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A35667 Truth outweighing error, or, An ansvver to a treatise lately published by J.B. entituled, A confession of his faith and a reason of his practice, or, With who he can, and with who he cannot hold church-fellowship ... by John Denne ... J. D. (John Denne) 1673 (1673) Wing D1027; ESTC R11873 57,462 128

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in_o vain_a thus_o god_n deal_v with_o man_n whereof_o he_o complain_v isa_n 49.4_o i_o have_v labour_v in_o vain_a i_o have_v spend_v my_o strength_n for_o nought_o and_o in_o vain_a insomuch_o that_o in_o justification_n of_o himself_o against_o john_n bunyan_n and_o such_o other_o he_o appeal_v to_o his_o enemy_n in_o the_o case_n viz._n judge_n i_o pray_v you_o what_o can_v i_o have_v do_v more_o for_o sinner_n than_o i_o have_v do_v isa_n 5.4_o i_o have_v give_v my_o son_n to_o redeem_v they_o from_o death_n and_o in_o he_o i_o have_v also_o offer_v they_o eternal_a salvation_n which_o i_o have_v invite_v they_o to_o embrace_v and_o also_o endeavour_v to_o effect_v in_o their_o heart_n by_o the_o motion_n of_o my_o holy_a spirit_n for_o the_o operation_n whereof_o i_o have_v wait_v even_o until_o i_o perceive_v all_o my_o endeavour_n to_o be_v in_o vain_a my_o spirit_n be_v resist_v and_o in_o despite_n thereof_o they_o have_v persist_v in_o wickedness_n wherein_o what_o can_v i_o have_v do_v more_o or_o what_o can_v i_o now_o do_v save_v only_o bewail_v their_o folly_n in_o that_o they_o shall_v so_o against_o my_o will_n forsake_v their_o own_o mer●●●●…_n jona_n 2.8_o and_o that_o also_o the_o lord_n frequent_o do_v he_o grieve_v for_o the_o destruction_n of_o sinner_n jer._n 4.19_o my_o bowel_n my_o bowel_n i_o be_o pain_v at_o my_o very_a heart_n not_o that_o god_n have_v bowel_n or_o a_o heart_n like_o man_n but_o the_o bowel_n of_o the_o father_n be_v his_o tender_a mercy_n and_o great_a compassion_n be_v unwilling_a to_o punish_v for_o the_o lord_n do_v not_o afflict_v willing_o nor_o grieve_v the_o child_n of_o man_n lam._n 3.33_o it_o be_v hard_a with_o the_o lord_n viz._n against_o his_o good_a pleasure_n how_o say_v he_o shall_v i_o give_v thou_o up_o o_o backsliding_a ephraim_n how_o shall_v i_o deliver_v thou_o to_o death_n o_o sinful_a israel_n how_o shall_v i_o make_v thou_o as_o adama_n how_o shall_v i_o set_v thou_o as_o zeboim_n my_o heart_n be_v turn_v within_o i_o my_o repenting_n be_v kindle_v together_o hos_fw-la 11.8_o thus_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v like_a unto_o his_o father_n in_o compassion_n when_o he_o behold_v jerusalem_n luk._n 19.41_o 42._o he_o weep_v over_o it_o because_o they_o will_v not_o know_v the_o thing_n that_o belong_v to_o their_o peace_n he_o be_v grieve_v for_o the_o hardness_n of_o their_o heart_n mark_v 3.5_o wish_v it_o have_v be_v otherwise_o o_o that_o thou_o have_v hearken_v to_o my_o commandment_n isa_n 48.18_o o_o that_o israel_n have_v walk_v in_o my_o way_n psa_n 81.16_o what_o great_a compassion_n be_v this_o what_o demonstration_n of_o love_n be_v here_o when_o jesus_n weep_v for_o lazarus_n joh._n 11.35_o the_o jew_n look_v upon_o it_o as_o a_o great_a demonstration_n of_o love_n and_o be_v it_o not_o so_o in_o god_n towards_o sinner_n when_o david_n weep_v after_o abner_n bier_n and_o bewail_v he_o it_o be_v say_v 2_o sam._n 3.37_o that_o all_o israel_n understand_v that_o day_n that_o the_o death_n of_o abner_n be_v not_o of_o the_o king_n but_o far_o contrary_a to_o his_o mind_n and_o sure_o also_o we_o may_v conclude_v from_o what_o have_v be_v allege_v that_o the_o death_n of_o sinner_n be_v not_o of_o our_o god_n he_o never_o determine_v any_o such_o thing_n neither_o be_v he_o any_o way_n the_o cause_n thereof_o it_o be_v far_o from_o he_o whereby_o as_o we_o may_v