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nine_o chapter_n chap._n i._n the_o great_a importance_n of_o the_o matter_n here_o handle_v viz._n that_o the_o people_n ought_v to_o have_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o their_o own_o church_n government_n and_o the_o cause_n of_o publish_v this_o attestation_n to_o it_o pag._n 9_o chap._n ii_o the_o method_n and_o order_n of_o this_o treatise_n pag._n 20._o chap._n iii_o the_o testimony_n of_o many_o particular_a late_a writer_n of_o bless_a memory_n make_v for_o we_o in_o this_o matter_n pag._n 21._o chap._n four_o the_o public_a consent_n of_o many_o late_a yet_o excellent_a church_n herein_o with_o us._n pag._n 48._o chap._n v._n the_o testimony_n &_o practice_v of_o the_o best_a antiquity_n after_o the_o new_a testament_n herein_o likewise_o with_o us._n pag._n 52_o chap._n vi_o our_o very_a adversary_n sometime_o do_v acknowledge_v with_o we_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o doctrine_n in_o plain_a term_n and_o sometime_o to_o the_o same_o full_a effect_n special_o when_o they_o deal_v against_o the_o papist_n pag._n 70._o chap._n vii_o consequence_n of_o exceed_v great_a importance_n follow_v upon_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o church-governement_n &_o inconvenience_n intolerable_a follow_v from_o the_o contrary_n pag._n 84._o chap._n viii_o a_o answer_n to_o divers_a chief_a objection_n of_o the_o adversary_n of_o this_o cause_n note_v also_o brief_o their_o immodest_a &_o not_o christian_n like_o reproach_n against_o this_o evangelicall_n doctrine_n pag._n 199._o chap._n ix_o a_o short_a advertisement_n to_o the_o upright_o heart_a and_o christian_a reader_n touch_v this_o write_n and_o cause_n pag._n 316._o a_o attestation_n of_o many_o learned_a godly_a and_o famous_a divine_n light_n of_o religion_n &_o pillar_n of_o the_o gospel_n instify_v this_o doctrine_n viz._n that_o the_o church_n government_n ought_v to_o be_v always_o with_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n etc._n etc._n chap._n i._n the_o great_a importance_n of_o the_o matter_n here_o handle_v viz._n that_o the_o people_n ought_v to_o have_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o their_o own_o church-governement_n and_o the_o cause_n of_o publish_v this_o attestation_n to_o it_o whereas_o many_o thing_n at_o divers_a and_o sundry_a time_n heretofore_o have_v be_v write_v which_o prove_v a_o plain_a necessity_n by_o god_n word_n to_o reform_v the_o church_n &_o church-governement_n now_o in_o england_n very_o among_o they_o all_o there_o be_v almost_o no_o other_o point_n so_o evident_a so_o direct_v and_o full_a to_o this_o purpose_n that_o be_v 1._o chap._n 1._o none_o in_o a_o manner_n so_o absolute_o import_v the_o say_a necessity_n of_o reformation_n as_o this_o do_v which_o be_v utter_o want_v among_o we_o name_o that_o the_o church-governement_n ought_v tâ—â—â—e_v exercise_v always_o with_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n controversy_n one_o or_o two_o maâ—â—â—_n ground_n of_o our_o whole_a controversy_n it_o
be_v true_a another_o ground_n thereof_o there_o be_v likewise_o &_o that_o of_o no_o less_o importance_n in_o this_o matter_n which_o be_v that_o christ_n true_a visible_a and_o ministerial_a church_n under_o the_o gospel_n consist_v not_o of_o many_o ordinary_a congregation_n but_o only_o of_o one_o which_o i_o have_v at_o large_a prove_v to_o be_v a_o truth_n and_o have_v make_v it_o manifest_v in_o my_o declaration_n pag._n 10.11.12_o etc._n etc._n and_o in_o reas._n for_o reform_v pag._n 19.20_o &_o 65.66_o and_o again_o 8._o again_o chapt._n 8._o here_o after_o i_o do_v show_v it_o further_o yet_o the_o former_a point_n in_o some_o respect_n may_v be_v think_v rather_o the_o chief_a because_o this_o second_o be_v a_o dependent_a on_o the_o former_a &_o follow_v by_o a_o necessary_a consequence_n from_o it_o as_o partly_o be_v show_v in_o the_o say_v declarat_fw-la pag._n 13.14_o and_o more_o full_o in_o the_o vii_o chapt._n of_o this_o present_a treatise_n ensue_a again_o that_o require_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n note_v christ_n visible_a church_n nature_n and_o essence_n intensiuè_fw-fr intensiuè_fw-la the_o church_n nature_n intensiuè_fw-la as_o the_o school_n do_v speak_v that_o be_v it_o show_v thâ—_n ground_n of_o the_o power_n and_o life_n thereof_o the_o other_o show_v the_o essence_n of_o it_o extensiuè_fw-la extensiuè_n extensiuè_n that_o be_v the_o largeness_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n &_o just_a extent_n or_o the_o due_a limit_n and_o bound_n thereof_o outward_o wherefore_o that_o require_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n be_v manifest_o a_o most_o proper_a and_o special_a argument_n in_o our_o cause_n and_o such_o as_o touch_v the_o quick_a in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o say_a reformation_n most_o near_o d._n downame_n err_v great_o in_o his_o late_a defence_n make_v his_o first_o book_n thereof_o full_a long_a &_o tedious_a only_o to_o disprove_v lay_v elder_n as_o he_o call_v they_o think_v without_o all_o reason_n that_o if_o he_o speed_v well_o therein_o he_o have_v get_v the_o victory_n whereupon_o he_o most_o fond_o infer_v thus_o 62._o thus_o defenc._n 1._o pag._n 62._o who_o see_v not_o that_o the_o disproof_n of_o their_o presbytery_n be_v a_o direct_a proof_n for_o our_o bishop_n and_o in_o another_o place_n 2.2_o place_n defenc._n 2.2_o who_o see_v not_o that_o upon_o the_o overthrow_n of_o the_o presbytery_n the_o government_n by_o bishop_n be_v necessary_o infer_v who_o see_v not_o very_o neither_o he_o nor_o any_o man_n live_v see_v it_o he_o be_v tell_v sufficient_o by_o his_o refuter_fw-la 10._o refuter_fw-la ibid._n pa._n 10._o of_o this_o his_o vain_a and_o frivolous_a inference_n but_o he_o seem_v so_o in_o love_n with_o his_o own_o folly_n that_o he_o can_v endure_v no_o man_n to_o show_v he_o his_o error_n nay_o such_o a_o mind_n he_o bear_v that_o in_o his_o defence_n he_o go_v about_o with_o pretend_a logic_n to_o make_v this_o his_o idle_a conceit_n seem_v reason_n and_o thereupon_o he_o say_v his_o adversary_n must_v 1.6_o must_v defen_n 1.6_o confess_v himself_o ignorant_a in_o logic_n if_o he_o will_v deny_v this_o his_o inference_n and_o so_o 62._o so_o pag._n 62._o this_o passage_n concern_v lay_v elder_n he_o hope_v will_v be_v acknowledge_v not_o to_o be_v impertinent_a never_o a_o whit_n true_o impertinent_a the_o question_n of_o elder_n whole_o impertinent_a for_o this_o passage_n still_o be_v not_o only_o impertinent_a and_o idle_a but_o even_o a_o false_a defence_n of_o those_o who_o he_o pead_v for_o if_o he_o will_v yet_o hold_v his_o opinion_n still_o he_o have_v not_o logic_n at_o command_n neither_o can_v he_o by_o his_o sophistry_n among_o man_n of_o any_o understand_v make_v that_o to_o seem_v which_o be_v not_o where_o he_o say_v it_o be_v 61._o be_v pag._n 61._o presuppose_v on_o both_o side_n it_o be_v his_o folly_n to_o say_v so_o and_o in_o say_v his_o refuter_fw-la witness_v it_o he_o gross_o abuse_v he_o he_o do_v the_o contrary_a in_o the_o same_o place_n which_o he_o allege_v out_o of_o he_o for_o the_o doctor_n leave_v out_o his_o refuter_n word_n present_o follow_v those_o which_o he_o allege_v which_o late_a word_n be_v flat_a against_o he_o so_o just_o and_o true_o our_o doctor_n deal_v in_o his_o writing_n like_o to_o this_o be_v his_o great_a boast_n which_o he_o make_v here_o in_o his_o book_n and_o often_o afterward_o also_o viz._n that_o he_o have_v find_v out_o two_o sort_n of_o