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A68236 The third booke of commentaries vpon the Apostles Creede contayning the blasphemous positions of Iesuites and other later Romanists, concerning the authoritie of their Church: manifestly prouing that whosoeuer yeelds such absolute beleefe vnto it as these men exact, doth beleeue it better then Gods word, his Sonne, his prophets, Euangelists, or Apostles, or rather truly beeleeues no part of their writings or any article in this Creede. Continued by Thomas Iackson B. of Diuinitie and fellow of Corpus Christi College in Oxford.; Commentaries upon the Apostles Creed. Book 3 Jackson, Thomas, 1579-1640. 1614 (1614) STC 14315; ESTC S107489 337,354 346

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proue as principally whether their beliefe of the Churches authoritie can bee resolued into any diuine testimonie pag. 46. CHAP. VI. That neither our Sauiours Prayers for the not failing of Peters faith Luke 22. 32. nor his commending his sheepe vnto his feeding Iohn 21. 15. prooue any Supremacie in Peter ouer the Church from which the authoritie of the Pope can with probabilitie be deriued p. 49. CHAP. VII That Christ not S. Peter is the Rocke spoken of Matth. 16. 18. that the Iesuites Exposition of that place demonstrateth the Pope to be the great Antichrist pag. 64. In the marginall note parag 24. for That Romish faith is that faith reade that Romish faith is not that faith In the marginall note parag 31. for a paralile reade a paralell In the marginall note parag 3. for Plinius reade Pintus Parag. 22. for melang reade felang CHAP. VIII That the Romanists beliefe of the Churches in fallible authoritie cannot bee resolued into any testimonie better then humane whence the maine conclusion immediatly followes That the Romanist in obeying the Church-decrees without examination of them by Gods word preferre mans Lawes before Gods pag. 89. CHAP. IX In what sence the Iesuites may truely denie they beleeue the words of man better then the words of God In what sence againe our Writers truely charge them with this blasphemie pag. 99. SECTION III. CHAP. I. What restraint precepts for obedience vnto the Priests of the Law though seeming most vniuersall for their forme did necessarily admit How vniuersall Propositions of Scriptures are to be limited pag. 105. In the marginall note parag 3. for suscitaturus read sciscitaturus CHAP. II. The authoritie of the Sanhedrim not so vniuersal or absolute amongst the Iewes as the Papists make it but was to bee limited by the former Rules pag. 119. In the marginall note parag 2. for sarcedotem reade sacerdotem Margine parag 11. for Canala reade Cabala CHAP. III. That our Sauiours iniunction of obedience to the Scribes and Pharisees though most vniuersall for the forme is to be limited by the former rules that without open blasphemie it cannot be extended to countenance the Romish cause that by it we may limit other places brought by them for the Popes transcendent vniuersall authoritie pag. 128. In the marginall note parag 11. quae ad populi salutem fuit reade vt quae ad populi salutem sint CHAP. IIII. What it would disaduantage the Romish Church to denie the infallibilitie of the Synagogue pag. 139. Mar. par 3. inueniebant read inueniebantur negat read negatur CHAP. V. That iustly it may be presumed the Iewish Church neuer had any absolute infallibitie in proposing or determining Articles of faith because in our Sauiours time it did so grieuously erre in the fundamentall point of saluation pag. 142. Mar. par 2. darmauit read damnauit sunt enim read sicut enim CHAP. VI. That Moses had no such absolute authoritie as is now ascribed vnto the Pope That the manner of his attaining to such as he had excludes all besides our Sauiour from iust challenge of the like pag. 151. CHAP. VII That the Churches authoritie was no part of the rule of faith vnto the people after Moses death That by experiments answerable vnto the precepts and predictions the faithfull without relying vpon the Priests infallible proposalls were as certaine both of the diuine truth and true meaning of the law as their forefathers had beene that liued with Moses and saw his miracles pag. 159. CHAP. VIII That the societie or visible companie of Prophets had no such absolute authoritie as the Romish Church vsurpes pag. 169. CHAP. IX That the Church representatiue amongst the Iewes was for the most part the most corrupt iudge of matters belonging to God and the reason why it was so pag. 178. CHAP. X. That the Soueraigntie giuen by Iesuits to the Pope is greater then our Sauiours was pag. 186. CHAP. XI Confirming the truth deliuered in the former Chapter from the very Law giuen by Moses for discerning the great Prophet further exemplifying the vse and force of miracles for begetting faith The manner of trying prophesies Of the similitude betwixt Christ and Moses p. 197 In the marginall note par 19. for for sorcerie reade from sorcerie CHAP. XII That the method vsed by the great Prophet himselfe after his resurrection for planting faith was such as we teach The excesse of Antichrists exaltation aboue Christ The Diametrall opposition betwixt the spirit of God and the spirit of the Papacie pag. 221. CHAP. XIII That the authoritie attributed to the present Pope and the Romish rule of faith were altogether vnknowne vnto Saint Peter the opposition betwixt S. Peters and his pretended successors doctrine pag. 226. CHAP. XIIII That S. Paul submitted his doctrine to examination by the wordes before written That his doctrine disposition and practise were quite contrarie to the Romanists in this argument pag. 232. CHAP. XV. A briefe taste of our aduersaries blasphemous and Atheisticall assertions in this argument from some instances of two of their greatest Doctors Bellarmine and Valentian That if faith cannot be perfect without the solemne testification of that Church the raritie of such testifications will cause infidelitie pag. 239. SECTION IIII. Containing the third branch of Romish blasphemie or the last degree of great Antichrists exaltation vtterly ouerthrowing the whole foundation of Christian Religion preposterously inuerting both Law and Gospell to Gods dishonor and aduancement of Sathans Kingdome pag. 245. CHAP. I. The Iesuits vnwillingnesse to acknowledge the Churches proposall for the true cause of his faith of differences and agreements about the finall resolution of faith either amongst the aduersaries themselues or betwixt vs and them p. 245. CHAP. II. That the Churches proposall is the true immediate and prime cause of all absolute beliefe any Romanist can haue concerning any determinate diuine reuelation p. 249. CHAP. III. Discouering either the grosse ignorance or notorious craft of the Iesuit in denying his faith is finally resolued into the Churches veracitie or infallibilitie that possibly it cannot be resolued into any branch of the first truth pag. 256. Mar. par 3. faith reade the Romanists faith CHAP. IIII. What manner of causall-dependance Romish beliefe hath on the Church that the Romanist truly and properly beleeues the Church only not God or his Word pag. 268. CHAP. V. Declaring how the first maine ground of Romish faith leads directly vnto Atheisme the second vnto preposterous Heathenisme or Idolatrie pag. 277. Mar. par 12. efferunt reade afferunt CHAP. VI. Prouing the last assertion or generally the imputations laid vpon the Papacie by that authoritie the Iesuites expresly giue vnto the Pope in matters of particular fact as in the Canonizing of Saints pag. 294. CHAP. VII What danger by this blasphemous doctrine may accrew to Christian States that of all heresies blasphemies or idolatries which haue beene since the world beganne or can be imagined till Christ come to iudgment
this Apostasie of the Iesuites is the most abhominable and contumelious against the blessed Trinitie pag. 300. THE TRIPLICITIE OF ROMISH BLASPHEMIE OR THE THREE DEGREES OF ANTICHRISTS EXALTATION Against all that is called GOD. THE THIRD BOOKE SECT I. Contayning the assertions of the Romish Church whence her threefold blasphemie springs HAuing in the former dispute clearly acquitted as well Gods word from breeding as our Church from nursing contentions schismes and heresies wee may in this by course of common equitie more freely accuse their iniurious calumniators And because our purpose is not to charge them with forgerie of any particular though grossest heresies or blasphemies though most hideous but for erecting an intire frame capacio●s of all villanies imaginable farre surpassing the hugest mathematicall forme humane fancie could haue conceiued of such matters but only from inspection of this reall and materiall patterne which by degrees insensible hath growne vp with the mysterie of iniquitie as the barke doth with the tree such inconsiderate passionate speeches as heat of contention in personall quarrells hath exstracted from some one or few of their priuate Writers shall not be produced to giue euidence against the Church their Mother whose triall shall be as farre as may be by her Peeres either by her owne publike determinations in this controuersie or ioynt consent of her authorized best approued Advocates in opening the title or vnfolding the contents of that prerogatiue which they challenge for her 2 Our accusations are grounded vpon their Positions before set downe when wee explicated the differences betwixt vs. The position in briefe is this That the infallible authoritie of the present Church is the most sure most safe vndoubted rule in all doubts or controuersies of faith or in all points concerning the Oracles of God by which we may certainely know both without which wee cannot possibly know either which are the Oracles of God which not or what is the true sense and meaning of such as are receiued for his Oracles whether written or vnwritten 3 The extent of diuine Oracles or number of Canonicall bookes hath beene as our Aduersaries pretend very questionable amongst the ancient though such of the Fathers as for their skill in antiquitie were in all vnpartiall iudgements most competent Iudges in this cause were altogether for vs against the Romanists and such as were for their opinion were but for it vpon an error as thinking the Iewes had acknowledged all those bookes of the old Testament for Canonicall Scripture which the Churches wherin they liued receiued for such or that the Christian Church did acknowledge all for Canonical which they allowed to be publikely read Safe it was our aduersaries cannot denie for the Ancient to dissent one from an other in this question or to suspend their assent till new probabilities might sway them one way or other No reasons haue beene produced since sufficient to moue any ingenious mind vnto more peremptorie resolutions yet doth the Councell of Trent binde all to an absolute acknowledgement of those Bookes for Canonicall which by their owne confession were reiected by S. Hierome and other Fathers If any shall not receiue the whole Bookes with all their parts vsually read in the Church and as they are extent in the old vulgar for sacred and Canonicall let him be accu●sed So are all by the same decree that will not acknowledge such vnwritten traditions as the Romish Church pretends to haue come from Christ and his Apostles for diuine and of authoritie equall with the written word 4 So generally is this opinion receiued so fully beleeued in that Church That many of her Sonnes euen whilest they write against vs forgetting with whom they haue to deale take it as granted That the Scriptures cannot be known to be Gods word but by the infallible authoritie of the present Church And from this supposition as from a truth sufficiently knowne though neuer proued they labour in the next place to inferre That without submission of our faith to the Churches publike spirit wee cannot infallibly distinguish the orthodoxall or diuine sense of Gods Oracles whether written or vnwritten from hereticall or humane 5 Should we admit vnwritten Traditions and the Church withall as absolute Iudge to determine which were Apostolicall which not little would it boote vs to question with them about their meaning For when the point should come to triall wee might be sure to haue the very words framed to whatsoeuer sense should bee most fauourable for iustifying Romish practises And euen of Gods written Oracles whose words or characters as hee in his wisedome hath prouided cannot now be altered by an Index Expurgatorius at their pleasure That such a sense as shall bee most seruiceable for their turne may as time shall minister occasion bee more commodiously gathered the Trent Fathers immediately after the former decree for establishing vnwritten Traditions and amplifying the extent of diuine written Oracles haue in great wisedome authorized the old and vulgar translation of the whole Canon Which though it were not purposely framed to maintayne Poperie as some of our writers say they haue as friuolously as maliciously obiected yet certainely aswell the escapes and errors of those vnskilfull or ill-furnished interpretors as the negligence of transcribers or other defects incident to that worke from the simplicitie of most ancient the iniuries or calamities of insuing times were amongst others as the first heads or pettie springs of that raging floud of impietie which had well nigh drowned the whole Christian world in perdition by continually receiuing into it channell once thus wrought the dregs and filth of euery other error vnder heauen with the corrupt remainder of former heresies for these thousand yeares and more And vnto many grosse errors in Romish religion which this imperfect translation did not first occasion it yet affords that countenance which the pure Fountaines of the Greeke and Hebrew doe not but rather would scoure and wipe away were they current in that Church Finally though it yeld not nutriment to enlarge or feed yet it serues as a cloake to hide or couer most parts of the great mysterie of iniquitie 6 Yet besides the fauourable construction that may be made for that religion out of the plaine and literall sense of this erroneous translation the Church will bee absolute Iudge of all controuersies concerning the right interpretation thereof So as not what our consciences vpon diligent search and iust examination shall witnesse to vs but what the Church shall declare to them must be absolutely acknowledged for the true intent and meaning of Gods word as it is rendred by the vulgar interpretor To this purpose is the very next decree 7 Moreouer for brideling petulant dispositions it is decreed That no man in confidence of his owne wisdome or skill in matters of faith and manners making for the edification of Christian doctrine shall dare to interpret Scriptures wresting them to his
again●● which wee dispute doe not at all beleeue God speaking in the Scriptures shal be euinced in the third Section of this The present inconuenience which now will they nill they we are to wrest from their resolutions of faith is that indeed and conscience they either acknowledge no authoritie in the Church or Scriptures or else greater in the Church then in Scriptures CHAP. II. Inferring the generall conclusion proposed in the title of this Section from Bellarmines Resolution of faith 1 ASwell to occasion the learned Readers further consideration of their ill-grounded and worse builded faith as for deducing thence the proposed inconuenience it wll not bee amisse to propose Bellarmines resolution of a Roman Catholikes faith One especiall obiection of our Writers as hee frameth it is That faith if depending on the Churches iudgement is grounded but vpon the word of man a weake foundation for such an edifi●e that the Scripture was giuen by the Spirit of God and must therefore bee vnderstood by the same not by the Churches Spirit Hereunto Bellarmine answereth The word of the Church i. of the Councell or the Pope speaking ex Cathedra is not the bare word of man He meanes no word obnoxious to errour but in some sort the word of God in as much as it is vttered by the asistance and gouernment of the Holy Ghost I adde saith hee that Heretiques are they which indeede doe leane vpon a broken reed For we must know that a proposition of faith must be concluded in this or the like Syllogisme Whatsoeuer God hath reuealed in Scripture is true but God hath reuealed thus or that in Scriptures Ergo this or that is true The first proposition in this Syllogisme is certaine amongst all the second likewise amongst Catholickes is ●ost firme as being supported by the testimonie of the Church Councell or Pope of whose immunitie from possibilitie of erring we haue expresse promises in the Scriptures as It hath seemed good to the Holy Ghost and vs I haue prayed for thee thy faith should not ●aile But amongst Heretikes the second or minor proposition is 〈…〉 onely on coniecture or iudgement of a priuate Spirit which vsually seemes but is not good Whence seeing the conclusion must follow the weaker part it necessarily followes that all the faith of Heretikes such in his language are all that will not relie vpon the Church is but coniecturall and vncertaine 2 A dreadfull imputation could it be as substanstially proued as it is confidently auouched And the consequence of his resolution generally helde by all his fellowes is of no lesse importance then this that no man can be infalliby assured either of the truth or true sence of any particular proposition in the whole Canon of Scriptures receiued by vs and them vnlesse he haue the Churches authoritie for confirmation of both For vnto vs that onely which the Church auoucheth is certaine and vnfallible that sence of it which the Church giues onely sound if we speake of any particular or determinate truthes 3 How certaine and vnfallible assent vnto all or any Scriptures may bee wrought in mens heartes without any infallible teacher alreadie hath beene and hereafter shall be God willing in more particular sort exemplified In this place it stood the Iesuit vpon to haue giuen a better solution to the doubt obiected which he is so farre from vnloosing that hee rather knits it faster as shall appeare if the Reader will first cal to minde That for the establishing of firme and vndoubted assent to any truth proposed it skils not how infallible the truth in it selfe or the proposer be vn-vnlesse vnlesse they whose beleefe or assent is demanded be as infallibly perswaded of this infallibilitie in the truth or the proposer In this respect our aduersaries pleade their immunitie from errour as an article necessarie to be infallibly beleeued for confirmation of Gods Word alwayes most infallible as all grant in it selfe but not so as they affirme to vs vntill it bee auouched by infallible authoritie 4 Herein they concurre with vs both with the truth That if we beleeue it onely as probable that God spake all those wordes which wee acknowledge to bee most infallible because his our beleefe notwithstanding is not infallible but probable or coniecturall For as a man may haue bad desires of things essentially good so may he haue vncertaine perswasions of truthes in themselues most certaine It is not therefore the supposed infallibilitie of the Church or Pope howsoeuer but infallibly apprehended and beleeued that must strengthen our faith which otherwise as is pretended would be but coniecturall And by the former principle acknowledged aswell by them as vs it necessarily followes that if we be only probably not infallibly perswaded the Pope or Church cannot erre our assent vnto the minor proposition i. vnto any determinate part of Gods Word is onely probable not infallible For by the Iesuites Doctrine we cannot bee certainly perswaded that God spake this or that but by the Churches testimonie The immediate consequence of which two assertions compared together is wee cannot bee more certaine that God hath spoken this or that then wee are of the Churches infallibilitie If then wee bee onely probably not infallibly perswaded that the Church is infallible our beleefe of the minor proposition that is of any determinate truth which men suppose God hath spoken must bee onely probable or coniecturall not infallible Consequently to these collections the learned Papists generally holde that the Churches infallibilitie must be absolutely and infallibly beleeued as you heard before out of Canus Bellarmine and Valentian otherwise as Bellarmine would inferre our beleefe of the minor in any Syllogisme wherein a proposition of faith is concluded can be but coniecturall 5 The proposed inconuenience wee may deriue from this difficultie How the Papists themselues can attaine to the infallible beleefe of the Churches infallible authoritie The Church they thinke hath a publique spirit and publique spirits they know are infallible hence they may perswade themselues the Church is infallible only vpon the same termes they beleeue it hath a publique spirit if their beleefe of this latter be but coniectural their assent vnto the former can be no better Seeing then they must of necessitie grant for this is the principall marke they aime at that all must infallibly beleeue the Church hath a publique spirit the difficultie remoues to this point how this infallible perswasion is or may bee wrought in them Either it must be grounded vpon Scriptures or not auouched vnto them and wrought in their hearts it must be either by a publique or priuate spirit Let vs examine all the parts of this diuision 6 First if priuate mens infallible perswasion of the Churches publike or authentike spirit be not groūded vpon Scriptures acknowledged by vs and them the Churches authoritie without all controuersie is much greater then the authoritie of Scriptures if it by this assertion can be any