perceive_v the_o death_n of_o sinner_n be_v altogether_o of_o themselves_o and_o not_o by_o or_o through_o god_n blind_a they_o so_o the_o order_n of_o his_o election_n may_v be_v perceive_v contrary_a to_o john_n bunyan_n faith_n the_o confession_n whereof_o i_o have_v now_o do_v with_o have_v offer_v thus_o much_o because_o that_o god_n be_v much_o dishonour_v and_o many_o people_n deceive_v through_o the_o not_o understand_v these_o thing_n i_o come_v now_o to_o the_o reason_n of_o his_o practice_n in_o worship_n j.b._n pag._n 48._o wherein_o he_o first_o distinguish_v between_o those_o with_o who_o he_o dare_v not_o have_v communion_n and_o those_o with_o who_o he_o dare_v have_v communion_n with_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v concern_v what_o he_o say_v touch_v those_o with_o who_o he_o dare_v not_o have_v communion_n i_o shall_v leave_v he_o unto_o himself_o only_o take_v notice_n that_o those_o who_o do_v not_o profess_v faith_n and_o holiness_n yea_o the_o open_a profane_a may_v be_v near_a heaven_n than_o those_o that_o pretend_v great_a zeal_n without_o knowledge_n our_o saviour_n say_v of_o old_a matth._n 21.31_o that_o the_o publican_n and_o harlot_n enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n before_o you_o but_o i_o shall_v now_o consider_v what_o j._n b._n say_v concern_v who_o he_o dare_v which_o he_o thus_o declare_v i_o dare_v have_v communion_n yea_o church-communion_n with_o those_o that_o be_v visible_a saint_n by_o call_v with_o those_o that_o by_o the_o word_n of_o the_o gospel_n have_v be_v bring_v over_o to_o faith_n and_o holiness_n pag._n 65._o although_o as_o afterward_o he_o declare_v as_o well_o as_o in_o his_o title_n page_n they_o dissent_v about_o water-baptism_n answ_n if_o j._n bunyan_n have_v only_o say_v this_o i_o know_v not_o who_o will_v have_v gainsay_v nay_o if_o he_o have_v tell_v we_o that_o he_o can_v have_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n i_o know_v not_o who_o will_v have_v oppose_v he_o except_o the_o catholic_n themselves_z who_o peradventure_o consider_v the_o error_n of_o his_o faith_n will_v not_o judge_v he_o fit_a for_o communion_n with_o they_o but_o john_n bunyan_n proceed_v to_o persuade_v other_o to_o do_v the_o same_o and_o therefore_o he_o urge_v great_o the_o reason_n of_o his_o practice_n to_o draw_v disciple_n after_o he_o i_o wish_v the_o event_n be_v not_o as_o christ_n say_v to_o the_o pharisee_n matt._n 23.15_o you_o compass_n sea_n and_o land_n to_o make_v one_o proselyte_n and_o when_o he_o be_v make_v you_o make_v he_o twofold_a more_o the_o child_n of_o hell_n but_o before_o we_o judge_v let_v we_o hear_v he_o speak_v let_v we_o weigh_v what_o be_v say_v therein_o i_o ready_o perceive_v he_o have_v learned_a what_o solomon_n say_v prov._n 1.17_o that_o in_o vain_a be_v the_o net_n spread_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o any_o bird_n wherefore_o by_o crafty_a insinuation_n and_o subtle_a evasion_n he_o endeavour_v to_o darken_v counsel_n the_o better_a to_o undermine_v the_o heart_n of_o the_o weak_a that_o his_o deceit_n may_v not_o be_v discover_v wherefore_o not_o sudden_o come_v to_o the_o matter_n he_o endeavour_v by_o fair_a pretence_n although_o mix_v with_o tautology_n and_o incongruous_a relation_n to_o pre-engage_a the_o reader_n quest_n and_o then_o at_o length_n propound_v this_o question_n pag._n 70._o by_o what_o rule_n will_v you_o receive_v he_o into_o fellowship_n to_o which_o he_o answer_v himself_o thus_o even_o by_o a_o discovery_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o holiness_n and_o their_o declaration_n of_o willingness_n to_o subject_n themselves_o to_o the_o law_n and_o government_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n quest_n this_o answer_n be_v give_v he_o offer_v a_o