god_n to_o warrant_v they_o low_a term_n that_o they_o may_v take_v man_n into_o church-fellowship_n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 8._o the_o know_v godly_a be_v present_o admit_v upon_o their_o own_o desire_n w._n t._n to_o mr_n b._n say_v if_o a_o man_n be_v humble_a and_o have_v a_o earnest_a desire_n though_o he_o be_v but_o in_o a_o wait_a condition_n if_o in_o other_o thing_n he_o make_v conscience_n of_o his_o way_n he_o know_v no_o man_n of_o wit_n will_v deny_v he_o to_o become_v a_o member_n the_o same_o man_n to_o p._n h._n if_o your_o minister_n be_v here_o they_o will_v not_o think_v we_o too_o strict_a but_o too_o remiss_a in_o discipline_n i_o think_v in_o time_n we_o shall_v grow_v like_o old_a england_n e._n c._n to_o r._n c._n but_o of_o their_o abatement_n see_v after_o more_o particular_o 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of_o a_o harsh_a and_o crabbed_a constitution_n opinion_n and_o affection_n discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 4._o and_o that_o there_o be_v a_o suitableness_n and_o sweetness_n of_o spirit_n in_o they_o apt_a to_o close_v one_o with_o another_o j._n cott._n note_v of_o the_o church_n in_o fol._n p._n 2_o 3._o 10._o a_o three_o be_v that_o they_o prevent_v they_o doubtless_o a_o good_a rule_n agree_v to_o scripture_n pattern_n and_o the_o reason_n good_a i_o can_v wish_v they_o that_o hold_v it_o forth_o so_o strict_o to_o other_o do_v not_o needless_o swerve_v from_o it_o themselves_o for_o whereas_o our_o law_n have_v tie_v all_o man_n dwell_v within_o such_o and_o such_o precinct_n to_o meet_v together_o in_o such_o a_o place_n under_o such_o a_o ministry_n for_o god_n public_a worship_n and_o exercise_v of_o church_n duty_n some_o of_o they_o contrary_a to_o this_o good_a law_n destroy_v these_o so_o far_o forth_o at_o least_o orderly_a consociation_n pull_v asunder_o our_o true_a 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cat_n p._n 5._o 11._o a_o four_o thing_n be_v they_o must_v be_v such_o as_o know_v what_o belong_v to_o then_o to_o therefore_o if_o any_o man_n deny_v or_o but_o doubt_n of_o this_o church-covenant_n viz._n as_o distinct_a from_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n their_o church_n door_n be_v for_o ever_o shut_v against_o he_o god_n help_v i_o then_o church-covenant_n and_o approve_v thereof_o j._n p._n to_o w._n r._n t._n g._n to_o j._n g._n 12._o last_o they_o must_v seek_v and_o desire_v church-membership_a and_o church-fellowship_n viz._n in_o their_o way_n of_o it_o apol._n p._n 11.39_o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 4._o j.w._n ans_fw-fr to_o 10._o quest_n j.w._n to_o t.s._n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 8._o cott._n cat_n p._n 4._o which_o if_o they_o do_v not_o they_o account_v they_o other_o they_o this_o be_v harsh_a of_o all_o the_o rest_n may_v not_o such_o forbearance_n proceed_v out_o of_o humility_n or_o modesty_n though_o unwarrantable_a ignorance_n or_o tenderness_n of_o conscience_n as_o scruple_v their_o covenant_n and_o the_o course_n follow_v it_o discouragement_n or_o the_o like_a man_n forget_v the_o royal_a law_n of_o love_n to_o do_v as_o they_o will_v be_v do_v to_o some_o call_v sharp_o for_o charity_n charity_n to_o themselves_o that_o show_v but_o slender_a charity_n to_o other_o despiser_n of_o it_o yea_o wicked_a and_o graceless_a person_n and_o so_o unworthy_a of_o it_o apol._n p._n 25_o 26_o 27_o 34._o ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 69._o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 21._o j.w._n ans_fw-fr to_o 10._o quest_n discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 28._o n._n concern_v the_o admission_n of_o infant_n see_v after_o in_o the_o 7._o chap._n of_o admission_n etc._n etc._n chap._n four_o of_o the_o form_n of_o the_o true_a visible_a church_n 1._o they_o hold_v the_o form_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n be_v that_o