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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A40899	The Lord Cravens case stated; and the impostor dethron'd by way of reply to Captain George Bishop, a grand Quaker in Bristoll. Wherein is briefly hinted, the rottenness of the Quakers conversion, and perfection, in general, exemplified in this busie bishop; in special instanced in his practises against the estate of the Lord Craven, life of Mr. Love. By occasion whereof, this truth is asserted, viz. if we may judge of the conscience, honesty, and perfection of Quakers in general, by this man in particular, a man may be as vile a person, as any under heaven, and yet a perfect Quaker.	Farmer, Ralph.; Bishop, George, d. 1668. aut	1660 (1660)	Wing F442; ESTC R218269	94,789	137

Ministers among us and that wee must renounce our Ordination take it up from the people and so make all new after a mode which yet our eyes nor the eyes of our Fore-fathers have ever seen or their eares ever heard of To effect this have those Emissaries of the Roman Faction no doubt stirred up and set on foot these obstreporous Quakers though the generality of them suspect no such matter to cry down our Churches Ministers and Ordinances to whom they have now drawn in heads and pens more subtil and able who aliud agentes as it were do that for them which they themselves in their own persons openly were not able to effect or accomplish who doth not with fear and sadness that doth consider foresee that lamentable result that 's like to follow upon the contests raised and encreasing between our brethren of the Presbyterian and Independent perswasion and which by the heat and opposition of persons of ability on both sides are like to grow more high than ever But if my poor low voice might bee heard between them and Oh that the Lord would perswade them to hear I should say as Abraham to Lot Let there bee no strife between you for you are Brethren and I should beseech them in Josephs language to his Brethren Fall not out by the way But if I cannot bee heard I make this protestation disclaimer and prayer Lord let not my foul come into the secrets and let mee never partake of the delicacies of those men who make Schismatical separation destroying those Churches and Ministery wherein and by whom blessed be God thousands have been converted and saved and who are willing to reform and conform according to what is revealed in the Scripture sure I am and experience the Mistress even of fools hath made it good unto the world that Discipline and Government in the Church hath ever since the reformation from Popery kept the Reformed Churches free from Heresie and Blasphemy getting head among them and if there were danger of an inrode and an incursion by the abuse of Government hee shall come little short of an Ideot and wise men will easily acknowledge it that doth not perceive that no Government at all every one being left to his own fancy will much more do it It 's a strange piece of madness not to put a difference between inforcing men to Religion and tolerating all Religions to the hazzarding of the true Or if putting a difference Matchivilianisme shall so far prevail with any as that so they can secure their own interests they care not for the concernments of Jesus Christ and his Gospel As for my own former undertakings by the help of the Press I have but endeavoured to discover these upstart enemies and adversaries to the truth who privily brought in damnable Heresies even denying the Lord that bought them By occasion whereof I have raised up this home-bred Adversary my own Countryman by hinting only at whose impostures in this kinde the impostume is broken and much filth and quitture hath been vomited forth from it in most unchristian railings lyings and reproachings who yet withal pretends to higher measures of Saintship and perfection than ordinary which considering and well knowing the man and his practises I concluded this with my self that if wee might judge of the conscience honesty and perfection of the Quakers in general by this man in particular wee may well assert this viz. A man may bee as vile a person as any under heaven and yet a perfect Quaker which after a brief discourse of the conversion and perfection of Quakers in general I have endeavoured to demonstrate from the practises and doings of him in special and this in his dealings in the matters of the Lord Craven and Mr. Love the ones Estate and the others Life The materials I have built my discourse with in the matter of the Lord Craven are two printed pieces the one entituled A true and perfect Narrative of the several proceedings in the case concerning the Lord Craven wherein are set forth the whole proceedings together with the Indictment Tryal and Conviction of Faulconer of Perjury in that information upon which the Lord Cravens Estate was sequestred which piece was printed and published by the friends of the Lord Craven the other is a piece entituled The Lord Cravens Case c. with a short examination of that former Narrative and this latter was written by Bishop himself in excuse and defence of himself and Faulconer of which book hee printed so few and so disposed of them as that I could not get one either here or at London until by providence I was directed to send to himself to borrow it And this I did because in his Pamphlet against mee hee quotes it and refers to it for clearing as hee thought of his innocency which if hee had refused to lend mee I intended to acquaint the world that hee had quoted his book to clear himself which could not bee come by which it may bee hee feared and therefore sent it mee or otherwise by the disposing of Divine Providence the time being come for the discovery of his deep hypocrisie hee was over-ruled so to send it For his own Confessions therein contained and Faulconers Confession upon his death-bed of that perjury which Bishop would in his book free him from being conferred and compared the whole practise and whence it arose and how it was carried on is manifestly discovered as in the discourse following to which I have added a little of his dealings against Mr. Love to let him and the world see whether hee bee not also a blood-sucker Could I have gotten his other book called A Short Plea c. which hee also published against Mr. Love I doubt not but thence I should have made a further discovery of him but hee dealt as subtilly in this as in the former printed so few as that they cannot bee gotten But I suppose what I have done is sufficient the improvement I make of the whole is this to let the world see how deeply and closely wickedness may lye lurking in our natures and what a desperate evil Hypocrisie is that a man may continue in such wickedness unrepented of and yet think himself a Saint and to have attained to perfection If by what I have herein done I may bee instrumental to bring him to repentance or his case may bee as a Pillar of Salt to season and caution others I shall bee abundantly satisfied in my labour and shall when I know it give God the glory In the mean time I rest Reader Thine and the Churches Servant RA. FARMER THE IMPOSTOR DETHRON'D OR The Quakers Throne of Truth Detected to be Satans Seat of LIES IT 's the great Criterion and distinguishing Character of the Generation of Quakers among us that they pretend to greater measures and higher stature in Christ and Christianity then others to have attained even to perfection such perfection as to be without sin