disciplinarian_o as_o he_o wisedometerm_v they_o one_o 2.147_o one_o defenc._n 1.60_o and_o 2.147_o elder_n and_o more_o learned_a the_o chief_a of_o who_o he_o say_v be_v calvin_n and_o beza_n another_o new_a shallow_a and_o ignorant_a sort_n of_o who_o he_o make_v 82.130_o make_v defenc._n 2.2_o 82.130_o master_n cartwright_n chief_a adjoin_v other_o of_o we_o since_o unto_o he_o but_o what_o difference_n â—ndeth_v he_o in_o these_o disciplinarian_o forsooth_o the_o elder_n he_o say_v hold_v presbytery_n in_o city_n to_o govern_v â—hole_a diocese_n and_o province_n and_o â—erein_o he_o avouch_v 2.2_o avouch_v defenc._n 2.2_o they_o join_v with_o â—e_a bishop_n in_o england_n against_o the_o new_a sort_n of_o â—isciplinarians_n the_o new_a sort_n 1.60_o sort_n defen_n 1.60_o bold_o and_o ignorant_o hold_v parishional_a presbytery_n naythis_n doctor_n slander_v either_o ignorant_o or_o malicious_o for_o we_o who_o he_o make_v of_o the_o new_a shallow_a â—nd_v ignorant_a sort_n we_o i_o say_v substance_n we_o agree_v with_o calvin_n &_o beza_n in_o substance_n differ_v not_o â—ne_a hair_n from_o calvin_n and_o beza_n touch_v the_o substance_n of_o this_o matter_n we_o as_o they_o &_o they_o as_o we_o do_v acknowledge_v both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o that_o â—s_n both_o the_o parishional_a and_o the_o diocesan_n presbytery_n yea_o the_o provincial_n and_o large_a too_o if_o occasion_n serve_v â—t_z be_v false_a which_o he_o impute_v to_o calvinâ—nd_n â—nd_z beza_n that_o they_o maintain_v the_o church-governement_n by_o diocesan_n &_o provincial_n presbytery_n absolute_o without_o any_o relation_n to_o the_o people_n consent_n in_o the_o ordinary_a congregation_n also_o that_o herein_o they_o join_v with_o the_o bishop_n in_o england_n or_o that_o they_o material_o differ_v from_o us._n all_o which_o god_n willing_a we_o shall_v show_v to_o be_v untrue_a and_o that_o most_o clear_o in_o the_o 3._o chapt._n &_o also_o in_o the_o 7._o &_o 8._o here_o follow_v wherefore_o these_o be_v all_o slanderous_a forgery_n of_o the_o doctor_n devise_v of_o purpose_n to_o make_v our_o innocence_n odious_a by_o all_o the_o shift_n be_v can_v &_o to_o cast_v some_o 1.53_o some_o defen_n 1.53_o colour_n of_o just_a cause_n or_o show_v of_o reason_n for_o his_o leave_v of_o our_o acquaintance_n profession_n wherefore_o d._n downame_n leave_v his_o first_o profession_n to_o who_o heretofore_o he_o join_v himself_o namely_o while_o there_o be_v some_o expectation_n of_o his_o majesty_n favour_n towards_o us._n and_o this_o be_v full_o enough_o for_o answer_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o his_o whole_a first_o book_n see_v to_o trouble_v our_o self_n much_o with_o impertinent_a stuff_n will_v be_v in_o we_o also_o great_a folly_n yea_o to_o speak_v the_o truth_n the_o prosecute_n of_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o defence_n beside_o be_v such_o likewise_o that_o be_v clean_o from_o the_o main_a purpose_n &_o touch_v not_o the_o chief_a question_n between_o us._n indeed_o he_o propound_v one_o part_n of_o the_o question_n well_o in_o the_o title_n of_o the_o second_o book_n of_o his_o defence_n but_o his_o prosecute_n of_o it_o both_o there_o and_o every_o where_o else_o even_o to_o the_o end_n be_v as_o if_o we_o deny_v bishop_n and_o their_o government_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n bishop_n we_o deny_v not_o church_n government_n by_o bishop_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o lie_v &_o malicious_a forgery_n against_o we_o by_o equivocate_a falsehood_n &_o slander_n to_o make_v we_o seem_v as_o if_o we_o be_v against_o both_o the_o express_a letter_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n equivocaton_n equivocaton_n and_o also_o of_o the_o most_o ancient_a ecclesiastical_a writer_n where_o we_o know_v any_o man_n may_v see_v bishop_n &_o their_o government_n to_o be_v commend_v as_o from_o god_n and_o as_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o be_v the_o very_a practice_n likewise_o of_o doct._n bilson_n against_o we_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o perpetual_a government_n of_o christ_n church_n who_o trace_n our_o doctor_n follow_v step_n by_o step_n but_o as_o i_o say_v both_o their_o great_a and_o large_a volume_n about_o this_o matter_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o two_o heap_n of_o equivocation_n or_o sentence_n whole_o impertinent_a &_o such_o as_o we_o admit_v with_o they_o or_o some_o conclusion_n wherein_o they_o plain_o contradict_v themselves_o elsewhere_o little_a cause_n therefore_o have_v
have_v to_o that_o purâ—ise_n handle_v in_o my_o 3._o and_o 9_o argument_n of_o the_o divine_a beginning_n and_o institution_n of_o christ_n visible_a and_o ministerial_a church_n do_v well_o show_v and_o testify_v to_o we_o so_o much_o chap._n vi_o our_o very_a adversary_n do_v acknowledge_v with_o we_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o doctrine_n sometime_o in_o plain_a term_n 6._o chap._n 6._o and_o sometime_o to_o the_o same_o full_a effect_n special_o when_o they_o deal_v against_o the_o papist_n the_o force_n and_o evidence_n of_o this_o truth_n viz._n touch_v the_o people_n right_a for_o their_o free_a consent_n in_o church_n government_n be_v such_o that_o also_o our_o very_a adversary_n sometime_o in_o plain_a term_n sometime_o to_o the_o same_o full_a effect_n do_v acknowledge_v it_o among_o many_o i_o will_v content_v myself_o with_o two_o for_o the_o present_a viz._n d._n bilson_n and_o d._n downame_n the_o first_o of_o these_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o apology_n of_o the_o seminary_n pristes_fw-fr and_o jesuit_n write_v thus_o 353.356_o thus_o d._n bila_n against_o the_o seminar_n part_n 2_o 353.356_o we_o have_v the_o word_n and_o warrant_v of_o the_o h._n ghost_n for_o that_o which_o we_o say_v etc._n etc._n viz._n that_o the_o people_n can_v and_o aught_o to_o disceme_v and_o try_v the_o doctrine_n and_o spirit_n of_o the_o teacher_n &c_n &c_n so_o to_o choose_v and_o refuse_v they_o as_o they_o by_o the_o word_n shall_v see_v good_a thus_o say_v he_o and_o what_o can_v be_v speak_v by_o any_o of_o our_o self_n more_o plain_o and_o more_o full_o to_o our_o purpose_n if_o the_o people_n can_v and_o aught_o to_o choose_v their_o teacher_n and_o to_o refuse_v who_o they_o find_v worthy_a to_o be_v refuse_v then_o why_o be_v they_o not_o allow_v so_o to_o do_v in_o england_n if_o the_o word_n and_o warrant_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v for_o it_o than_o who_o may_v impeach_v it_o who_o may_v resist_v it_o what_o be_v they_o that_o revile_v and_o persecute_v this_o way_n he_o add_v here_o in_o this_o place_n that_o the_o people_n 355._o people_n pag._n 355._o have_v skill_n and_o leave_v to_o discern_v both_o viz._n to_o discern_v the_o teacher_n &_o their_o doctrine_n where_o also_o he_o discourse_v much_o upon_o this_o right_n of_o the_o people_n as_o be_v christ_n ordinance_n and_o press_v it_o against_o the_o papist_n yea_o in_o another_o book_n where_o he_o plead_v to_o the_o contrary_a purpose_n against_o we_o yet_o he_o write_v thus_o 300._o perpet_n gov_fw-mi pag_n 300._o *_o the_o apostle_n leave_v election_n indifferent_o to_o the_o people_n and_o clergy_n of_o jerusalem_n the_o people_n have_v as_o much_o right_a to_o choose_v their_o pastor_n as_o the_o clergy_n that_o have_v more_o skill_n to_o judge_v 339._o judge_v pag_n 339._o well_o may_v the_o people_n interest_n stand_v upon_o the_o ground_n of_o reason_n &_o nature_n and_o be_v derive_v from_o the_o