which_o they_o call_v the_o by_o the_o this_o point_n of_o church_n covenant_n be_v worthy_a of_o deep_a consideration_n for_o it_o will_v touch_v the_o freehold_n not_o only_o of_o our_o english_a church_n but_o also_o of_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o world_n if_o this_o be_v the_o rule_n to_o try_v all_o church_n by_o church-covenant_n whereby_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o society_n be_v unite_v to_o christ_n and_o one_o to_o another_o which_o therefore_o they_o count_v absolute_o necessary_a essential_a and_o constitutive_a to_o and_o of_o the_o true_a church_n discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 5-15_a ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 9_o 39_o apol._n p._n 6_o 9_o 17_o 19_o 20_o 21_o 24_o 25_o 38_o 39_o cott._n cat_n p._n 4._o without_o this_o no_o true_a church_n nor_o true_a church_n member_n but_o all_o be_v harlot_n and_o concubine_n apol._n p._n 20_o 24._o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 14_o 18_o 19_o 20_o 21_o 24._o without_o it_o all_o man_n be_v without_o the_o church_n for_o which_o they_o usual_o cite_v 1_o cor._n 5.12_o and_o uncapable_a of_o any_o church_n privilege_n apol._n p._n 6_o 11_o 13_o 19_o 20_o 24_o 25_o 27_o 38_o 39_o 42._o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 17_o 22_o 28._o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 11_o 21_o 24_o 38._o ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 69._o so_o the_o separatist_n rob._n justif_a p._n 75_o 79_o 56_o 81_o 82_o 85_o 86_o 110_o 210_o 207_o 231_o 257_o 351._o 2._o no_o other_o tie_n nor_o all_o other_o imaginable_a without_o this_o they_o conceive_v be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o knit_v man_n together_o into_o one_o church_n nor_o be_v there_o any_o other_o way_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n but_o by_o this_o not_o visible_a profession_n and_o practice_n of_o truth_n and_o holiness_n though_o never_o so_o complete_a and_o sincere_a therefore_o they_o say_v people_n say_v a_o strange_a yet_o bold_a assertion_n speak_v without_o proof_n of_o scripture_n consent_n of_o other_o author_n or_o good_a show_n of_o reason_n melchizedek_n be_v a_o priest_n and_o therefore_o pray_v preach_v and_o offer_v sacrifice_n but_o do_v he_o this_o by_o himself_o and_o for_o himself_o alone_o can_v there_o be_v a_o priest_n by_o office_n without_o a_o people_n job_n and_o melchisedek_n with_o other_o such_o eminent_o godly_a be_v yet_o no_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n because_o not_o within_o this_o church_n covenant_n ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 66._o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 14._o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 28_o 37._o nor_o age_n nor_o robin_n justif_n p._n 230_o say_v '_o it_o be_v a_o anabaptillicall_a error_n to_o hold_v that_o baptism_n constitute_v the_o visible_a church_n i_o suppose_v his_o sense_n be_v the_o same_o with_o they_o when_o they_o say_v that_o baptism_n admit_v not_o into_o the_o visible_a church_n the_o contrary_a whereunto_o i_o conceive_v be_v neither_o popish_a nor_o anabapt_v but_o may_v well_o pass_v for_o orthodox_n
1.13_o by_o reason_n of_o some_o bond_n by_o which_o they_o be_v unite_v togethert_n and_o our_o brethren_n themselves_o do_v sometime_o acknowledge_v a_o universal_a visible_a church_n though_o usual_o they_o deny_v it_o as_o apol._n p._n 16._o 21._o 37._o 40._o yea_o and_o officer_n too_o of_o that_o catholic_a church_n viz._n apostles_n and_o evangelist_n which_o therefore_o while_o they_o remain_v baptize_v person_n into_o that_o church_n wheresoever_o they_o meet_v with_o they_o without_o any_o respect_n to_o a_o congregationall_a church_n as_o themselves_o acknowledge_v nationall_n and_o provincial_n church_n much_o more_o a_o universal_a visible_a church_n in_o any_o sense_n ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 62._o 