knoweth that when he did go to purge himself in the yearly Meeting at London in relation to that Judgment some that knew well enough what that Judgment was did oppose him in that respect But I did not meddle with the Merit of the Cause in my so charging him whether he did ill in that Affair above mentioned only I did argue ad boâ—inem that seeing S. J. did refuse to submit to the Equity of that Judgment in a worldly Matter it was most unreasonable in him to require â—f me an absolute Submiâ—sion in a Matter that is Spiritual viz. Faitâ— and Conscience For his Reflections on my worthy Friend Geo. 〈◊〉 I paâ—s them as not worth answering for they contain nothing of any real Matter against him but 〈…〉 railing and I question not 〈◊〉 G. H. can well enough answer to any thing S. J. hath objected against him But that he sath it is a notorious 〈◊〉 and â—â—nder that he went 〈…〉 Disunity with the most faithful Friends he boldly indeed saith it but without all proof or probability For it is much more probable that it is true than false for he not owning the Equity of their Judgment in so far at least he was in Disunity with them and it was not about a Trifle but a matter of great weight wherein Sentence or Judgment was given against him And whereas he saith he knoweth it to be false and there is not a sillable to prove it that the People were generally weary of his too severe Government I answer it being charged on him where the Book was printed viz. in America and where he exercised his Government it is unreasonable in him to demand it to be proved here as divers other things of that Nature cannot in reason be demanded to be proved here But if it were to be proved in west Jersey it self I doubt not but I should get scores to assert it and prove it also and that sufficiently But in part it can be proved here for some here in London are ready to witness how most unmercifully he caused one to whip a Friends Son for a very small Trespass and caused a Man to sell his Horse to him after he had sold him to another Man LVII He grosly perverts the Case also in excusing his saying That tho' I denyed their Judgment yet they would judge me saying I could not trample upon it as false before I knew what it was For he speaking these words in a menacing insolent manner wholly unbecoming a Judge did sufficiently show they intended a Judgment of Condemnation against me as the event proved and I could expect no other from such prejudiced Persons therefore I say still I might well say I did trample upon it c. being false LVIII His perverse way of reasoning That their Judgment of the 28th is â—rue first from Friends in all Places being so unanimous in it But this is palpably false hundreds of faithful Friends in diveâ—s Places have not owneâ— it and I know not that he can shew one Meeting of Friends in all England that doth own it that is either monthly quarterly or yearly Meeting for the Paper called The Judgment of the yearly Meeting at London doth not own it however in some things they blame both sides yet they did not disown me or render me gone from truth as the Judgment of the 28th doth But his second Argument is as false and weak as the first viz. from my and our Measures under it But ought we not to be uneasie under your Wickedness and false Judgment ought not the Sins of others to be a burthen to us Was not Crist grieved and burdened with the Wickedness and Enmity of the Jews against him and were not the true Prophets and Apostles grieved with the wickedness and false Judgments of false Prophets and Apostles Oh! how carnal and unsensible seems this Man to be as if he had never known or felt the burden of other Mens Sins too great an Argument he never duly felt the burden of his own Sins for who feel the one will no doubt feel the other And how could we but be grieved and uneasie to see so many blinded and deceived by that false Judgment given out against us so that our Ministry that formerly was well received by them came to be rejected and they did what they could by their false Judgment wholly to make void our Work and Service in the Lords Vineyard this and other evil Effects together with the great breach it made among all the Meetings in these three Provinâ—â—s that were not broken till then how could it but grieve and burden 〈◊〉 But notwithstanding our Griefs we can say and I do say for my particular as my Afflictions and Griefs have been great because of your faâ—â—e â—udgment and the evil Effects of it so my Comforts have been great in that God hath been pleased to honour me to suffer so much for his Name sake and the Name of his dear Son Christ Jesus and his blessed Spirit in my Heart has oft made these words comfortable to me Math. 5. 