rule_n of_o christian_a equity_n 359._o equity_n pag._n 359._o the_o late_a bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v not_o cease_v curse_v and_o fight_v till_o exclude_v both_o prince_n and_o people_n they_o reduce_v the_o election_n whole_o to_o the_o clergy_n but_o he_o tell_v they_o that_o by_o their_o leave_n apply_v hereunto_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n mat._n 19_o 8._o it_o be_v not_o so_o from_o the_o beginning_n again_o he_o say_v 330._o say_v pag._n 330._o i_o a_o knowledge_n each_o church_n and_o people_n stand_v frâ—e_v by_o god_n law_n to_o admit_v maintain_v and_o obey_v no_o man_n as_o their_o pastor_n without_o their_o like_n where_o in_o deed_n he_o add_v to_o the_o contrary_a unless_o by_o law_n custom_n or_o consent_v they_o restrain_v themselves_o but_o this_o he_o himself_o elsewhere_a answer_v roundly_o 221._o roundly_o pag._n 221._o what_o authority_n have_v other_o after_o the_o apostle_n death_n to_o change_v the_o apostolic_a government_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o from_o the_o beginning_n which_o before_o he_o answer_v be_v a_o full_a confutation_n also_o of_o this_o exception_n as_o also_o where_o he_o call_v man_n ordinance_n in_o church_n government_n 19_o government_n pag._n 19_o corruption_n of_o time_n invention_n of_o man_n and_o a_o transgress_a of_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n for_o the_o tradition_n of_o man_n and_o where_o he_o call_v such_o ordinance_n 111._o ordinance_n pag._n 111._o intrusion_n and_o presumption_n as_o for_o that_o he_o say_v elsewhere_o in_o this_o book_n 82._o book_n pag_n 82._o the_o multitude_n he_o mean_v the_o christian_a people_n neither_o can_v not_o can_v judge_v of_o the_o gift_n and_o ability_n of_o pastor_n no_o more_o then_o blind_a man_n of_o colour_n this_o show_v plain_o his_o variable_a mind_n &_o contradiction_n to_o himself_o as_o for_o the_o matter_n it_o be_v speak_v mere_o out_o of_o a_o humour_n and_o partiality_n against_o we_o and_o that_o his_o lordship_n in_o spiritual_a thing_n over_o christ_n people_n may_v be_v establish_v but_o before_o against_o the_o main_a adversary_n of_o the_o gospel_n the_o papist_n he_o teach_v the_o truth_n as_o the_o scripture_n there_o allege_v do_v show_v but_o here_o in_o this_o last_o place_n he_o turn_v about_o &_o join_v with_o they_o rather_o than_o he_o will_v seem_v to_o consent_v with_o us._n nevertheless_o his_o former_a most_o clear_a and_o sincere_a testimony_n on_o our_o behalf_n can_v not_o be_v blot_v out_o again_o in_o the_o same_o book_n speak_v of_o bishop_n in_o plain_a term_n thus_o he_o say_v 340._o say_v pag._n 340._o they_o have_v no_o power_n to_o impose_v a_o pastor_n on_o any_o church_n against_o their_o will_n nor_o to_o force_v they_o to_o yield_v he_o obedience_n or_o maintenance_n against_o their_o like_n if_o this_o be_v ingenuous_o acknowledge_v and_o profess_v &_o practise_v likewise_o religious_o we_o shall_v desire_v no_o more_o for_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n as_o it_o have_v be_v often_o say_v our_o agreement_n together_o touchinge_v church-governement_n will_v soon_o appear_v but_o he_o when_o he_o list_v will_v tell_v we_o that_o timothy_n and_o tâ—â—s_n who_o he_o esteem_v bishop_n have_v power_n to_o make_v presbyter_n to_o church_n and_o the_o apostle_n also_o 88_o also_o pag._n 88_o without_o the_o people_n or_o their_o consent_n wherefore_o what_o to_o reckon_v of_o his_o say_n and_o speech_n we_o know_v not_o only_o his_o foresay_a agreement_n with_o we_o in_o word_n be_v manifest_a next_o to_o he_o we_o will_v consider_v of_o doctor_n downame_n he_o in_o a_o certain_a place_n though_o it_o seem_v full_a sore_n against_o his_o will_n yet_o through_o the_o force_n of_o the_o truth_n be_v compel_v acknowledge_v and_o yield_v unto_o we_o that_o 4.99_o that_o d_o down_n def._n 4.99_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n by_o right_n be_v seat_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o congregation_n in_o case_n of_o necessity_n wherein_o both_o the_o succession_n of_o their_o own_o clergy_n fail_v and_o 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be_v before_o note_v whence_o it_o be_v that_o doct._n downame_n here_o say_v true_o the_o succession_n of_o their_o own_o clergy_n fail_v and_o the_o help_n of_o other_o want_v the_o right_n be_v devolve_v to_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o church_n if_o the_o doctor_n will_v reply_v &_o say_v that_o this_o power_n and_o right_n be_v not_o essential_o in_o the_o whole_a congregation_n always_o nor_o at_o all_o time_n but_o sometime_o only_o that_o be_v in_o the_o case_n of_o necessity_n aforesaid_a i_o answer_v than_o the_o d._n folly_n and_o want_v of_o true_a reason_n will_v be_v manifest_a to_o all_o man_n for_o what_o soever_o be_v essential_a to_o any_o thing_n at_o sometime_o be_v essential_a to_o the_o same_o always_o and_o evermore_o that_o which_o be_v essential_a once_o be_v essential_a still_o so_o that_o if_o the_o congregation_n power_n &_o right_a to_o consent_v in_o make_v of_o minister_n &_o in_o censure_n be_v essential_a at_o sometime_o as_o he_o acknowledge_v it_o be_v then_o certain_o it_o be_v essential_a therein_o at_o all_o time_n and_o evermore_o the_o truth_n hereof_o can_v never_o be_v deny_v and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o luther_n say_v if_o titus_n will_v not_o finem_fw-la luth._o the_o ministr_n eccles_n instit_fw-la propâ—_n finem_fw-la the_o congregation_n may_v ordain_v minister_n to_o themselves_o and_o of_o excommunication_n zuinglius_fw-la say_v 31._o say_v artic._n 31._o non_fw-la quod_fw-la solus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la hac_fw-la facere_fw-la debeat_fw-la cuique_fw-la hoc_fw-la â—â—â—est_fw-la si_fw-la episcopus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la negligens_fw-la any_o man_n may_v do_v this_o if_o the_o bishop_n be_v negligent_a he_o mean_v any_o man_n appoint_v by_o the_o church_n may_v do_v it_o in_o which_o respect_n also_o that_o sentence_n of_o epiphanius_n that_o 75._o that_o epiph._n haereâ—â—_n 75._o biâ—â—ops_n can_v beget_v father_n to_o the_o church_n but_o presbyter_n can_v not_o be_v to_o be_v refuse_v as_o untrue_a and_o erroneous_a 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can_v not_o be_v deny_v that_o see_v thâ—_n whole_a congregation_n do_v always_o give_v the_o call_v of_o ordinary_a minister_n essential_o therefore_o the_o whole_a congregation_n ought_v always_o of_o necessity_n tâ—_n give_v their_o free_a consent_n to_o their_o minister_n at_o least_o so_o far_o forth_o that_o nonâ—_n be_v impose_v on_o they_o whether_o they_o will_v or_o no._n the_o like_a also_o be_v to_o be_v saiâ—_n of_o their_o power_n in_o jurisdiction_n and_o these_o point_n we_o must_v imagine_v that_o they_o be_v acknowledge_v and_o hold_v by_o d._n downame_n or_o sure_o that_o he_o ought_v to_o acknowledge_v they_o all_o see_v by_o force_n of_o true_a reason_n they_o all_o do_v follow_v from_o those_o his_o word_n which_o he_o affirm_v &_o hold_v as_o before_o i_o have_v declare_v now_o this_o be_v all_o that_o we_o profess_v touch_v the_o pleoples_n right_a tâ—_n church_n government_n for_o we_o deniâ—_n not_o but_o in_o the_o ordinary_a &_o peaceable_a and_o right_a state_n of_o the_o church_n when_o all_o thing_n be_v carry_v well_o the_o chief_a diâ—ection_n &_o sway_v of_o the_o whole_a government_n belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n or_o paâ—tor_n the_o people_n be_v on_o their_o part_n â—o_o hearken_v