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A41439 A full survey of Sion and Babylon, and a clear vindication of the parish-churches and parochial-ministers of England ..., or, A Scripture disproof, and syllogistical conviction of M. Charles Nichols, of Kent ... delivered in three Sabbath-dayes sermons in the parish church of Deal in Kent, after a publick dispute in the same church with the said Mr. Charles Nichols, upon the 20. day of October 1653 / by Thomas Gage ... Gage, Thomas, 1603?-1656. 1654 (1654) Wing G111; ESTC R5895 105,515 104

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i_o have_v faithful_o transcribe_v in_o that_o we_o affi●●_n that_o antichrist_n rul●th_v there_o we_o consequent_o hold_v that_o it_o be_v the_o church_n in_o as_o much_o as_o he_o can_v sit_v any_o where_o but_o in_o the_o church_n but_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o separate_v ourselves_o from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n defile_v by_o antichrist_n and_o another_o thing_n to_o depart_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n again_o we_o depart_v not_o from_o the_o temple_n but_o from_o the_o idolatry_n commit_v in_o the_o temple_n nor_o from_o the_o commonwealth_n but_o from_o the_o tyranny_n which_o oppress_v the_o commonwealth_n nor_o from_o the_o city_n but_o from_o the_o pestilence_n which_o in●ecteth_v the_o city_n nor_o from_o the_o communion_n and_o fellowship_n of_o the_o people_n but_o from_o the_o conspiracy_n of_o antichrist_n and_o of_o his_o maintainer_n we_o therefore_o renounce_v not_o their_o baptism_n but_o we_o ratify_v it_o and_o further_o for_o this_o point_n of_o baptism_n that_o for_o substance_n it_o be_v true_a in_o rome_n he_o ●aith_v thus_o pag._n 147._o it_o be_v not_o the_o heretic_n that_o baptize_v as_o long_o as_o baptism_n remain_v sound_a but_o christ_n by_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o heretic_n wherein_o we_o follow_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o fi●st_a council_n of_o nice_a that_o they_o which_o be_v baptize_v by_o heretic_n renounce_v their_o here●ie_n they_o shall_v not_o be_v rebaptise_v except_o those_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v by_o the_o samo●arens_n who_o keep_v not_o the_o essential_a word_n of_o baptism_n and_o doctor_n reynolds_n speak_v wary_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n deny_v it_o not_o to_o be_v a_o church_n but_o say_v ecclesia_fw-la romana_fw-la nec_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholic●_n nec_fw-la s●num_fw-la mem●●um_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ca●holicae_fw-la it_o be_v neither_o the_o catholic_n church_n not_o a_o sound_a member_n 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ergo_fw-la viva_fw-la thus_o you_o see_v that_o by_o other_o sound_a divine_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v be_v hold_v a_o church_n though_o sick_a disease_a unsound_a in_o her_o corruption_n which_o argue_v that_o under_o those_o disease_n and_o corruption_n there_o be_v some_o life_n yet_o in_o she_o and_o some_o truth_n of_o substantial_o as_o c_o rist_n baptism_n the_o scripture_n ordination_n and_o the_o like_a 1._o object_n but_o it_o may_v he_o object_v that_o i_o speak_v thing_n contradictory_n and_o do_v aver_v two_o contradictory_n in_o the_o same_o subject_n simul_fw-la &_o semel_fw-la at_o once_o and_o the_o same_o time_n say_v they_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o again_o say_v that_o in_o their_o corruption_n superstition_n and_o some_o doctrine_n they_o be_v a_o false_a church_n but_o true_a and_o false_a be_v contradictory_n not_o predicable_a of_o the_o same_o subject_n at_o the_o same_o time_n ergo_fw-la i_o seem_v to_o speak_v thing_n contradictory_n 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chap._n 5._o vers_fw-la 7._o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v very_o bad_a and_o evil_a chap._n 1._o vers_fw-la 21.22_o the_o teacher_n be_v corrupt_a chap._n 3._o vers_fw-la 12._o the_o woman_n be_v exceed_o vain_a proud_a haughty_a and_o corrupt_a chap._n 3._o vers_fw-la 16._o compare_v with_o the_o 18._o and_o 23._o vers_fw-la rich_a man_n and_o chief_a man_n they_o also_o be_v very_o corrupt_a as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o chap._n 5._o vers_fw-la 8._o and_o in_o chap._n 10._o vers_fw-la 1.2_o compare_v with_o chap._n 36._o vers_fw-la 3._o and_o all_o the_o people_n in_o general_n be_v complain_v of_o chap._n 24._o vers_fw-la 5._o and_o chap._n 48.4_o and_o 8._o verse_n and_o in_o the_o 1_o chap._n 2._o and_o 6._o verse_n yea_o they_o be_v sink_v deep_a in_o rebellion_n chap._n 31._o vers_fw-la 6._o yet_o they_o be_v call_v god_n church_n and_o people_n but_o leave_v the_o old_a policy_n as_o no●_n suit_v with_o mr._n nichols_n policy_n in_o undermine_v our_o church_n because_o 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