second_o question_n viz._n but_o do_v you_o not_o count_v that_o by_o water-baptism_n and_o not_o otherwise_o that_o be_v the_o initiate_a and_o enter_v ordinance_n they_o ought_v to_o be_v receive_v into_o fellowship_n to_o this_o he_o presume_v to_o answer_v no_o answ_n if_o i_o understand_v this_o answer_n it_o deny_v baptism_n to_o be_v a_o discovery_n of_o faith_n and_o holiness_n or_o a_o declaration_n of_o willingness_n to_o subject_a to_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n for_o the_o question_n be_v do_v you_o not_o count_v that_o by_o water-baptism_n etc._n etc._n which_o must_v have_v respect_n to_o the_o former_a description_n of_o his_o rule_n wherein_o it_o seem_v water-baptism_n have_v now_o no_o part_n and_o in_o truth_n it_o must_v be_v so_o exclude_v by_o j._n bunyan_n opinion_n for_o otherwise_o that_o in_o despite_n of_o what_o he_o have_v say_v will_v be_v the_o rule_n propose_v by_o himself_o but_o herein_o have_v not_o john_n bunyan_n forget_v himself_o pag._n 64._o he_o acknowledge_v water-baptism_n to_o be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n a_o holy_a ordinance_n a_o duty_n enjoin_v to_o such_o as_o have_v receive_v the_o gospel_n before_o yet_o now_o he_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v a_o discovery_n of_o faith_n and_o holiness_n or_o a_o declaration_n of_o willingness_n to_o subject_a to_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n pag._n 122_o 123._o what_o impudent_a contradiction_n be_v here_o a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n a_o holy_a ordinance_n a_o duty_n enjoin_v to_o gospel-receiver_n and_o yet_o no_o discovery_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o faith_n discover_v by_o work_n jam._n 2.17_o and_o by_o what_o work_v if_o not_o obedience_n to_o
i_o say_v he_o be_v conscious_a of_o the_o weakness_n and_o fallacy_n thereof_o otherwise_o he_o will_v never_o have_v spend_v so_o much_o time_n in_o vain_a as_o to_o allege_v afterward_o ten_o other_o reason_n to_o confirm_v his_o opinion_n and_o practice_n when_o he_o have_v do_v it_o so_o invincible_o before_o unless_o therewith_o as_o the_o red_a dragon_n with_o his_o ten_o horn_n he_o be_v mind_v so_o to_o push_v against_o the_o truth_n that_o he_o may_v overthrow_v it_o root_n and_o branch_n for_o the_o prevention_n whereof_o although_o it_o need_v not_o much_o be_v fear_v from_o john_n bunyan_n i_o shall_v adventure_v a_o further_a encounter_n to_o try_v the_o strength_n of_o his_o weapon_n and_o the_o force_n of_o his_o reason_n the_o first_o be_v this_o reas_n 1._o because_o the_o true_a visible_a saint_n have_v already_o subject_v to_o that_o which_o be_v better_o even_o to_o the_o righteousness_n of_o god_n which_o be_v by_o faith_n in_o jesus_n christ_n etc._n etc._n he_o be_v therefore_o to_o be_v receive_v not_o by_o thy_o light_n not_o for_o that_o in_o circumstance_n he_o jump_v with_o thy_o opinion_n but_o according_a to_o his_o own_o faith_n which_o he_o ought_v to_o keep_v to_o himself_o before_o god_n as_o paul_n say_v 1_o cor._n 10.29_o conscience_n i_o say_v not_o of_o thy_o own_o but_o of_o the_o other_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 94_o 95._o answ_n here_o you_o have_v john_n bunyan_n first_o reason_n wherein_o he_o tell_v you_o the_o true_a visible_a saint_n have_v subject_v to_o that_o which_o be_v better_o but_o can_v a_o man_n be_v a_o true_a visible_a saint_n that_o visible_o oppose_v christ_n ordinance_n he_o that_o have_v my_o commandment_n and_o keep_v they_o say_v christ_n joh._n 14.21_o he_o it_o be_v that_o love_v i_o he_o be_v my_o friend_n joh._n 15.14_o and_o our_o saviour_n render_v the_o reason_n thereof_o chap._n 14.23_o if_o any_o man_n love_v i_o he_o will_v keep_v my_o word_n and_o again_o vers_fw-la 24._o he_o that_o keep_v