and the Churches not all in all For vnto that which men cannot know whether it bee true or false they cannot be bound to yeeld absolute or immediate obedience vnto that authoritie which they absolutely beleeue as infallible they are bound to yeeld infallible assent and absolute obedience directly in it selfe and for it selfe But by this supposition men cannot know Scriptures infallibly without the Churches authoritie and yet they must infallibly beleeue the Churches authoritie without Scriptures The Scriptures authoritie therefore is either lesse then the Churches or none at all 6 But be it supposed that priuate mens infallible beleefe of the Churches publike spirit is groūded vpon Scriptures acknowledged by vs and vrged by them to this purpose as vpon these it seemeth good to the Holy Ghost vs I haue prayed for thee thy faith should not faile The question whereunto wee demaund an answere is whether this infallible beleefe of the Churches authoritie grounded vpon these places must be wrought in mens heartes by a priuate or publique spirit If by a priuate spirit onely Bellarmine beleeued the Churches publique spirit or those Scriptures truth or true meaning whereon he grounds it Hee and all other Papists such as hee was when hee deliuered this Doctrine neither Bishops nor Cardinals are subiect to the same inconueniences which he hath condemned vs for as Heretiques For all priuate spirits by his positions are obnoxious to errour vnsufficient to plant any infallible perswasion in matters of faith yet such is this article of the Churches authentique spirit of which vnlesse men be so perswaded infallibly perswaded they cannot bee of the minor proposition in any Syllogisme wherein a point of faith is concluded and vncertaine of the minor they cannot be certaine of the conclusion which as Bellarmine rightly obserues alwayes followes the weaker part The infallible conclusion therefore of Bellarmines resolution is vnlesse priuate men may haue publique spirits to warrant the truth of Scriptures and the Churches infallibilitie thereon grounded they cannot truly beleeue any conclusion of faith It remaines then we inquire what inconuenience wil follow if they admit priuate men to be partakers of publike spirits 7 Diuersitie of such spirits they acknowledge not If therefore priuate mens infallible assent vnto the truth or true sence of those particular Scriptures whence they seeke to prooue their Churches infallibilitie must be planted by a publique spirit planted it must be by the same spirit which guides and guiding makes the Church and Pope authentique and infallible both in their proposall of Scriptures and declaration of Scriptures sence Seeing this spirit is one and the same if it can make the Church or Pope infallible in all why may it not make all priuate men by this supposition partakers of it alike infallible at the least in the right vnderstanding of those places which warrāt the Churches infallibilitie or publique spirit For our aduersaries I hope will easily grant that the Churches publique and authentique spirit must be most infallibly beleeued because so expressely taught in those Scriptures cited by Bellarmine to this purpose If this publike or authentique spirit can worke such infallible apprehension of those places true meaning in priuate heartes why not in all others as necessarie for them to know that is in all necessarie to saluation And if thus it doe why are wee bound to beleeue the Pope more then the Pope vs wee being partakers of a publique and infallible spirit aswel as he 8 Or if they hold it no absurditie to say wee must beleeue two or three places It seemeth good to the Holy Ghost and vs Peter feed my sheepe by a pub●ique and authentique spirit teaching vs from these to relie vpon the Pope in all other parts of Gods Word because as it must be supposed we haue but a priuate spirit for their assurance by this supposition the Popes authoritie in respect of vs must haue the same excesse of superioritie vnto Scriptures that publike spirit hath vnto a priuate or the Pope who beleeueth all Scriptures by a publike spirit hath vnto a priuate man This publike spirit wherof they vaūt is the same which did inspire the scriptures to Moses the Prophets and Apostles and must by this position be the Pope or Churches immediate agēt for establishing this inuiolable league of absolute alleagance with mens soules vnto them but of none so absolute to their Creator and Redeemer and the rest of whose written lawes and eternal decrees must be communicated vnto them by a priuate spirit and subscribed vnto with this condition If the Pope shall witnesse them to be his lawes or to haue this or that meaning 9 Nor can our aduersaries dense the truth of this subsequent collection If it were possible for the Pope in matters controuersed to teach contrarie to Gods Word wee were bound to follow him For they themselues argue thus If the Pope could erre in matters of faith faith might perish from the Earth all Christians bound to erre because bound to obey him This prooues that our assent to any Scriptures besides those which teach the Popes authoritie cannot in it selfe be perfect and absolute but subiect to this condition if the Pope be infallible And euen of those places which as they pretend witnesse him to be such there yet remaines a farther difficultie These the Pope beleeues not because they are confirmed to him by his predecessor but directly and immediatly by his publique spirit But may priuate men beleeue them so too No. For these especially and the Churches infallibilitie contained in them are by all our aduesaries consent propositions of faith in respect of vs need by their doctrine the proposall or testimonie of the Church whereon all priuate mens faith must be immediately grounded beleeuing this we shall from it at least conioyned with Scripture beleeue all other parts of Gods Word necessarie to saluation aswell as the Pope doth these former from the testimonie of his publique spirit Wherefore his authoritie must be vnto vs altogether as great as the authoritie of the Godhead is vnto him which is farre greater vnto him then it is or can be to any others for euen that which is acknowledged for Gods Word both by him and vs must be lesse authentique vnto vs then the wordes of this mortall man 10 For though we pardon our aduersaries their former absurdities in seeking to prooue the Churches authoritie by the Scripture and the Scriptures by the Churches though we grant them all they can desire euen what shall appeare in due place to be most false That whiles they beleeue the Popes particular iniunctions or decisions from a presupposal of his vniuersal transcendent authoritie they doe not onely beleeue him or his wordes but those partes of Gods Word vpon which they seeme to ground his infallibilitie yet our former argument holdes still most firme because that absolute assent which priuate men must giue vnto these supposed grounds of their Religion before
did acknowledge him Supreme Lord of all the Kingdomes of the Earth for that were as much lesse preiudiciall to Christs prerogatiue royall as a damage in possession or goods would bee to a personall disgrace or some foule maime or deformitie wrought vpon a Princes bodie CHAP. V. Propounding what possibly can bee said on our aduersaries behalfe for auoiding the force of the former arguments and shewing withall the speciall points that lie vpon them to prooue as principally whether their beliefe of the Churches authoritie can bee resolued into any diuine testimonie 1 VNto all the difficulties hitherto proposed I can rather wish some learned Priest or Iesuit would then hope any such euer will directly answere point by point For the Readers better satisfaction I will first briefly set downe what possibly can be said on their behalfe and after a disclosure of their last secret refuge draw forth thence the dead putrified carkasse of Romish faith which vnto the ignorant and superstitious that cannot vncouer the holes and clefts wherein these impostors vpon euery search are wont to hide it may yet seeme to liue and breath as the fable went of Saint Iohn the Euangelists bodie after many yeares reposall in the graue or as the blinded Iewes to this day bragge the scepter of Iudah yet flourisheth beyond Babilon in Media or some vnknowne part of India whither no European is likely to resort for a disprouall of his relation 2 Vnto the demonstratiue euidences aswell of their errour in expounding Scriptures pretended for as of other Scriptures rightly alleaged by vs against their former or like decrees they will be readie to oppose what Bellarmine hath * done That the Church must iudge of Scriptures euidence and priuate errours in expounding it not priuate men of the Churches expositions Vnto the obiected dreadfull consequences of their decrees could these possibly be erroneous they would regest disobedience to the Church that to disobey it is to disobey God Father Sonne and Holy Ghost a sinne as hanious as mangling of Christs last will and Testament as Idolatrie On the contrarie to obey the Church euen in her negatiue decrees and naked decisions vngarded with any pretence of Scripture much more where this louing Mother for the education of her children will vouchsafe what shee need not to alleage some clause or sentence of Holy writ we obey not the Church onely but Gods Word also though not in those particular places which in our iudgements either contradict the former or like decrees or else make nothing at all for them yet in textes produced for the Churches transcendent generall authoritie As he that adores the consecrated hoste in procession because his holy Mother commands him so to doe or accoūts wāt of Christs bloud no losse because denied him by her authoritie although vnto priuate spirits he may seeme to contradict that Law Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him onely shalt thou serue doth yet sincerely obey the Holy Ghost and rightly obserue the true sence and meaning of these his dictates Peter I haue prayed for thee that faith should not faile Peter feed my sheep Thou art Peter and vpon this rocke will I build my Church From these places once firmely beleeuing the Church possibly cannot erre hee must not question whether the practises by it inioyned contradict the former lawes both being deliuered by the holy spirit who can not contradict himelfe This I take it is the summe of all the most learned of our aduersaries can or would reply vnto the former difficulties Not to draw faster but rather remitting the former bonds wherein they haue inextricably intangled themselues by their circular progresse in their resolution of faith admit their late doctrine lest any possibilitie of knowing Scriptures acknowledged by both to bee Gods word or of distinguishing humane testimonies written or vnwritten from diuine The present question we may draw with their free consent vnto this issue whether their beleef of the Churches infallible authoritie vndoubtedly established as they pretend in the fore cited places can bee truly resolued into any branch of the first truth or into humane testimonies onely If into the latter onely the case is cleare that absolutely obeying the Romish Church in the former or like decrees which her authoritie set aside to all or most mens consciences would seeme to contradict Gods principall lawes wee beleeue and in beleeuing obey men more then God humane authorities lawes or testimonies more then diuine 4 The strength or feeblenesse of Romane faith will best appeare if wee trie it in any one of these ioynts Whether by Diuine testimonie it can bee proued that Saint Peter had such an vniuersall infallibe absolute authoritie as these men attribute vnto the Pope Whether by like infallible testimonie it can bee proued the Popes from time to time without exception were Peters vndoubted successors heires apparant to all the preheminencies or prerogatiues he inioyed Whether either the soueraigntie or vniuersalitie of their authoritie supposed probable in it selfe or to themselues or particular iniunctions deriued from it can bee so fully notified to all Christians as they neede not question whether in yeelding obedience to such decrees of like consequences as were the former they doe not grieuously disobey Gods Word For though the Popes themselues might know this truth by Diuine reuelation or otherwise their internall assurance vnlesse generally communicable by diuine testimonies could be no warrant vnto others for vndertaking matters of feareful consequences whereof they doubt not onely out of secret instinct or grudging of their consciences but from an apprehension of opposition betwixt the very formes of lawes papall and diuine 5. First it is improbable that he to whom our Sauiour said If thy brother trespasse against thee di● Ecclesiae was the Church vnto which all must from which none may appeale Or if Peter the Pope if he will be Peters successor must in causes of controuersie appeale vnto the Church How is he then as our aduersaries contend the Church or such a part of it vnto whom all euen Peter himselfe were he aliue must appeale Must others appeale to him as Iudge in his owne cause or he vnto himselfe alone Not as alone but so a late Papist to my remembrance answeres Gerson as accompanied with his fellow Consull his Chaire which is to him as Caesar was to Iulius and so shall Gods word be to both as Bibulus was to Iulius Caesar a meere pretence or bare name of authority nothing else Yet if that word auouch that neither S. Peters or his successors faith could euer faile in determining controuersies we contradict it not the Popes decisions only if we doe not in all doubtfull doctrines fully rely vpon them CHAP. VI. That neither our Sauiours prayers for the not fayling of Peters faith Luke 22 ver 32. nor his commending his sheepe vnto his feeding Ioh. 21. ver 15 proue any supremacy in Peter ouer the Church from
continuall faithfulnesse in that seruice whereunto they knew him appointed Albeit after all the mighty workes before-mentioned wrought in their presence they had beene bound thereunto the meanest handmaid in that multitude had infallible pledges plenty of his extraordinary calling lockt vp in her own vnerring senses But from the strange yet frequent manifestation of Moses power and fauour with God so great as none besides the great Prophet whom hee prefigured might challenge the like the Lord in his all ●acing wisdome tooke fi●te occasion to allure his people unto strict obseruance of what he afterwards solemnly enacted as also in the● to forwarne all future generations without expresse warrant of his word not absolutely to belieue any gouernour whomsoeuer in all though of ●ried skill and fidelity in many principal points of his seruice That passage of Scripture wherin the manner of this peoples stipulation is registred well deserues an exact 〈◊〉 of all especially of these circumstances How the Lord by rehearsall of his mighty workes forepassed extorts their promise to doe whatsoeuer should by Moses be commanded them yet will not accept it offered vntill hee haue made them eare-witnesses of his familiarity and communication with him First out of the Mount he called Moses vnto him to deliuer this solemn message vnto the house of Iacob Yee haue seene what I did to the Egyptians and how I carried you vpon Eagles wings and haue brought you vnto mee Now therefore if you will heare my voice indeed and keepe my couenant then yee shall bee my chiefe ●easure aboue all people though all the earth be mine After Moses had reported vnto God this answere freely vttered with ioint consent of all the people solemnly assembled before their Elders All that the Lord commanded we will doe was the whole businesse betwixt God and them fully transacted by this Agent in their absence No hee is sent backe to sanctifie the people that they might expect Gods glorious appearance in Mount Sinai to ratifie what he had said vpon the returne of their answere Lo● I come vnto thee in a thicke cloud that the people may heare whilst I talke with thee and that they may also belieue thee for euer They did not belieue that God had reuealed his word to Moses for the wonders hee had wrought but rather that his wonders were from God because they heard God speake to him yea to themselues For their principall and fundamentall lawes were vttered by God himselfe in their hearing as Moses expresseth These words to wit the Decalogue the Lord spake vnto all your multitude in the mount out of the midst of the fire the cloud and the darkenesse with a great voice and added no more And lest the words which they had heard might soone bee smoothered in fleshly hearts or quickly slide out of their brittle memories the Lord wrote them in two Tables of stone and at their ●ranscription not Moses onely but Aaron Nadab and Abihu with the seuenty Elders of Israel are made spectators of the diuine glory rauished with the sweetnesse of his presence They saw saieth the Text the God of Israel and vnder his feet as it were a worke of a Saphire stone and as the very heauen when it is cleare And vpon the Nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand also they saw God and did eate and drinke After these Tables through Moses anger at the peoples folly and impiety were broken God writes the same words againe and renewes his Couenant before all the people promising vndoubted experience of his diuine assistance 8 Doth Moses after all this call fire from heauen vpon all such as distrust his words Aaron and Miriam openly derogate from his authority which the Lord confirmes againe viua voce descending in the pillar of the cloud conuenting these detractors in the dore of the Tabernacle Wherefore were you not afraid to speake against my seruant euen against Moses Thus the Lord was very angry and departed leauing his marke vpon Miriam cured of her leprosie by Moses instant prayers No maruell if Korah Dathan and Abirams iudgements were so grieuous when their sinne against Moses after so many documents of his high calling could not but bee wilfull as their perseuerance in it after so many admonitions to desist most malitious and obstinate Yet was Moses further countenanced by the appearance of Gods glory vnto all the congregation and his authority further ratified by the strange and fearefull end of these chief malefactors foretold by him and by fire issuing from the Lord to consume their confederates in offering incense vngratefull to their God Tantae molis erat Iudaeam condere gentem So long and great a worke it was to edifie Israel in true faith but without any like miracle or prediction such as neuer saw him neuer heard good of him must belieue the Pope as well as Israel did their Law-giuer that could make the sea to grant him passage the cloudes send bread the windes bring flesh and the hard rocke yeeld drink sufficient for him and all his mighty hoast that could thus call the heauens as witnesses to condemne appoint the earth as executioner of his iudgements vpon the obstinate and rebellious yet after all this hee inflicts no such punishments vpon the doubtfull in faith as the Romish Church doth but rather as is euident out of the places before alleadged confirmes them by commemoration of these late cited and like experiments making Gods fauours past the surest pledges of his assistance in greatest difficulties that could beset them To conclude this people belieued Moses for Gods testimony of him wee may not belieue Gods word without the Popes testimony of it Hee must bee to God as Aaron was to Moses his mouth whereby hee onely speakes distinctly or intelligibly to his people CHAP. VII That the Churches authority was no part of the rule of faith vnto the people after Moses death That by experiments answerable to his precepts and predictions the faithfull without relying vpon the Priests infallible proposals were as certaine both of the diuine truth and true meaning of the law as their forefathers had beene that liued with Moses and saw his miracles 1 TO proceed vnto the ages following Moses How did they know Moses law either indeed to bee Gods word or the true sence and meaning of it being indefinitely knowne for such By tradition Yes By tradition onely No But how at all by tradition As by a ioint part of that rule on which they were finally to relie Rather it was a meane to bring them vnto the due consideration or right application of the written rule which Moses had left them So hard were their hearts with whom this great Law-giuer had first to deale that faith could not take roote in them vnlesse first wrought and subacted by extraordinary signes and wonders but once thus created in them
Paul Without the helpe or ministery of man We maintaine as wel as they God is not a father to such as will not acknowledge the Church for their Mother Notwithstanding thus we conceiue and speake of the Church indefinitely taken not confined to any determinate place not appropriated to any indiuiduall or singularised persons Now to verifie an indefinite speech or proposition the truth of any one particular sufficeth As hee that should say Socrates by man was taught his learning doth not meane the specificall nature or whole Mankind but that Socrates as others had one man or other at the first to instruct him The same Dialect wee vse when wee say euery one that truely cals God father receiues instructions from the Church his Mother that is from some in the Church lawfully ordained for planting faith vnto whome such filiall obedience as else where wee haue spoken of is due The difference likewise betweene the Romanists and vs hath partly beene discussed before In briefe it is thus We hold this Ministery of the Church is a necessary condition or mean precedent for bringing vs to the infallible truth or true sense of Gods word yet no infallible rule whereon finally or absolutely wee must relie eyther for discerning diuine Reuelations or their true meaning But as those resemblances of colours which wee tearme Species visibiles are not seene themselues though necessary for the sight of reall colours so this Ministery of the Church albeit in it selfe not infallible is yet necessarily require for our right apprehension of the diuine truth which in it selfe alone is most infallible yea as infallible to vs as it was to the Apostles or Prophets after it be rightly apprehended The difference is in the manner of apprehending or conceiuing it They conceiued it immediately without the Ministery or instruction of man so cannot wee This difference elsewhere I haue thus resembled As trees and plants now growing vp by the ordinary husbandry of man from seedes precedent are of the same kind and quality with such as were immediately created by the hand of God so is the immediate ground of ours the Prophets and Apostles faith the same Albeit theirs was immediately planted by the finger of God ours propagated from their seed sowne and cherished by the dayly industry of faithfull Ministers 3 Neither in the substance of this assertion nor manner of the explication doe we much differ if ought from Canus in his second booke where he taxeth Scotus Durand and others for affirming the last resolution of our faith was to be made into the veracity or infallibility of the Church The Apostles and Prophets sayeth he resolued their faith into truth and authority diuine Therfore wee must not resolue our faith into the humane authority of the Church For the faith is the same and must haue the same formall reason For better confirmation of which assertion hee addes this reason Things incident to the obiect of any habite by accident do not alter the formall reason of the obiect Now that the Articles of faith should bee proposed by these or these men is meerely accidentall wherefore seeing the Apostles and Prophets did assent vnto the Articles of faith because God reuealed them the reason of our assent must bee the same Lastly hee concludes that the Churches authority miracles or the like are onely such precedent conditions or meanes for begetting faith as sensitiue knowledge exhortations or aduise of Masters are for bringing vs to certaine knowledge in demonstratiue faculties Had eyther this great Diuine spoken consequently to this doctrine in his 5. Booke or would the Iesuites auouch no more then here hee doth wee should bee glad to giue them the right hand of fellowshippe in this point But they goe all a wrong way vnto the truth or would to God any way to the truth or not directly to ouerthrow it Catharinus though in a manner ours in that question about the certainety of saluation sayeth more perhaps then they meant whom Canus late taxed Auouching as Bellarmine cites his opinion that diuine faith could not be certaine and infallible vnlesse it were of an obiect approued by the Church Whence would follow what Bellarmine there inferres that the Apostles and Prophets should not haue beene certain of their Reuelations immediately sent from God vntill the Church had approued them which is a doctrine well deseruing a sharper censure then Bellarmine bestowes on Catharinus Albeit to speake the truth Bellarmine was no fitte man to censure though the other most worthy to bee seuerely censured Catharinus might haue replyed that the Prophets and Apostles at least our Sauiour in whom Bellarmine instanceth were the true Church as well as they make the Pope Nor can Valentias with other late Iesuites opinions by any pretence or shew hardly Bellarmines owne be cleared from the same inconueniences he obiectes to Catharinus as will appeare vpon better examination to bee made hereafter CHAP. II. That the Churches proposall is the true immediate and prime cause of all absolute beliefe any Romanist can haue concerning any determinate diuine Reuelation 1 WHereas Valentian and as he sayes Caietan deny the Churches infallible proposal to be the cause why we belieue diuine Reuelations This speech of his is equiuocall and in the equiuocation of it I thinke Valentian sought to hide the truth The ambiguity or fallacie is the same which was disclosed in Bellarmines reply vnto vs obiecting that Pontificians make the Churches authority greater then Scriptures In this place as in that the word of God or diuine reuelations may bee taken eyther indefinitely for whatsoeuer God shall hee supposed to speake or for those particular Scriptures or Reuelations which wee suppose hee hath already reuealed and spoken Or Valentian may speake of the obiect of our beliefe not of beliefe it selfe If wee take his meaning in the former sense what hee sayth is most true For the Churches infallibility is no cause why wee belieue that to bee true which wee suppose God hath reuealed nor did wee euer charge them with this assertion This is an Axiome of nature presupposed in all Religions yet of which none euer knew to make so great secular vse as the Romish Church doth But if wee speake of that Canon of Scripture which wee haue or any things contained in it all which wee and our aduersaries iointly suppose to haue come from God the onely cause why wee doe or can rightly belieue them is by Iesuiticall doctrine the Churches infallibility that commends them vnto vs. 2 If that Church which Valentian holdes so infallible should haue saide vnto him totidem verbis you must beleeue the books of Maccabes are canonicall euen for this reason that your holy Catholike Mother tels you so hee durst not but haue belieued as well the reason as the matter proposed To witte That these Bookes were Canonicall because the Church had enioyned him so to think albeit his priuate conscience left to Gods
