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A04541 An inquirie and ansvver of Thomas VVhite his discoverie of Brovvnisme. By Francis Iohnson Pastor of the exiled English Church at Amsterdam in Holland Johnson, Francis, 1562-1618.; White, Thomas, fl. 1605. Discoverie of Brownisme: or a brief declaration of some of the errors and abhominations daily practiced and increased among the English company of the seperation remayning for the present at Amsterdam in Holland. 1606 (1606) STC 14662; ESTC S119435 86,205 110

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which_o he_o say_v of_o myself_o i_o do_v in_o deed_n with_o hold_v my_o consent_n towch_v the_o first_o cause_n of_o her_o excommunication_n about_o the_o child_n baptise_v make_v some_o doubt_n about_o the_o case_n aforesaid_a partly_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o husband_n authority_n over_o his_o family_n partly_o because_o of_o the_o objection_n arise_v about_o the_o case_n &_o scripture_n allege_v out_o of_o act._n 16.3_o etc._n etc._n yet_o notwithstanding_o i_o give_v my_o consent_n as_o touch_v the_o second_o cause_n thereof_o for_o her_o fall_n from_o the_o truth_n to_o their_o corruption_n here_o and_o that_o so_o as_o i_o say_v also_o i_o be_v willing_a for_o it_o to_o pronounce_v the_o
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