63._o 66._o apol._n p._n 7._o 23._o r._n m._n to_o e._n b._n p._n 2._o rob._n justif_a p._n 217._o 3._o also_o they_o deny_v all_o woman_n all_o yet_o sometime_o themselves_o be_v force_v to_o use_v commissioner_n or_o messenger_n to_o represent_v the_o whole_a body_n 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to_o be_v tongue_n and_o eye_n as_o well_o as_o other_o to_o be_v hand_n and_o foot_n thereto_o i._n e._n some_o to_o rule_v as_o well_o as_o other_o to_o be_v rule_v one_o congregation_n by_o a_o holy_a covenant_n to_o worship_v the_o lord_n and_o edify_v one_o another_o in_o all_o his_o holy_a ordinance_n cott._n cat_n p._n 1._o answ_n to_o 32._o q._n p._n 13._o chap._n iii_o of_o the_o matter_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n what_o be_v require_v thereunto_o and_o how_o the_o same_o may_v be_v know_v 1._o the_o matter_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n be_v either_o infant_n or_o person_n of_o age_n and_o understanding_n 2._o in_o person_n of_o age_n they_o require_v first_o that_o they_o be_v all_o real_a gracious_a real_a all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n shall_v be_v saint_n holy_a etc._n etc._n but_o there_o be_v a_o external_a and_o federall_a holiness_n 1_o cor._n 7._o and_o i_o real_a internal_a holiness_n that_o be_v absolute_o necessary_a to_o church_n estate_n this_o not_o what_o shall_v become_v of_o our_o intant_n else_o we_o shall_v exclude_v they_o as_o anabaptist_n do_v unless_o we_o fly_v to_o that_o shift_n which_o rob._n just_o if_o p_o 309._o do_v that_o all_o infant_n within_o the_o church_n be_v true_o convert_v and_o so_o as_o fit_v material_n for_o a_o church_n as_o the_o best_a elder_n people_n be_v 2._o real_a and_o internal_a holiness_n be_v doubtless_o require_v of_o all_o church-member_n viz._n in_o foro_fw-la interno_fw-la and_o unto_o acceptation_n with_o god_n but_o not_o in_o foro_fw-la externo_fw-la and_o unto_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n 3._o there_o be_v a_o double_a aught_o to_o be_v saint_n or_o obligation_n to_o real_a holiness_n one_o moral_n vi_fw-la praecepti_fw-la because_o god_n have_v command_v all_o his_o people_n to_o be_v holy_a as_o he_o be_v holy_a 1_o pet._n 1._o another_o physical_a as_o absolute_o necessary_a to_o the_o mere_a be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o without_o which_o it_o be_v a_o false_a church_n no_o church_n in_o the_o former_a sense_n all_o be_v bind_v to_o be_v holy_a not_o in_o this_o latter_a r._n for_o if_o it_o be_v so_o essential_a then_o either_o that_o all_o shall_v be_v so_o holy_a or_o that_o some_o of_o they_o only_o not_o that_o all_o for_o than_o that_o will_v overthrow_v the_o truth_n not_o only_o of_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o world_n beside_o but_o also_o of_o their_o own_o too_o into_o which_o not_o only_o their_o reason_n but_o also_o their_o experience_n have_v teach_v they_o that_o both_o hypocrite_n and_o heretic_n may_v wind_v in_o themselves_o nor_o that_o some_o of_o they_o only_o for_o there_o be_v no_o more_o reason_n for_o some_o to_o be_v bind_v to_o be_v holy_a then_o for_o all_o beside_o at_o the_o exect_n of_o some_o church_n suppose_v the_o first_o 7._o or_o 8._o that_o combine_v in_o church-covenant_n shall_v all_o prove_v hypocrite_n as_o it_o be_v not_o impossible_a but_o not_o as_o yet_o discover_v whether_o be_v this_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n or_o no_o and_o if_o another_o though_o a_o true_a believer_n join_v himself_o to_o they_o be_v he_o a_o member_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n or_o no_o how_o shall_v he_o know_v his_o stand_n in_o that_o church_n to_o be_v lawful_a or_o how_o can_v he_o in_o faith_n continue_v in_o their_o fellowship_n partake_v with_o they_o in_o ordinance_n and_o submit_v to_o their_o censure_n or_o join_v with_o they_o in_o censure_v of_o other_o see_v by_o this_o rule_n they_o be_v none_o of_o