11. Blessed are ye when Men shall revile you c. But lastly how inconsiderate is this Man in his way of arguing against us Hath not he been uneasie under what hath been said and printed by us against him his Book bespeaks it sufficiently and if so by his own Argument all that we have said or printed against him is a true Judgment But note Readér that S. J. Papist like in this as in other things brings not his Satisfaction of the Truth of the Judgment the 28th gave out against us from the Light or Spirit within but from Men without making multitude or plurality the greatest mark of Truth and of the true Church as the Papists do and by his Argument Paul was a bad Man because not only some particular Churches but all Asia had forsaken him LIX He is miserably put to it by twisting and perverting and feigning great untruths to excuse their endeavouring to bear us down in religious Matters by their Power as Magistrates whereof I give an Instance in Plea c. p. 16 17. They imposing upon the true Liberty and Right of the Meeting by encouraging to read it against the Mind of most of the Friends present it being an established Act of the monthly Meeting as well as of divers other monthly Meetings that nothing ought to be read in their Meeting without the general consent of the Meeting And one of them did threaten to bind an honest Friend to the Peace without the least occasion given him S. J. calling out for a Constable 1. He granteth that the said Persons being Magistrates were at that Meeting though none belonged to it as Members thereof but S. R. 2. He argueth why should they be said to countenance the reading of it more than G. K. and those with him to discountenance it I answer let it be granted that we did discountenance it as much as they
A FURTHER DISCOVERY Of the SPIRIT of Falshood Persecution IN Sam. Jennings And his Party that joyned with him in Pensilvania and some Abettors that cloak and defend him here in England In Answer to his scandalous Book called The State of the Case IN Order to this further Discovery I think fit to follow this Method First to set down in order the grossest Falshoods and Untruths I find in his Book and for which he giveth no other Proof but his and their bare Affirmation who are his Confederates which ought to be of no Authority or Credit with them who know him and them to be our prejudiced Adversaries in the Case and whom I can and doubt not to prove both him and them guilty of affirming diverse gross falshoods in this following Treatise and for brevity sake to give little other Answer to many of the whole Summ Number or Tale of them but this That they are gross downright Falshoods Fictions and Forgeries of his and their devising hatch'd and invented by him and them whereby as with so many Fig-leaves to cover his and their Nakedness And as I go along to answer particularly to his seeming Reasons so far as they may seem to weak and unwary Readers to be some sort of covering to him and his Party and his particular Charges against me so far as they seem to contain any thing of Truth in them in matter of Fact briefly to reply unto For the first some of the grossest downright Falshoods and Untruths Fictions and Forgeries asserted by him are these in order following I. That he saith in his Title page The state of the Case impartially given c. he had said more truly The state of the Case partially falsly and perversly given c. II. That some few have been seduced by me into a separation c. but on the contrary I have not seduced any but have been made an Instrument of God for which I desire to praise him to preserve many and to recover some from being deceived III. That we are backsliders and have reproached and abused him This is his own Character and not ours IV. That he might have made his Innocency his Sanctuary But instead of that he maketh Falshoods and Fictions his Sanctuary V. That I said to him That it was not for any love I had to him that I had sought his Friendship c. This I solemnly declare is utterly false and I acknowledge I did love him and still love him as I ought to love my Enemies but the bond of brotherly love he himself broke it and not I. VI. That I flatter to gain him to my Party This is false VII That I consult the old Proverb Throw Dirt enough and some will stick This most truly belongs to himself VIII That it's matter of Malice and not Conscience that hath occasioned me to appear against him But my appearing against him was only in my just defence and what I have said or Printed against him respecting some former Passages of his Life before he appeared an unjust Adversary against me were such as I had not the full knowledge and certainty of them before and beside they were of that natâ—â—e or quality that had it not been for his intolerable Pride and Arrogancy as well as Injustice in charging me â—hen Innocent of what he was most guilty himself they might have been buried even with them that knew him to be guilty more than I did and it might have been hoped that he had repented of such things but he proceeding to shew himself worse then formerly not amending but more degenerating might give just occasion in our just defence to let him know what sort of Captain these twenty seven false Judges had chosen to follow in that unjust War they had undertaken His Argumentum ad hominem sheweth him as ignorant in fair Reasoning as he knoweth himself to be in the Latin Tongue which yet he would make some shew of as if he skilled it for his transferring my Complaint against Arthur Cook citing Reasons and Causes of the Separation page 18. to his Complaint against me is not paraâ—lel nor equal But so heedless he is in what he writes as in what he saith that he miscites the Book for that Complaint of mine against Arthur Cook is not in Reasons and Causes