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A50248 A defence of the answer and arguments of the synod met at Boston in the year 1662 concerning the subject of Baptism and consociation of churches against the reply made thereto, by the Reverend Mr. John Davenport, pastor of the church at New-Haven, in his treatise entituled Another essay for investigation of the truth &c. : together with an answer to the apologetical preface set before that essay, by some of the elders who were members of the Synod above-mentioned. Mather, Richard, 1596-1669. 1664 (1664) Wing M1271; ESTC W19818 155,430 150

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the_o promise_n make_v by_o god_n to_o the_o faith_n prayer_n and_o profession_n or_o covenant_v of_o a_o godly_a parent_n that_o live_v and_o abide_v and_o take_v effect_n so_o than_o it_o be_v neither_o the_o parent_n nor_o his_o membership_n but_o god_n covenant_n that_o live_v take_v in_o the_o child_n that_o be_v beget_v or_o bear_v of_o confederate_a parent_n to_o be_v member_n of_o his_o visible_a church_n and_o so_o continue_v they_o till_o by_o some_o rule_n or_o appointment_n of_o his_o they_o be_v cut_v off_o in_o like_a manner_n though_o the_o parent_n by_o his_o sin_n and_o wickedness_n have_v deprive_v himself_o of_o a_o portion_n in_o israel_n and_o be_v cut_v off_o by_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n yet_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n live_v and_o stand_v to_o the_o child_n who_o he_o have_v
desert_n of_o church-censure_n which_o be_v manifest_o the_o case_n of_o the_o person_n describe_v in_o the_o synod_n five_o proposition_n and_o then_o all_o the_o discourse_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o objection_n wherein_o not_o a_o little_a confidence_n and_o spirit_n be_v express_v fall_v to_o the_o ground_n as_o not_o reach_v the_o case_n in_o hand_n though_o beside_o there_o be_v sundry_a mistake_n in_o it_o as_o may_v after_o appear_v for_o suppose_v it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o in_o church_n where_o discipline_n be_v not_o in_o use_n and_o in_o a_o case_n notorious_a wherein_o a_o person_n do_v apparent_o lose_v the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n as_o by_o turn_v turk_n or_o the_o like_a a_o man_n may_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o membership_n by_o his_o own_o apostasy_n and_o wickedness_n though_o the_o church_n do_v not_o through_o her_o sinful_a neglect_n formal_o censure_v he_o yet_o this_o on_o the_o other_o hand_n be_v also_o a_o sure_a and_o clear_a truth_n that_o no_o 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person_n may_v be_v break_v off_o from_o the_o church_n without_o a_o formal_a censure_n in_o some_o extraordinary_a case_n the_o meaning_n be_v not_o that_o a_o man_n do_v by_o his_o own_o wickedness_n be_v it_o never_o so_o notorious_a immediate_o so_o become_v felo_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la or_o vn-member_n himself_o as_o that_o the_o church_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o he_o to_o censure_v he_o yes_o she_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o censure_v he_o for_o his_o wickedness_n and_o apostasy_n and_o so_o if_o a_o church-member_n turn_n turk_n or_o papist_n the_o church_n to_o which_o he_o belong_v aught_o to_o lay_v he_o under_o censure_n for_o it_o and_o for_o such_o a_o one_o to_o be_v a_o member_n till_o censure_v i._n e._n a_o rot_a member_n fit_a to_o be_v cut_v off_o be_v no_o contradiction_n nor_o absurdity_n see_v mr._n cotton_v holiness_n of_o church-member_n pag._n 15._o 5.11_o and_o do_v all_o church_n in_o the_o world_n do_v their_o duty_n there_o shall_v no_o man_n live_v that_o ever_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n yet_o in_o be_v be_v look_v upon_o as_o a_o non-member_n but_o he_o that_o be_v so_o censure_v on_o excommunicate_v at_o least_o unless_o some_o extraordinary_a and_o rare_a circumstance_n of_o a_o case_n do_v render_v the_o church_n cognizance_n thereof_o impossible_a but_o the_o meaning_n only_o be_v that_o where_o man_n have_v palpable_o and_o notorious_o lose_v the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n and_o a_o church_n through_o the_o sinful_a want_n or_o