both meanes of accomplishing Natures or rather the God of Naturs purpose in whose will or pleasure the finall cause of any naturall effect alwayes consists And seeing nothing in Nature can preoccupate his will no cause can be precedent to the finall This consideration of natural effects tending as certainly to their proposed end as the arrowe flyes to the marke caused the irreligious Philosopher to acknowledge the direction of an intelligent supernaturall agent in their working the accomplishment of whose will and pleasure as I said must bee the finall cause of their motions as his will or pleasure which bestowes the charges not the Architect vnlesse he be the owner also is the finall cause why the house is built Finally euery end supposeth the last intention of an intelligent agent whereof to giue a reason by the efficient which onely produceth works or meanes thereto proportioned would be as impertinent as if to one demaunding why the bell rings out it should bee answered because a strong fellow puls the rope 7 Now that which in our aduersaries Doctrine answeres vnto the cause indemonstrable whereinto finall resolution of Natures workes or intentions of intelligent agents must be resolued is the churches authoritie Nor can that if wee speake properly be resolued into any branch of the first truth for this reason besids others alleadged before that all resolutions whether of our perswasiōs or intentions or of their obiects works of Art or Nature suppose a stability or certainty in the first links of the chaine which wee vnfolde the latter alwayes depending on the former not the former on the latter As in resolutions of the latter kinde lately mentioned imitating the order of composition actuall continuation of life depends on breathing not breathing on it breathing on the lunges not the lunges mutually on breathing so in resolutions of the other kind which invertes the order of composition the vse or necessitie of lunges dependes vpon the vse or necessitie of breathing the necessity or vse of breathing vpon the necessity or vse of life or vpon his will or pleasure that created one of these for another Thus againe the sensitiue facultie depends vpon the vital that vpon mixtion mixtion vpon the Elements not any of these mutually vpon the sensitiue faculty if wee respect the order of supportance or Natures progresse in their production Whence hee that questions whether some kinds of plants haue sense or some stones or mettals life supposeth as vnquestionable that the former haue life that the second are mixt bodies But if we respect the intent or purpose of him that sets nature a working all the former faculties dpend on the sensitiue the sensitiue not on any of them For God would not haue his creatures indued with sense that they might liue or liue that they might haue mixt bodies but rather to haue such bodies that they might liue to liue that they might enioy the benefit of sense or the more noble faculties 8 Can the Iesuite thus assigne any determinate branch of the first truth as stable and vnquestionable before it be ratified by the Churches authoritie Euident it is by his positions that he cannot and as euident that beliefe of the churches authority cannot depend vpon any determinate branch of the first truth much lesse can it distinctly be thereinto resolued But contrariwise presse him with what Diuine precept soeuer written or vnwritten though in all mens iudgements the churches authoritie set aside most contradictory to their approoued practises for example That the second Commaundement forbids worshipping Images or adoration of the consecrate host he straight inuerts your reason thus Rather the second commandement forbids neyther because the holy Church which I beleeue to bee infallible approueth both Lastly hee is fully resolued to beleeue nothing for true which the Church disproues nothing for false or erroneous which it allowes Or if he would answere directly to this demaund To what end did God cause the Scriptures to be written He could not consonant to his tenents say That wee might infallibly rely vpon them but rather vpon the Churches authoritie which it establisheth For Gods word whether written or vnwritten is by their Doctrine but as the testimonie of some men deceased indefinitely presumed for infallible but whose materiall extent the Church must first determine and after wards iudge without all appeale of their true meaning Thus are all parts of Diuine truthes supposed to be reuealed more essentially subordinate to the Churches authoritie then ordinary witnesses are to royall or supreme iudgment For they are supposed able to deliuer what they know in termes intelligible to other mens capacities without the Prince or Iudges ratification of their sayings or expositions of their meanings and iudgment is not ordained for producing witnesses but production of witnesses for establishing iudgement Thus by our aduersaries Doctrine Gods word must serue to establish the Churches authority not the Churches authority to confirme the immediate soueraigntie of it ouer our soules 9 Much more probably might the Iew or Turke resolue his faith vnto the first truth then the moderne Iesuited Papist can For though their deductions from it be much what alike all aequally sottish yet these admit a stabilitie or certainty of what the first Truth hath said no way dependant vpon their authority that first proposed or commended it vnto them The Turkes would storme to heare any Mufti professe he were as well to be beleeued as was Mahomet in his life time that without his proposall they could not know eyther the olde testament or the Alcoran to bee from God So would the Iewes if one of their Rabbines should make the like comparison betwxit himselfe and Moses as the Iesuite doth betwixt Christ and the Pope who besides that hee must bee as well beleeued as his Master leaues the authority of both testaments vncertaine to vs vnlesse confirmed by his infallibility But to speake properly the pretended deriuation of all three heresies from the first truth hath a liuely resemblance of false petigrees none at all of true doctrine and resolutions Of all the three the Romish is most ridiculous as may appeare by their seuerall representations As imagine there should be three Competitors for the Romane Empire all pleading it were to descend by inheritance not by election all pretending lineall succession from Charles the Great The first like to the Iew alleageth an authentique petigree making him the eldest The second resembling the Turke replyes that the other indeede was of the eldest line but long since disinherited often conquered and enforced to resigne whence the inheritance descended to him as the next in succession The third like the Romanist pleades it was bequeathed him by the Emperours last wil and testament from whose death his Ancestors haue beene intitled to it and produceth a petigree to this purpose without any other confirmation then his owne authority adding withal that vnlesse his competitors and others will beleeue his
many places bee certaine of it vnlesse Tradition be assistant It is an offer worth the taking that here he makes That the sense of Scriptures is the sword of the spirit This is as much as wee contend that the sense of the Scripture is the Scripture Whence the inference is immediately necessary That if the Romish Church binde vs to belieue or absolutely practise ought contrary to the true sense and meaning of Scriptures with the like deuotion we doe Gods expresse vndoubted commandements she preferres her owne authority aboue Gods word and makes vs acknowledge that allegiance vnto her which we owe vnto the spirit For suppose wee had as yet no full assurance of the spirit for the contradictory sense to that giuen by the Church we were in christian duty to expect Gods prouidence and inuoke the spirits assistance for manifestation of the truth from all possibility wherof wee desperately exclude our selues if wee belieue one mans testimony of the spirit as absolutely irreuoucably as we would do the manifest immediate testimony of the spirit yet Sacroboscus acknowledgeth hee beliues the mystery of the Trinity as it is taught by their Church onely for the Churches authority and yet this hee beleeues as absolutely as hee doth yea as hee could belieue any other diuine Reuelation though extraordinarily made vnto himselfe 3 In both parts of beliefe aboue mentioned the causall dependance of our faith vpon the Churches proposals may be imagined three wayes eyther whilest it is in planting or after it is planted or from the first beginning of it to it full growth or from it first entrance into our hearts vntill our departure out of this world How farre and in what sort the Ministery of men in the Church is auaileable for planting faith hath been declared heretofore Eyther for the planting or supporting it the skill or authority of the teachers reaches no further then to quicken or strengthen our internal taste or apprehension of the diuine truth reuealed in Scriptures or to raise or tune our spirites as Musicke did Elishahs the better to perceiue the efficacy of Gods spirit imprinting the stampe of those diuine Reuelations in our hearts whose Characters are in our braines The present Churches proposals in respect of our beliefe is but as the Samaritan womans report was vnto the men of Sichars Many sayth the Euangelist belieued in him for the saying of the woman which testified he hath told mee all things that euer I did But this beliefe was as none in respect of that which they conceiue immediately from his owne words For they saide vnto the woman Now wee belieue not because of thy saying for we haue heard him our selues and know that this is indeede the Christ. The eare sayeth Iob tryeth the words as the mouth tasteth meates Consonant hereto is our Churches doctrine that as our bodily mouthes taste and trie meates immediately without interposition of any other mans sense or iudgement of them so must the eares of our soules trie and discerne diuine truthes without relying on other mens proposals or reports of their rellish No externall meanes whatsoeuer can in eyther case haue any vse but onely eyther for working a right disposition in the Organ whereby triall is made or by occasioning the exercise of the faculty rightly disposed How essentially faith by our aduersaries doctrine dependes vpon the churches authority is euident out of the former discourses that this dependance is perpetuall is as manifest in that they make it the iudge and rule of faith such an indefectible rule and so authentique a Iudge as in all points must be followed and may not be so far examined eyther by Gods written law or rules of nature whether it contradict not it selfe or them 4 It remaines we examine the particular maner of this dependance or what the Churches infallibility doth or can performe eyther to him that belieues or to the obiect of his beleefe whēce a Romane Catholikes faith should become more firme or certaine then another mans It must enlighten eyther his soule that it may see or diuine reuelations that they may be seene more clearely otherwise he can exceed others onely in blinde beleefe The cunningest Sophister in that schoole strictly examined vpon these points will bewray that monstrous blasphemy which some shallow braines haue hitherto hoped to couer Wee haue the same Scriptures they haue and peruse them in all the languages they doe What is it then can hinder eyther them from manifesting or vs from discerning their Truth or true meaning manifested Doe we want the Churches proposall we demand how their present Church it selfe can better discerne them then ours may what testimonie of antiquity haue they which we haue not But it may be we want spectacles to read them our Church hath but the eyes of priuate men which cannot see without a publike light Their Churches eyes are Cat-like able so to illustrate the obiects of Christian faith as to make them cleare and perspicuous to it selfe though darke and inuisible vnto vs. Suppose they could Yet Cats-eyes benefit not by-standers a whit for seeing colours in darknes albeit able themselues to see them without any other light then their owne The visible Church saith the Iesuite is able to discerne all diuine truth by her infallible publique spirit How knowes he this certainly without an infallible publique spirit perhaps as men see Cats-eyes shine in the darke when their owne doe not Let him beleeue so But what doth this beleefe aduantage him or other priuate spirits for the cleare distinct or perfect sight of what the Church proposeth Doth the proposall make diuine Truthes more perspicuous in themselues Why then are they not alike perspicuous to all that heare reade or know the Churches testimonie of them Sacroboscus hath said al that possibly can be said on their behalfe in this difficultie The Sectaries albeit they should vse the authoritie of the true Church yet cannot haue any true beleefe of the truth reuealed If the vse of it be as free to them as to Catholikes what debarres them from this benefit They doe not acknowledge the sufficiencie of the Churches proposall And as a necessary proofe or medium is not sufficient to the attayning of science vnlesse a man vse and acknowledge it formally as necessary so for establishing true faith it sufficeth not that the Church sufficiently proposeth the points to be beleeued or auoweth them by that infallible authoritie wherewith Christ hath enabled her to declare both what bookes containe Doctrines Diuine and what is the true sense of places controuersed in them but it is further necessary that wee formally vse this proposall as sufficient and embrace it as infallible 5 The reason then why a Romane Catholique rightly beleeues the Truth or true meaning of Scriptures when a Protestant that knowes the Churches testimonie as well as he in both points vncertaine is because the Catholique infallibly beleeues the Churches authority to bee
infallible whereof the Protestant otherwise perswaded reapes no benefit by it but continues still in darknesse labouring in vaine to see the truth of Diuine reuelations without it as much in vaine as if a man should striue to see colours without light For this is Sacroboscus instance Besides the habite of faith seated in the vnderstanding and the supernaturall concourse of the Holy Spirit due to all endued with the habite of faith but necessary in respect of the subiect or partie two things more are requisite on the behalfe of the obiect of which if eyther bee wanting the facultie can neuer performe it proper function Of these two the one is that the proposition to be beleeued be reuealed by God the other that there be a sufficient proposall made to vs that God hath reuealed it For an vnsufficient proposall of any obiect is as none as may appeare by the example of light which proposeth Colours to bee seene For when the light is weake or scant we cannot discerne Colours not that wee want a visible obiect but because we want light sufficient to illuminate the obiect or the space betwixt vs and it Hee addes withall such as disclaime the Churches authoritie and are content with this That Truths of faith are reuealed by God in his Word and hence promise themselues the supernaturall concourse of the Holy Ghost for producing acts of faith are destitute of a sufficient proposer and their presumption such as if a man should perswade himselfe because hee hath Colours before his eyes and God readie to affoord his ordinary concourse as oft as he is disposed to exercise his visiue facultie hee should bee able to see them without light For saith this Iesuite the Prophets are dead Apostles dead Christ go●e to Heauen and in stead of al Prophets Apostles or himselfe hath left vs his Church Nor is it to bee expected that God will euery where vpon all occasions supply the want of the externall proposals by the aboundance of internall illuminations as hee did to our first parent or Saint Paul who had his Gospell neyther from man nor by man but by the reuelation of Iesus Christ For those are priuiledges 6 The calumnie intended in this last instance hath often heretofore beene preuented Wee neuer denyed eyther the necessity or sufficiency of the Churches proposall as an externall meane wee accompt no other of that ranke and nature is or could bee eyther more necessary or more sufficient Saint Paul we grant had an extraordinary priuiledge and yet for his priuate information had the Truth proposed vnto him by Ananias though the gifts of his publique Ministery were immediately from God Both the measure of his faith and manner of attayning it were vnvsuall but his faith it selfe once attained no otherwise independent of any externall proposall then ours is and all Christians must be Wee should haue beene more beholden to this professor had he distinctly told vs what it is in their language to haue a sufficient proposer albeit this wee may gather from his wordes late cited and these following The Sectaryes take vpon them to correct the Churches sentence as oft as they list and then they oppose Christ to the Church as if the Church did propose one thing and Christ teach another If they admitted any Church as a sufficient proposer they were bound to conforme their opinions to it in all things As you heard before out of Bellarmine That the Popes decrees may not bee examined whether consonant or contrary to Gods word or the foundations of faith already laid in our hearts and out of Canus That we must beleeue the Church absolutely without ifs or ands Thus beleeuing we haue Gods Word sufficiently proposed without this beleefe or acknowledgement of such authoritie in the Church we haue no sufficient proposall of it but striue as foolishly to heare God speake as if wee sought to see Colours without the light 7 It appeares I hope as clearely to the Reader as to mee that the Churches testimonie or authority by our aduersaries Doctrine benefits none but such as stedfastly and absolutely beleeue it in all things But hee that so beleeues it may by it easily beleeue all other points as he that can perfectly see the light may see Colours by it Want of this radicall beleefe in vs makes our faith in their opinion so vnstable or rather blinde and dead Yet can I hardly perswade my selfe all of them will grant the Church addes any inherent or participated splendor to diuine reuelations whereby they become perspicuous in themselues as Colours are made visible by irradiation of the Sunne Thus much notwithstanding all of them I know willingly would subscribe vnto A Protestant can neyther of himselfe be infallibly perswaded of the Truth of Scriptures or other conclusions of faith nor doth he asolutely beleeue any others that are infallible in their determinations but a Roman Catholike albeit by his priuate spirit he cannot infallibly beleeues them yet he infallibly beleeues the Church which cannot erre in beleefe All then that a Papist hath more then a Protestant is this his beleefe of the Church if once he doubt of this he is where he was Which in plaine termes is as much as to say he beleeues the Church concerning Scriptures not Scriptures That this is the true interpretation of their tenent may easily be gathered from their owne writings For Bellarmine expressely contends and all of them suppose that saying of Saint Austine Non crederem Euangelio nisi me commoueret Ecclesiae authoritas I would not beleeue the Gospell vnlesse the Churches authoritie did thereto moue me to bee true as well after faith is produced whilest it continues as whiles it is in planting Now if a man should say Non crederem Francisco nisi me commoueret Petri fidelitas I would not trust Frances but for Peters word this speech resolued into it naturall or proper sense is aequiualent vnto this I doe not trust Frances but Peter that giues his word for him And in case Peter should proue false or bee distrusted by him that tooke his word for Frances as yet not beleeued but for Peters sake the creditor could haue no hold of eyther Thus if Bellarmine and his fellowes bee as they would seeme to make Saint Austine minded not to beleeue the Gospell but for the Churches authoritie or proposall of it let them speake plainly and properly not in parables or metaphors and so we shall know their meaning to be That they indeed beleeue not the Scriptures but the Church or the Church truly and really the Scriptures onely by extrinsecall denomination 8 Nor can they reply eyther consequently to Sacrobos●us instance or their generall tenents that as he which sees colours by the light truly sees colours not the light onely so hee that beleeues Scriptures by the Churches infallible proposall beleeues not the Churches proposall onely but Scriptures as truely and properly The