they_o true_a saint_n but_o all_o hypocrite_n that_o their_o church_n want_v true_a matter_n and_o so_o be_v uncapable_a of_o the_o true_a form_n of_o a_o church_n and_o therefore_o prove_v a_o false_a church_n and_o all_o their_o church_n act_n and_o his_o with_o they_o be_v so_o many_o nullity_n usurpation_n prevarication_n 4._o if_o none_o but_o real_a saint_n may_v be_v admit_v than_o none_o but_o such_o may_v be_v retain_v will_v they_o then_o 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the_o lord_n in_o our_o particular_a calling_n shun_v idleness_n as_o the_o bane_n of_o any_o state_n nor_o will_v we_o deal_v hardly_o or_o oppress_o with_o any_o 9_o we_o will_v also_o to_o our_o best_a ability_n teach_v our_o child_n and_o servant_n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o his_o will_n that_o they_o may_v serve_v he_o also_o o._n h._n 11._o this_o covenant_n thus_o distinguish_v from_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n they_o hold_v to_o be_v that_o covenant_n which_o be_v sequuntur_fw-la be_v here_o be_v a_o piece_n or_o two_o of_o such_o divinity_n as_o i_o never_o hear_v or_o read_v before_o but_o uno_fw-la absurdo_fw-la dato_fw-la mille_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la seal_v by_o the_o sacrament_n and_o for_o the_o seal_n and_o ratify_v of_o which_o the_o sacrament_n be_v principal_o ordain_v of_o god_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v administer_v only_o to_o such_o as_o be_v first_o enter_v into_o this_o covenant_n as_o seal_n thereof_o apol._n p._n 15_o 19_o 31._o ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 63_o 66._o and_o therefore_o that_o such_o person_n as_o by_o their_o condition_n can_v join_v in_o church_n covenant_n nor_o live_v in_o church_n fellowship_n with_o a_o set_a society_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o partake_v in_o sacrament_n apol._n p._n 39_o 41._o see_v robins_n justif_n p._n 80_o 110._o though_o i_o do_v not_o find_v the_o brownist_n so_o solicitous_o to_o distinguish_v between_o the_o church_n covenant_n and_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o these_o our_o brethren_n do_v 12._o such_o as_o be_v admit_v into_o their_o church_n infant_n by_o the_o covenant_n of_o their_o parent_n be_v not_o yet_o permit_v to_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n when_o they_o come_v to_o year_n until_o they_o have_v first_o run_v through_o all_o the_o foresay_a course_n of_o this_o of_o what_o if_o upon_o examination_n they_o prove_v neither_o convince_o gracious_a as_o want_v expect_v evidence_n nor_o yet_o open_o scandalous_a as_o be_v overpowred_n with_o god_n ordinance_n and_o good_a education_n and_o government_n what_o shall_v become_v of_o they_o then_o admit_v as_o member_n to_o the_o lord_n supper_n they_o shall_v not_o be_v and_o excommunicate_v i_o trow_v they_o can_v just_o be_v by_o this_o rule_n they_o must_v remain_v in_o a_o middle_a condition_n neither_o of_o the_o church_n nor_o without_o the_o church_n and_o what_o warrant_n have_v we_o for_o this_o public_a and_o private_a examination_n profession_n of_o faith_n declaration_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o their_o conversion_n and_o personal_a vocal_a express_v enter_v into_o the_o same_o covenant_n as_o other_o of_o year_n have_v before_o they_o do_v and_o as_o if_o they_o have_v never_o be_v receive_v member_n before_o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 20_o 21._o chap._n v._n of_o the_o manner_n of_o their_o first_o erect_v of_o a_o visible_a church_n 1._o 15._o 1._o the_o reader_n may_v perhaps_o think_v in_o read_v these_o two_o first_o article_n some_o fault_n to_o be_v in_o the_o collectour_n that_o so_o foul_a a_o contradiction_n shall_v be_v hold_v but_o if_o there_o be_v any_o fault_n it_o must_v be_v none_o but_o their_o own_o either_o in_o hold_v and_o practise_v thing_n in_o themselves_o so_o contradictory_n or_o else_o in_o report_v