c. but in the Plea of the Innocent that was in Answer to his and his Brethrens Paper of false Judgment against me for my Complaint against A. C. was That he transgrest Gospel Order in concealing a matter so many years and then bringing it forth against me while I was in the same Profession of Church Membership with them when he so accused me and the matter it self was also false But what I blamed Sam. Jennings for with respect to some years past was only in way of my just defence and was most properly Argumentum ad hominem it being most unreasonable in him to require an absolute Submission from me in the greatest matters of Faith and Conscience when he refused to submit in some worldly matters and I made not this Complaint against him in my just defence until by his and his Parties false Judgment given out against me We were no more of one Society and it stands well consistent with Scripture That if a Man depart from his Righteousness not only his former Righteousness is to be forgotten but his former Vnrighteousness may be justly remembred against him IX That the noise we make of Persecution he doubts not but the Reader will find by what follows is a sham and abuse put upon the World And I refer it to the Impartial Reader whether this his Book be not a sham put upon the World and whether the Sufferings we did undergo for matters purely of Conscience were not really Persecution as much as what many Friends have suffered here in England in former times That he saith page 3. of his Preface How can any thing deserve to be called a Suffering or Persecution that is so much desired and sought for sheweth him extreamly ignorant what true Suffering is and that he is better acquainted with the Spirit of Persecution than with the Spirit of Suffering and also that he is little conversant either in Scripture or Church History for Christ the Prophets Apostles and Martyrs not only desired to suffer for Righteousness sake knowing the Blessedness that belonged to that State but rejoyced at their Suffering not simply for the Suffering but that God might be honoured and the Truth advanced nor did they desire Suffering in any evil will towards Persecutors but prayed for them as so I have done and have them for my Example X. That my and our greatest Suffering from the Government was That we could not provoke them to do more against us This is utterly false we neither gave them just Provocation nor desired to provoke them XI That our Crimes were so gross and enormous as no other Government would have been guilty of
guilty of Heresie for saying The Light within was not sufficient to Salvation without something else at which time S. Jennings most shamefully as is known to many set the Christian and the Quaker at odds in the publick Meeting saying the question betwixt us and G. K. is not Who is the best Christian but who is the best Quaker And also S. J. knoweth in his Conscience that I produced two Manuscripts of John Delawal that was read in the yearly Meeting at London wherein he accuseth me of Heresie and of denying the fundamental Principle of the Quakers for saying The Light within is not sufficito Salvation without something else and concerning the Debate betwixt John Delawal and me upon that head I refer to the Printed Treatise called Heresie and Hatred c. the which if any have a mind to see or buy let them come to me and I shall acquaint them where they may have them XXIV page 6. His gross Perversion and Insinuation against me saying It 's well if he have not sinned against Knowledge in this matter they of the other side having so often and solemnly told me that they did believe all that 's Recorded is Sacred Writ concerning our Blessed Saviour c. But how could I believe them to be sincere in their Affirmation any more than I can believe a Papist or Mugletonian who will say the same in general That they believe all that 's Recorded in Sacred Writ concerning our Blessed Saviour and yet many of their Doctrines contradict Sacred Writ For to be sure it contradicts Sacred Writ to say it is a fundamental Error and Heresie That the Light within is not sufficient to Salvation without something else which was publickly asserted by one of their chief Preachers and Rulers of their side viz. send Delawall and which his Manuscripts under his own Hand read at the yearly Meeting fully prove and for which they did never pass any due censure against him nor against John Humphreys for saying in his Letter read at the yearly Meeting at London He was grieved to hear some say they expect to be justiâ—câ— by that Blood that was shed at Jerusalem And though Sam. Jenings mention thâ— the precious Blood of Christ with which Christ hath purchased that Inheritance for us c. Yet he doth not tell what that Precious Blood is or what he means by it seeing not only John Humphrey in Pensilvania but some here in England by the Blood which with God expiates for Sin and cleanseth from Sin do not mean the Blood of Christ's Manhood or Humanity but the Life which is the Light as one Frances Ftheridge a bold ignorant Soul lately in my hearing and in the hearing of many at a publick Meeting on a First day at Devâ—shire in the Forenoon affirmed That the Blood John 1. 1. 