to_o their_o teacher_n &_o to_o follow_v their_o guide_n obedient_o &_o dutieâ—ully_o 1.41_o d._n down_o deâ—â—_n 1.41_o their_o power_n to_o judge_v and_o to_o provide_v otherwise_o for_o themselves_o be_v when_o they_o see_v their_o guide_n to_o fail_v which_o see_v it_o be_v his_o mind_n also_o set_v down_o in_o his_o own_o word_n before_o rehearse_v i_o have_v true_o affirm_v that_o â—ouching_v our_o present_a cause_n even_o this_o doctor_n agree_v with_o we_o sometime_o in_o â—ull_a effect_n &_o by_o good_a consequence_n of_o â—eason_n from_o his_o express_a word_n though_o at_o other_o time_n he_o do_v as_o some_o report_n cicero_n say_v to_o sallust_n sallust_n sallust_n orat._n 〈◊〉_d cicer._n 〈◊〉_d sallust_n aliud_fw-la stans_fw-la â—â—â—â—d_fw-la sedens_fw-la de_fw-fr repub_fw-la sentis_fw-la of_o the_o common_a â—ealth_n thou_o think_v one_o thing_n stand_v another_z sitting_z of_o christ_n visible_a church_n and_o the_o government_n thereof_o very_o our_o doctor_n do_v likewise_o chapter_n vii_o 7._o chap._n 7._o consequence_n of_o great_a importance_n follow_v upon_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o church_n government_n &_o inconvenience_n in_o religion_n not_o sufferable_a follow_v from_o the_o contrary_n after_o the_o forerehearsed_a witness_n for_o this_o doctrine_n we_o will_v now_o show_v certain_a clear_a and_o necessary_a consequence_n which_o follow_v from_o the_o same_o also_o some_o true_a and_o great_a inconvenience_n to_o faith_n and_o godly_a life_n and_o to_o civil_a authority_n such_o as_o be_v not_o to_o be_v tolerate_v which_o yet_o can_v be_v avoid_v where_o man_n profess_v to_o be_v christian_n embrace_v not_o this_o point_n of_o all_o fort_n i_o will_v here_o observe_v eight_o great_a and_o weighty_a consequentes_fw-la hereupon_o first_o this_o be_v receive_v as_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n consequent_a 1._o consequent_a that_o the_o church_n government_n ought_v to_o be_v always_o with_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n it_o follow_v that_o every_o church_n be_v only_o 35._o only_o as_o be_v also_o show_v in_o the_o declaration_n pag._n 12._o 13._o 14._o 35._o one_o ordinary_a congregation_n and_o not_o any_o proper_a diocesan_n or_o provincial_n church_n or_o large_a understanding_n always_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n to_o be_v orderly_o &_o convenient_o take_v and_o practise_v so_o as_o christ_n intend_v that_o 14.40_o that_o 1._o cor._n 14.40_o every_o thing_n shall_v be_v do_v in_o his_o church_n for_o where_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n be_v orderly_a and_o convenient_o practise_v always_o in_o the_o church_n government_n there_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n can_v not_o be_v so_o large_a as_o a_o diocese_n much_o less_o as_o a_o province_n or_o nation_n and_o least_o of_o all_o so_o large_a as_o a_o universal_a church_n see_v all_o this_o people_n can_v not_o possible_o by_o any_o mean_n give_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o the_o ordinary_a church-governement_n neither_o can_v any_o person_n take_v it_o of_o all_o they_o just_o orderly_o and_o convenient_o this_o to_o say_v the_o truth_n be_v not_o possible_a for_o in_o such_o a_o state_n when_o only_o some_o main_a part_n of_o the_o church_n government_n be_v exercise_v it_o will_v be_v always_o with_o much_o defect_n and_o also_o with_o great_a disturbance_n and_o tumult_n oftentimes_o i_o say_v where_o it_o be_v extend_v so_o large_o &_o so_o wide_a &_o with_o concurrence_n of_o such_o multitude_n of_o people_n this_o be_v true_a first_o in_o very_a reason_n and_o withal_o often_o experience_n have_v show_v it_o in_o former_a time_n under_o most_o christian_a &_o careful_a prince_n after_o the_o nicen_n council_n as_o 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their_o church-governement_n which_o the_o whole_a
many_o good_a reason_n which_o here_o i_o pass_v over_o but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o approve_v the_o government_n of_o a_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a of_o which_o all_o our_o question_n be_v where_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n be_v whole_o and_o altogether_o deny_v they_o such_o as_o i_o know_v not_o clear_o either_o at_o this_o day_n to_o be_v or_o to_o have_v be_v any_o where_o but_o under_o the_o papacy_n and_o now_o in_o england_n certain_o against_o this_o that_o be_v the_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o government_n all_o our_o controversy_n at_o this_o day_n be_v intend_v which_o also_o i_o have_v note_v in_o my_o declaration_n pag._n 21._o 22._o so_o that_o the_o diocesan_n church_n which_o i_o absolute_o speak_v against_o in_o etc._n in_o in_o reas._n for_o reform_v exposition_n of_o the_o a_o com._n the_o divine_a beginning_n &_o institution_n of_o christ_n visible_a church_n etc._n etc._n other_o place_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o this_o proper_a dioc._n church_n &_o so_o likewise_o questionless_a it_o be_v mean_v in_o the_o offer_n of_o disputation_n and_o in_o the_o petition_n for_o toleration_n also_o now_o no_o proof_n can_v be_v make_v from_o the_o law_n fullness_n or_o toleration_n of_o the_o improper_a piocesan_n church_n for_o the_o lawfulness_n or_o tolerablenes_n of_o the_o proper_a diocese_n church_n because_o they_o differ_v formal_o &_o essential_o as_o elsewhere_o 35._o elsewhere_o declarat_fw-la pag._n 12._o 13._o 34._o 35._o i_o have_v show_v these_o can_v not_o by_o any_o mean_n sustifye_v the_o one_o the_o other_o in_o which_o respect_n d._n downame_n foul_a abuse_v of_o christian_a people_n in_o his_o defence_n by_o his_o perpetual_a equivocate_a and_o bring_v in_o infinite_a matter_n which_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o intent_n of_o our_o question_n be_v to_o be_v mark_v and_o consider_v of_o all_o man_n for_o he_o take_v in_o hand_n to_o prove_v our_o diocesan_n or_o rather_o provincial_n church_n in_o england_n and_o our_o bishop_n who_o do_v all_o thing_n in_o ecclesiastical_a government_n without_o any_o free_a consent_n of_o the_o several_a congregation_n to_o be_v for_o the_o substance_n of_o their_o call_n and_o condition_n apostolical_a he_o plead_v only_o in_o general_a for_o diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a and_o for_o bishop_n in_o general_n his_o proof_n such_o as_o they_o be_v be_v only_o for_o the_o improper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a and_o for_o their_o bishop_n as_o if_o simple_o we_o do_v deny_v they_o or_o as_o if_o our_o diocesan_n church_n and_o bishop_n in_o england_n be_v such_o what_o intolerable_a double_n and_o deceive_v of_o god_n people_n be_v this_o what_o alter_v the_o question_n what_o equivocate_a as_o bad_a as_o jesuitical_a this_o be_v all_o that_o he_o do_v in_o his_o second_o book_n of_o the_o say_a defence_n where_o the_o proper_a place_n be_v for_o this_o point_n and_o where_o be_v the_o very_a foundation_n of_o all_o his_o write_n beside_o yea_o indeed_o he_o do_v nothing_o else_o throughont_v his_o whole_a defence_n wherefore_o even_o this_o which_o here_o be_v speak_v be_v enough_o for_o a_o just_a confutation_n of_o his_o say_a whole_a defence_n the_o very_a like_o deal_v doctor_n bilson_n use_v also_o in_o his_o perpetual_a government_n chap_v 12.13.14_o where_o he_o deal_v about_o bishop_n and_o diocese_n out_o of_o the_o father_n chief_o in_o pag._n 260._o where_o he_o set_v down_o 4._o rank_n of_o bishop_n which_o i_o deny_v not_o be_v in_o those_o four_o chief_a church_n