not_o my_o say_n love_v i_o not_o sure_o without_o offence_n i_o may_v add_v be_v no_o true_a visible_a saint_n but_o john_n bunyan_n not_o forget_v to_o oppose_v the_o lord_n christ_n will_v vindicate_v such_o disobedience_n and_o tell_v you_o the_o saint_n he_o describe_v have_v subject_v to_o that_o which_o be_v better_o well_o be_v it_o so_o do_v it_o therefore_o follow_v the_o less_o must_v be_v despise_v i_o hope_v john_n bunyan_n will_v allow_v the_o life_n be_v more_o than_o meat_n and_o the_o body_n than_o raiment_n yet_o the_o lesser_a must_v be_v receive_v for_o the_o preservation_n of_o the_o great_a beside_o have_v not_o paul_n the_o great_a when_o he_o be_v convert_v to_o the_o faith_n yet_o ananias_n although_o he_o be_v inform_v that_o he_o be_v a_o choose_a vessel_n which_o be_v the_o better_a command_v he_o to_o be_v baptize_v act_v 22.16_o have_v not_o cornelius_n and_o his_o companion_n the_o great_a when_o their_o heart_n be_v purify_v by_o faith_n and_o also_o replenish_v with_o the_o holy_a spirit_n act_v 10.44_o chap._n 11.15_o 17._o yet_o peter_n command_v they_o to_o be_v baptize_v yea_o have_v not_o christ_n himself_o the_o great_a to_o who_o the_o spirit_n be_v not_o give_v by_o measure_n joh._n 3.34_o yet_o when_o john_n peradventure_o upon_o the_o same_o account_n as_o john_n bunyan_n pretend_v forbid_v his_o baptism_n matth._n 3.14_o christ_n answer_v vers_fw-la 15._o suffer_v it_o to_o be_v so_o for_o thus_o it_o behoove_v we_o to_o fulfil_v all_o righteousness_n baptism_n it_o seem_v be_v no_o indifferent_a thing_n although_o john_n bunyan_n will_v have_v you_o believe_v it_o so_o allege_v as_o aforesaid_a the_o word_n of_o paul_n 1_o cor._n 10.29_o which_o word_n only_o have_v respect_n to_o the_o eat_n of_o meat_n which_o be_v permit_v although_o not_o enjoin_v wherein_o therefore_o if_o a_o weak_a brother_n shall_v be_v offend_v they_o be_v advise_v not_o to_o eat_v for_o conscience_n sake_n conscience_n say_v paul_n not_o of_o thy_o own_o for_o it_o be_v lawful_a in_o itself_o but_o of_o the_o other_o who_o think_v it_o unlawful_a touch_v which_o j._n bunyan_n pretend_v that_o you_o may_v think_v he_o to_o make_v his_o way_n plain_a it_o may_v be_v object_v that_o what_o the_o apostle_n write_v they_o write_v to_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v and_o therefore_o the_o argument_n in_o the_o epistle_n about_o thing_n circumstantial_a respect_v not_o the_o case_n in_o hand_n to_o which_o he_o answer_v first_o that_o this_o be_v a_o mistake_n the_o first_o to_o the_o corinthian_n the_o epistle_n of_o james_n the_o first_o and_o second_o of_o peter_n the_o first_o epistle_n of_o john_n be_v express_o write_v to_o all_o the_o godly_a as_o well_o as_o to_o particular_a church_n pag._n 86._o second_o that_o if_o water-baptism_n as_o the_o circumstance_n with_o which_o the_o church_n be_v pester_v of_o old_a trouble_v their_o peace_n wound_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o godly_a dismember_v and_o break_v their_o fellowship_n it_o be_v although_o a_o ordinance_n for_o the_o present_a to_o be_v prudent_o shun_v for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o it_o answ_n touch_v this_o as_o be_v here_o say_v i_o must_v tell_v you_o first_o j._n bunyan_n be_v mistake_v and_o sure_o he_o either_o mistake_n or_o forget_v himself_o for_o be_v not_o this_o the_o same_o j._n bunyan_n who_o in_o the_o same_o treatise_n confess_v pag._n 91._o that_o in_o the_o apostle_n day_n baptism_n go_v before_o church-communion_n yea_o he_o further_o say_v pag._n 92._o it_o be_v then_o general_o practise_v by_o all_o disciple_n and_o if_o so_o then_o sure_a the_o forementioned_a epistle_n although_o general_a be_v direct_v to_o baptize_v person_n second_o those_o thing_n which_o the_o apostle_n treat_v of_o as_o