THE THIRD BOOKE OF COMMENTARIES VPON THE APOSTLES CREEDE Contayning the blasphemous Positions of Iesuites and other later Romanists concerning the authoritie of their Church Manifestly prouing that whosoeuer yeelds such absolute Beleefe vnto it as these men exact doth beleeue it better then Gods word his SONNE his PROPHETS EVANGELISTS or APOSTLES or rather truly beeleeues no part of their writings or any article in this CREEDE Continued by THOMAS IACKSON B. of Diuinitie and Fellow of CORPVS CHRISTI College in OXFORD 1. King 18. v. 21. How long halt yee betweene two opinions if the Lord be God follow him but if Baal follow him LONDON Printed by WILLIAM STANSBY and are to be sold by Iohn Budge at the great South doore of Paules and at Brittaines Bursse 1614. TO THE RIGHT REVEREND FATHER IN GOD AND MY HONORABLE LORD WILLIAM BY DIVINE PROVIDENCE L. BISHOP OF DVRHAM Grace and Peace bee multiplied RIght Reuerend Father the sweet refreshing your Honourable fauours did yeeld to such of my labors as hitherto enioy the light when a suddaine vncomfortable blast had sorely nipt them in the very setting makes these last gatherings of that spring seeke that comfortable warmth vnder your benigne protection which the vnconstant frowning season would hardly affoord them in their growth Besides these and other my personall obligements that famous and worthy founder of this Attick Beehiue of whose sweetnesse would God I had beene as capable as I haue beene long partaker had neuer allotted any Cell therein for me or other Countriman of mine but with particular relation to that seat of dignitie which he sometimes did your Lordship now doth and to the encrease of Gods glorie and good of his Church long may enioy Seeing this our great foster Father is now ignorant of his childrens demeanor and knowes not me it shall be my comfort to haue his honourable successors witnesses of my care and industrie to fulfill his godly desire whose religious soule in his life time as his written lawes doe testifie did detest nothing more then idlenesse in the Ministrie specially in his adopted Sonnes The matters I here present vnto your Lordships the worlds view are sometimes in themselues so harsh and hard to be concocted as he that would striue to make them toothsome vnto nice tastes should put himselfe to excessiue paines vnlesse his iudgement be much riper his wit readier his inuention pleasanter his opportunities better and his leisure greater then mine are But it is one and the same point of iudgement not to require exact Mathematicall proofes in discourses of moralitie or a smooth facile Rhetorical stile in Logical or Scholastique conflicts And as by the statutes of that societie wherein I liue I am bound to auoid barbarisme so my particular inclination moues me in controversies especially to approue his choice that said Fortia mallem quam formosa If any professed enemie to the truth we teach will answere me from point to point or attempt not as their custome now is only in scoffing sort but seriously to auert those vnsupportable but deserued imputations I lay vpon the foundation of his Religion I shall I trust be able to answere him the better by continuance of your Lordships wonted fauours whom I still request the Christian Readers as many as reape any profit from my paines on my behalfe to remember with such respect as is due to honorable Patrons of religious studies or cherishers of painefull endeuours in good causes From Corpus Christi College March xxv 1614. Your Lordships in all obseruance THOMAS IACKSON To the indifferent Reader specially to the learned Artists of the two famous VNIVERSITIES CHristian and beloued Reader I haue been detained in this entrie though not longer then the structure of it required yet then I my selfe or thou perhaps could haue wished for speedier dispatch of the maine edifice intended Somewhat notwithstanding to my apprehension I had obserued whereby Artists more accurate but yonger Diuines then my selfe whose furtherance in the like throughout all my meditations I still respect might bee directed for taking sure hold of their slipperie antagonists in this conflict And finding my selfe euery day then other more vnapt more vnwilling at least to bee any Actor in quarrels of this nature because most desirous to spend my mortall spirits in opening the pleasant Fountaines of immortalitie I thought it not altogether vnlawful to dispence with these labours for a while in hope to prosequute them more safely and with better successe hereafter by seconding such as had gone before mee with my small strength for intercepting these despitefull Philistims which continually labour to damme vp these sacred Wells of life Many excellent wits and graue Diuines as well in our English as other reformed Churches I knew had accurately deciphered the speciall characters of the Beast and demonstrated most properties of great Antichrist vpon the Pope But that the fundamentall charter of the Romish Church or the commission pretended by Iesuites for the erection of it should as the manner was to demolish lesser religious houses for building others more magnificent extend to raze the very first foundations of religion as common to Christians Iewes and Turkes that the acknowledgement of such infallibilitie as they Deifie her with should be more incompatible with Christianitie then any Idolatrie of the Heathen that such as absolutely beleeue all her decrees without examination truely beleeue no article of this Creede with the like principall branches of Antichristianisme were points for ought I knew rather touched by the way or proposed as clear in themselues to the indifferent and ingenuous that iudge of the Romish Church by the knowne picture of her misse-shapen limmes then prosequuted at large or with purpose to pull off that artificiall painting wherewith late Iesuites haue so beautified this vgly Monsters face that the world bewitched with gazing too much on it cānot but loue her other deformities though in themselues most loathsome For though the practises enioyned by her bee so vile as would haue caused Rome Heathen to haue blushed at their mention or her other doctrines so palpably grosse that her owne Sonnes heretofore haue derided them and as yet spare to speake ought in particular for their defence yet to salue all this it must suffice that the Church which cannot erre hath now authorized them If any thinke I preiudice the truth of moderate accusations by laying such heauie imputations vpon this doctrine as make it incomparably more detestable then any other hee speakes not inconsequently to his positions if hee hold the Trent Councell was infallibly assisted by the holy Ghost or that the Pope in Cathedrall resolutions cannot erre But he which thinkes foule impieties may bring Romish Prelates out of fauour with the spirit of truth and make them as obnoxious to errors as others are or can perswade himselfe that many practises and opinions by that Church alreadie authorized are in their nature abominable and impious must either accord to me
most part make profession of Yet such is the brittlenesse of the matter they are to worke vpon in this controuersie that were all the Priests and Iesuites harboured within the confines of great Brittaine at this present day but enioyned to write all they could to any purpose in defence of their Mother some few Artists of those Vniuersities which out of their pride they seeme to vilifie amongst the ignorant would I dare not say make them blush for sooner might they make a black-moores face of the same colour with his teeth but as many of their fauourers of this Kingdome as haue not sworne allegeance to the Church of Rome and are able to examine an argument to bee ashamed on their behalfe euen to acknowledge that for ought these Mounte-bankes could say or write in their defence the Positions maintayned by their Masters forraine Iesuites were indeed idolatrous and blasphemous howbeit the Church it selfe wee must beleeue could neuer bee vanquished because no man can tell where or in what shape to finde it Nor neede yong Artists feare the countenance of antiquitie in this point from which their enemies supplies are so slender that would they come to open triall and bring only such of the Fathers for their seconds as liued within fiue hundred yeares of Christ or before the mixture of Romish Religion with Heathenisme not fully effected till a little after that time the paucitie of those whose aide they durst solicit in respect of that great armie which is as resolute as wee against them would make them instantly either yeeld themselues or forsake the field Nor haue they beene hitherto able to addresse any answere but to their shame to the Worthies of the English Church whose labours haue made the conquest in this quarrell easie to any of their successors that will aduenture to follow their steps Nothing remaines but what best becomes the exercise of yong wits to exceede the sophisticall disputes of Iesuites against the truth in copiousnesse of irrefragable demonstrations that the allegeance they seeke to establish vnto the Romish Church is solemne apostasie from Christ that the beliefe of it is the very abstract of sorcerie the vtmost degree of Antichristianisme that can bee expected These and like points being fortified by strength of argument in the time of your Regencie or fare-well to the studie of Artes might bee polished at your better leisure afterwards to be reuised and published at the appointment of authoritie Or if the zeale of Gods glorie thus mightily eclipsed by this foule Idoll of the Romish Church doe not as yet so fully moue you yet that indignation which first wrought a desire in mee of giuing this onset should worke me thinks in euery heart that beares any sparkle of loue vnto his natiue Countrie For what indignitie is it to thinke that whilst our gracious Soueraigne is a most zealous Professor and Defendor of the truth we teach so many of his naturall subiects our Countrimen and Brethren should bee wonne vnto the Romish faction especially by importunate inculcating two heresies of all maintayned by that Church in themselues most sottishly improbable and yet apparently most damnable Idolaters in their consequences if erroneous I meane this concerning their Churches absolute priuiledge from all errour and that other of Christs reall presence in the Sacrament by transubstantiation It cannot againe but adde much to our griefe and indignation if we call to minde how when the chiefe Gouernour and publique authoritie of this Land were for them subscription was not vrged vpon such violent and bloudie termes vnto any articles of their Religion as vnto that of reall presence The mysterie of which iniquitie cannot better bee resolued then into the powerfull and deceitfull working of Satan thus delighting to despite our Lord and Sauiour by seducing his professed subiects vnto the highest and most desperate kinde of rebellion he could imagine vpon the least occasions and shallowest reasons For such is their madnesse in that other point as hath beene shewed in this Not one inconuenience they can obiect to our opinion but may be demonstrated against theirs not any fruits of godlinesse they can pretend but our doctrine more directly brings forth then theirs could though we did admit it for true For to what other purpose such a presence as they imagine should serue them saue only to countenance those desperate Idolatrous practices and litourges of Satan touched by the way in some parts of these discourses is inexplicable as shall be shewed more at large without depriuing that heauenly mysterie of any solemnitie of deuotion due vnto it in the vnfolding of that controuersie Yours in Christ Iesus THOMAS IACKSON A Table of Scriptures expounded or illustrated by obseruations in this third Booke of COMMENTARIES Out of the old Testament Exodus 4 13 SEnd I pray thee by the hand of him whom thou shouldest send Sect. 3. Chap. 11. Paragraph 20. 14 13 Feare ye not stand still and behold the saluation of the Lord. sec 3. c. 6. par 5. 15 26 If thou wilt diligently hearken O Israel vnto the voice of the Lord thy God c. ibid. 17 7 Is the Lord among vs or no ibid. p. 7. 16 12 I haue heard the murmurings of the children of Israel ibid. 19 4 Yee haue seene what I did vnto the Aegyptians c. ibid. p. 7. 20 10 In it thou shalt doe no māner of worke c. sec 3. c. 1. p. 8 24 10 They said the God of Israel sect 3. c. 6. par 5. p. 7 24 9 Then went vp Moses and Aaron sect 3. c. 11. par 10 28 30 Also thou shalt put in the breast-plate of iudgment the Vrim and the Thummim c. sect 3. c. 1. p. 2. 3. Leviticus 10 9 THou shalt not drinke wine nor strōg drinke c. sect 3. c. 1. p. 5. Numbers 11 16 GAther vnto mee seuentie men of the Elders of Israel sect 3. c. 11. p. 9. 12 6 If there be a Prophet of the Lord among you c. ibid. par 10. 23 22 God brought them out of Aegypt their strength is an an Vnicorne c. ibid. par 20. 27 21 And he shal stand before Eleazar the Priest c. sect 3. c. 1. p. 3. Deuteronomie 11 29 WHen the LORD thy GOD therefore hath brought thee into the Land whither c. sect 3 c. 7 p. 4 4 1 2 Now therefore hearken O Israel vnto the ordināces c. sect 3 c. 6 p 5 4 ●9 Take heede to thy selfe keep thy soule diligently that thou forget not c. sec 3 c. 7 p. 6 5 22 These words the Lord spake vnto all your multitude in the Mount c. sect c. 6 p. 7. 5. 28 29 I haue heard the voice of the words of this people sect 3 c. 11 p. 18 10 17 The Lord your God is God of Gods and Lord of Lords c. sec 3 c. 9 p. 6 11 2 Consider this day for I speake not vnto your children
Gods working in miracles effected by his owne immediate peculiar power without the coagencie of any inferiour or created cause he may resolue of himselfe alone not consulting his Cardinals Bishops or others This power and libertie the Trent Councell it selfe seemes to giue vnto the Pope as it were for an vp-shot to all the fooles thunderbolts they had let slie before And least any man should thinke this absolute acknowledgement of the Popes plenarie power to be a Counsell rather then a necessarie precept The Cathechisme published by the Trent Councels authoritie hath inserted amongst the Articles of faith That the present Pope is the sole visible head of the whole Christian Church though Christ the inuisible The meaning of which if I mistake not is this That the Pope concerning the points aboue mentioned hath as absolute power in Christs absence as Christ himselfe should haue were he present or shall haue in that day of finall iudgement wherein if these mens positions bee true he shall haue nothing to doe in matters of saith but onely to ratisie what the Pope hath defined who must not be called to any account of his Spirituall as Kings and Monarchs must be for their Temporall Stewardships nor shall it be said to him as it must be to some of them Well done thou good and faithfull Seruant For such men onely by our aduersaries Doctrine doe well as might haue done ill but the Pope liue as hee list cannot possibly doe a misse in determining matters of Faith which are of all that are of greatest difficultie and consequence 14 When first I reade Iosephus Acoste I much wondred to see a man otherwise of an ingenuous spirit and of partes so excellent so zealous withall for the Popes Supremacie But now I perceiue the reason was all priuate Catechismes were to bee conformed vnto that publique one authorized by the Councell and Pope Amongst other contents of that Article of the Catholique Church almost quite omitted in the former Indian Catechismes Acostaes aduise is to haue this inserted as an essentiall part That the Pope is head of the Catholique Church Christs Vicar on earth indued with his plenarie power to whom all other Christians Kings and Princes not excepted owe obedience These allegations may testifie our sinceritie in proposing the state of the question and points of difference betwixt vs gathered not out of one or two but the generall agreement of best Romish Writers and whereunto Valentian were hee aliue would willingly subscribe For he as since I haue obserued proposeth the title of his maine Controuersie concerning the Churches authoritie in tearmes aequiualent to those I vsed Lib. 2. Section 1. Cap. 3. and Lib. 1. Parag. Vlt. SECT II. The first branch of Romish blasphemie in preferring humane authoritie before Diuine AGainst these late recited and infinite other aequiualent assertions frequent in their publique determinations and best priuate Writers our Writers vsually obiect If the Church be iudge of Scriptures her authoritie must be aboue the Scriptures If the sense of Scripture without the Church or Popes asseueration or proposall be not authentique nor apt to beget most firme beleefe then the word of God must receiue strength and authoritie from the word of man Some Romish Writers grant the inference with this restraint In respect of vs and yet wipe their mouthes with the whore in the Prouerbe as if they had neither commited Idolatrie nor spoken blasphemie But Bellarmine was too cunning a Baude to expose his mothers foule face to publique view without more artificiall painting CHAP. I. Bellarmines Reply to the maine obiection iointly vrged by all Reformed Churches against the Romish the Equiuocation which hee sought in the obiection apparently found in his Reply 1 THE former argument howsoeuer much esteemed by such as bring it yet in Bellarmines iudgment is very weake and as hee suspects sicke of his owne disease Totum in aequiuocatione versatur The aequiuocation he seeketh to vnfold with this distinction The former speeches may admit a double sence First their meaning may bee that the Church doth iudge whether that which the Scriptures teach be true or false Or Secōdly This sure foundation of faith being first laid The words of Scripture are most infallible and true The Church doth iudge which is the true interpretation or meaning of them This distinction he applieth thus The former obiectuns were pertinent if we held the Pope or Councell to determine of Scriptures in the former sence but taking our right meaning they are meere calumnies For we affirme the Church to iudge Scriptures onely in the later and so to iudge them doth not set the Church or Pope aboue Scriptures but aboue the iudgment of priuate men Nor doth the Church by this assertion become a Iudge of Scriptures truth but of priuate mens vnderstanding Neither will it hence follow that the word of God recetueth strength from the word of man but priuate mens knowledge may and doth receiue strength and infallibilitie from the Church Finally the Scripture or Word of God as Bellarmine thinkes is neither more true or certaine because it is expounded by the Church but euerie mans opinion is more true and stable when it is confirmed by the Churches exposition or decision Hee hath said as much as the whole Councell of Trent could haue said for themselues But let vs see if this be enough 2 A priuate mans opinion saith Bellarmine is truer when it is confirmed by the Church If we had only an opinion of the truth or sence of Scriptures the consent of others especially men skilfull in such maters would indeede much confirme vs for all opinions or vncertaine perswasions receiue increase of strength from addition of probabilities But his words are more generall and concerne not onely vncertaine but all perswasions that a faithfull man in this life can haue of Gods Word at least of those writings which wee and they acknowledge for such and the marke he aimes at is That no perswasion in diuine matters can be certaine without the Churches confirmation as hee expressely addeth in his answere to the next argument 3 If the Reader will be attentiue hee shall easily perceiue that not our Writers obiections but Bella●mines answere is tainted with aequiuocation For this speech of his The Church doth iudge whether that which the Scriptures teach be true or false hath a double and doubtfull sence It may be meant either Of Scriptures taken indefinitly or indeterminately for that which God hath spoken whatsoeuer that be Of those particular Scriptures which wee and they acknowledge or any determinate written or vnwritten precepts questionable whether they were from God or no. 4 If we speake of Scriptures in the former sence Bellarmines answere is true For the Romish Church doth not take vpon her to iudge whether that which is supposed or acknowledged by all for Gods word be most true in it proper natiue but
other portions of Scripture is not grounded vpon any preheminencie incident to these words as they are Gods as if they were more his then the rest in some such peculiar sort as the Tenne Commaundements are in respect of other Mosaicall Lawes nor from any internall proprietie flowing from the wordes themselues as if their secret character did vnto faithfull mindes bewray them to be more Diuine then others nor from any precedent consequent or comitant circumstance probably arguing that sence the Romish Church giues of them to be of it selfe more perspicuous or credible then the naturall meaning of most other Scriptures all inspired by one and the same spirit all for their forme of equall authoritie and perspicuitie All the prerogatiue then which these passages can haue before others must be from the matter contained in them and that by our aduersaries position is the Churches infallibilitie Wherefore not because they are Gods word or were giuen by his Spirit in more extraordinarie sort then others but because they haue more affinitie with the Roman Lord in late yeares exalted aboue all that is called God Father Sonne or Holy Ghost these places aboue cited must bee more authentikely beleeued then all the wordes of God besides As I haue read of pictures though not more artificiall in themselues yet helde in greater estimation amongst the Heathen and freer from contemptuous censure then any other of the same Painters doing onely because they represented their great God Iupiter 11 Another difficultie whereunto we demand an answere is whether whiles they assent as they professe not onely to the infallibilitie taught as they suppose in the fore cited places but also vnto the infallibilite of Scriptures which teach it they acknowledge two distinct assents or but one If but one let them shew vs how possibly the Church can bee said to confirme the Scriptures if two let them assigne the seuerall properties of either whether is more strong whether must bee to the other as Peter to his brethren or if neither of them can confirme the other let them declare how the one can be imagined as a meane or condition of beleeuing the other 12 An Heretikes beleefe of the minor proposition in the former Syllogisme saith Bellarmine is but weake A Romanists beleefe of the same most strong Let this bee the Minor Peter feed my sheepe or Peter I haue prayed for thee that thy faith should not faile what reason can be imagined why a Romanists beleefe of these propositions should bee so strong and ours so weake The one hath the Churches authoritie to confirme his faith the other hath not What is it then to haue the Churches authoritie onely to know her decrees concerning those portions of Scriptures If this were all we know the Romish Churches decrees aswel as the Romanists but it is nothing to know them if we doe not acknowledge them To haue Churches authoritie then is to beleeue it as infallible and for this reason is a Romane Catholikes beleefe of any portion of Scripture more certaine and strong because hee hath the testimonie of the Church which he beleeues to be most infallible and beleeuing it most infallibly he must of necessitie beleeue that to be Scripture that in euery place to be the meaning of the Holy Ghost which this Church commends vnto him for such Let the most learned of our aduersaries here resolue the doubt proposed whether there bee two distinct assents in the beleefe of the forementioned propositions one vnto the truth of the proposition it selfe and another vnto the Churches infallibilitie It is euident by Bellarmines opinion that all the certaintie a Roman Catholique hath aboue a Sectarie is from the Churches infallibilite For the proposition it selfe he can beleeue no better then an Heretique may vnlesse hee better beleeue the Church i. he beleues the Churches exposition of it or the Churches infallibilitie concerning it better then the proposition it selfe in it selfe and for it selfe And so it is euident that the Churches authoritie is greater because it must be better beleeued 13 Suppose then one of our Church which beleeues these propositions to be the word of God should turne of Roman Catholique his former beleefe is by this meanes become more strong and certaine This granted the next question is what should be the obiect of this his strong beleefe the propositions beleeued Peter feed my sheepe I haue prayed for thee or any other part of Gods written word or the Churches authoritie not the propositions themselues but onely by accident in as much as the Church confirmes them to him For suppose the same man should estsoones either altogether reuolt from the Church or doubt of her authoritie his beleefe of the former propositions becomes hereby as weake as it was before which plainely cuinceth that his beleefe of the Church and this proposition were two distinct beleefes and that this strong beleefe was fastened vnto the Churches authoritie not vnto the proposition it selfe immediately but onely by accident in as much as the Church which he beleeueth so firmely did teach it for his beleefe if fastened vpon the proposition it selfe after doubt mooued of the Churches authoritie would haue continued the same but now by Bellarmines assertion assoone as hee begins to disclaime his beleefe of the Churches infallibilitie his former strong beleefe of the supposed proposition begins to faile and of this failing no other reason then alreadie is can be assigned The reason was because the true direct and proper obiect of his stronge beleefe was the Churches authoritie on which the beleefe of the proposition did intirely depend as the conclusion doth vpon the premisses or rather as euery particular doth on the vniuersall whereunto it is essentially subordinate CHAP. III. Containing a further Resolution of Romish faith necessarily inferring the authoritie of the Romish Church to bee of greater authoritie then Gods Word absolutely not only in respect of vs. IF we racke the former syllogisme a little farther and stretch it out in euerie ioynt to it full length wee may quickly make it confesse our proposed conclusion and somewhat more The Syllogisme was thus Whatsoeuer God hath spoken is most true But God hath spoken and caused to be written all those wordes contained in the Canon of Scriptures acknowledged by opposite religions of these times Therefore these wordes are most true The certaintie of the Minor depends as our aduersaries will haue it vpon the present Romish Churches infallibilitie which hath commended vnto vs these Bookes for Gods Word Bee it then granted for disputations sake that we cannot know any part of Gods Word much lesse the iust bounds extent or limits of all his words supposed to be reuealed for our good but by the Romish Church The Spirituall sence or true meaning of all most or many parts of these determinate Volumes and visible Characters as yet is vndeterminate and vncertaine whereas all points of beleefe must bee grounded on the determinate and certaine sence of