there_o name_v viz._n jerusalem_n antioch_n rome_n alexandria_n but_o the_o truth_n be_v touch_v his_o purpose_n these_o be_v so_o many_o catalogue_n of_o equivocation_n and_o change_n of_o the_o question_n for_o neither_o be_v those_o bishop_n all_o of_o one_o kind_n and_o power_n neither_o be_v any_o of_o they_o of_o that_o kind_n and_o power_n as_o we_o now_o in_o england_n be_v for_o who_o allowance_n and_o approbation_n they_o be_v 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with_o antichrist_n nothing_o at_o all_o thus_o than_o our_o conscience_n can_v have_v no_o assurance_n we_o can_v not_o have_v confidence_n in_o such_o estate_n of_o the_o ministry_n but_o certain_o christ_n true_a minister_n among_o we_o in_o england_n have_v a_o better_a original_a they_o this_o wherefore_o this_o answer_n of_o our_o state_n protestant_n must_v needs_o be_v false_a yet_o in_o this_o answer_n who_o see_v not_o how_o the_o papist_n do_v rejoice_v triumph_n and_o insult_v who_o see_v not_o how_o by_o this_o they_o be_v encourage_v strengthen_v and_o multiply_v among_o we_o exceed_o true_o it_o will_v pity_v a_o man_n heart_n to_o behold_v how_o this_o one_o point_n put_v life_n into_o thousand_o to_o stand_v up_o against_o christ_n gospel_n &_o the_o liberty_n of_o their_o country_n also_o for_o when_o they_o hear_v ourselves_o open_o to_o ascribe_v to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o to_o their_o mean_n such_o a_o gift_n of_o grace_n even_o that_o which_o be_v our_o 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answer_v the_o case_n be_v nothing_o like_o between_o baptism_n the_o sign_n of_o our_o initiation_n in_o christ_n and_o the_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n in_o the_o word_n there_o be_v express_a warrant_n for_o not_o repeat_v the_o sign_n of_o our_o initiation_n in_o christ_n which_o of_o old_a be_v circumcision_n and_o baptism_n now_o be_v the_o same_o though_o minister_v by_o a_o false_a ministry_n and_o church_n as_o we_o may_v see_v in_o the_o 6.21_o the_o 2._o chron._n 30.11.18_o &_o 35.17.18_o ezâ—_n 6.21_o not_o recircumcise_n of_o such_o jew_n as_o have_v receive_v that_o sign_n in_o the_o apostasy_n of_o israel_n and_o turn_v from_o thesame_a to_o the_o truth_n but_o there_o be_v no_o warrant_n at_o all_o in_o god_n word_n for_o any_o to_o retain_v the_o outward_a call_v to_o the_o ministry_n or_o to_o stand_v in_o that_o power_n and_o authority_n which_o be_v derive_v from_o such_o a_o church_n there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n can_v be_v show_v in_o all_o god_n book_n 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before_o allege_v it_o well_o appear_v and_o this_o be_v sufficient_a for_o this_o though_o other_o answer_n may_v be_v give_v also_o wherefore_o this_o remain_v that_o when_o we_o grant_v the_o descent_n of_o our_o ministry_n in_o england_n to_o come_v lineal_o from_o the_o church_n and_o pope_n of_o rome_n which_o we_o must_v grant_v will_v we_o will_v we_o if_o wedeny_v it_o to_o arise_v essential_o from_o the_o christian_a people_n consent_n in_o each_o congregation_n all_o the_o world_n see_v that_o we_o give_v the_o pope_n a_o main_a advantage_n against_o we_o and_o we_o put_v into_o his_o hand_n a_o strong_a engine_n to_o draw_v we_o back_o again_o unto_o he_o which_o also_o he_o effect_v daily_o upon_o many_o among_o we_o as_o woeful_a experience_n show_v in_o our_o land_n yea_o even_o upon_o some_o of_o my_o very_a friend_n and_o near_a acquaintance_n beside_o this_o there_o be_v another_o point_n of_o the_o church_n government_n unity_n the_o cause_v of_o unity_n namely_o 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of_o spiritual_a government_n whether_o diocesan_n or_o provincial_n or_o universal_a or_o to_o take_v from_o the_o christian_a people_n their_o free_a consent_n there_o be_v not_o in_o the_o gospel_n any_o such_o mean_n to_o unity_n it_o be_v a_o humane_a policy_n a_o carnal_a device_n it_o be_v no_o institution_n of_o christ_n jesus_n unity_n god_n write_v word_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o unity_n who_o in_o his_o word_n and_o by_o his_o word_n with_o the_o help_n of_o the_o ministry_n therein_o ordain_v provide_v sufficient_o for_o true_a peace_n and_o holy_a unity_n among_o all_o his_o people_n for_o he_o say_v 28.29_o say_v mat._n 28.29_o you_o err_v not_o know_v the_o scripture_n and_o 5.39_o and_o joh._n 5.39_o search_v the_o scripture_n for_o they_o be_v they_o which_o testify_v of_o i_o and_o 17._o and_o chap._n 14.6_o rom._n 16_o 17._o i_o be_o the_o way_n the_o truth_n and_o the_o life_n likewise_o the_o apostle_n testify_v that_o those_o be_v the_o maker_n of_o schism_n and_o division_n who_o teach_v and_o hold_v any_o thing_n beside_o the_o doctrine_n learn_v from_o the_o apostle_n so_o that_o indeed_o the_o mean_n appoint_v of_o god_n to_o make_v unity_n in_o the_o church_n be_v god_n word_n and_o not_o one_o superior_a overrule_a minister_n over_o many_o distinct_a ordinary_a congregation_n which_o the_o word_n know_v not_o but_o in_o truth_n such_o a_o one_o be_v the_o very_a proper_a cause_n of_o dissension_n and_o schism_n for_o he_o not_o willing_a to_o submit_v to_o god_n word_n by_o his_o power_n draw_v many_o with_o he_o &_o yet_o he_o can_v light_o prevail_v with_o all_o whereupon_o follow_v dissension_n and_o schism_n and_o then_o he_o with_o his_o company_n be_v the_o strong_a in_o the_o world_n may_v cry_v out_o loud_a against_o those_o few_o that_o dissent_v from_o he_o that_o they_o be_v
schismatickes_n and_o peace-breaker_n but_o look_v unto_o the_o word_n of_o god_n &_o them_z themselves_o will_v be_v find_v to_o be_v the_o maker_n of_o the_o schism_n in_o depart_v from_o the_o say_a word_n of_o god_n by_o their_o tradition_n unity_n the_o true_a cause_n of_o unity_n we_o see_v then_o by_o this_o that_o the_o true_a &_o just_a cause_n of_o unity_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o cleave_v unseparable_o to_o christ_n testament_n which_o man_n not_o willing_a to_o follow_v always_o but_o seek_v to_o walk_v rather_o in_o the_o way_n and_o custom_n and_o invention_n of_o man_n thereby_o they_o give_v occasion_n indeed_o of_o much_o strife_n religion_n the_o true_a cause_n of_o dissension_n in_o religion_n discord_n &_o dissension_n this_o be_v the_o true_a cause_n of_o our_o difference_n in_o religion_n it_o be_v as_o fenseleâ—_n which_o d._n downame_n maintain_v that_o diocesan_n and_o provincial_n bishop_n have_v no_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a can_v be_v cause_n of_o unity_n 〈◊〉_d def._n 2.114_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o none_o of_o these_o can_v do_v any_o thing_n but_o each_o in_o his_o own_o circuit_n now_o what_o be_v that_o to_o christian_a unity_n when_o nevertheless_o there_o may_v be_v for_o all_o they_o so_o many_o opinion_n as_o there_o be_v independent_a provincial_n bishop_n only_o a_o universal_a church_n and_o bishop_n if_o we_o listen_v to_o follow_v man_n policy_n and_o not_o christ_n testament_n may_v in_o deed_n cause_v a_o kind_n of_o unity_n but_o again_o such_o unity_n without_o verity_n be_v unto_o christian_a people_n plain_a tyranny_n and_o we_o profess_v that_o absolute_a unity_n under_o a_o visible_a head_n be_v not_o so_o good_a as_o the_o tyramnie_n of_o such_o a_o one_o be_v mischievous_a christ_n rather_o will_v his_o faithful_a servante_n shall_v be_v prove_v and_o exercise_v by_o schismatic_n than_o their_o conscience_n oppress_v by_o tyrant_n some_o perhaps_o will_v say_v that_o thus_o we_o 