neglect_v of_o discipline_n never_o look_v after_o they_o only_o by_o her_o doctrine_n declare_v against_o such_o but_o haply_o continue_v in_o that_o neglect_n from_o age_n to_o age_n there_o the_o notoriousness_n of_o the_o case_n and_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o rule_n do_v supply_v the_o defect_n of_o a_o judicial_a sentence_n and_o the_o church_n doctrinal_a declaration_n may_v be_v look_v at_o as_o a_o implicit_a excommunication_n and_o hence_o other_o church_n may_v just_o 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tell_v we_o that_o these_o have_v cut_v themselves_o off_o from_o membership_n or_o be_v n●w_o become_v non-member_n but_o to_o come_v to_o a_o plain_a and_o distinct_a close_o in_o this_o matter_n we_o assert_v this_o position_n that_o in_o church_n wa●●ing_v in_o the_o order_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o exercise_v discipline_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n thereo●_n no_o person_n can_v while_o he_o live_v among_o they_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o by_o excommunication_n or_o without_o a_o church-act_n in_o censure_v he_o with_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n the_o sum_n of_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o be_v because_o we_o find_v this_o way_n of_o cessation_n of_o membership_n viz._n by_o excommunication_n plain_o prescribe_v and_o appoint_v by_o the_o lord_n in_o scripture_n and_o we_o find_v not_o any_o other_o while_o the_o church_n and_o the_o person_n continue_v in_o be_v see_v a_o more_o particular_a proof_n of_o it_o in_o the_o preface_n to_o mr._n shepard_n treatise_n of_o church-membership_a of_o child_n late_o publish_a but_o if_o any_o do_v affirm_v there_o be_v another_o way_n it_o lie_v on_o they_o to_o show_v and_o prove_v it_o let_v we_o now_o consider_v whether_o that_o be_v do_v by_o all_o that_o be_v here_o further_o say_v preface_n when_o whitgift_n say_v that_o papist_n and_o atheist_n may_v still_o remain_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n mr._n parker_n tell_v he_o that_o even_o a_o veritius_fw-la will_v condemn_v he_o and_o it_o be_v no_o new_a doctrine_n in_o the_o school_n to_o say_v that_o a_o heretical_a apostate_n be_v no_o more_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n than_o a_o wound_n a_o s●re_n a_o brand_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o man_n as_o e●ery_o one_o know_v that_o be_v mediocritèr_fw-la doctus_fw-la in_o scholasii●al_a divinity_n therefore_o we_o conclude_v that_o church-member_n may_v become_v no_o member_n by_o their_o own_o defection_n ans._n sure_o he_o that_o be_v but_o medi●critèr_fw-la doctus_fw-la in_o scholastical_a or_o chemical_a divinity_n may_v easy_o know_v that_o here_o be_v the_o show_n of_o a_o argument_n or_o of_o authority_n of_o writer_n wit●_n out_o the_o substance_n of_o either_o for_o when_o our_o divine_n against_o the_o papist_n do_v so_o often_o over_o say_v that_o wicked_a or_o unregenerate_a person_n be_v but_o equivocal_o or_o improper_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o nail_n ha●r_n sore_n and_o superfluous_a hu_o ●urs_n or_o as_o a_o wooden_a leg._n a_o glass_n eye_n etc._n etc._n be_v member_n of_o the_o live_a body_n of_o a_o man_n they_o mean_v it_o proper_o with_o reference_n to_o the_o invisible_a mystical_a church_n or_o to_o the_o visible_a church_n consider_v in_o its_o internal_a spiritual_a live_a state_n 1113._o not_o with_o reference_n to_o man_n external_a stand_n or_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n nor_o do_v they_o ever_o dream_v that_o man_n be_v by_o the_o want_n of_o internal_a gracious_a qualification_n cut_v off_o from_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n without_o any_o church-censure_n it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o they_o reckon_v hypocrite_n and_o secret_o unregenerate_a person_n as_o well_o as_o heretical_a apostate_n or_o the_o openly-wicked_n to_o be_v but_o equivocaliy_v of_o the_o church_n viz._n in_o comparison_n and_o contradistinction_n to_o the_o true_a and_o live_a member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n ●nd_v as_o ●aul_v di●tinguishes_n between_o israel_n and_o they_o that_o be_v of_o israel_n rom._n 9.6_o and_o say_v he_o be_v not_o a_o jew_n i._n e._n not_o a_o jew_n indeed_o and_o accept_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n who_o be_v ●ut_v outward_o ●n●_n rom._n 2.28_o 29._o but_o will_v you_o therefore_o say_v that_o a_o close_a hypocrite_n un●e●bers_v himself_o and_o f●lls_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n without_o