to_o we_o such_o thing_n as_o they_o neither_o hold_v nor_o practice_v but_o this_o contradiction_n will_v yet_o appear_v more_o foul_a when_o we_o consider_v what_o will_v after_o follow_v that_o they_o hold_v it_o not_o only_o lawful_a to_o do_v it_o without_o their_o consent_n but_o also_o sometime_o necessary_a to_o do_v it_o against_o their_o consent_n of_o which_o see_v chap._n 15._o any_o small_a number_n almost_o of_o person_n so_o fit_v as_o before_o they_o hold_v may_v lawful_o unite_v themselves_o into_o a_o church_n body_n by_o enter_v into_o the_o church_n covenant_n aforesaid_a and_o so_o may_v constitute_v themselves_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n without_o any_o authoritative_a consent_n of_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n suppose_v there_o be_v one_o or_o of_o the_o neighbour_a church_n or_o their_o minister_n r.m._n to_o w.r._n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 43._o robin_n justif_n p._n 181_o 182._o 2._o yet_o a_o truth_n a_o the_o law_n doubtless_o be_v good_a as_o from_o the_o magistrate_n but_o how_o do_v this_o agree_v with_o that_o opinion_n which_o too_o many_o of_o they_o among_o we_o that_o run_v the_o same_o church-course_n with_o these_o brethren_n hold_v that_o the_o magistrate_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o the_o first_o table_n unless_o the_o public_a peace_n be_v break_v he_o be_v to_o force_v no_o man_n against_o his_o conscience_n too_o or_o fro_o but_o leave_v every_o man_n to_o follow_v his_o own_o light_n and_o religion_n also_o as_o it_o be_v a_o agreement_n of_o the_o church_n and_o minister_n i_o the_o rather_o like_o it_o because_o it_o seem_v to_o amount_v to_o little_o less_o in_o substance_n then_o a_o compound_n presbytery_n set_v up_o among_o they_o the_o rather_o if_o we_o add_v what_o the_o same_o h.p._n tell_v we_o that_o they_o have_v also_o agree_v among_o themselves_o that_o no_o man_n shall_v preach_v or_o vent_v any_o new_a or_o uncouth_a tenant_n until_o he_o have_v first_o communicate_v they_o with_o the_o neighbour_a minister_n a_o very_a good_a canon_n especial_o for_o these_o time_n wherein_o man_n run_v a_o mad_n after_o novelty_n and_o nicety_n under_o the_o false_a pretence_n of_o a_o new_a light_n and_o new_a truth_n law_n be_v make_v in_o their_o general_a court_n civil_a that_o no_o church_n shall_v be_v there_o set_v up_o without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o neighbour_n church_n r.m._n to_o w.r._n yea_o as_o mr_n h.p._n inform_v we_o not_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o five_o or_o six_o of_o the_o neighbour_a church_n at_o the_o least_o 3._o the_o he_o the_o here_o be_v another_o ecclesiastical_a canon_n in_o act_n though_o not_o in_o rule_n if_o this_o be_v needful_a at_o the_o first_o erection_n of_o a_o church_n that_o each_o shall_v try_v and_o know_v other_o spirit_n why_o not_o also_o after_o at_o the_o admission_n of_o every_o member_n he_o to_o try_v and_o know_v their_o spirit_n as_o well_o as_o they_o he_o person_n intend_v to_o enter_v into_o church_n estate_n do_v before_o hand_n often_o meet_v private_o among_o themselves_o to_o be_v inward_o acquaint_v with_o each_o other_o spirit_n by_o confer_v pray_v together_o and_o mutual_o examine_v each_o other_o until_o they_o have_v approve_v themselves_o to_o one_o another_o conscience_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n which_o when_o they_o have_v thorough_o do_v in_o private_a than_o they_o agree_v together_o to_o enter_v into_o a_o church_n estate_n r.m._n to_o w.r._n ‑_o h.w._n to_o mr_n b._n 4._o which_o before_o they_o do_v notice_n be_v give_v thereof_o to_o the_o magistrate_n and_o neighbour_a church_n that_o so_o such_o as_o please_v may_v be_v present_a at_o the_o time_n and_o place_n thereunto_o appoint_v r.m._n to_o w.r._n ‑_o h.w._n to_o mr_n b._n ‑_o j.w._n to_o t.s._n 5._o the_o number_n wherewith_o they_o usual_o begin_v at_o the_o first_o