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want_v of_o the_o magistrate_n say_v favour_n i_o grant_v mo_z difference_n do_v appear_v among_o we_o than_o will_v otherwise_o in_o which_o case_n yet_o no_o christian_n ought_v to_o be_v offend_v but_o to_o consider_v both_o that_o under_o the_o apostle_n it_o have_v be_v so_o and_o that_o allmightie_a god_n she_o w_v hereby_o that_o it_o be_v 3.67.68_o be_v see_v d._n downam_n def._n 3.67.68_o better_a so_o to_o be_v then_o under_o humane_a tyranny_n though_o pretend_v unity_n doct._n downame_n set_v up_o his_o rest_n upon_o a_o 3.4.6_o a_o def._n 3.4.6_o universal_a synod_n for_o unity_n this_o be_v his_o chief_a buck_n lar_a but_o alas_o how_o vain_a be_v it_o for_o first_o a_o universal_a synod_n indeed_o be_v impossible_a to_o be_v have_v especial_o by_o we_o in_o these_o day_n for_o when_o and_o where_o have_v any_o christian_n the_o least_o benefit_n by_o a_o universal_a synod_n since_o the_o pope_n have_v be_v detect_v what_o a_o mean_n then_o of_o unity_n be_v that_o which_o our_o adversary_n pretend_v namely_o which_o be_v not_o possible_a to_o be_v have_v or_o howsoever_o most_o rare_a &_o difficult_a second_o such_o a_o synod_n at_o the_o d._n stand_v for_o viz._n set_v down_o decreta_fw-la tanquam_fw-la dictatoria_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ecclesijs_fw-la decree_v as_o it_o be_v uncontrollable_a and_o not_o under_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o church_n be_v by_o the_o learned_a etc._n learned_a pag._n 101._o etc._n etc._n 105._o 106_o etc._n etc._n before_o plain_o condemn_v to_o who_o i_o will_v add_v m._n chemnicius_n 3._o chemnicius_n exam._n council_n trid._n part_n 1._o pag._n 3._o condemn_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n for_o this_o very_a cause_n &_o in_o these_o very_a word_n deny_v also_o that_o any_o of_o the_o primitive_a council_n be_v such_o and_o yet_o a_o universal_a council_n if_o it_o may_v be_v have_v and_o other_o council_n so_o far_o as_o they_o may_v be_v have_v we_o allow_v and_o embrace_v and_o do_v 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right_o set_v down_o the_o point_n of_o the_o controversy_n which_o have_v so_o long_o trouble_v christian_a people_n in_o england_n 8._o chap._n 8._o than_o any_o other_o before_o he_o have_v do_v which_o apostle_n which_o whether_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n be_v under_o the_o apostle_n point_n only_o if_o it_o be_v christianly_o and_o plain_o decide_v will_v bring_v great_a contentment_n and_o a_o joyful_a unity_n i_o be_o persuade_v to_o many_o thousand_o but_o the_o proof_n of_o his_o assertion_n here_o do_v all_o fail_v he_o nay_o they_o be_v strange_o abuse_v and_o pervert_v by_o he_o special_o his_o scripture_n and_o herein_o he_o be_v little_a to_o be_v commend_v let_v we_o examine_v therefore_o his_o scripture_n and_o then_o the_o rest_n yet_o by_o the_o way_n we_o will_v define_v a_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n church_n the_o definition_n of_o a_o diocesan_n church_n before_o we_o begin_v with_o he_o a_o diocesan_n church_n be_v a_o society_n of_o profess_a christian_n 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deâ—iver_v multa_fw-la paucis_fw-la yet_o to_o take_v heed_n not_o to_o deliver_v pauca_fw-la multis_fw-la as_o he_o do_v wherefore_o i_o will_v pick_v out_o that_o which_o 〈◊〉_d see_v material_a in_o he_o the_o rest_n i_o will_v â—et_o pass_v in_o his_o first_o chapter_n pag._n 4._o he_o jet_v down_o a_o most_o confuse_a distribution_n of_o the_o divers_a sense_n of_o the_o greek_a word_n ecclesia_fw-la 2.4_o d._n down_o defen_n 2.4_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o we_o usual_o translate_v 〈◊〉_d church_n wherein_o he_o commit_v 5._o error_n pertinent_a to_o our_o question_n first_o from_o this_o in_o mat._n 18.17_o act._n 15.22_o he_o â—ould_v make_v a_o synod_n or_o consistone_n which_o have_v answer_v before_o pa._n 108._o etc._n etc._n seâ—ondly_o a_o nationall_n church_n of_o the_o jew_n act._n 7.38_o which_o likewise_o i_o have_v answer_v in_o reas._n for_o reform_v pag._n 5._o in_o the_o margin_n three_o christian_n nationall_n church_n in_o the_o nobe_a plural_a as_o he_o speak_v namely_o in_o rom._n 16.4_o 1._o cor._n 16.1_o â—9_n 2._o cor._n 8.1_o gal._n 1.2.22_o which_o place_n â—e_n abuse_v &_o pervert_v most_o rude_o and_o desperate_o the_o word_n do_v express_o signify_v nothing_o but_o a_o nomâ—er_n of_o ordinary_a congregation_n parish_n such_o we_o mean_v by_o parish_n â—ath_v of_o they_o assemble_v in_o one_o â—lace_n or_o at_o most_o contain_v 28.29.31.32_o contain_v see_v my_o declarat_fw-la pa_n 10._o and_o 18.19_o &_o 28.29.31.32_o no_o mo_z ordinary_a assembly_n than_o one_o and_o he_o without_o yea_o contrary_a to_o the_o express_a â—etter_n fanci_v to_o himself_o a_o nationall_n church_n from_o no_o ground_n nor_o show_v of_o ground_n in_o these_o place_n four_o he_o bring_v act._n 5.11_o and_o 8.1_o and_o 11.12_o and_o 12.1.5_o and_o 13.1_o and_o 14.23_o &_o 20.17.28_o 1._o cor._n 1.2_o 2._o cor._n 8.23_o 2._o thes_n 1.1_o 1._o tim._n 5.16_o jam._n 5.14_o apoc._n 1.4.11.20_o and_o 2.1_o etc._n etc._n to_o prove_v a_o church_n of_o a_o city_n and_o country_n adjoin_v where_o his_o error_n be_v like_a to_o the_o former_a what_o shall_v i_o say_v to_o this_o man_n not_o one_o of_o all_o these_o signifi_v a_o church_n of_o a_o city_n and_o country_n adjoin_v if_o he_o mean_v it_o to_o be_v extend_v or_o intend_v to_o mo_z ordinary_a congregation_n then_o only_o one_o which_o be_v his_o meaning_n it_o be_v true_a the_o church_n of_o these_o city_n here_o specify_v viz._n of_o jerusalem_n antioch_n ephesus_n corinth_n thessalonica_n etc._n etc._n may_v have_v member_n then_o which_o dwell_v scatter_o and_o some_o a_o good_a way_n of_o from_o the_o place_n of_o their_o ordinary_a main_a meeting_n and_o such_o also_o as_o do_v assemble_v often_o in_o divers_a uncertain_a company_n as_o in_o time_n of_o trouble_n there_o be_v reason_n &_o it_o often_o come_v to_o pass_v but_o yet_o in_o those_o primitive_a time_n they_o all_o in_o each_o church_n than_o make_v no_o mo_z but_o parish_n but_o which_o
assembly_n see_v how_o lively_o he_o paint_v out_o and_o tax_v also_o our_o church_n state_n in_o england_n though_o primary_o he_o intend_v the_o papist_n and_o remember_v that_o to_o every_o of_o these_o church_n he_o allow_v a_o bishop_n as_o 104._o as_o pag._n 104._o before_o i_o have_v note_v so_o that_o the_o d._n may_v have_v spare_v his_o proud_a boast_n that_o 7._o that_o pag._n 7._o all_o the_o disciplinarian_o in_o the_o world_n be_v not_o able_a to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v or_o aught_o to_o have_v be_v after_o the_o division_n of_o parish_n any_o more_o than_o one_o bishop_n for_o a_o whole_a diocese_n neither_o shall_v he_o have_v call_v we_o for_o this_o our_o assertion_n 14._o assertion_n pag._n 14._o new_a foolish_a disciplinarian_o his_o worship_n doubtless_o be_v wise_a when_o all_o these_o our_o attestator_n and_o abettor_n be_v fool_n also_o that_o 21._o that_o pag._n 21._o his_o great_a challenge_n to_o his_o adversary_n be_v thus_o answer_v now_o to_o proceed_v he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o probable_a that_o jerusalems_n church_n in_o the_o act_n 89._o act_n pag._n 89._o do_v ordinary_o meet_v in_o one_o place_n i_o answer_v yet_o it_o be_v certain_a they_o have_v not_o then_o many_o ordinary_a set_v and_o constant_a company_n meet_v together_o which_o be_v the_o point_n we_o stand_v on_o will_v he_o never_o see_v it_o further_o he_o say_v 90._o