it_o not_o a_o vain_a thing_n the_o person_n who_o you_o be_v about_o to_o disown_n be_v either_o within_o the_o church_n or_o without_o a_o member_n or_o not_o a_o member_n 17._o if_o he_o be_v within_o why_o may_v you_o not_o judge_v and_o censure_v he_o with_o the_o censure_n of_o cut_v off_o or_o cast_v out_o i._n e._n excommunication_n 1_o cor._n 5.12_o 13._o there_o be_v cause_n for_o it_o if_o he_o be_v without_o why_o shall_v you_o disow_v he_o any_o more_o than_o you_o do_v non-member_n or_o such_o as_o be_v never_o join_v to_o the_o church_n will_v it_o not_o seem_v a_o strange_a and_o vain_a thing_n if_o the_o church_n shall_v put_v forth_o a_o solemn_a public_a act_n to_o disow_v a_o company_n of_o non-member_n that_o be_v without_o the_o church_n to_o what_o purpose_n shall_v this_o be_v how_o act_v 8.21_o here_o cite_v in_o the_o margin_n shall_v make_v for_o this_o disow_n we_o understand_v not_o peter_n there_o tell_v simon_n magus_n that_o he_o be_v far_o from_o have_v any_o part_n or_o lot_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o confer_v the_o extraordinary_a gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o he_o never_o have_v but_o ambitious_o aspire_v after_o but_o do_v not_o declare_v that_o he_o have_v discovenant_v himself_o or_o have_v lose_v his_o membership_n which_o he_o once_o have_v and_o whatever_o become_v of_o simon_n magus_n afterward_o of_o which_o the_o scripture_n be_v silent_a and_o story_n uncertain_a there_o be_v no_o ground_n to_o think_v that_o he_o be_v then_o put_v out_o of_o the_o church_n or_o lose_v his_o membership_n but_o rather_o the_o apostle_n by_o grave_a apostolical_a rebuke_n and_o counsel_n apply_v himself_o to_o he_o as_o to_o one_o in_o the_o church_n to_o bring_v he_o to_o repentance_n and_o to_o that_o sincerity_n of_o grace_n which_o he_o yet_o want_v vers●_n 22_o 13._o as_o for_o the_o reason_n here_o render_v why_o excommunication_n agree_v not_o to_o the_o child_n in_o question_n viz._n because_o it_o be_v applicable_a to_o none_o but_o those_o who_o have_v be_v in_o full_a communion_n 57_o this_o be_v but_o a_o beg_n of_o the_o question_n and_o carry_v not_o evidence_n of_o truth_n with_o it_o 〈◊〉_d excommunication_n i._n e._n the_o utmost_a censure_n so_o call_v do_v not_o proper_o or_o next_o debar_v or_o exclude_v from_o full_a communion_n but_o it_o cut_v off_o from_o membership_n render_v a_o person_n as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n mat._n 18.17_o and_o so_o from_o that_o communion_n that_o belong_v to_o a_o member_n as_o such_o when_o a_o person_n that_o have_v stand_v for_o some_o time_n admonish_v be_v afterward_o for_o his_o contumacy_n excommunicate_v it_o be_v not_o excommunication_n that_o do_v immediate_o and_o proper_o put_v he_o out_o of_o full_a communion_n for_o that_o be_v do_v by_o admonition_n whereby_o be_v ecclesiastical_o unclean_a he_o be_v just_o suspend_v from_o eat_v of_o the_o holy_a thing_n but_o excommunication_n cut_v he_o off_o from_o membership_n which_o admonition_n do_v not_o hence_o it_o be_v not_o full_a communion_n but_o membership_n that_o do_v proper_o and_o formal_o render_v a_o person_n a_o subject_a capable_a of_o excommunication_n hence_o it_o agree_v to_o all_o that_o be_v member_n though_o they_o have_v not_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n and_o every_o member_n have_v some_o communion_n though_o not_o full_a communion_n and_o therefore_o may_v be_v excommunicate_v paul_n when_o he_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o church_n judicial_a proceed_n and_o that_o unto_o excommunication_n make_v it_o applicable_a to_o all_o that_o be_v within_o 1_o cor._n 5.12_o if_o in_o full_a communion_n yet_o church-judgement_n f●lls_v upon_o they_o not_o as_o in_o full_a communion_n but_o as_o within_o the_o cast_v out_o of_o cain_n and_o ishmael_n the_o cut_n off_o of_o the_o