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A44127 The faith and testimony of the martyrs and suffering servants of Jesus Christ persecuted in New England vindicated against the lyes and slanders cast on them by Nathaniel Morton in his book intituled New England memorial / written ... by ... Christopher Holder. Holder, Christopher, d. 1688.; Rous, John, d. 1695. A few queries put forth. 1670 (1670) Wing H2384; ESTC R31117 8,220 11

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if thou rightly understand the cause thereof it would cause thee to lament and not rejoyce if thou hast any tenderness in thee towards God for in that the Lord requireth us not to visit you as formerly it plainly signifieth that the day of your visitation is over and that you are left to your selves and given up to hardness of heart and blindness of mind as Israel of old was whom the Prophet complained of saying why should they be smitten any more they revolt more and more Again as touching Ephraim the Prophet saith Ephraim is joyned to Idols let him alone again Christ saith of the Pharisees let them alone they are the blind leaders of he blind and again he that is filthy let him be filthy still so that it is an evident sign that that visitation is over and that the next thing that can be expected is utter destruction from the hand of the Lord and I am jealous nay I veri●y believe this is the case with many of you at this day in New England who have had a hand so deeply in shedding the Innocent blood of the faithful servants and messengers of the most high who loved not their lives to the death that they might finish their testimony in faithfulness to the Lord among you And why Nathaniel did thou not mention in thy Memorials how you have caused the innocent people called Quakers to suffer by you how you have imprisoned whipped spoiled their goods cut off their ears banished and hanged them for the breach of no known just Law either of God or man surely it thou had●● been an impartial Historian thou would have mentioned this but I believe your actions have been so riged and bloody contrary to justice and equity Christianity and humanity that thou art ashamed it should be recorded for a Memorial for Ages to come that they might understand how far you are digressed from that which ye pretended you came hither for to wit liberty of Conscience and why did not thou write impartially of things and men as they were as they did who writ the Kings and Chronicles who plainly declared of men as they were justifying of that which was good and disowning that which was evil in them though they were their Kings Governors or Priests but thou hast manifest thy self to write by another spirit then they writ and hast done quite contrary crying up men beyond what they were and indeed beyond what your principle is its possible for man to be whilst in the body but thou hast manifested thy folly and hypocricy to all men who knew these men it may be better then thy self as for some of them I well know to be men quite contrary both in life and judgement to what thou hast reported of them Therefore my desire is that 〈◊〉 may come to see the deceit of thy heart and the falseness 〈…〉 that roles thee and if possible that thou may come to repent of it and turn from it least thou he swept away in the like judgments as some of them were of whom thou makest mention to be miraculously slain with Thunder for know this except you repent ye shall all likewise perish and he swept away in judgment as your Fore fathers the Persecutors in other ages have been For know this that the Lord nor God is risen to sweep the earth and the day of 〈…〉 is at 〈◊〉 and the year of recompence draweth nigh for the sins of the great 〈◊〉 Babilon and Egypt whose Children ye are as by your spirits is manifest and the cry thereof is come up unto Heaven and God hath remembred her iniquiteis and she shall receive double from the hand of the Lord for all her transgressions for in her hath been found the blood of the prophets and Saints and Martyrs of Jesu Christ and of all that hath been slain upon the Earth and she shall be rewarded as she hath rewarded us and receive in the cup double for that which she ha●h filled to us have she or you her children called us Deceivers Hereticks Antichristian pernitious and damnable we will now call her Deceiver Hereticks Antichristian pernitious and damnable yea we can double it upon her for we can prove it to be so or else her Children and as by your fruits for as the have done so have you murdered killed and scandalized the Innocent harmless Lambs of Christ so it is evident that ye are members of the great Whore falfe Church Antichrist that you are guilty of those charges which thou and thy brethren have falsl● charged upon us who are called Quakers So in short I have said something for clearing of the Truth from the flood of slanders which thou hast cast out against it who am one of those that first came among you and have felt the cruelty of all your Laws except death and have outlived them and by the power of the Lord come over them all so that I and the rest of my brethren can walk through all your jurisdictions and not a hand lifted up against us though thou hast gloried so much of your being delivered from us Christopher Holder And now Nath. Morton the truth in the above mentioned particulars being c●eared and thy lies falshoods cast upon it disowned a few Queries I put forth who have been a sufferer among you in New England for thee or any other to answer who are of that Jewish and Antichristian spirit of persecution to answer that so it may appear whether your Doctrines and practices are most agreeable to Christ and his Apostles or ours we being the sufferers and you the persecutors 1. Whether the Jews in their zeal for the Law of Moses persecuting Christ his Apostles were not as justifiable as you seeing they stood up for that which they had received by Moses from the Lord but you for that which you have set up of your selves received by tradition whether it be not the same Spirit that is now working in you as was among them seeing your works are one and the same with them for they by Christs coming to fulfill the Law thought he did go about to distroy it and you by our preaching up the Life and perfection of the Scriptures think we go about to make them void and of no effect 2. Whether the odious terms which you cast upon us our doctrines as a cursed sect Hereticks Blasphemers holders of damnab●e doctrines such like do not proceed from the same Spirit which was among the Jews heathen who called Paul a pestilent fellow a seducer a mover of sedition 〈◊〉 a Ringleader of the Sect of the Nazareeni seeing we as he did teach no other things then are contained in the Scriptures of truth and is it not a certain mark of a false Church ●o persecute seeing persecution was never used by any of the true Church their weapons not being carnal but Spiritual and persecution was not known amongst them that bore the Name of Christianity till there was a degeneration among them whether you have not reason to question your state being found i● the steps of their degeneration 3. Whether the people of New England in leaving their native Country intended never to come to a further discovery of the Lord and whether when the Lord sent his servants among you to make known his way further to you ye did well so evilly to intreat them even in the highest extremity shewing your selves more like heathens then Christians 4. Whether Christs commands Swear not at all be not positive and whether not at all doth not exclude all manner of swearing by one thing as well as another in one case as well as an other and whether any man upon earth is able to dispence with the breach of this his command se●ing there is a heavy denunciation against him that shall break one of the least of them and teach men so to do and a promise to him that shall observe them and teach them and whether the testimony of him that feareth the Lord may not be as true and worthy to be taken without an oath as the testimony of him that feareth not the Lord nor breaking his command is with an oath seeing the one out of conscience to God dare not speak a lie but the other not fearing to speak a lie may with the same searedness of conscience swear a lie also 5. And what inconvenience have been found where mens testimonies under the penallty of perjury for false swearing have been taken seeing if a good conscience be not kept they run the same hazard and corporall punishment as if they Swore falsely which is the greatest obligation upon men not fearing God that may be John Rous N. M. If there had been the same liberty in New-England for the publishing truth by us as for thee to publish the Scandals a fore mentioned an answer had appeared in Print before this time ERRATA Page 1. line 26. for 〈…〉 is manifest p. 2. l. 29. for by r. and that p. 3. l. 2● for and Gods r. God and p. 4. l. 32. for 〈◊〉 what r. what p. 6. l. ● for the r. their