and nasus simus is al one so in their language is the Church and the Church of Rome This Church tels him he may not take vpon him to trie of what spirit the Pope is not examine his determinations decisions or interpretations of any Scripture by other known places of Scripture or the analogie of faith acknowledged by all Vnto this decree or sentence of the Church although hee haue it but at the second hand or after it haue passed through as many Priests and Iesuites mouthes as are Post Townes from London to Edenburgh hee yeeldes absolute obedience without acknowledgement of farther appeale either vnto Scriptures or other authoritie whatsoeuer further manifestation of Gods will hee expects none Let all the reformed Churches in the World or all the Christian World besides exhort threaten or adiure him as he tenders the good of his owne soule as hee will answere his Redeemer in that dreadfull day of finall iudgement to examine the Church or Popes decrees by Gods written Lawes his answere is he may not he cannot doe it without open disobedience to the Church which to disobey is damnation of soule and bodie But O fooles and slow of heart to beleeue and obey from the heart that doctrine whereunto yee were deliuered Know ye not that to whomsoeuer yee giue your selues as seruants to obey his seruants ye are to whom yee obey whether it bee the man of sinne vnto death or obedience vnto righteousnesse Ofall Mankinde are onely Roman Catholiques not bought with a price that they may thus alienate their soules from Christ and become seruants of men that they may consecrate themselues by solemne vow to the perpetuall slauerie of most wicked and sinfull men euen monsters of Mankind CHAP. IIII. That in obeying the Romish Churches decrees wee doe not obey Gods Word as well as them but them alone in contempt of Gods principall Lawes 1 BVt the simple I know are borne in hand by the more subtile ort of this generation That thus obeying sinfull men they obey Christ who hath enioyned them this obedience vnto such That thus beleeuing that sence of Scripture which the Church their mother tenders vnto them they doe not beleeue her better then Scriptures because these two beleefes are not opposite but subordinate that they preferre not her decrees before Christs written Lawes but her interpretation of them before all priuate expositions This is the onely Citie of refuge left them wherein prosecuted by the former arguments they can hope for anie succour but most of whose gates alreadie haue beene all shortly shall bee shut vpon them 2 That they neither beleeue nor obey Gods Word whilest they absolutely beleeue and obey the Church without appeale is euident in that this Church vsually bindes men not vnto positiue points of Religion gathered so much as from any pretended sence of Scripture expounded by it but to beleeue bare negatiues as that this or that place of Scripture either brought by their aduersaries or conceiued by such amongst themselues as desire the knowledge of truth and right information of conscience haue no such meaning as the Spirit of God not flesh and bloud as farre as they can iudge of their owne thoughts hath reuealed vnto them 3 But the Spirit may deceiue priuate men or at least they may deceiue themselues in their triall of Spirits They may indeed and so may men in publique place more grieuously erre in peremptorie iudging priuate men because obnoxious to errour in the generall erroneous in this particular wherein they ground their opinions vpon Gods Word plentifull to euince it at least very probable reasons they bring manie and strong whereunto no reasonable answere is brought by their aduersaries whose vsuall course is to presse them onely with the Churches authoritie which appeares to be of farre greater waight then Gods word vnto all such as yeeld obedience to her negatiue decrees without any euidence or probabilitie either of Scripture or naturall reason to set against that sence and meaning of Gods Lawes wherevnto strength of arguments vnrefuted and probable pledges of Gods Spirit vndisproued haue long tied their soules Doe wee obey God or beleeue his word whilest we yeeld obedience to the Church in such Commandements as to our consciences vpon vnpartiall examination seeme condemned ere made by the very fundamentall Lawes of Religion and all this oftimes without any shew or pretence of Scripture to warrant vs that we doe not disobey God in obeying them 4 But doth the Romish exact absolute obedience in such pointes as if it were possible they could bee false may endanger the very foundation of true Religion without euident demonstration that their daily practise neither doth nor can endanger it Yes For what can more concerne the maine foundation which Christians Iewes and Mahumetans most firmely hold then those precepts in number many all plainely and peremptorily forbiding vs to worship any Gods but One or any thing in the Heauen or Earth but him onely The Romanists themselues grant that cultu latriae God alone is to bee adored that so to adore any other is Idolatrie and Idolatrie by their confession a most grieuous sinne O how much better were it for them to hold it none or Gods Word forbidding it of no authoritie then so lightly to aduenture the hourely practise of it in contempt of such fearefull threatnings as they themselues out of Gods Lawes pronounce against it vpon such broken disioincted surmises as are the best they can pretend for their warrant 5 To beleeue Christs flesh and bloud should bee there present where it cannot be seene or felt yea where we see and feele another bodie as perfectly as wee can doe ought is to reason without warrant of Scripture but a sencelesse blinde beleefe But grant his bodie and bloud were in the Sacrament rightly administred yet that out of the Sacrament either should bee in the consecrated host whilest carried from Towne to Towne for solemne shew more then for Sacramentall vse is to reason ruled by Scripture to say no worse more improbable Now to worship that as God which to our vnerring sences is a Creature vpon such blind supposals that Christs bodie by one miracle may be there by another vnseene is worse then Idolatrie committed vpon delusion of sence So to adore a wayfer onely a wayfer in all appearance without strict examination nay without infallible euidence of Scriptures vrged for the reall presence is more abhominable then to worship euerie appearance of an Angell of light without triall what spirit it were Sathan or some other that so appeared And if we consider the olde Serpents vsuall slight to insinuate himselfe into euery place wherein inveterate custome or corrupt affection may suggest some likelihood of a diuine presence vnto dreaming fancies as he did delude the old World in Oracles and Idols the probabilitie is farre greater his inuisible substance by nature not incompatible with any corporeall quantitie should be annexed to the
women and the chiefe men of the Citie and raised persecution against Paul and Barnabas and expelled them out of their Co●sts 7 Thus it is as true of graces as natures ordination 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the power efficacy of Christs chiefe Apostles is restrained vnto their proper and limited Sphere God alwayes blessing those endeuours best that are imployed within the precincts of that peculiar charge whereto hee apoints vs. By that which hath beene said it may appeare that Saint Peters and Saint Paules prerogatiues how great soeuer were both personall to expire with themselues although a title of supremacie ouer the Gentiles might be pretended with much greater probabilitie from S. Paul then from S. Peter whose peculiar charge was the Iew as may be yet further manifested by the place most vrged for his his Successors oecumenicall iurisdiction bequeathed as the Romanists suppose in these words Peter feed my lābes Peter feed my sheep c. 8 But the naturall circumstances of that place compared with the late exposition of the former deads all their blowes thence intended against vs ere they can rightly frame themselues to fetch them A little before these wordes were vttered desirous to approoue his excessiue loue to our Sauiour and manifest more then an ordinrie desire of his companie that had appeared vnknowne vnto him but from Iohns notification girt his coat about him and cast himselfe into the Sea whiles the other Disciples not aboue two hundred Cubits from Land came by ship to meet him After a short dinner passed as the text seemes to insinuate in silence at least not entertained with such varietie of discourse as might either interrupt some priuate intimation made to Peter of future conference or put the former occasion of this following exhortation out of the other Apostles memorie our Sauiour enioynes Simon the sonne of Iona to feed his Lambes againe and againe to feed his Sheep He see him then like a louing Souldier desirous by his aduenturous approach vnto him to recouer his formerr reputation much impaired by denying him Whether our Sauiour checke or cherish this desires I question not much lesse determine His speeches with the former circumstances import thus much Thou hast made profession of more then ordinarie loue vnto mee of readinesse to lay downe thy life for my sake though all others euen these thy fellowes should forsake me willing I see thee by thy present hazard of it to make thy former wordes good But wouldest thou haue mee yet to shewe thee a more excellent way I haue tolde thee it long since thou art conuerted strengthen thy Brethren SIMON the Sonne of IONA if thou desire to prooue thy selfe a CEPHAS or testifie the sincerittie of thy faith and loue which by the powers of darkenesse were of late so grieuously shaken feed my Lambes feed my sheepe yea seeing thou thrice deniedst the Shepheard of thy soule I say vnto thee the third time feede my sheepe Let the memorie of thy forepassed threefolde sinne also let this same my present threefolde admonition excite thee vnto triple diligence in thy charge to shew such pittie and compassion as I haue shewed to thee vnto that lost and scattered Flocke which haue denyed mee or consented to my crucifying Let thy faithfull performance of what I request thee at my farewell bee the first testimonie of thy loue to mee to be lastly testified by the losse of thy life which thou didst promise mee when I gaue mine for my sheep but shalt not pay vntill thou hast fulfilled this my request Verily verily I say vnto thee when thou wast yong thou girdest thy selfe and walkedst whither thou would but when thou shalt be old thou shalt stretch forth thine hands and another shall gird thee and leade thee whither thou woulddest not 9 But here Bellarmine alwayes exceeding wittie either to elude Scriptures whose naturall meaning is euidently against him or to collect a gulling sence from such as nothing at all make for him would inferre that the possessiue My necessarily referres Peters charge or iurisdiction vnto all the flocke that called Christ their Lord owner For seeing after his resurrection there was but one Fold for this great Shepheard to say My sheepe could not distinguish one sort from another and therefore none to be exempted from Peters ouersight But the Flocke though one in respect of the owner which had purchased all with one price did consist of sheep much different in breeding and retaining their seuerall markes some were of the circumcision others of the vncircumcision the former had beene our Sauiours peculiar charge in his life time for he was not sent but vnto the lost-sheep of Israel these he might with note of distinction call My sheepe As if a Shepheard raised to better fortunes should purchase a great many more sheep then hee was wont to looke to himselfe and referre both sorts to seuerall keepers though both to Fold together in the euening he might Signanter say to the one looke well to my sheep though both Flockes were his by right of possession but onely the one his by a peculiar relation of former charge or ouer sight And thus as we haue said before the Iewes were committed peculiarly to Saint Peters care Albeit consonantly to the former exposition of both places alleadged our Sauiour by My sheepe might onely intimate his tender care ouer his flocke without distinction that Peter might more carefully feed as many as he could personally looke to seeing the proofe of his loue to his Lord and Master and of his fidelitie which had failed did consist herein As for Bellarmines other collections that our Sauiour by mentioning his sheep should meane Prelates or Superiours by his little sheep so their vulgar distinguisheth inferiour pastors by his lambes mere Layickes such as haue Fathers but no children in Christ they onely proue that in this light of the Gospell there is a generation of men professing Christianitie yet as apt as grossely to transforme Christs Spirituall loue as the Heathen did his fathers glorie into the similitude of their carnall corrupt affections 10 If it may stand with Christian sobrietie so precisely to determine of particular differences implied in these words it is most likely our Sauiour meant to include all sorts of people according to the different care their diuers estates required some were to be tenderly handled and cherished like lambes others to be lookt vnto like elder sheep and to be fed with stronger meate but with lesse personall or assiduous attendance There is no one kind of argument perswades me more the Romish Church is led by the Spirit of errour then whiles I obserue how they still approoue themselues to be Peters successors in denying Christ and going the wrong way vnto the truth of the Gospell alwayes like vngracious children seeking to enter vpon the inheritance bequeathed without performance of what the Testator principally required Our Sauiour requested Peter in
sits as God in the Temple of God shewing himselfe that he is God For the Hebrew 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 equiualent to the Syriacke 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in that sence they take it as affording such impregnable supportance or fortification against the powers of hell world or flesh is oftener by their owne vulgar latine rendred Deus then Petra or Rupes which it directly signifies because considered with these circumstances or effects it is rather a glorious title of the god-head or deity it selfe then a particular attribute taken from some diuine propriety communicable to Gods seruants in the abstract 23. Lastly vnto mee their common exposition of Christs speeches vnto Saint Peter suggest this argument more then demoustratiue that the Papacy is led by the spirite of great Antichrist in that no doctrine of Diuels can more directly contradict or more shamefully deny the vertue and power of Christ come in the flesh nor more peremptorily disanull or cancell his promise there made vnto his Church then Iesuiticall comments vpon it doe Christs promise was a promise of life and sauing health a full assurance of eternall happinesse to all that should bee truely built vpon that Rocke which Peter confessed or which they say Peter was They make the tenure of this glorious couenant to be no more but this that Peters successors and such as will builde their faith vpon them speaking ex Cathedra as vpon Rockes inuincible shall be indefectible in points of Christian faith and manners howsoeuer euen these Rockes themselues may be for life and conuersation as wicked as Annas or Caiphas or other blinded guides of the Iewish Sinagogue that crucified our Saniour 24 Thus by a pretended successiue perpetuity of Peters faith they vtterly abolish that liuely faith whereby he confessed Christ which is alway included as a necessary condition without which none be capable of that glorious promise but with it all are made immediate heirs of saluation Or to speake more plainly none may expect the least portiō of Peters blessing without Peters faith nor can that be in any but such as are borne of God Euery one saieth Saint IOHN that is borne of God ouer commeth the world and this is the victory that ouer commeth the world euen our faith And again who is he that ouer commeth the world but hee which belieueth what Peter had confessed that Iesus is the sonne of God And our Sauiour himselfe to whom his father had giuen power ouer all flesh that hee should giue eternall life to all giuen him by his father tels vs that this life eternall must grow from that root of faith which first did branch in Peters mouth but must be so planted as it grew in him in euery hart endued with sure hope much more in al such as lay challenge to such preheminency or prerogatiue of faith or hope as Peter had This is life eternall that they may know thee sayeth Christ speaking of his Father to bee the onely very God whom thou hast sent Iesus Christ so then God manifested in the flesh was the Rocke of saluation whereupon the Church is built he that rightly knowes and so belieues this truth hath life eternal dwelling in him 25 But shall such a faith as may be seuerd from charity shall such a knowledge of Christ as may bee in them to whom Christ shall say Depart from mee I neuer knew you I say not make any so impregnable a Rocke but so fasten any to that Rocke so impregnable as the gates of hell shall not bee able to dispossesse him of eternall life Whiles wee produce the late cited or other testimonies alike pregnant to condemne the Pontificians for denying Iustification onely by faith they thinke themselues fully acquitted with this solution that our assurance of saluation relies not vpon faith as alone but as it is the foundation of charity and accompanied with other christian vertues We neuer taught as shall be shewed in that controuersie that faith vnlesse thus attended could with true confidence plead cur cause before God which yet though thus at tended it onely pleades But here our aduersaries must be contented to take their payment in their own coine For if no man can bee iustified or made heyre of saluation it is vnpossible any should bee a liuely stone or liuing member much lesse a supreame head or sure foundation of that spirituall house alwaies victorious ouer death and hell without a faith so appointed as in the former case they require without a faith as clearely testifying Christ dwelling in men by workes flowing from it as their edification vpon him by an Orthodoxal forme of words Whosoeuer is destitute of a faith thus bearing fruit vnto saluation is so farre from being a Rocke or sure foundation for others to build vpon that hee himselfe if we may belieue our Sauiour buildes all h●s hopes vpon the sand Whosoeuer heareth these my words and doth them not shall bee likened vnto a foolish man which hath builded his house vpon the sand the rain fell and the stoudes came and the winds blew and beat vpon that house and it fell and the fall thereof was great Not euery one therefore that saieth vnto our Sauiour as Peter did thou art the Christ the sonne of the liuing God but he that expresseth his faith and hope by works answerable to Christs conuersation in the flesh and his fathers will shall enter into the kingdome of heauen because hee onely is built vpon that Rocke which the floud-gates of hell cannot vndermine or ouerthrow For whosoeuer sayeth our Sauiour heareth of mee these words and doeth the same I will liken him to a wise man which builded his house on a rocke And the raine fell and the floudes came and the winds blew and beat vpon that house and it fell not for it was grounded vpon a Rocke 26 Let the Iesuite either produce any heresie broached since our Sauiours Incarnation or frame a conceite of any but Logically possible before his comming vnto iudgement which in outward profession not disclaiming the former maine foundation of christianity God manifested in the flesh can indeed and issue more euidently ouerthrow it more distinctly contradict either those fundamentall precepts of saluation last cited or more fully euacuate the often mentioned promise made vnto Saint Peter then the foundation of Romish religion as Romish doth and I will doe publike pennance in sacke-cloth and ashes for laying the imputation of Antichristianisme vpon it Our Sauiour saith whosoeuer heareth these words and doth them not doth build his house vpon the sand They teach the contradictory as an Article of faith that the Pope or a councel of Bishops assembled by his appointment instructed by his infallability confirmed by his plenary power doe alwaies build vpon the same Rocke as Peter did yea that the Pope himselfe how wicked soeuer is that very Rocke whereupon the Church that is in their language the Bishoppes thus