bear_v member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n from_o their_o people_n a_o expression_n often_o use_v the_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n matth._n 8.12_o do_v at_o least_o by_o consequence_n and_o by_o proportion_n and_o parity_n of_o reason_n show_v that_o the_o child_n in_o question_n may_v be_v cast_v out_o and_o cut_v off_o from_o the_o church_n by_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n as_o for_o that_o term_n of_o formal_a excommunication_n we_o know_v not_o that_o we_o be_v limit_v to_o this_o or_o that_o precise_a form_n of_o word_n in_o excommunicate_v one_o sort_n or_o other_o but_o the_o formal_a nature_n of_o the_o thing_n viz._n a_o put_n of_o one_o out_o of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v before_o in_o it_o this_o well_o agree_v to_o the_o person_n in_o question_n we_o pass_v by_o the_o five_o and_o last_o objection_n which_o charge_v our_o dissent_v brethren_n with_o weakness_n ignorance_n etc._n etc._n as_o contain_v nothing_o that_o be_v argumentative_a to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n neither_o do_v we_o own_o the_o objection_n unless_o it_o be_v against_o ourselves_o who_o be_v as_o we_o have_v acknowledge_v in_o our_o preface_n to_o the_o synod_n conclusion_n poor_a feeble_a frail_a man_n desire_v not_o to_o trust_v unto_o or_o boast_v of_o any_o strength_n of_o our_o own_o which_o be_v none_o at_o all_o but_o only_a to_o the_o strength_n and_o grace_n of_o jesus_n christ_n withal_o acknowledge_v that_o grace_n of_o he_o whereby_o he_o do_v vouchsafe_v sometime_o to_o reveal_v his_o truth_n unto_o babe_n we_o tender_v only_a scripture_n and_o scripture-argument_n for_o that_o which_o we_o maintan_o desire_v that_o they_o may_v be_v impartial_o consider_v without_o challenge_v to_o ourselves_o or_o plead_v for_o the_o reputation_n of_o strength_n or_o wisdom_n in_o dispute_n of_o this_o nature_n it_o be_v impossible_a but_o that_o e●ch_a part_n shall_v look_v upon_o the_o argument_n on_o either_o hand_n as_o strong_a or_o weak_a according_a as_o they_o be_v persuade_v but_o can_v we_o not_o deal_v with_o argument_n without_o be_v suppose_v to_o reflect_v upon_o the_o person_n each_o of_o other_o we_o suppose_v you_o do_v not_o see_v sufficient_a strength_n in_o our_o argument_n for_o then_o you_o will_v judge_v as_o we_o do_v and_o in_o that_o sense_n you_o do_v impute_v weakness_n to_o they_o in_o the_o like_a sense_n do_v we_o unto_o you_o but_o desire_v to_o do_v it_o without_o any_o harsh_a reflection_n upon_o the_o person_n of_o our_o brethren_n and_o without_o lifting_n up_o in_o ourselves_o who_o have_v cause_n enough_o to_o lie_v in_o the_o dust_n before_o god_n and_o man_n but_o here_o our_o brethren_n take_v occasion_n to_o set_v down_o the_o reason_n of_o their_o dissent_n from_o the_o synod_n which_o make_v up_o a_o second_o main_a part_n of_o this_o preface_n the_o consideration_n whereof_o we_o shall_v now_o address_v ourselves_o unto_o reason_n 1._o the_o synod_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v true_a save_a faith_n in_o the_o parent_n according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o rational_a charity_n or_o else_o the_o ch●l●e_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v but_o they_o will_v not_o let_v this_o which_o themselves_o acknowledge_v be_v set_v down_o though_o our_o unity_n lie_v at_o the_o stake_n for_o it_o answ._n the_o regular_a receiver_n of_o the_o truth_n be_v one_o that_o divide_v the_o hoof_n as_o well_o as_o chew_n the_o cud_n one_o that_o do_v not_o take_v all_o in_o a_o lump_n but_o distinguish_v and_o right_o divide_v between_o thing_n that_o differ_v we_o be_v to_o distinguish_v here_o 1._o between_o faith_n in_o the_o be_v or_o first_o beginning_n of_o it_o whereby_o one_o be_v or_o be_v repute_v to_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o a_o believer_n the_o charitable_a judgement_n whereof_o run_v upon_o a_o great_a latitude_n and_o faith_n in_o the_o special_a exercise_n of_o it_o whereby_o one_o be_v fit_a for_o that_o special_a communion_n with_o and_o active_a fruition_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v the_o scope_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n unto_o the_o