say_v pag._n 90._o the_o apostle_n be_v never_o intend_v to_o be_v member_n all_o or_o any_o of_o they_o of_o one_o parish_n which_o be_v not_o so_o they_o be_v true_o member_n of_o every_o church_n or_o parish_n occasional_o that_o be_v where_o &_o when_o they_o be_v present_a though_o constant_o and_o necessary_o they_o be_v not_o of_o any_o one_o again_o he_o say_v the_o meeting_n act._n 6.1_o &_o 15.22_o 26_o be_v not_o parishional_a burr_n synodical_a they_o be_v parishional_a indeed_o the_o late_a be_v both_o i_o take_v it_o where_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n meet_v first_o synodical_o 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perhapse_n be_v miserable_a and_o desperate_a shift_n and_o what_o forbid_v husband_n wife_n servant_n and_o child_n of_o ripe_a year_n and_o understanding_n to_o have_v be_v there_o hitherto_o he_o have_v labour_v to_o show_v that_o the_o church_n mention_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v not_o each_o of_o they_o only_o one_o ordinary_a congregation_n but_o that_o they_o be_v diocesan_n church_n which_o how_o unsufficient_o he_o have_v do_v every_o child_n may_v perceive_v by_o the_o way_n he_o obtrude_v a_o foolish_a conceit_n on_o we_o as_o if_o by_o 102.104_o by_o def._n 2._o pag._n 102.104_o these_o aforesaid_a place_n of_o the_o n._n testament_n we_o intend_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n still_o remain_v till_o 200._o year_n of_o christ_n such_o as_o we_o hold_v they_o be_v at_o the_o first_o but_o let_v he_o take_v that_o collection_n to_o himself_o it_o be_v none_o of_o our_o meaning_n yet_o where_o he_o make_v so_o much_o a_o do_v about_o the_o space_n of_o 200._o year_n that_o we_o shall_v say_v for_o so_o long_a time_n there_o be_v no_o diocesan_n church_n the_o truth_n thereof_o be_v very_o perspicuous_a and_o certain_a &_o let_v the_o d._n know_v that_o i_o can_v easy_o maintain_v it_o church_n for_o the_o space_n of_o 200._o year_n after_o christ_n there_o be_v no_o diocesan_n church_n therefore_o let_v we_o see_v what_o he_o have_v against_o it_o where_o first_o i_o will_v note_v what_o a_o cavil_n he_o have_v against_o we_o for_o abridge_n and_o restrain_v the_o primitive_a church_n to_o 200._o year_n only_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v in_o respect_n of_o take_v the_o primitive_a church_n as_o a_o pattern_n for_o we_o to_o follow_v so_o we_o restrain_v it_o yet_o short_a even_o to_o the_o apostle_n time_n only_o yea_o to_o the_o time_n of_o write_v the_o n._n testament_n yea_o to_o the_o n._n testament_n itself_o only_o and_o we_o affirm_v if_o any_o do_v follow_v any_o authority_n beside_o they_o do_v profane_o irreligious_o adulterous_o &_o no_o better_o so_o that_o in_o this_o our_o d._n &_o d._n bilson_n likewise_o where_o be_v without_o all_o proof_n in_o christ_n testament_n they_o heap_v up_o father_n upon_o father_n and_o most_o eager_o cry_v out_o that_o we_o hold_v against_o etc._n against_o def._n 2.128.142_o &_o def._n 4._o etc._n etc._n perp._n gov_fw-mi 25â—_n 259._o etc._n etc._n the_o universal_a &_o perpetual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n if_o they_o can_v make_v some_o show_n hereof_o yet_o i_o say_v see_v they_o have_v not_o nor_o can_v bring_v one_o sound_a proof_n for_o themselves_o in_o christ_n testament_n therefore_o they_o use_v here_o but_o a_o carnal_a reason_n and_o contrary_a to_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n they_o 5â—_n they_o jer._n 17_o 5â—_n make_v flesh_n their_o arm_n and_o put_v not_o
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be_v no_o power_n proper_a to_o evangelist_n we_o grant_v this_o whole_o even_o the_o conclusion_n it_o be_v another_o point_n and_o nothing_o against_o us._n the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o 2._o argument_n be_v like_a to_o the_o former_a therefore_o we_o grant_v it_o also_o for_o this_o prove_v not_o that_o timothy_n or_o titus_n be_v proper_a bishop_n which_o be_v the_o question_n yet_o in_o the_o minor_a where_o he_o say_v that_o presbytery_n claim_v this_o power_n comit_v to_o timothy_n &_o tite_n even_o to_o ordain_v examine_v censure_n &_o deprive_v pastor_n i_o deny_v this_o to_o be_v true_a presbytery_n claim_v not_o this_o power_n neither_o have_v they_o it_o proper_o &_o original_o as_o bucer_n show_v 33._o show_v pag_n 33._o before_o proper_o and_o original_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v this_o power_n the_o presbytery_n have_v only_o the_o authority_n of_o administer_a the_o same_o &_o that_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o piscator_fw-la and_o vâ—sinus_n â—1_n vâ—sinus_n pag._n 46._o â—1_n before_o do_v express_v and_o further_o i_o answer_v by_o that_o distinction_n above_o note_v this_o power_n of_o ordain_v examine_v censure_v etc._n etc._n commit_v to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n the_o presbytery_n in_o deed_n have_v and_o execute_v material_o but_o not_o formal_o which_o make_v his_o minor_a proposition_n to_o be_v false_a most_o clear_o his_o 3._o argument_n be_v conclude_v in_o no_o form_n but_o where_o he_o 391._o he_o perp._n gov_n pag._n 391._o say_v the_o precept_n of_o ordain_v and_o censure_v be_v deliver_v to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n and_o to_o those_o that_o shall_v succeed_v they_o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n ergo_fw-la timothy_n power_n &_o function_n in_o this_o behalf_n must_v be_v perpetual_a this_o be_v true_a likewise_o material_o but_o not_o formal_o their_o successor_n be_v to_o execute_v the_o same_o in_o deed_n always_o as_o touch_v the_o material_a action_n those_o thing_n must_v be_v do_v but_o under_o divers_a form_n of_o ministery_n or_o manner_n of_o administration_n here_o timothy_n and_o titus_n be_v proper_o evangelistes_n do_v these_o action_n under_o the_o form_n of_o a_o evangelisticall_a ministry_n sometime_o apostle_n do_v the_o same_o action_n but_o under_o the_o form_n of_o a_o apostolical_a ministry_n after_o they_o bishop_n do_v the_o same_o action_n also_o but_o under_o the_o form_n of_o a_o proper_a bishop_n office_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o these_o action_n material_o which_o timothy_n and_o titus_n do_v prove_v not_o the_o office_n and_o ministry_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n formal_o to_o be_v perpetual_a this_o be_v a_o very_a weak_a conclusion_n and_o very_o crooked_a his_o 4._o argument_n be_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n without_o exception_n have_v so_o construe_v the_o apostle_n word_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n touch_v their_o government_n and_o he_o name_v eusebius_n jerome_n ambrose_n etc._n etc._n d._n rainolds_n answer_v hart_n the_o priest_n 267._o confer_v pag._n 267._o i_o perceive_v the_o pope_n must_v fetch_v his_o supremacy_n from_o earth_n and_o not_o from_o heaven_n you_o be_v fall_v from_o scripture_n to_o eusebius_n even_o so_o our_o adversary_n when_o all_o be_v do_v they_o must_v fetch_v the_o diocesan_n l._n bishop_n office_n from_o earth_n and_o not_o from_o heaven_n they_o fall_v from_o scripture_n to_o eusebius_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o not_o eusebius_n not_o the_o rest_n do_v construe_v those_o precept_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n as_o belong_v only_o to_o bishop_n much_o â—â—5_n much_o see_v before_o pag._n â—24_n â—â—5_n less_o do_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n without_o exception_n this_o be_v a_o strange_a hyperbole_n but_o these_o