7. that cleanseth from all Sin was the Life and the Life is the Light and this perverse Exposition goeth currant among too many here in England as well as in America But in Opposition to his unchristian and uncharitable Insinuation I say I have charged them with nothing against my Knowledge but what is most perfectly consistent with my Knowledge XXV page â— His gross Perversion in labouring to make void the Credit of the two Persons viz. W. Bradford and John Macomb in giving Evidence against W. St. that he accused me of being guilty of Preaching two Christs alledging they were much at my Devotion and my Creatures to use them as I pleased which is a false and base Insinuation But if their Evidence is not to be credited because they did afterwards joyn with me in their Christian Testimony to oppose the vile Errors held by some of their side by the same Reason these he calleth the four credible Witnesses of their side ought to be rejected and with as much colour of Reason or rather much more they might be said to be at the Devotion of Sam. Jennings and Th. Lloyd and used by them as they pleased But the Judgment of the monthly adjourned Meeting that was given out against Will. Stockdale did not depend upon the bare Credit of these two Persons though Men sufficiently credible But the Meeting it self consisting of above Sixty Persons declareth that at that monthly Meeting he did say That what he had formerly said in his Charge against G. K. he did yet stand by and justifie upon which that Meeting gave judgment against him That the said W. Stockdale should condemn his unrighteous Charge publickly c. XXVI His gross Perversion in labouring to defame these two honest Friends most falsly accusing W. Bradford with Baseness and Treachery to his Benefactors in Pensilvania who at no inconsiderable Cost encouraged the Press there c. But let the Impartial Reader judge whether Sam. Jennings doth not basely accuse him for an innocent Act he not being under the least tye or limitation by them he calleth his Benefactors not to print to G. K. as well as to them G. K. being engaged in the same Testimony for Conscience-sake with him But S. Jennings may be ashamed to call them his Benefactors who were his Persecutors and Oppressors and dealt treacherously with him by breaking their Indenture with him and taking away his Forty Pounds per Annum from him that they had covenanted to give him for about seven years to come which he had little above one year paid him so exposing his Family to Want and Ruin had not Providence opened another way to him And as is above said they took his Salary from him for printing that sheet from Rhode Island which was before any thing of our Differences in Pensilvania were exposed in Print so that could it be supposed that his printing the Differences among us in Pensilvania had given some just occasion of Offence to them which it did not yet they taking away his Salary from him before that supposed Offence was most unjust seeing according to all Justice the Punishment never goeth before the Offence but followeth it His other Story of John Macomb is false in dâ—vers things as his viz. J. M. being under strong Obligations to W. S for his Care of him in that time when he wanted it But I have heard J. M. deny it solemnly that ever he was so much obliged to W. S. as W. S. was to him And it 's well known that W. S. was not under such Circumstances either in Pensilvania or elsewhere as very liberally to supply the wants of other but rather needed and had supply from others and as for J. M. he was no Servant to W. S. but to R.T. who is knoâ—n to be both able 〈◊〉 and sufficiently enough disposed to do well by his Servants and to hâ—â—p them to live comfortably after the time of their Service is expired so that this Suggestion of John Macombs want being supplyed by W. S. as S. J. would have it believed is more probable to be a Fiction than any truth and we have no other
Authority for it but that S. J. or W. S. said so and J.M. his denying it with the circumstances related is sufficient to counter-ballâ—nce But supposing it to be true what is alledged of W. S. being so kind to J. M. it is false what S. J. relates that J. M. used any fly unmanly or ungrateful way in a Visit to W. S. to pump him by questions concerning G. K. For the said J. M. came to me next morning after the discourse that past betwixt them and told it to me no ways as one that sought any occasion against W. S. but simply as one much grieved in Spirit to find so great a difference in Judgment betwixt W.S. and me in a thing of so great moment and he told me also the Visit and Discourse were both occasional and it came altogether from W.S. of his own accord without any such thing as pumping him by questions as S. J. falsly alledgeth XXVII p. 8. He grosly prevaricates in falsly accusing me That I liberally bestow my Anathema Maranatha upon W.S. without more a-do telling him he was an ignorant Heathen not worthy of any place in the Assembly of Friends For I never pronounced an Anathema upon W.S. or any other of them tho some of them have pronounced many woes upon me in the Hearing of many together with their false Prophecies which God hath frustrated and my faith is in him he will still frustrate But S. Jennings is very ignorant