indifferent_a be_v such_o only_a as_o be_v permit_v either_o to_o be_v do_v or_o not_o do_v wherein_o many_o time_n there_o be_v no_o expedience_n in_o the_o performance_n thereof_o as_o paul_n say_v in_o the_o aforementioned_a 1_o cor._n 10.23_o all_o thing_n be_v lawful_a but_o all_o thing_n be_v not_o expedient_a wherein_o he_o also_o say_v all_o thing_n edify_v not_o and_o therefore_o advise_v that_o no_o man_n shall_v seek_v his_o own_o but_o every_o man_n his_o brother_n wealth_n but_o there_o be_v no_o such_o indifferency_n in_o baptism_n which_o have_v be_v prove_v a_o necessary_a duty_n if_o that_o be_v a_o circumstance_n it_o be_v a_o necessary_a circumstance_n that_o must_v be_v perform_v although_o j._n bunyan_n suppose_v it_o may_v pester_v the_o church_n trouble_v their_o peace_n wound_v their_o conscience_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o in_o his_o judgement_n although_o a_o ordinance_n to_o be_v shun_v how_o do_v christ_n holy_a ordinance_n ever_o pester_v the_o church_n trouble_v their_o peace_n wound_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o godly_a dismember_v and_o break_v their_o fellowship_n i_o never_o hear_v it_o so_o to_o do_v but_o very_o 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bunyan_n who_o without_o repentance_n may_v expect_v the_o like_a sentence_n reas_n 5._o i_o come_v now_o to_o his_o 5_o reason_n p._n 104._o because_o a_o failer_z in_o such_o a_o circumstance_n as_o water_n do_v not_o unchristian_a we_o this_o must_v needs_o be_v grant_v not_o only_o from_o what_o be_v say_v before_o but_o for_o that_o thousand_o of_o thousand_o that_o can_v not_o consent_v thereto_o be_v now_o with_o the_o innumerable_a company_n of_o angel_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o what_o be_v say_v of_o eat_v or_o the_o contrary_a may_v as_o to_o this_o be_v say_v of_o water-baptism_n neither_o if_o i_o be_o baptize_v be_o i_o the_o better_a neither_o if_o i_o be_v not_o be_o i_o the_o worse_o not_o the_o better_a before_o god_n nor_o the_o worse_o before_o man_n whereupon_o after_o some_o plausible_a word_n he_o conclude_v pag._n 106._o see_v the_o thing_n wherein_o we_o exceed_v each_o other_o be_v such_o as_o neither_o make_v nor_o mar_v christianity_n let_v we_o love_v one_o 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be_v light_o esteem_v 1_o sam._n 2.30_o a_o good_a conscience_n may_v be_v put_v away_o 1_o tim._n 1.19_o that_o there_o may_v be_v need_n of_o the_o formation_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o heart_n again_o gal._n 4.19_o john_n bunyan_n instance_n of_o the_o thousand_o thousand_o that_o do_v not_o consent_v to_o baptism_n which_o be_v now_o as_o he_o say_v in_o heaven_n be_v no_o sufficient_a proof_n that_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v or_o that_o it_o may_v be_v despise_v now_o i_o suppose_v he_o will_v confess_v there_o be_v thousand_o thousand_o as_o much_o in_o heaven_n as_o they_o who_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o christ_n be_v then_o come_v in_o the_o flesh_n but_o he_o that_o deni_v it_o now_o be_v antichrist_n 1_o joh._n 4.3_o and_o notwithstanding_o john_n bunyan_n confidence_n if_o he_o shall_v now_o deny_v christ_n come_v in_o the_o flesh_n it_o will_v unchristian_a he_o i_o may_v give_v many_o more_o instance_n in_o this_o case_n but_o from_o hence_o you_o may_v perceive_v how_o inconsiderate_a he_o be_v to_o conclude_v that_o of_o baptism_n from_o false_a ground_n which_o paul_n speak_v of_o eat_v meat_n which_o be_v lawful_a to_o be_v eat_v or_o not_o eat_v will_v any_o wise_a man_n oppose_v such_o indifferent_a thing_n to_o a_o ordinance_n and_o institution_n of_o christ_n jesus_n sure_o obedience_n to_o express_v command_n whatsoever_o we_o be_v before_o man_n make_v we_o better_o