if they would haue bound the Almighty to haue followed most voices in bestowing victory perswade the King to goe vp against Ramath Gilead But my former assertion is fully ratified by Michaiahs reply to the others demand When went the c. Thou shalt see saith hee in that day when thou shalt goe from chamber to chamber to hide thee No question but such as were neuters before after they see his prophesie fulfilled in Ahabs ouerthrow did take Michaiah for a Prophet as true as Zedkiah was false 3 In like manner when Ieremy a poore Prophet and Priest of Anathoth had come vnto Ierusalem among the Prelates and prophesied the truth but truth offensiue to the State That all the euils which God had pronounced should be brought vpon that City and her townes Pashu● the sonne of Immer the Priest which was appointed gouernour in the house of the Lord intreats him worse then Zidkiah had done Michaiah Hee could haue flouted him with as good applause of his complices as the Inquisitors can a Protestant now You that can read State fortunes a farre off can you tell where you shall lodge your selfe this next night if you cannot take him for a better Prophet that can And by Pashurs Prophesie hee was to take vp his lodging in his way home in the Stockes that were in the high gate of Ben●amin neare vnto the house of the Lord. whose desolation hee had threatned The like entertainement hee found againe at the whole multitudes hands but by the Priests and Prophets instigation Now when Ieremiah had made an end of speaking all that the Lord had commanded him to speake vnto all the people then the Priests and the Prophets and all the people tooke him and said Thou shalt die the death Why hast thou prophesied in the name of the Lord saying This house shall bee like Shiloh and this City shall bee desolate without an inhabitant As if the Church of God could possibly erre or the gates of hell preuaile against the splendor of it would the Romish Clergie adde should the Lord send a Prophet with such tidings vnto Rome And did they not learne this interpretation of Christs promise vnto his Church from the hypocriticall Iewes their predecessors which made the like comment in Ieremiahs time vpon Gods wordes as pregnant for the high-Priests succession as Saint Peters Come aud let vs imagine some deuise against Ieremiah for the Law shall not perish from the Priest nor counsell from the wise nor the word from the Prophet come and let vs smite him with the tongue and let vs not giue heed to any of his words Away with the heretique The manifestation of like affection in the Prelates towards Gods Prophets did embolden Shemaiah the Nehelemite to write from Babylon vnto Zephaniah the high Priest and his associates to this effect The Lord hath mad thee Priest for Iehoiada the Priest that yee should bee officers in the house of the Lord for euery man that raueth and maketh himself a Prophet to put him in prison and in the stocks Now therfore why hast not thou reproued Ieremiah of Anathoth which prophesied vnto you This captiuity is long built houses to dwell in and plant gardens and eate the fruites of them 4 But when Pashur found the Omen of that name which Ieremiah gaue him when hee and his mates proued indeed Magors Missabibs a terror to themselues and all about them when they saw with their eyes all the miseries there expressed then was Ieremiah held for a true Prophet especially by such as outliued the captiuity to see the truth of his prophesie for thier good as exactly fulfilled as this had heen for their harme whilest according to his prediction Shemaiah and his seed were rooted out from amongst Gods people happily replanted in their natiue soile For from the reasons set downe before posterity did alwayes better iudge of prophesies then the age wherein their Authors liued at the least the younger and meaner sort of that age which out-liued the euent vsually better digested their doctrine then the ancient or men of dignity that enuied them credite amongst the people yet were not such as lesse maligned them greater belieuers vniuersally as was said before but onely of some few particulars For if a new Prophet should haue risen amongst thē hee was almost as euill entreated by the present Clergy or others whose humors he contradicted This is euident by the Scribes and Pharises and the chiefe Rulers of the Iewish Church in our Sauiours time They builded the tombs of the Prophets garnished the sepulchres of the righteous and said as they verily thought If wee had been in the dayes of our fathers we would not haue beene partakers with them in the bloud of the Prophets yet made they the people of their owne time so mad as to be partakers with thē in the bloud of that great Prophet their long desired Messiah the onely Sauiour of the world Throughout the whole Story almost of the old Testament the truth proposed may appeare that the visible Church if it be taken in such a sence as the Romanists take it was the most corrupt Iudge either of the truth or true meaning of Gods word that the people seduced by their goodly shewes and glorious titles of Moses successors were still brought into the combination of bloud vntill they brought vpon themselues their posterity and the holy City All the righteous bloud that was shed vpon the earth from the bloud of Abel the righteous vntil the bloud of their Messiah 5 But though their cruelty and hypocrisie be so notoriously knowne as it euen seemes to point out the like in the moderne Romanist yet some honestly minded will perhaps demand how the people of those ages wherein the Prophets liued could possibly know the truth of their Prophesies seeing for the most part they saw a maior part of men in Ecclesiastique authority bent against them This happily may tempt vnsētled minds to thinke the Lord had determined his Prophets should haue Cassandraes fates neuer to bee belieued till remedy were past The peoples mist●king of their predictions was in a sort fatall yet not necessary but vpon supposition of former neglect God sent them Prophets for their good but their wickednesse turned his blessings into cursings their hypocrisie and folly made them so blind that they could not discerne the signes of the times vntill wofull experience the fooles onely Schoolemaster began to teach it them when their time for lore was ended A prudent man saith the wise-man seeth the plague and hideth himselfe but the foolish go on still and are punished But wherein doth that prudence consist which might haue preuented this plague surely in reading Gods law and continuall meditation thereon for this giues wisdom to the simple Men in this case should haue asked counsell of their own heart for there is no man more faithfull vnto thee then it for a
Saint Peters loue to truth that hee would haue so fastned it to all faithfull hearts as none should euer haue failed to follow it in following which hee could not erre Doubtlesse had any such conceit lodged in his breast this discourse had drawne it out his vsuall form of exhortation had been too mild his ordinarie stile too low This doctrine had beene proclaimed to all the world with Anathemaes as loud and terrible as the Canons of any Papisticall Councell report 2 But hee followed no such deceitfull fables when hee opened vnto them the power and comming of Christ whose Maiesty as hee had seene with his owne eyes so would hee haue others to see him too But by what light By Scriptures What Scriptures Peter feede my sheepe Nay but by the light of Prophesie That is a light indeed in it selfe but vnto priuate spirites it is no better saith Valentian then a light put vnder a bushel vnlesse the visible Church doe hold it out Where did the visible Church keep residence in those dayes In Saint Peter I trow How chances it then hee saith not fixe your eyes on mine that haue seene the glory of the Lord and the Prophets light shall shine vnto you If by his commendation and proposall it were to shine hee had said better thus Ye do well in that you giue heede vnto me as to your onely infallible teacher that must confirme you in the truth of Propheticall Writings and cause them shine in your hearts but now he saith Yee doe well in that yee take heede vnto the Prophets as vnto a light that shineth in a darke place vntill the day-starre arise in your hearts This light of Prophets illuminated the eyes of Peters faith albeit with his bodily eyes hee had seene Christs glory For speaking comparatiuely of that testimony which he had heard in the Mount hee addes Wee haue also asurer word of the Prophets That the Lord had beene glorified in the Mount his Auditors were to take vpon his credite and authority nor could hee make them to see this particular as hee himselfe had done but that Christ Iesus whom he saw glorified in the Mount was the Lord of Glory he had 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a surer testimony then his bodily sense the light of Prophets This then was the commendations of his flocke that they looked vpon it which shined as well vnto them as him to all without respect of persons that take heed vnto it able to bring them not to acknowledge Peters infallibility but to the day-starre it selfe whose light would further ascertaine them euen of the truth the Prophets and the Apostles taught For Christ is in a peculiar manner the first and the last in the edifice of faith the lowest the highest stone in the corner refused by the master builders or visible pillars of the Iewish Church their faith was not grounded vpon the Prophets whose words they knew not and not knowing them they knew not him but vnto such as rayse their faith by this 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the true square and line Christ is both the fundamentall Rocke which supporteth and the chiefe corner stone that bindes the whole house of God and preserues it from clifts and ruptures 3. But least his followers might looke amisse vpon this prophetical light rightly esteemed in the general Saint Peter thought it necessarie to advertise them not to content themselues with euerie interpretation or accustomarie acknowledgement of their truth grounded on others relations reports or skill in expounding them or multitude of voyces that way swaying This had beene as if a man that hath eyes of his owne should belieue there was a Moone or starres because a great many of his honest neighbours had tolde him so A thousand witnesses in such a case as this were but priuate testimonies in respect of that distinct knowledge which euery one may haue that list That the Lord should preserue light in Goshen when darkenesse had couered the whole face of Egypt besides seems vnto me lesse strange but more sensibly true then before whilest I consider how in this age wherein the light of his countenance hath so clearely shined throughout those parts of Europe whence the Gospell came to vs Ingolstade should still sit in darknesse enuironed with the shadow of death That her great professor Valentian borne I take it within these fourescore yeeres should grope at noone day as if he had been brought forth in the very midnight of Popery or died well nigh three hundred yeeres ago Scarse Scotus himselfe not Ockam questionlesse though shut vp in a prison where no light of any expositor had euer come could haue made a more dunsticall collection of the Apostles wordes then he hath done Saint Peter meant one of these Three First that there can bee no certaine or probable way of expounding Scriptures by our proper wit or industry or Secondly that one or other place of Scripture cannot be rightly expounded by humane wit or industry but so compared they rightly may or Thirdly that the Scriptures cannot certainely and infallibly be expounded euery where without the sentence of some other common infallible authority which in this respect is to be held as iudge of faith in the Church The Apostle hee inferres did not meane the first or second ergò the third So as the force and wisdome of the Apostolicall admonition is this No man by his priuate industry or study howsoeuer imployed eyther hee thougt not of the holy Ghosts direction or assistance or did not except it no not by any search of Scripture it selfe can certainely and infallibly vnderstand the doctrine of Scriptures in controuersies of which Saint Peter in that place speakes not one word but it is necessary he learne this of some other publike authority in the church by which the Holy Ghost speakes publikely and teacheth all His reason followes more duncticall then the collection it selfe For the Apostle straight subions As the holy men of God did speake in Scriptures not by humane authority but diuine so likewise cannot the Scriptures bee possibly vnderstood by any humane or priuate industry of this or that man but by some other authority likewise diuine by which the holy spirite which is the Author of Scriptures may be likewise the most certain interpreter of Scriptures 4 Had another read thus much vnto me and bid me read the Author or his workes wherein it was found I should presently haue named eyther Erasmus Moriae Encomium Frishlins Priscianus Vapulans or some such like Comedian disposed in meriment to pen some olde Dunces part Cannot the Sun of righteousnesse infuse his heauenly influence by the immediate operation of his spirit or doth his influence want force without coniunction with this blasing Comet or falling starre Was it not the authority of this spirit which made Saint Peter himselfe to be so authentique in his doctrine Is it not the pretended priuiledge of the same
it without questioning whether the places alleadged bee to the purpose or no. Let such Christians as belieue the Pope cannot erre in the name of God belieue what soeuer he shall teach without examination yet remember withall that thus to belieue is to worship the dragon by giuing their names vnto the Beast But vnto what Christians is the Popes infallibility better known then S. Paules was to the Beroeans Not vnto vs whose fathers haue forsaken him for his Apostasie from God taught vs to eschew him as Antichrist to hold his doctrine as the very doctrine of diuels Vnto vs at least his Holines should seeke to manifest his infallibility by such means as S. Paul did his euen vnto such as had seen his miracles and had experience of his power in expounding scriptures Besides Pauls conuersatiō in al places was continually such as did witnes him to be a chosen vessell full of the spirit of grace He did not make marchandise of the word of God as most Popes doe but as of sincerity but as of God in the sight of God so he spake thorow Christ he did not walk in craftines yet who greater polititians then Popes Nor did he handle the word of God deceitfully but in declaration of the truth he did approue himself to euery mans conscience in the sight of God This one amongst others he acounts as an especiall motiue to perswade men of his heauenly calling in that he did not preach himselfe but Christ Iesus and himselfe their seruant for Iesus sake For so our Sauiour had said He that speaketh of himselfe seeketh his owne glory The Pope that we might know him to be Christs opposite seekes almost nothing else nothing so much as to be absolute Lord ouer all other mens faith If this any Iesuite will deny let him define what Prince amongst the nations what Tyrant in the world did euer challenge greater soueraignty in affaires of this life then the Pope doth in all matters whatsoeuer concerning the life to come 3 But it may be Bellarmine was either afraid or ashamed of this answere wherefore he addes another as wise to keepe it from blushing I adde saith he albeit an Heretike sin in doubting of the Churches authority into which he hath beene regenerate by Baptisme nor is the case the same in an Heretike which hath once made profession of faith and in a Iew or Ethnique which neuer was Christian yet this doubt which is a sin being supposed he doth not amisse in searching and examining whether the places alleadged by the Trent Councell out of scriptures or fathers be true or pertinēt so he do this with an intent to finde the truth not to calumniate A man at the first sight wold deem Bellarmine for his own part at least had giuen vs leaue to examine the Popes doctrine by scripture but that as you heard before hee absolutely denies nor will he I am sure pawne his hat that hee which searcheth the Scriptures and Fathers alleadged cannot find any such meaning in eyther as the Trent Councell would thence infer shal be freed by their Church from heresie although he be not so vnciuill as to calumniate the Pope but onely saluâ reuerentiâ ingenuously professe that he thinks on his conscience the scripture meant no such matter as the Councell intended This none of their church dare promise for dubius infide by their doctrine est haereticus he that doubts after such an authentique determination is condēned for an heretike and yet without such assurance of beeing freed from heresie this permission of reading scriptures is not worth God a mercy seeing he must at length be constrained to belieue the scripture saith iust so as the Pope saith albeit his priuat conscience inform him to the contrary so that by reading them he must either wound his own conscience more then if the vse of thē had bin denied him or els vse thē but as a court fauor or grace bestowed vpō him by the Pope for which he must in good maners yeeld his full assent to his doctrine with infinit thanks for his bounty Howsoeuer if he be doubtful in their tenents he may not reade the Scriptures with Caluin Beza or any of our writers expositions or in any edition saue such as they approue or with the Rhemish animaduersions or gloses or according to the analogy of that faith wherein the Iesuites haue catechized him So that the reading of scriptures if their opinions be erroneous as wee hold the Popes decisions are serues to as good purpose for confirming one of their catechizing in the right faith as the ringing of belles doth to bring a melancholy man out of some foolish conceit which runnes in his mind both of them will belieue their former imaginations though neuer so bad the better because the one thinkes the belles ring the other that the scriptures speake iust so as hee imagines This Bellarmine cannot dissemble in his next words Bound hee is to receiue the Churches doctrine without examination but better hee were prepared vnto the truth by examining then by neglecting it to persist still in his blindnesse His meaning in plain English is this He and his fellowes could wish reformed Churches would all come off at once and belieue as Romanists doe without all examination whether they belieue as Christians or Magicians but if we will not be so forward as they could wish wee were they could in the second place be very wel content to admit vs into their Church again though after a yeere or twoes deliberation rather then loose our company for euer 4 The learned Doctor Whitakers of famous memory out of the former place gathered these two corollaries Euery doctrine is to bee tried by Scripture The Apostle taught nothing but what might haue beene confirmed out of Moses and the Prophets Sacroboscus reply to these Orthodoxall collections confirmes me in that conceit I entertained of Romish Schoolemen when I first began to reade them They seemed to me then much more now to handle matters of greatest moment in diuinity after the same fashion for all the world nimble Artists doe Philosophicall Theorems in the Schooles whiles they are coursed by such as would triumph in their disgrace Bee the argument brought in it selfe neuer so good or forcible to euince the contradictory to their tenents yet if the opponent in his inference of what was last denied chance but to omit some petty terme or clause impertinent to the maine question or make his propositions more improbable by framing them more vniuersall then he needs occasion will quickly be taken to interrupt his progresse and put him off especially if the Answerer bee so well prouided with some shew of instance to the contrary or absurditie likely to follow if all were true his Antagonist would seeme to prooue Nor doe I censure this as fault in youth or whilest we are in Aristotles forge so the fire be out of vs when wee come into
the sanctuary But iust in this manner doth the Mimicall Iesuite reply to the former truth I demaund saith he whether the Doctour would approue this consequence Paul preaching to the Athenians confirmed his Doctrine with the testimonie of the Poet Aratus and the Athenians had done well if they had sought whether Aratus had said so or no therefore all Doctrines must be iudged by Poets But what if the Beraeans practise considered alone or as Iesuites doe Scriptures onely Mathematically doe not necessarily inferre thus much The Learned Doctors charitable minde would not suffer him to suspect any publique professor of Diuinitie as Sacroboscus was could bee so ignorant in Scriptures as not to consider besides the different esteeme of Prophets and Poets amongst the Iewes what Saint Paul had else where expressely said I obtained helpe of God and continue vnto this day witnessing both vnto small and great saying none other things then those which the Prophets and Moses did say should come Vnlesse he could haue proued Christs resurrection other articles of Christian faith out of Moses and the Prophets the Iewes exceptions against him had beene iust For they were bound to resist al Doctrines dissonant to their ancient ordinances especially the abolishment of Rites and Ceremonies which Paul laboured most as knowing the Lawgiuer meant they should continue no longer then to the alteration of the Priesthood but in whose maintenance his adversaries should haue spent their bloud whiles ignorant they were without default of the Truth Paul taught as not sufficiently prooued from the same authority by which their lawes were established Nor was any Apostle either for his miracles or other pledges of the Spirit that hee could communicate vnto others to bee so absolutely beleeued in all things during his life time as Moses and the Prophets writings For seeing the gift of miracles was bestowed on hypocrites or such as might fall from any gifts or grace of the spirit they had though the spectators might beleeue the particular conclusions to whose confirmation the miracles were fitted yet was it not safe without examination absolutely to rely vpon him in all thinges that had spoken a diuine truth once or twice In that he might be an hypocrite or a dissembler for ought others without euidence of his vpright conuersation and perpetuall consonance to his former Doctrine could know he might abuse his purchased reputation to abet some dangerous errour Nor doe our aduersaries though too too credulous in this kinde thinke themselues bound to beleeue reuelations made to another much lesse to thinke that he which is once partaker of the Spirit should for euer bee infallible Vpon these supporters the forementioned Doctours reason which the Iesuite abuseth to establish the Churches authoritie stands firme and sound I absolutely belieue all to be true that God saith because hee saith it nor doe I seeke any other reason but I dare not ascribe so much vnto man least I make him equall to God for God alone and hee in whom the Godhead dwelleth bodily is immutably iust and holy Many others haue continued holy and righteous according to their measure vntill the end but who could be certaine of this besides themselues no not they themselues alwayes And albeit a man that neuer was in the state of grace may oft times deliuer that Doctrine which is infallible yet were it to say no worse a grieuous tempting of God to rely vpon his Doctrine as absolutely infallible vnlesse we know him besides his skill or learning to be alwayes in such a state Though both his life and death bee most religious his Doctrine must approue it selfe to the present age and Gods prouidence must cōmend it to posterity Nor did our Sauiour though in life immutably holy for doctrine most infallible assume so much vnto himselfe before his ascension as the Iesuits giue to the Pope For he submitted his doctrine to Moses the Prophets writings And seeing the Iesuits make lesse acount of Him then the Iewes did of Moses it is no maruell if they be more violently miscaried with enuious or contemptuous hatred of the Diuine truth it selfe then the Iewes were against our Sauiour or his doctrine These euen whē they could not answere his reasons drawn from scriptures receiued though most offēsiue to their distemperate humor were ashamed to cal Moses the prophets authority in questiō or to demand him how do ye know God spake by thē Must not the Churches infallibility herein assure you and if it teach you to discerne Gods word from mans must it not likewise teach you to distinguish the diuine sense of it from humā This is a straine of Atheisme which could neuer finde harbor in any professing the knowledge of the true God before the brood of Antichrist grew so flush as to seeke the recouery of that battaile against Gods Saints on Earth which Lucifer their Father and his followers lost against Michael and his holy Angels in Heauen CHAP. XV. A briefe taste of our aduersaries blasphemous and Atheisticall assertions in this argument from some instances of two of their greatest Doctours Bellarmine and Valentian That if faith cannot be perfect without the solemne testification of that Church the raritie of such testifications will cause infidelitie 1 FOR a further competent testimonie of blasphemies in this kinde wherewith wee charge the Church of Rome let the Reader iudge by these two instances following whether the Christian world haue not sucked the deadliest poyson that could euaporate from the infernall lake through Bellarmines and Valentians pennes Valentian as if he meant to outflout the Apostle for prohibiting all besides the great pastor Christ Iesus for being Lords ouer mens faith will haue an infallible authoritie which may sit as Iudge and mistresse of all controuersies of faith and this to be not the authoritie of one or two men deceased not peculiar to such as in times past haue vttered the diuine truth either by mouth or pen and commended it vnto posteritie but an authoritie continuing in force and strength amongst the faithfull throughout all ages able perspicuously and openly to giue sentence in all controuersies of faith Yet as these Embassadors of God deceased cannot bee Iudges shall they therefore haue no saye at all in deciding controuersies of faith You may not thinke a Iesuite would take Iesus name in vaine he will neuer for shame exclude his Master for hauing at least a finger in the gouernment of the Church Why what is his office or what is the vse of his authoritie registred by his Apostles and Euangelists Not so little as you would weene For his speeches amōgst others that in their life time haue infallibly taught diuine truthes by mouth or pen may be consulted as a witnesse or written law in cases of faith but after a certaine sort and manner eyther to speake the truth or somewhat thereto not impertinent as shal bee declared in due place The place he