constitution_n of_o every_o church_n be_v about_o 7.8_o or_o 9_o ibid._n 6._o notice_n be_v give_v the_o magistrate_n and_o church_n send_v their_o admission_n their_o here_o than_o church_n use_v messenger_n or_o deputy_n to_o represent_v themselves_o and_o to_o act_v in_o their_o room_n why_o not_o in_o a_o synod_n as_o well_o and_o if_o they_o may_v trust_v their_o power_n with_o their_o messenger_n for_o approve_v or_o disapprove_v whole_a church_n much_o more_o of_o particular_a member_n at_o their_o admission_n messenger_n or_o deputy_n to_o see_v how_o thing_n be_v carry_v and_o to_o give_v they_o advice_n direction_n approbation_n or_o disapprobation_n as_o they_o shall_v see_v cause_n ibid._n 7._o the_o day_n appoint_v be_v keep_v with_o fast_v and_o prayer_n and_o sometime_o if_o not_o always_o preach_v of_o the_o word_n which_o be_v perform_v by_o some_o of_o the_o person_n that_o now_o come_v to_o be_v combine_v into_o this_o church-societie_n in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o day_n each_o of_o those_o person_n now_o to_o be_v church_v if_o i_o may_v so_o say_v make_v public_a profession_n of_o his_o faith_n thereby_o show_v his_o knowledge_n and_o opinion_n in_o the_o ground_n and_o principle_n of_o religion_n and_o declare_v from_o point_n to_o point_v the_o work_n of_o god_n upon_o his_o soul_n in_o his_o conversion_n and_o all_o this_o in_o a_o extemporarie_a at_o least_o conceive_v speech_n i._n e._n not_o in_o any_o set_a form_n ibid._n 8._o which_o when_o the_o messenger_n of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o church_n have_v hear_v and_o consider_v if_o they_o be_v unsatisfied_a or_o any_o slander_n by_o they_o make_v their_o objection_n or_o propound_v further_a question_n as_o they_o think_v
may_v how_o can_v this_o stand_v with_o their_o doctrine_n of_o the_o covenant_n before_o which_o ty_v the_o member_n to_o church_n duty_n only_o to_o their_o own_o church_n and_o that_o sacrament_n belong_v only_o to_o the_o member_n of_o their_o own_o church_n and_o with_o their_o doctrine_n follow_v that_o minister_n be_v minister_n only_o to_o their_o own_o people_n and_o can_v do_v a_o ministerial_a act_n to_o any_o but_o such_o as_o by_o call_v they_o have_v give_v they_o power_n over_o they_o which_o some_o of_o themselves_o perceive_v rather_o than_o part_v with_o this_o latter_a which_o they_o hug_v as_o a_o precious_a truth_n be_v content_a to_o question_v the_o former_a of_o the_o communion_n of_o church_n as_o s._n e._n mutual_o partake_v each_o with_o other_o in_o some_o church-ordinance_n also_o church-ordinance_n if_o this_o may_v be_v do_v in_o sacrament_n by_o virtue_n of_o church_n communion_n why_o not_o in_o ordination_n and_o excommunication_n also_o as_o sacrament_n and_o that_o this_o communion_n be_v both_o between_o the_o minister_n and_o member_n of_o the_o same_o ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 62_o 78._o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 29._o apol._n p._n 2_o 13._o ‑_o r.m._n to_o e.b._n p._n 11._o 2._o by_o virtue_n of_o this_o church_n communion_n they_o say_v one_o church_n by_o letter_n of_o recommendation_n may_v give_v power_n to_o another_o church_n over_o any_o of_o her_o member_n for_o excommunication_n and_o the_o deputy_n the_o this_o divinity_n be_v strange_a to_o i_o themselves_o hold_v the_o minister_n power_n be_v not_o his_o own_o but_o concredit_v to_o he_o by_o the_o church_n so_o that_o he_o be_v but_o a_o deputy_n himself_o &_o deputatâ—a_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la deputare_fw-la how_o then_o shall_v he_o derive_v his_o authority_n to_o another_o and_o convey_v his_o power_n over_o to_o he_o as_o his_o deputy_n who_o himself_o be_v but_o the_o church_n deputy_n minister_n of_o one_o church_n may_v convey_v power_n to_o the_o minister_n of_o another_o church_n for_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n to_o any_o of_o their_o member_n cott._n