hee did not directly charge mee But let any man read what I have therein written and say wherein have I abused him And thus much I say as to that as I hope the Major General and others in power did not by their lenity intend to countenance such practises before So now seeing what their lenity may produce they will not bee so easie to bee intreated for the future which was that and all I aimed at and the like envious dealing hath hee in the matter of Colonel Scroop and there hee charges mee with flattering him So that let mee speak how I will I must it seems bee concluded an offender But hee alledges I had spoken against him why what of this Because I deal plainly with a man when I finde hee doth ill may I not therefore commend him when hee doth well Is not this an argument of ingenuity I hope hee will pardon mee this offence And truly had I not apprehended him really to have disclaimed these Quakers as I then believed hee did I should not have made that honourable mention of him And I confesse had hee been still here in power over us I might well have been thought in so doing to have flatter'd him but it is well known when hee was here I did it not and lesse reason to do it now in that he is absent But I must here observe what George sayes concerning him which very much tends to the justifying of my Narrative concerning the rise growth and setling of the Quakers among us by the over-topping and over-bearing of our Magistrates and making them Cyphers by a forraign power so that they could not reform things though they had a will to it for page 106. George sayes hee Col. Scroop was so far from denying the Quakers to speak publikely that hee said to Dennis Hollister by name that if the Magistrates did put them in prison one day hee would put them out the next which no doubt Dennis acquainted them with for their incouragement which very likely made them so bold and daring and to out-face as they did the Magistrates and not to care for their commands to depart the City How will revenge and malice blinde a man to tell all which hee had better forborn As for the remainder ejusdem farinae which follows it is a further discovery of the same spirit which I shall passe over intending as the Lord shall give time and opportunity to give a full and distinct answer to the particular of Thomas Evens for as for Morgan Lloyd whose doctrine he sayes I had reproached and concerning which hee sayes hee sent mee a sober note to reason with mee publikely in my Steeple-house as he● calls it which I refused To that I say it 's not so I did not reproach his doctrine for I knew not what it was nor heard it that I took offence at and justly was that any man should intrude and thrust himself yea force himself into my Pulpit upon a day and at a time which was not assigned for Publike Lecture whereas himself and Erbury had not long before made a kinde o● a publike contest to the disturbance and unsetling of the people in another Congregation Erbury at that time being sufficiently known to bee tainted with unsound opinions and Lloyd himself much disliked And truly to speak my minde in this matter if Morgan Lloyds note had been or were to that purpose I suppose that Minister that in these brawling and heretical times shall entertain motions for publike contests with such as run up and down and make it their businesse to wrangle and conten● in things doubtful and uncertain shall not provide for hi● own peace nor the peoples establishment in the truth by giving them entertainment If the doctrines wee teach were unsound or our selves not able to discharge our duty it would bee a favour for some to come and help us when orderly and peaceably sent or called but otherwise for men of unquiet and rambling spirits to impos● themselves upon us is neither Christian nor civil And conceive those who are careful to preserve the people from infection do not well to encourage much lesse to invite them Nor are the people competent Judges in doubtful matters and are as I said before much swayed by the impudence and confidence of a bold and daring Opponent I have now but two or three things more to speak to and so I shall come to deal by way of charge upon my Adversary wherein I shall have so much matter as that I must of necessity avoid all debates and altercations with him in matter of doctrine and this upon a double account First because their doctrines judgement and way of arguing are sufficiently known and answered already and I am not willing to draw the same Saw of contention everlastingly not caring for the last word in the quarrel And secondly lest by taking up too much time in those things of which the reader may be else-where better satisfied as in Mr. Thomas of Vblegs most sober and Christian answer Mr. Baxter Mr. Ford and others I bee prevented of what I principally intended which is to discover the hypocrisie and unsoundnesse of a Quakers conversion and to exemplifie it in this man in particular which you see I have in part performed by discovering his railing lying and malicious dealing in which trade hee still continues and therefore page 47. hee charges mee that I would have joyned my self as a member of Hollisters Congregation but finding by discourse with him that there was no place for my imperious proud and pragmatical Mastership over them they heard no more of mee in that particular till the state of things were changed and then I became an adversary to separated Churches and to that in Bristol especially this is the full of the charge This story I assure my self hee had from Dennis But how doth hee know that Dennis sayes truth To this I oppose this true relation when Thomas Evens came first to this City I desiring to know him fully had a purpose to invite him to my house to dinner and understanding that hee would bee at the house of Robert Purnil in an evening went thither where I met him and most I think of that Congregation at an exercise of Religion where I continued Mr. Evens being the man that then exercised wherein something being delivered unsound and erronious I forbore for divers reasons to speak to it till most of the company were dismissed when conceiving it convenient I told him of that erronious doctrine which hee had delivered and spake fully to it to which Mr. Evens making neither answer nor excuse Mr. Purnil for now I am not speaking to or of Quakers and therefore let me use our ordinary and civil language with many good words approved of what I said and spake something in excuse of Mr. Evens Whereupon Moon being present with much affection used these words Why should not Master Farmer bee one of our