writer_n acknowledge_v timothy_n and_o titus_n to_o have_v ben_fw-mi bishop_n nay_o not_o diocesan_n l._n bishop_n they_o neither_o acknowledge_v nor_o know_v any_o such_o in_o their_o time_n as_o before_o have_v be_v show_v yet_o only_o of_o these_o our_o question_n be_v again_o they_o hold_v timothy_n &_o titus_n not_o to_o be_v bishop_n at_o all_o proper_o but_o in_o a_o general_a sense_n as_o 238._o as_o pag._n 230._o 238._o before_o i_o observe_v if_o they_o mean_v otherwise_o they_o miss_v the_o truth_n say_v d._n rainolds_n 267_o conf._n p._n 267_o howbeit_o they_o suffer_v none_o but_o bishop_n either_o to_o ordain_v or_o degrade_v presbyter_n yet_o as_o i_o say_v before_o not_o absolute_o with_o out_o the_o people_n consent_n as_o our_o l._n bishop_n do_v if_o any_o among_o they_o incline_v to_o neglect_v the_o people_n herein_o they_o do_v contrary_a to_o the_o canon_n of_o those_o time_n last_o it_o be_v true_a these_o ancient_n to_o much_o rest_v on_o custom_n &_o counsaill_n of_o man_n and_o humane_a policy_n in_o set_v the_o church_n government_n they_o as_o jerome_n incline_v to_o much_o to_o approve_v diocesan_n provincial_n and_o patriarchall_a bishop_n with_o too_o absolute_a power_n only_o ground_v upon_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n though_o they_o know_v they_o want_v divine_a disposition_n whence_o afterward_o antichrist_n easy_o spring_v up_o now_o than_o i_o pray_v with_o what_o colour_n can_v doct._n bilson_n from_o those_o precept_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n plead_v for_o our_o diocesan_n and_o provincial_n l._n bishop_n who_o they_o nothing_o concern_v and_o say_v the_o word_n be_v singular_a the_o charge_n be_v vehement_a the_o party_n be_v bishop_n 299._o bishop_n perp._n gov_n pag._n 299._o and_o how_o vain_o do_v he_o insult_v without_o reason_n charge_v we_o that_o 30â—_n that_o pag._n 30â—_n fire_n will_v better_o agree_v with_o water_n than_o we_o with_o ourselves_o which_o be_v his_o familiar_a custom_n not_o we_o after_o he_o let_v we_o see_v what_o d._n downame_n say_v for_o timothy_n and_o titus_n bishoprike_v true_o in_o effect_n he_o say_v nothing_o more_o for_o he_o follow_v d._n bilson_n most_o diligent_o yet_o he_o have_v a_o cartload_n of_o word_n about_o this_o point_n which_o he_o know_v well_o to_o be_v his_o only_a refuge_n wherein_o yet_o he_o can_v find_v no_o help_n first_o i_o will_v examine_v the_o pith_n of_o his_o discourse_n and_o they_o i_o will_v set_v down_o reason_n of_o i_o own_o prove_v sound_o that_o timothy_n &_o titus_n be_v not_o proper_a bishop_n first_o he_o say_v 75_o say_v def._n 4._o p._n 75_o it_o be_v presuppose_v in_o the_o epistle_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n that_o the_o apostle_n commit_v to_o they_o bishoply_n authority_n it_o be_v untrue_a this_o be_v not_o presuppose_v then_o the_o epistle_n be_v the_o very_a pattern_n and_o precedent_n of_o bishoply_n function_n &c_n &c_n well_o what_o then_o then_o timothy_n and_o titus_n be_v bishop_n i_o deny_v this_o consequence_n there_o be_v no_o truth_n in_o this_o and_o t.c._n answer_n to_o d._n whitgifts_n like_a argument_n be_v sound_o and_o good_a though_o this_o great_a logician_n call_v it_o 76._o it_o pag._n 76._o sleight_n and_o frivolous_a the_o direction_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n about_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n be_v not_o 77._o not_o pag._n 77._o peculiar_a to_o bishop_n as_o he_o untrue_o add_v in_o the_o end_n for_o himself_o give_v this_o power_n and_o that_o right_o to_o other_o christian_n 99_o christian_n pag._n 99_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n and_o the_o truth_n give_v it_o to_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n the_o 4.11_o the_o eph_n 4.11_o superior_n of_o bishop_n his_o reason_n 77._o reason_n pag._n 77._o these_o be_v perpetual_a direction_n be_v a_o excellent_a reason_n to_o prove_v that_o this_o power_n be_v indeed_o essential_o seat_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o congregation_n of_o the_o people_n people_n the_o power_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n essential_o in_o the_o people_n for_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o such_o christian_a congregation_n only_o be_v perpetual_a apostle_n
mean_a that_o any_o first_o presbyter_n in_o a_o church_n be_v formal_o appoint_v to_o 〈◊〉_d diocese_n under_o the_o apostle_n some_o kind_n of_o 89._o of_o see_v before_o pag._n 89._o diocese_n be_v apostolic_a but_o he_o show_v sufficient_o that_o these_o bb._n diocese_n begin_v somewhile_o after_o the_o apostle_n in_o that_o he_o say_v 6.24_o say_v bez._n de_fw-fr grad_v min._n 6.24_o they_o be_v first_o frame_v according_a to_o the_o division_n of_o the_o province_n under_o the_o roman_a empire_n which_o very_o be_v nor_o regard_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n nor_o in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o wherefore_o beza_n mean_v the_o first_o presbyter_n thus_o assign_v formal_o be_v after_o the_o apostle_n &_o their_o abuse_a name_n bishop_n also_o last_o i_o can_v pass_v how_o insolent_o the_o d._n etc._n d._n def._n 3.15_o etc._n etc._n taunt_v i_o for_o observe_v many_o sort_n of_o bishop_n and_o namely_o for_o 7._o for_o in_o reas_fw-la for_o ref_o pag._n 7._o set_v down_o six_o 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audience_n and_o presence_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o with_o a_o general_a consent_n letter_n be_v write_v in_o the_o name_n of_o all_o to_o which_o 11â—_n which_o horn_n against_o fecknam_n pa._n 11â—_n b._n horn_n before_o he_o agree_v also_o nay_o d._n bilson_n go_v further_a say_v 373._o say_v perp._n gov_n pag._n 373._o this_o course_n the_o apostle_n teach_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n to_o follow_v by_o their_o example_n which_o be_v all_o that_o we_o desire_v yet_o he_o labour_v to_o frustrate_v this_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o to_o make_v it_o of_o no_o use_n to_o us._n to_o which_o intent_n he_o have_v 4._o exception_n 1._o â—7_n 1._o pag._n â—7_n paul_n stand_v not_o in_o doubt_n of_o his_o preach_n neither_o need_v he_o the_o consent_n of_o apostle_n or_o elder_n to_o his_o doctrine_n i_o answer_v he_o doubt_v not_o of_o his_o doctrine_n nor_o submit_v it_o to_o any_o to_o be_v censure_v yet_o he_o need_v the_o consent_n of_o other_o apostle_n and_o of_o 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first_o settle_v in_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o this_o can_v be_v doubt_v it_o be_v not_o so_o i_o do_v both_o doubt_v it_o and_o be_o sure_a of_o the_o contrary_n christ_n settle_v the_o moderation_n of_o the_o key_n first_o in_o 18.17_o in_o mat._n 18.17_o the_o church_n his_o commission_n to_o his_o apostle_n be_v give_v 20.23_o give_v mat._n 28.19_o joh._n 20.23_o after_o not_o deprive_v the_o church_n of_o her_o former_a power_n but_o join_v the_o apostle_n &_o their_o successor_n to_o she_o as_o her_o guide_n withal_o two_o thing_n further_a be_v to_o be_v note_v 1._o doct._n bilson_n here_o make_v all_o pastor_n indifferent_o to_o have_v power_n to_o minister_n and_o deny_v sacrament_n &_o censure_n whereby_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o diocesan_n bishop_n only_o have_v not_o this_o power_n for_o say_v he_o they_o the_o ordinary_a minister_n must_v be_v trust_v with_o both_o or_o with_o neither_o 162._o neither_o pag._n 110._o 133._o 162._o 199._o 162._o you_o must_v free_v 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