visible_a discovery_n whereof_o more_o lively_a fruit_n and_o more_o experience_a operation_n of_o faith_n be_v requisite_a 2._o distinguish_v between_o the_o internal_a grace_n itself_o which_o be_v require_v of_o they_o that_o partake_v of_o sacrament_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n and_o those_o external_a sign_n of_o that_o grace_n which_o the_o church_n be_v to_o proceed_v upon_o in_o her_o admission_n of_o person_n unto_o sacrament_n these_o two_o distinction_n be_v attend_v and_o right_o apply_v will_v help_v to_o clear_v both_o the_o truth_n itself_o in_o this_o matter_n from_o mistake_n and_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o synod_n from_o those_o uncomfortable_a reflection_n that_o be_v here_o cast_v upon_o they_o the_o former_a of_o these_o distinction_n and_o the_o application_n thereof_o to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n we_o have_v in_o dr._n ames_n 17._o child_n say_v he_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o partake_v of_o all_o church
to_o he_o other_o way_n so_o in_o the_o church_n membership_n or_o memberly_n relation_n be_v not_o existent_a in_o particular_a person_n without_o some_o communion_n flow_v from_o it_o nor_o yet_o without_o some_o qualification_n unto_o charity_n under_o it_o more_o or_o less_o at_o least_o ordinary_o though_o it_o may_v and_o often_o do_v exist_v without_o those_o special_a and_o peculiar_a qualification_n that_o fit_a man_n for_o the_o lord_n table_n but_o sure_o we_o may_v well_o distinguish_v especial_o between_o the_o memberly_n relation_n and_o those_o special_a superadded_a qualification_n and_o between_o what_o belong_v to_o person_n in_o the_o one_o respect_n and_o in_o the_o other_o for_o some_o privilege_n in_o the_o church_n belong_v to_o person_n by_o virtue_n of_o their_o memberly_n relation_n or_o mere_o because_o they_o be_v member_n they_o belong_v to_o a_o member_n as_o such_o so_o do_v baptism_n matth._n 28.19_o the_o benefit_n of_o church-watch_n and_o discipline_n viz._n according_a to_o natural_a capacity_n in_o regard_n of_o age_n there_o be_v no_o other_o moral_a capacity_n but_o that_o of_o membership_n requisite_a to_o a_o subject_a thereof_o act_n 20.28_o 1_o cor._n 5.12_o and_o a_o share_n in_o the_o common_a legacy_n of_o the_o covenant_n rom._n 3.1_o 2._o &_o 9.4_o act_n 3.25_o 26._o mere_a membership_n or_o membership_n alone_o gives_z right_a to_o these_o thing_n but_o there_o be_v other_o privilege_n in_o the_o church_n that_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o member_n as_o such_o or_o to_o person_n mere_o because_o they_o be_v member_n but_o to_o member_n as_o clothe_v with_o such_o and_o such_o special_a qualification_n so_o the_o passover_n and_o other_o holy_a thing_n of_o old_a and_o so_o the_o lord_n supper_n now_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o now_o thus_o to_o distinguish_v do_v not_o distribute_v member_n into_o mere_a member_n and_o other_o but_o it_o distribute_v privilege_n unto_o their_o proper_a subject_n and_o state_n the_o immediate_a right_n unto_o each_o sort_n of_o privilege_n upon_o its_o proper_a basis._n if_o we_o say_v that_o government_n of_o a_o family_n do_v not_o belong_v to_o person_n mere_o because_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o family_n do_v we_o thereby_o set_v up_o a_o sort_n of_o mere_a member_n thereof_o that_o have_v no_o family-benefit_n but_o only_o a_o titulary_a relation_n to_o it_o &_o c_o indeed_o such_o a_o say_n will_v import_v that_o in_o a_o family_n there_o be_v some_o that_o be_v governor_n and_o some_o that_o be_v not_o governor_n of_o it_o as_o also_o that_o one_o may_v be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o family_n and_o yet_o have_v no_o hand_n in_o the_o government_n thereof_o so_o the_o distinction_n in_o hand_n imply_v that_o in_o the_o church_n some_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n and_o some_o be_v not_o and_o that_o one_o may_v be_v in_o memberly_n relation_n and_o yet_o not_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n and_o sure_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o can_v be_v doubt_v of_o if_o child_n in_o minority_n be_v member_n as_o our_o brethren_n acknowledge_v they_o to_o