cat_n p._n 7._o apol._n p._n 2_o 14_o 26_o 40._o ‑_o j.w._n to_o t.s._n hence_o the_o infant_n of_o some_o of_o windsor_n church_n in_o n.e._n have_v be_v baptize_v by_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n of_o dorchester_n there_o r.m._n to_o w.r._n 3._o but_o without_o such_o letter_n of_o recommendation_n and_o formal_a grant_v over_o of_o such_o power_n from_o one_o church_n and_o minister_n to_o another_o it_o be_v listen_v be_v they_o be_v very_o tender_a of_o lose_v any_o of_o their_o member_n and_o of_o have_v they_o but_o to_o communicate_v for_o a_o time_n with_o any_o other_o church_n but_o their_o own_o but_o they_o make_v no_o bome_n of_o get_v all_o the_o member_n they_o can_v from_o cur_n minister_n and_o church_n belike_o we_o have_v neither_o true_a minister_n nor_o church_n and_o therefore_o they_o may_v do_v with_o we_o what_o they_o listen_v unlawful_a in_o any_o case_n to_o administer_v any_o church_n ordinance_n to_o any_o church_n or_o member_n but_o their_o own_o or_o to_o admit_v they_o to_o any_o church_n communion_n upon_o any_o pretence_n whatsoever_o apol._n p._n 14_o 26_o 40._o 4._o though_o they_o hold_v it_o lawful_a by_o this_o communion_n of_o church_n for_o one_o church_n to_o admit_v the_o member_n of_o another_o unto_o fellowship_n of_o church_n ordinance_n and_o privilege_n yet_o not_o of_o every_o church_n but_o they_o think_v themselves_o bind_v to_o know_v the_o church_n well_o who_o member_n they_o so_o admit_v as_o well_o as_o the_o member_n themselves_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o true_a church_n or_o a_o false_a a_o pure_a church_n or_o a_o corrupt_a ans_fw-fr 10_o 32._o q._n p._n 29._o 5._o and_o that_o if_o they_o shall_v admit_v any_o member_n of_o a_o false_a church_n they_o shall_v offend_v in_o so_o hold_v communion_n with_o a_o false_a church_n yea_o if_o they_o shall_v admit_v any_o member_n of_o a_o corrupt_a church_n they_o shall_v be_v defile_v by_o such_o communion_n unless_o they_o do_v first_o protest_v against_o their_o corruption_n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 29._o ‑_o j.c._n print_a letter_n p._n 12._o yet_o they_o hold_v no_o such_o communion_n such_o what_o ground_n for_o this_o distinction_n of_o defilement_n by_o church_n communion_n and_o no_o defilement_n by_o religious_a communion_n defilement_n by_o admit_v they_o unto_o religious_a communion_n though_o their_o church_n be_v not_o only_o impure_a but_o utter_o false_a 6._o they_o be_v very_o straight-laced_a in_o deny_v communion_n to_o the_o member_n of_o other_o church_n that_o be_v not_o member_n not_o this_o be_v one_o cause_n and_o the_o chief_a why_o our_o most_o godly_a english_a go_v over_o thither_o be_v yet_o reject_v from_o all_o church_n communion_n there_o not_o because_o of_o any_o personal_a defect_n but_o because_o of_o the_o repute_a corrupt_a estate_n of_o our_o church_n whereof_o they_o stand_v or_o late_o do_v stand_v as_o member_n constirate_v and_o govern_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n with_o their_o own_o which_o only_o they_o conceive_v to_o be_v constitute_v and_o govern_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 82_o 83_o 84._o yea_o if_o a_o company_n of_o approve_a godly_a people_n shall_v sit_v down_o near_o they_o where_o their_o power_n reach_v differ_v from_o they_o only_o in_o some_o point_n of_o church-government_n some_o of_o they_o tell_v we_o that_o not_o only_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v much_o be_v if_o upon_o such_o small_a difference_n they_o be_v so_o severe_a how_o much_o more_o will_v they_o be_v in_o great_a some_o of_o their_o pactie_n here_o plead_v hard_a to_o be_v indulge_v in_o sess_a difference_n yet_o what_o those_o be_v we_o may_v not_o know_v or_o whether_o they_o he_o lesser_a or_o great_a tolerable_a in_o a_o church_n or_o not_o and_o if_o they_o be_v not_o hearken_v unto_o they_o 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