meanes is where hee disputes whether the Pope be bound to consult other authoritie besides his owne or vse any meanes to search the truth before hee passe sentence ex cathedra that is before he charge the whole Christian World to beleeue his decision This he thinkes expedient but so farre forth onely as if it please his Holinesse to enioyne the beleefe of some particular point vpon the whole World all must beleeue that he hath consulted Scripture and antiquitie as farre as was requisite for that point as you shall after heare 2 That in such controuersies he includes the meanes of knowing Scriptures to bee the word of God is euident out of his owne words in the forecited place For the knowledge of Scriptures he would haue to be an especiall point of faith yet such as cannot be proued by Scripture but by this liuing and speaking authoritie as he expressely contends in the eleuenth paragraph of the same question His conclusion is If it bee necessarie there should be some authoritie though humane yet by diuine assistance infallible to sit as mistresse and Iudge in all controuersies of faith and not to be appropriated to any deceased as is alreadie proued it remaines that it be alwaies liuing in the Church alwayes present amongst the faithfull by succession hee meanes of Popes Thus you see the present Pope must be Iudge and Christ his Apostles must be brought in as witnesses And yet whether there were such a Christ as Saint Mathew Luke Marke and Iohn tell vs there was or whether the Gospels which goe vnder their names be Apocryphall and that of Bartholmewes onely Canonicall we cannot know but by the Popes testimonie so that in the end he is the onely Iudge and onely witnesse both of Christ the Apostles and their writings yea of all diuine truthes at least assisted with his Bishops and Cardinals Which Bellarmine though otherwise a great deale more wary then Valentian hath plainly vttered Vnlesse saith he it were for the authoritie of the present Church of Rome he meanes the Trent Councell the whole Christian faith might be called in question so might all the acts and decrees of former Councels his reason was because wee cannot know these antiquities but onely by tradition and historicall relation which are not able to produce diuine firme infallible faith 3 Thus whilest this great Clerke would digge a pit for the blinde for he could not hope I thinke this blocke should stumble any that hath eyes in his head he is fallen into the middest of it himselfe by seeking to vndermine vs he hath smothered himselfe and buried the cause he was to maintaine For if without the Trent Councels testification wee cannot by diuine faith beleeue the Scriptures or former Councels to bee of diuine authoritie How can such as were borne within these thirty yeares beleeue that Councell it selfe which ended aboue fortie yeares agoe Few this day liuing were auditors of the Cardinals and Bishops decisions there assembled not hearing them their faith must needs be grounded vpon heare sayes Againe if it bee true the Scriptures cannot be knowne to be diuine but by the authoritie of the present visible Church if this Church doe not viua voce confirme all Christians in this fundamentall truth their faith can not be diuine but humane VVhat the Pope or his Cardinals thinke of these pointes is more then any liuing knowes vnlesse they heare them speake and then it may be a great question whether they speake as they thinke Pope Alexander the sixts decisions should haue beene negatiue like the fooles boult in the Psalme There is no God No Christ No Gospell for so his meaning might haue beene interpreted as they say dreames are by contraries seeing hee neuer spake as hee thought Lastly if the Trent Councel were so necessary for the confirmation of Scriptures and other Orthodoxall writings how detestable was your Cleargies backwardnesse to affoord the Christian World this spirituall cōfort For whether feare it were the Popes authoritie should bee curbed or meere slouth and neglect of matters diuine that did detaine them their shifts to put the Emperour off the Reader may sufficiently coniecture from Sepulueda at that time Chronicler to the Emperour in his Epistle to Cardinall Contarene one of the Popes Legates in that Councell That my intermission of writing and silence in that question concerning the correction of the yeare hath beene so long I wish the fault had laid in my slouth or forgetfulnesse that I might haue beene hence occasioned to acknowledge and deprecate the blame rather then as now I freely must impute the true cause to the negligence of you Romane Priestes whome I perceiue to wax cold and to thinke of nothing lesse then of calling the Councell with hope whereof as heretofore I was excited so now despaire hath made me dull For I see well that such as are most bound to haue a vigilant care of the Churches publique welfare and not to foreslow any opportunitie of increasing her dignitie neuer so much as mention the Councell at this time as necessarie as alwayes vsefull but when Christians eyther are alreadie or are likely to be at variance In one word neuer but them when there is sure hope it may bee hindered by their discord For when peace gets it turne and all is quiet not a word of the Councell So as what they aime at by these vnseasonable edicts is so manifest as will not suffer the slowest capacitie to liue in doubt or suspition 4 This great Learned Antiquaries Learned aduice in another Epistle sent to the same Cardinall then imployed by the Pope in the Councell was not to suffer matters decreed in any former Councell lawfully assembled together to bee disputed or called in question Sufferance hereof was in his iudgment no lesse preiudiciall to the State Ecclesiastique then vnto the temporall it would be to permit malefactors trauerse the equitie of publique lawes established and knowne after sufficient proofe or confession made of Capitall offences committed against them The marginall quotations of the Trent Councell compared with this graue admonition which had antiquitie-customes Canonicall as the Author vrgeth to giue it countenance may serue as a perfect index for our instruction with what preiudice the Bishops there assembled came to determine by whose manuduction or set rules they drew their supposed inerrable lines of life Now it is impossible any determination that takes it force from multitude of voyces shoud be eyther in it selfe more certaine or more forcible to perswade others thē are the motiues or inducements that swayed the suffragants so to determine and these in this case could by Bellarmines reason be but historicall perswasions or presumptions For no Iesuite I thinke will say these Bishops had the Popes sentence ex Cathedra to assure them before hand what Councels had beene lawfully called and fully confirmed or whether all the ancient Canons they afterwardes reestablished were alreadie as authentique and certaine as
grace it selfe would rather haue held the Negatiue For if wee beleeue as the Papists generally instruct vs that wee our selues all priuate spirites may erre in euery perswasion of faith but the Church which onely is assisted by a publike spirite cannot possibly teach amisse in any Wee must vpon termes as peremptory and in equall degree beleeue euery particular point of faith because the Church so teacheth vs not because wee certainely apprehend the truth of it in it selfe For wee may erre but this publike spirite cannot And consequently wee must infallibly belieue these propositions Christ is the Redeemer of the world not Mahomet There is a Trinity of persons in the diuine nature for this reason only that the Church commends them vnto vs for diuine reuelations seeing by their arguments brought to disproue the sufficiency of Scriptures or certainety of priuate spirites no other means possible is left vs. Nay were they true wee should be onely certain that without the Churches proposall wee still must be most vncertain in these and all other points because the sonnes are perpetually obnoxious to error from which the mother is euerlastingly priuiledged The same propositions and conclusions we might condicionally belieue to be absolutely authentike vppon supposall they were Gods word but that they are his word or reuelations truly diuine wee cannot firmely belieue but onely by firme adherence to the Churches infallible authority as was in the second Section deduced out of the Aduersaries principles Hence it followes that euery particular proposition of faith hath such a proper causall dependance vpon the Churches proposall as the conclusion hath vpon the premisses or any particular vpon it vniuersall Thus much Sacroboseus grants 3 Suppose God should speake vnto vs face to face what reason had wee absolutely and infallibly to belieue him but because wee know his words to bee infallible his infallibility then should be the proper cause of our beliefe For the same reason seeing he doth not speake vnto vs face to face as hee did to Moses but as our aduersaries say reueales his will obscurely so as the Reuealer is not manifested vnto vs but his meaning is by the visible Church which is to vs in stead of Prophetes Apostles and Christ himselfe and all the seuerall manners God vsed to speake vnto the world before he spake to it by his onely sonne this Pantheas infallibility must bee the true and proper cause of our beliefe And Valentian himselfe thinks that Sara and others of the old world to whom God spake in priuate eyther by the mouth of Angels his sonne or holy spirit or by what meanes soeuer did not sinne against the doctrine of faith or through vnbeliefe when they did not belieue Gods promises They did herein vnaduisedly not vnbelieuingly Why not vnbelieuingly because the visible Church did not propose these promises vnto them 4 If not to belieue the visible Churches proposals be that which makes distrust or diffidence to Gods promises infidelity then to belieue them is the true cause of belieuing Gods promises or if Sara and others did as Valentian sayth vnaduisedly or imprudently in not assenting to diuine truthes proposed by Angels surely they had done only prudently and aduisedly in assenting to them their assent had not beene truely and properly beleefe So that by this assertion the Churches proposall hath the very remonstratiue roote character of the immediat and prime cause whereby wee beleeue and know matters of faith For whatsoeuer else can concurre without this our assent to diuine truthes proposed is not true Catholike beliefe but firmely beleeuing this infallibility we cannot erre in any other point of faith 5 This truth Valentian elsewhere could not dissemble howsoeuer in his professed resolution of faith hee sought to couer it by change of apparrell Inuesting the Churches proposall onely with the title of a condition requisite yet withall so dissonant is falsity to it selfe making it the reason of beleeuing diuine Reuelations If a reason it be why wee should belieue them needs must it sway any reasonable mind to embrace their truth And whatsoeuer inclines our minds to the embracement of any truth is the proper efficient cause of beliefe or assent vnto the same Yea efficiency or causality it selfe doth formally consist in this inclination of the mind Nor is it possible this proposall of the Church should moue our minds to embrace diuine Reuelations by any other meanes then by belieeuing it And beliefe it selfe being an inclination or motion of the mind our minds must first be moued by the Churches proposall ere it can moue them at all to assent vnto other diuine truthes Againe Valentian grants that the orthodoxall or catechisticall answere to this interrogation Why doe you belieue the doctrine of the Trinity to be a diuine reuelation is because the Church proposeth it to me for such Hee that admits this answere for sound and Catholike and yet denies the Churches proposall to bee the true and proper cause of his beliefe in the former point hath smothered doubtlesse the light of nature by admitting too much artificiall subtlety into his braines For if a man should aske why do you belieue there is a fire in yonder house and answere were made Because I see the smoake go out of the Chimney should the party thus answering in good earnest peremptorily deny the sight of the smoake to bee the cause of his beleefe there was a fire hee deserued very well to haue eyther his tongue scorched with the one or his eyes put out with the other Albeit if wee speake of the things themselues not of his beliefe concerning them the fire was the true cause of the smoake not the smoake of the fire But whatsoeuer it be Cause Condition Circumstance or Effect that truly satisficeth this demand Why doe you belieue this or that it is a true and proper cause of our beleefe though not of the thing beleeued If then we admit the Churches proposall to bee but a condition annexed to diuine reuelations yet if it bee an infallible medium or meane or as our aduersaries all agree the only mean infallible whereby we can rightly beleeue this or that to be a diuine reuelation it is the true and only infallible cause of our beleefe That speech of Valentian which to any ordinary mans capacity includes as much as we now say was before alleadged That Scripture which is commended and expounded vnto vs by the Church is eo ipso euen for this reason most authentike and cleare He could not more emphatically haue expressed the Churches proposall to be the true and prime cause why particular or determinate diuine reuelations become so credible vnto vs. His second Sacroboscus hath many speeches to be inserted hereafter to the same effect Amongst others where Doctor Whittaker obiects that the principall cause of faith is by Papists ascribed vnto the Church he denyes it onely thus far What we beleeue
for the Churches proposall we iointly beleeue for God speaking eyther in his written word or by tradition Yet if a man should haue asked him why he did or how possibly hee could infallibly beleeue that God did speake all the words eyther contayned in the Bible or in their traditions he must haue giuen eyther a womans answere because God sp●ke them or this because our holy mother the Church doth say so For elsewhere he plainly auowes the Bookes of Canonicall Scripture need not be beleeued without the Churches proposall whose infallible authority was sufficiently knowne before one title of the New Testament was written and were to be acknowledged though it had neuer beene hee plainly confesseth withall that hee could not beleeue the Scriptures taught some principall Articles of faith most firmely beleeued by him vnlesse the churches authoritie did thereto moue him against the light of naturall reason Now if for the churches proposall hee beleeue that which otherwise to beleeue he had no reason at al but rather strong inducements to the contrarie as stedfastly as any other truth the Churches infallibilitie must be the true and only cause both why he beleeues the mystery proposed and distrusts the naturall dictates of his conscience to the contrary In fine hee doth not beleeue there is a Trinitie for in that Article is his instance because God hath said it but hee beleeues that God hath said it because his infallible Mother the Church doth teach it This is the misery of miseries that these Apostates should so bewitch the World as to make it thinke they beleeue the Church because God speakes by it when it is euident they doe not beleeue God but for the Churches testimonie well content to pretend his authority that her own may seeme more soueraigne Thus make they their superstitious groundlesse magical faith but as a wrench to wrest that principle of nature Whatsoeuer God saith is true to countenance any villany they can imagine as will better appeare hereafter But first the Reader must be content to be informed that by some of their tenents the same Diuine reuelations may be assented vnto by the Habite either of Theologie or of faith both which are most certaine but herein different That the former is discursiue and resembles science properly so called the latter not so but rather like vnto that habite or faculty by which we perceiue the truth of generall Maximes or vnto our bodily sight which sees diuers visibles all immediately not one after or by another Whilst some of them dispute against the certainty of priuate spirits their aguments suppose Diuine reuelations must be beleeued by the Habite of Theology which is as a sword to offend vs. Whiles we assault them and vrge the vnstabilitie of their resolutions they fly vnto the non discursiue Habite of faith infused as their best buckler to ward such blowes as the Habite of Theologie cannot beare off 6 Not heere to dispute eyther how truly or pertinently they denie faith infused to be a discursiue habite the Logicall Reader need not I hope my admonition to obserue that faith or beleefe whether habituall or actuall vnlesse discursiue cannot possibly bee resolued into any praeexistent Maxime or principle From which grant this emolument will arise vnto our cause that the Churches authoritie cannot be proued by any diuine reuelation or portion of Scripture seeing it is an Article of faith and must be beleeued eodem intuitu with that Scripture or part of Gods word whether written or vnwritten that teacheth it as light and colours are perceiued by one and the same intuition in the same instant And by this assertion we could not so properly say wee beleeue the diuine reuelation because we beleeue the church nor doe we see colours because we see the light but wee may truly say that the obiects of our faith diuine reuelations are therefore actually credible or worthy of beleefe because the infallible Church doth illustrate or propose them as the light doth make colours though invisible by night visible by day This similitude of the light and colours is not mine but Sacroboscus whom in the point in hand I most mention because Doctor Whittakers Obiections against their Churches Doctrine as it hath beene deliuered by Bellarmine and other late controuersers hath enforced him clearely to vnfold what Bellarmine Stapelton and Valentian left vnexpressed but is implicitely included in all their writings But ere we come to examine the ful incōueniences of their opinions I must request the Reader to obserue that as oft as they mention resolution of faith they meane the discursiue habite of Theologie For al resolution of beleefe or knowledge essentially includes discourse And Bellarmine directly makes Sacroboscus expressely auoucheth the Churches authority the medius terminus or true cause whence determinate conclusions of faith are gathered From which and other equiualent assertions acknowledged by all the Romanists this day liuing it will appeare that Valentian was eyther very ignorant himselfe or presumed hee had to deale with very ignorant aduersaries when he denyed that the last resolution of Catholique faith was into the Churches authoritie which comes next in place to be examined CHAP. III. Discouering eyther the grosse ignorance or notorious craft of the Iesuite in denying his faith is finally resolued into the Churches veracity or infallibility that possibly it cannot bee resolued into any branch of the first truth 1 IT were a foolish question as Caietan sayeth Valentian hath well obserued if one should aske another why he beleeues the first truth reuealing For the assent of faith is finally resolued into the first truth It may bee Caietan was better minded towardes Truth it selfe first or secondary then this Iesuite was which vsed his authority to colour his former rotten position That the Churches proposall by their doctrine is not the cause of faith but our former distinction betweene belief it selfe it obiect often confounded or between Gods word indefinitely and determinately taken if well obserued will euince this last reason to be as foolish as the former assertion was false No man sayeth he can giue any reason besides the infallibility of the Reuealer why hee beleeues a diuine Reuelation It is true no man can giue nor would any aske why wee beleeue that which wee are fully perswaded as a diuine Reuelation But yet a reason by their positions must bee giuen why we beleeue eyther this or that truth any particular or determinat portion of Scripture to be a diuine reuelation Wherefore seeing Christian faith is alwayes of definite and particular propositions or conclusions and as Bellarmine sayeth and all the Papists must say these cannot be known but by the Church As her infallible proposall is the true and proper cause why wee belieue them to bee infallibly true because the onely cause whereby wee can belieue them to bee diuine reuelations so must it bee the essentiall principle into which our assent or