be_v then_o there_o be_v some_o member_n that_o be_v not_o in_o nor_o yet_o fit_a for_o full_a communion_n and_o for_o the_o adult_n when_o a_o man_n be_v by_o admonition_n debar_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o yet_o not_o excommunicate_v do_v he_o not_o continue_v a_o member_n yea_o a_o personal_a member_n in_o our_o brethren_n account_n and_o yet_o be_v not_o in_o full_a communion_n this_o demonstrate_v that_o membership_n and_o full_a communion_n be_v distinct_a and_o separable_a thing_n it_o be_v clear_a enough_o that_o our_o non_fw-mi excommunicable_a child_n do_v continue_v member_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o many_o of_o they_o be_v not_o in_o full_a communi●●_n 〈◊〉_d will_v our_o brethren_n say_v that_o they_o be_v fit_a for_o it_o so_o then_o neither_o the_o logical_a distinction_n between_o what_o belong_v to_o person_n simple_o as_o member_n or_o by_o their_o mere_a membership_n and_o what_o belong_v 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doubt_v not_o to_o affirm_v it_o be_v antiscriptural_a 1._o it_o be_v antisynodalian_a or_o direct_o opposite_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o synod_n and_o we_o will_v ready_o grant_v that_o if_o this_o can_v be_v prove_v it_o cut_v asunder_o the_o sinew_n of_o the_o synod_n strong_a argument_n for_o this_o be_v that_o which_o the_o synod_n stand_v and_o build_v upon_o that_o it_o be_v covenant-interest_n or_o federal_n holiness_n or_o visible_a church-membership_a which_o be_v but_o several_a expression_n of_o the_o same_o thing_n that_o proper_o give_v right_o to_o baptism_n or_o that_o baptism_n belong_v to_o a_o church-member_n as_o su●h_v and_o so_o to_o all_o church-member_n and_o hence_o by_o the_o way_n let_v it_o be_v mind_v that_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o five_o proposition_n have_v comprise_v both_o the_o right_n to_o baptism_n and_o the_o manner_n of_o administration_n the_o distinstion_n between_o which_o two_o be_v often-ove_a mention_v in_o the_o synod_n though_o 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membership_n
baptism_n unto_o his_o child_n whereunto_o be_v add_v somewhat_o out_o of_o bucer_n parker_n and_o mr._n cotton_n as_o concur_v with_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o brethren_n ans._n take_v capable_a of_o receive_v baptism_n himself_o or_o right_o to_o baptism_n himself_o for_o a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a or_o capacity_n we_o may_v grant_v the_o major_n but_o the_o minor_a in_o manifest_o to_o be_v deny_v but_o take_v it_o for_o a_o frame_n of_o actual_a fitness_n to_o receive_v baptism_n we_o can_v say_v that_o we_o may_v grant_v the_o minor_a but_o sure_o the_o major_n will_v not_o hold_v it_o be_v true_a that_o that_o which_o do_v not_o put_v a_o man_n into_o a_o state_n of_o right_a to_o baptism_n for_o himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v i._n e._n into_o a_o state_n of_o church-membership_a will_v not_o enable_v he_o to_o give_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o a_o member_n or_o not_o in_o a_o state_n of_o covenant_n interest_n none_o 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the_o above_o mention_v practice_n of_o antiquity_n in_o not_o so_o much_o as_o teach_v the_o catechumeni_fw-la any_o thing_n about_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o after_o they_o be_v baptize_v indeed_o as_o the_o darkness_n and_o corruption_n of_o the_o time_n increase_v baptism_n be_v not_o only_o defer_v till_o easter_n as_o be_v here_o say_v but_o till_o death_n which_o be_v just_o tax_v as_o a_o abuse_n by_o cartwright_n in_o his_o catechism_n pag._n 182._o and_o we_o suppose_v will_v not_o be_v approve_v by_o any_o the_o arausiacan_a council_n 19_o canon_n do_v not_o concern_v the_o matter_n of_o baptism_n as_o it_o be_v set_v down_o by_o the_o magdeburg_n centurist_n cent._n 5._o pag._n 907._o but_o however_o it_o be_v it_o be_v of_o small_a moment_n the_o overlong_a hold_v off_o of_o adult_n convert_v from_o baptism_n that_o we_o sometime_o read_v of_o in_o the_o four_o and_o five_o century_n be_v a_o manifest_a deviation_n from_o the_o apostolical_a practice_n we_o find_v 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