before_o god_n reas_n 6._o i_o come_v now_o to_o his_o 6_o reason_n p._n 107._o i_o be_o therefore_o for_o hold_v communion_n thus_o because_o the_o edification_n of_o soul_n in_o the_o faith_n and_o holiness_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v of_o great_a concernment_n than_o our_o agree_n in_o or_o contest_v for_o the_o business_n of_o water-baptism_n that_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v of_o the_o great_a concern_v be_v out_o of_o measure_n evident_a etc._n etc._n answ_n john_n bunyan_n position_n here_o state_v he_o endeavour_v by_o divers_a reason_n to_o prove_v viz._n that_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v of_o the_o great_a concern_v which_o i_o here_o omit_v because_o whilst_o he_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o he_o mistake_v the_o matter_n in_o question_n for_o it_o be_v apparent_a that_o baptism_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o christ_n ordinance_n be_v the_o mean_v appoint_v for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n and_o if_o so_o the_o argument_n be_v fallacious_a and_o must_v fall_v which_o sure_o he_o be_v himself_o conscious_a of_o and_o therefore_o to_o prevent_v it_o he_o say_v pag._n 109._o know_v that_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n depend_v not_o upon_o neither_o be_v tie_v to_o this_o or_o that_o circumstance_n much_o say_v but_o little_o prove_v wherefore_o in_o short_a i_o may_v answer_v you_o have_v only_o j._n bunyan_n word_n for_o it_o who_o herein_o do_v not_o only_o exclude_v baptism_n but_o also_o whatsoever_o he_o be_v please_v to_o call_v a_o circumstance_n whereof_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v one_o by_o his_o own_o confession_n pag._n 64._o so_o that_o it_o also_o be_v exclude_v by_o he_o from_o church-edification_n contrary_a to_o what_o be_v declare_v of_o the_o primitive_a saint_n who_o walk_v in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n have_v fellowship_n one_o with_o another_o be_v edify_v yea_o paul_n account_v church-discipline_n for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n 2_o cor._n 13.10_o and_o in_o truth_n all_o gospel-ordinance_n be_v for_o edification_n so_o that_o if_o we_o must_v press_v after_o that_o it_o oblige_v we_o to_o press_v after_o the_o mean_n tend_v thereto_o but_o j._n bunyan_n seem_v to_o put_v a_o little_a gloss_n upon_o the_o matter_n viz._n when_o there_o be_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o godly_a different_a persuasion_n about_o it_o than_o it_o become_v they_o in_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n to_o take_v more_o care_n for_o their_o peace_n and_o unity_n than_o to_o widen_v their_o uncomfortable_a difference_n thus_o j._n bunyan_n will_v have_v the_o church_n to_o be_v like_o simeon_n and_o levi_n brethren_n agree_v in_o iniquity_n to_o bear_v with_o sin_n and_o to_o wink_v at_o the_o transgression_n of_o christ_n ordinance_n rather_o than_o to_o disagree_v thereupon_o contrary_a to_o the_o advice_n of_o the_o apostle_n who_o as_o he_o withstand_v peter_n to_o the_o face_n because_o he_o be_v to_o be_v blame_v gal._n 2.11_o direct_v that_o if_o any_o brother_n walk_v disorderly_a viz._n in_o disobedience_n to_o christ_n ordinance_n he_o must_v be_v withdraw_v from_o 2_o thess_n 3.6_o but_o john_n bunyan_n to_o persuade_v the_o church_n to_o strike_v hand_n in_o disobedience_n and_o to_o countetenance_v their_o do_n therein_o allege_v pag._n 110_o divers_a instance_n of_o unlawful_a thing_n do_v of_o old_a yet_o wink_v at_o if_o not_o approve_v to_o all_o which_o if_o it_o be_v so_o sure_o the_o apostle_n word_n rom._n 6.1_o what_o shall_v we_o say_v thereto_o shall_v we_o continue_v in_o sin_n that_o grace_n 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