that he knoweth not an Anathema Maranatha is one thing being a very severe Curse and to tell a man If he believe not in Christ without him as well as in Christ within him which were my words to W. S. he is but an ignorant Heathen and not worthy of any place among Friends which I still affirm to be true and is the true character of one so grosly ignorant XXVIII It is a gross perversion and false accusation in him to say Because Judgment was not given against W.S. in my way and time altho as he falsly alledgeth my own turbulency was the great obstruction he therefore sticks not to unchristian many c. For I have sufficiently shewed in my printed books and now lately in my Answer to T.E. That they gave no due judgment or censure at all against him to this day and the shadow or bare formality of judgment theâ— published at last against him was like Mustard after Meat and at an 〈◊〉 or one born out of due time being 9 months after my complaint made to the Yearly meeting and about 13 months after my first complaint made to a meeting of Ministring Friends at the house of Robert Ewer and several months after the breach began at Philadelphia And it is a most deceitful Excuse to say my own turbulency was the great obstruction which is meerly said but not proved after long and much earnest Reasoning and expostulating the matter with them at the Yearly meeting at Philadelphia At their desire I went out of the meeting that they might agree upon a Judgment among themselves tho T. E. grosly printeth a falshood in the face of the world citing my book Some Reasons and Causes of the Separation That I refused to go out and my book p. 18. saith expresly I did go out at the meetings desire and yet they would not suffer any Judgment to be intimated to me neither at that time nor for many months thereafter Yea the Judgment that was duly given by the monthly meeting adjourned they denied it to be a due Judgment and disowned the meeting that gave it as is shewed in my former printed books and particularly in my late Answer to T.E. However he acknowledgeth That judgment was not given against W.S. and giveth the Reason why because they would not give it in my way and time But I say they gave it not in Truths way and time but delayed it most unreasonably and unchristianly till the time was expired and at last what they gave was but a shadow XXIX p. 9. He boldly but most falsly chargeth me That I have falsly accused the innocent and that knowingly too because as he alledgeth I have heard very many of them often declare their Faith in the aforesaid particulars and what else is necessary to be believed and owned by true Christians But I deny that ever I heard any of them give a satisfactory account of their Faith in the particular things of Controversie but generally from time to time increased our just dissatisfaction both by their most unchristian and unsound expressions and doubtful and equivocous terms Yea both I and many others do well remember that we have heard Sam. Jennings himself declare in a publick meeting at Philadelphia That Friends were not gathered by the faith of Christ as he came outwardly to die for us but by faith in the power of God inwardly revealed Thus setting things asunder that go together And divers others of them have declared to the same effect and John Willford to the offence of many declared in the Hearing of Hundreds at Philadelphia That he had the true faith of Christs Death and Sufferings before he came among Friends but it did not gather him to God but left him in his sins XXX p. 10. His boldly and most perversly challenging me to name the person among us that any orderly complaint hath been made against and the matter proved that hath been cloaked yea that hath not been testified against What greater impudence can be supposed in a man than for Him thus to challenge me when he not only knows in his conscience but doth confess in this his scandalous Pamphlet the complaints I made against both William Stockdale and Thomas Fitswaters from meeting to meeting and yet they never did any thing effectually to pass due Judgment against them And as for Thomas Fitswaters their monthly meeting at Philadelphia instead of passing a due Censure on him for his falsly accusing me That I denied the sufficiency of the Light to salvation did clear him from the Evidence given by four persons of their own Party that said They heard me affirm the Light was not sufficient to salvation without something else But this was no proof to confirm his accusation for the thing they should have proved against me was That I denied the sufficiency of the Light to salvation But instead of proving that they gave Evidence to prove another thing quite different even as far different as to say Sam. Jennings is not an honest man without honest dealing and to say simply he is not an honest man For the first is certainly true tho the second were questioned Besides he knoweth in his conscience that I complained to their Quarteâ—ly meeting upon the unsound and vile expressions in John Humphreys Letters the Original Copy of which was read at the meeting at London last 1694. and yet I received no Answer but a meer abuse S. Jennings being present who told me I was none of them and what had I to do