beliefe of any particular or determinate proposition must finally bee resolued Euery conclusion of faith as is before obserued out of Bellarmine must bee gathered in this or like Syllogisme Whatsoeuer God or the first Truth sayeth is most true But God saide all those words which Moses the Prophets and the Euangelists wrote Therefore all these are most true The Maior in this Syllogisme is an Axiome of Nature acknowledged by Turkes and Infidels nor can Christian faith be resolued into it as into a Principle proper to it selfe The Minor say our aduersaries must bee ascertained vnto vs by the Churches authority and so ascertained becomes the first and maine principle of faith as Christian whence all other particular or determinate conclusions are thus gathered Whatsoeuer the Church proposeth to vs for a diuine Reuelation is most certainly such But the Church proposeth the bookes of Moses and the Prophets finally the whole volumes of the olde and new Testament with all their partes as they are extant in the vulgar Romane Edition for diuine reuelations Therefore we must infallibly belieue they are such So likewise must wee beleeue that to bee the true and proper meaning of euerie sentence in them contained which the Church to whom it belongs to iudge of their sense shall tender vnto vs. 2 For better manifestation of the Truth wee now teach the young Reader must here bee aduised of a twofolde resolution One of the things or matters beleeued or knowne into their first parts or Elements Another of our beliefe or perswasions concerning them into their first causes or motiues In the one the most generall or remotest cause In the other the most immediate or next cause alwayes terminates the resolution The one imitates the other inuerts the order of composition so as what is first in the one is last in the other because that which is first intended or resolued vpon by him that casteth the plotte is best effected by the executioner or manuall composer In the former sense wee say mixt bodies are lastly resolued into their first Elements houses into stones timber and other ingredients particular truthes into generall maximes conclusions into their immediate praemises all absurdities into some breach of the rule of contradiction Consonantly to this interpretation of finall resolution the first verity or diuine infallibility is that into which all faith is lastly resolued For as wee saide before this is the first steppe in the progresse of true beliefe the lowest foundation whereon any Religion Christian Iewish Mahometan or Ethnicke can be built And it is an vndoubted Axiome quod primum est in generatione est vltimum in resolutione when we resolue any thing into the parts whereof it is compounded we end in the vndoing or vnfolding it where nature begunne in the composition or making of it But he that would attempt to compose it againe or frame the like aright wold terminate all his thoghts or purposes by the end or vse which is farthest from actuall accomplishment Thus the Architect frames stones and timber and layes the first foundation according to the platforme he carries in his head that hee casts proportionably to the most commodious or pleasant habitation which though last effected determines all cogitations or resolutions precedent Hence if wee take this vltima resolutio as we alwayes take these termes when we resolue our owne perswasions that is for a resolution of all doubts or demands concerning the subiect whereof wee treat A Roman Catholiques faith must according to his Principles finally bee resolued into the Churches infallibility For this is the immediate ground or first cause of any particular or determinate point of Christian faith and the immediate cause is alwayes that into which our perswasions concerning the effect is finally resolued seeing it onely can fully satisfie all demandes doubts or questions concerning it As for example if you aske why men or other terrestriall Creatures breath when fishes doe not to say they haue lungs and fishes none doth not fully satisfie all demaunds or doubts concerning this Subiect For it may iustly further be demanded what necessity there was the one should haue lungs rather then the other If here it bee answered that men and other perfect terrestiall creatures are so full of feruent bloud that without a cooler their owne heare would quickly choake them and in this regard the God of nature who did not make them 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or giue them life in vaine to bee presently extinct did with it giue them lungs by whose respiration their naturall temper should be continued This answere doth fully satisfie all demands concerning the former effect For no man of sense would further question why life should be preserued whose preseruation immediately depends vpon respiration or exercise of the lungs is therfore the immediate cause of both and that whereunto all our perswasions concerning the former subiect are lastly resolued Or if it should bee demanded why onely man of all other creatures hath power to laugh to say he were indued with reason doth not resolue vs for a Philosophical wit would further question Why should reasonable substances haue this foolish faculty rather then others A good Philosopher would perswade vs the spirites which serue for instruments to the rationall part are more nimble subtle and so more apt to produce this motion then the spirites of any other creatures are But this I must professe resolues not me for how nimble or subtle soeuer they be vnlesse man had other corporeall Organes for this motion the spirits alone could not produce it and all organicall parts are framed for the operation or exercise of the faculty as their proper end Whence hee that would finally resolue the former probleme must assigne the true finall cause why reasonable substances more then others should stand in need of this motion Now seeing vnto reason onely it is proper to forecast danger and procure sorrow and contristation of heart by preconceit of what yet is not but perhaps may bee it was requisite that our mortality through reason obnoxious to this inconuenience should bee able to correct this contristant motion by the contrary and haue a faculty to conceiue such pleasant obiects as might dilatate the heart and spirites that as man hurts his body by conceited sorrow whereto no other Creature is subiect so he might heale it againe by a kind of pleasance whereof hee alone is capable 3 Answerable to this latter acception of finall resolution if you demaund a Romane Catholike why hee beleeues there is a Trinity there shall bee a resurrection or life euerlasting his answere would be because God or the first verity hath said so but this doth not fully satisfie for wee might further question him as hee doth vs why doe you belieue that God did say so Here it sufficeth not to say This truth is expresly taught in Canonicall Scriptures for the doubt whereby hee hopes
to stagger vs most is this Why doe you belieue or how can you know those Bookes which yee call Scriptures were from God The last and finall answere according to the Iesuiticall Catechismes wherein as you heard before out of Bellarmine they thinke they haue great aduantage of vs would be this The holy Church our Mother doth so instruct giuing vs this expresse admonition withall his amplius fili mine requiras Here vpon God their Father and the infallible Church their mothers blessing their soules are bound to rest without further doubt or demand Whence vnlesse they vse so me mentall reseruation or seeke to shrowd themselus in the former aequiuocation hetherto vnfolded they must of necessity account themselues accursed if they deny the last or finall resolution of their beliefe to be into the Churches infallibility or veracity Againe what reasonable man would demand further resolution of any doubts incident to his faculty bee it reall or verball speculatiue or practicke then into the prime and immediate rules He should surely be lasht in a Grammer schoole that eyther for quantity of syllables right accent construction of wordes or the like would seeke a fu●ther reason then a knowne generall rule which admitteth no exception So should he with disgrace bee turned ouer the Barre amongst the Lawyers that would demurre or seeke a deuolution of an euident ruled case which by his owne confession could neuer alter Much more grosse would his absurdity appeare that in the Mathematiques or other demonstratiue science should attempt to resolue a probleme or conclusion further then into an vnquestionable theoreme or definition Finally might wee haue a centum●irall Court of all professions vnder the sunne our aduersaries would bee condemned with ioint consent eyther of intollerable folly or impudency if they should with Valentian deny the last resolution of their faith to bee into the Churches infallibility seeing they make it such a Catholike inerrable perpetuall rule of Christian faith as admits no exception no deuolution from it no appeale It is to them more then he said of Logicke Ars artium scientia scientiarum a faculty of faculties a Rule of Rules able rightly to resolue all doubts concerning the very Canon of Scriptures or Gods word written or vnwritten or the true sense or meaning of both briefly able most authentically to determine define all controuersies in Religion of what kind soeuer 4 Nor will it boot them ought to say that Gods word in the Churches mouth is the Rule whereinto faith is finally resolued seeing the Church defines nothing but by Gods word eyther written or vnwritten For this is more then the party which beleeues it can know nor hath hee any other motiue to belieue it besides the Churches definition or assertion Suppose then wee should conceiue so well of a temporall Iudge as to presume hee did neuer speake but according to the true meaning eyther of statute or customary law yet if wee could not know eyther the one or the other or their right interpretation but onely by his determinations the law were little beholden to him vnlesse for a floute that should say he were resolued iointly by the Iudge and it For seeing the Law is to him altogether vncertaine but by the Iudges auouchment or interpretation his last resolution of any act of iustice must bee onely into the Iudges skill and fidelity This inference Sacroboscus would nor deny hee himselfe hath made the like to proue that not the Scripture but the Church must bee the infallible rule of faith You will obiect saith he when the Church defines it alwayes defines according to the word of God eyther written or vnwritten New reuelations it receiues none the promised assistance of the spirit helps it onely to know what is alreadie reuealed Therefore from the first to the last that which determines controuersies and is the Iudge in all questions of faith is the word of God To this obiection thus hee answeres because we cannot be certaine of the true sense of Gods word but by the voice of the Church which heares our controuersies and answeres them The Church is Iudge although it iudge according to Gods word which vpon examination and by the spirits assistance it alwayes vnderstands a right And if euery one of vs should haue the infallible gift of vnderstanding Gods word wee should not neede any other Iudge The Reader I hope will remember what was said before that those flowting hypocrites would faine beleeue the Pope saith nothing but what God saith that God may be thought to say all he sayes which is the most abhominable blasphemie that euer Hell broacht worse then worshipping of Diuels as shal appeare hereafter 5 It may be some Nouice in Artes that hath late read some vulgar Logicians vpon the demonstrations might here frame this doubt in fauour of the Romish Churches Doctrine As the finall cause may be demonstrated by the efficient and the efficient by the final so may the Church be infallibly proued by Scriptures and the Scriptures againe by the Churches authority both infallibly beleeved each for others sake as both the former demonstrations are true and certaine and yet mutually depending one vpon the other 6 This obiection had some late Logicians vnderstood what they said would carry some shew of truth to countenance Valentians former circular resolutiō but they lace their M rs rule vttered by him Pingui Minerua too too straightly For taking it as they do we shold admit of circular demōstrations the conceit wherof can haue no place but in a giddy braine To demonstrate the finall cause in any worke of Nature were to assigne a Counsailor to the infinite wisdome of the God of Nature in whose intention the end is first and is the cause of all operation or efficiency Who could giue or who would demaund a naturall cause why life should be prescribed for this is the will of him that gaue it If question were made of the manner how the life of man and other creatures is preserued when as their heat might seeme to choake them A man might truly answere by respiration and respiration is from the lungs But it is one thing to aske how or by what meanes another for what end any effect is produced The former is an inquiry of the efficient within these precincts of meanes or motions alwayes prime and independent The later of the final cause absolutely indemonstrable becauses it implies a contradiction to giue a reason why that should be for whose sake all other things of that ranke haue being Nor is the end it selfe to speake properly euer produced though oftimes in common speech we take the effect immediately thereto destinated because most sensible for the end it selfe as we doe the starre next to the pole because visible for the pole or point immoueable Thus we confound respirations or actuall preseruation of life with the finall cause why men haue lungs when as both are effects of the lungs
recordes and declarations written or vnwritten to be most authentique they cannot be certaine whether euer there had beene such an Emperour as they plead succession from or at least how farre his Dominions extended or where they lay This manner of plea in secular controuersies would be a meane to defeate him that made it For albeit the Christian World did acknowledge there had beene such an Emperour and that many parts of Europe of right belonged vnto his lawfull heire Yet if it were otherwise vnknowne what parts these were or who this heire should bee no Iudge would be so mad as finally to determine of eyther vpon such motiues Or if the Plaintiffe could by such courses as the World knowes oft preuaile in iudgement or other gracious respects effect his purpose hee were worse then madde that could thinke the finall resolution of his right were into the Emperours last will and testament which by his owne confession no man knowes besides himselfe and not rather into his owne presumed fidelitie or the Iudges apparant partialitie So in this controuersie whatsoeuer the Pope may pretend from Christ all in the end comes to his owne authority which wee may safely beleeue herein to bee most infallible that it will neuer prooue partiall against it selfe or define ought to his Holinesse disaduantage 10 Here againe it shall not be amisse to admonish yonger Students of another gull which the Iesuite would put vpon vs to make their Churches doctrine seeme lesse abominable in this point lest you should thinke they did aequalize the authority of the Church with diuine reuelations Valentian would perswade you it were no part of the formall obiect of faith It is true indeed that the Churches authority by their doctrine is not comprehended in the obiect of belieefe whilest it onely proposeth other Articles to bee beleeued No more is the Sunne comprehended vnder the obiects of our actuall sight whilest we behold colours or other visibles by the vertue of it But yet as it could not make colours or other things become more visible vnto vs vnlesse it selfe were the first and principall visible that is vnlesse it might bee seene more clearely then those things which wee see by it so wee would direct our sight vnto it so would it bee impossible the Churches infallible proposal could make a Romane Catholikes beliefe of Scriptures or their orthodoxal sense the stronger vnlesse it were the first and principall credible or primary obiect of his beliefe or that which must bee most clearely most certainely and most sted fastly belieued so as all other Articles besides must be belieued by the beliefe or credibility of it This is most euident out of Sacroboscus and Bellarmines resolution or explication of that point how the Churches proposall confirmes a Roman Catholiques beliefe To giue this doctrine of their Churches infallibility the right title according to the truth it is not an Article of Catholike beleefe but a Catholike Axiome of Antichristian vnbeliefe which from the necessary consequences of their assertions more strictly to be examined will easily appeare CHAP. IIII. What maner of causall dependance Romish beleefe hath on the Church that the Romanist truly and properly beleeues the Church onely not God or his word 1 THe 2. main assertions of our aduersaries whence our intended conclusion must be proued are these often mentioned heretofore First that wee cannot be infallibly perswaded of the truth of Scriptures but by the Churches proposall Secondly that without the same wee cannot bee infallibly perswaded of the true sense or meaning of these scriptures which that Church and we both belieue to be Gods word How wee should know the Scriptures to be Gods word is a probleme in Diuinity which in their iudgement cannot be assoiled without admission of Traditions or diuine vnwritten verities of whose extent and meaning the Church must be infallible Iudge It is necessary to saluation saith Bellarmine that wee know there bee some bookes diuine which questionlesse cannot by any meanes be knowne by Scriptures For albeit the Scriptures say that the Books of the Prophets or Apostles are diuine yet this I shall not certainely belieue vnlesse I first belieue that Scripture which saith thus is diuine For so wee may read euery where in Mahomets Alcoran that the Alcoran it selfe was sent from heauen but wee belieue it not Therefore this necessary point that some Scripture is diuine cannot sufficiently be gathered out of Scriptures alone Consequently seeing faith must rely vpon Gods word vnlesse wee haue God word vnwritten we can haue no faith His meaning is wee cannot know the Scriptures to be diuine but by Traditions and what Traditions are diuine what not wee cannot know but by the present visible Church as was expresly taught by the same Author before And the finall resolution of our belieuing what God hath said or not said must bee the Churches authority To this collection Sacroboseus thus farre accords Some Catholiques reiected diuers Canonicall Books without any danger and if they had wanted the Churches proposall for others as well as them they might without sinne haue doubted of the whole Canon This he thinks consonant to that of Saint Austin I would not belieue the Gospell vnlesse the Churches authority did thereto moue me He addes that we of reformed Churches making the visible Churches authority in defining points of faith vnsufficient might disclaime all without any greater sinne or danger to our soules then wee incurre by disobeying some parts of Scripture to wit the Apocryphall books canonized by the Romish church The Reader I hope obserues by these passages How Bellarmine ascribes that to Tradition which is peculiar to Gods prouidence Sacroboscus that to blind beliefe which belongs vnto the holy Spirit working faith vnto the former points by the ordinary obseruation of Gods prouidence and experiments answerable to the rules of Scriptures 2 Consequently to the Trent Councels decree concerning the second assertion Bellarmine thus collects It is necessary not onely to bee able to read Scriptures but to vnderstand them but the Scripture is often so ambiguous and intricate that it cannot bee vnderstood without the exposition of some that cannot erre therefore it alone is not sufficient Examples there be many For the equality of the diuine persons the Holy Ghost proceeding from the Father and the Sonne as from one ioint originall Originall sinne Christes descension into Hell nd many like may indeed be deduced out of scriptures but not so plainely as to end controuersies with contentious spirits if we should produce onely testimonies of Scriptures And wee are to note there bee two things in Scripture the Characters or the written words and the sense included in them The Character is as the sheath but the sense is the very sword of the spirite Of the first of these two all are partakers for whosoeuer knowes the Character may reade the Scripture but of the sense all men are not capable nor can wee in
diuersitie of reason in these two consequences ariseth from the diuerse manner of seeing colours by the Sunnes light and beleeuing Scriptures by the Church which wee are now to gather from this short catechisme contayning the summe of Roman faith CHAP. V. Declaring how the first maine ground of Romish faith leads directly vnto Atheisme the second vnto preposterous Heathenisme or Idolatry 1 IT is a prety sophisme as a iudicious and learned Diuine in his publike exercise for his first degree in Diuinity late well obserued wherewith the Iesuite deludes the simple making them belieue their faith otherwise weake and vnsetled is most firme and certaine if it haue once the visible or representatiue Churches confirmation when as the Church so taken seldome or neuer instructs or confirms any at least not the hundred thousandth part of them vnto whose saluation such confirmation is by Iesuiticall perswasions most absolutely necessary But suppose the visible Church or Romish Consistory the Pope his Cardinals should vouchsafe to catechize any the Dialogue betweene them and the catechized would thus proceed Cons. Doe yee beleeue these sacred volumes to bee the word of God Catech. Wee doe Cons. Are you certaine they are Catech. So wee hope Cons. How can your hope bee sure for Mahomet saith His Alchoran is sundry other heretikes say their fained reuelations or false traditions are Gods word How can you assure vs yee may not bee deceiued as well as they Are not many of them as good Schollers as you Catech. Yes indeed and better Cons. Are not you subiect vnto error as well as they Cat. Would God wee were not Cons. What must you doe then to be ascertained these are diuine Reuelations Cat. Nay wee know not but this is that which wee especially desire to know and would binde our selues in any bond to such as could teach vs. Cons. Well said doe yee not thinke it reason then to bee ruled in this case by such as cannot bee deceiued Cat. It is meete wee should Cons. Loe wee are the men wee are the true visible Church placed in authority by Christ himselfe for this purpose These Scriptures tell you plainely as much Tues Petrus super hanc Petram c. His Holinesse whom here you see is Peters Successor sole heire of that promise far more glorious then the Iewish Church euer had any 2 This is the very quintessence and extraction of huge and corpulent volumes written in this argument which our English Mountibankes sent hither from the Seminaries venditate as a Paracelsian medicine able to make men immortall The summe of all others write or they alledge is this Euery one may pretend what writings hee lists to bee the word of God who shall bee the infallible Iudge eyther of written or vnwritten reuelations Must not the Church for shee is Magistra Iudex fidei These are the words and this is the very Argument wherein Valentians soule it seemes did most delight hee vseth them so oft But to proceed the parties chatechized thus by the visible Church it selfe should any Protestant enter Dialogue with them how they know those receiued scriptures to be the word of God could answere I trow sufficiently to this question thus Mary sir woe know better then you for we heard the visible Church which cannot erre say so with our owne eares Prot. You are most certaine then that these are the Oracles of God because the visible church Gods liuing oracle did beare testimony of them Catech. Yea Sir and their testimony is most infallible Prot But what if you doubt againe of their infallibilities How will you answere this obiection Mahomet saith his Alcoran is scripture the Turkish Priestes will tell you as much viua voce and shew you if you bee disposed to belieeue them e●ident places therein for his infallibility Manes could say that hee had diuine reuelations The Pope pretends hee hath this infallibility which neither of them had Who shall iudge the Consistory But why should you thinke they may not erre as well as others Did they shew you any euidence out of scriptures or did they bring you to such entire acquaintance with their publike spirit as to approue your selues diuine Critickes of all questions concerning the Canon as oft as any doubt should arise Catech. Oh no these audacious Criticismes of priuat men they vtterly detest and forewarned vs vpon paine of damnation to beware of For there is no priuate person but may erre and for such to iudge of Scriptures were presumption iustly damnable Rely they must for this reason vpon the churches infallibility and that continually It alone cannot without it all others may erre as well as Manes Mahomet Nestorius or Eutyches vndoubtedly belieuing it cannot erre wee our selues are as free from error as he that followes such good counsell giuen by others as hee cannot giue himselfe is more secure then hee that altogether followes his owne aduise albeit better able to counsell others then the former Prot. Then I perceiue your onely holde-fast in all temptations your onely anchor when any blasts of vaine doctrine arise is this The present Remish Church cannot erre for if you doubt of any doctrine taught to the contrary aske her and shee will resolue you or if you cannot see the truth in it selfe yet belieue without all wauering as shee belieues that sees it and you shall bee as safe as if you roade in the harbour in a storme Catech. Ah yes Gods holy name bee praysed who hath so well prouided for his church for otherwise heretickes and schismatikes would shake and tosse her euen in this maine point or ground of faith as euill spirits doe ships in tempests wee must eyther holde this fast sure or else all is gone God hath left off speaking vnto men and wee cannot tell whether euer hee spake to them or no but as the present church which speakes viua voce tels vs. 3 But the Reader perhaps expects what inconuenience wil hence follow First hereby it is apparant that beliefe of Scriptures diuine Truth and their true sense absolutely and immediately depends vpon the churches proposall or rather vpon their beliefe of what it proposeth as well after they are confirmed in that generall point That they are Gods word as in the instant of their confirmation in it The first necessary consequence of which opinio● is That the church must bee more truely and properly beleeued then any part of Scripture or matter contained in it For in this manner of dependance that transcendent rule of nature 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hath it proper force Whether wee speake of the Essence Existence or quality of things being or existing that vpon which any other thing thus absolutely and continually depends doth more properly really exist and hath much firmer interest in it essence and existence then ought can haue which depends vpon it One there is and no more that can truely say my Essence is mine owne and my
existence necessary Whatsoeuer is besides is but a shadow or picture borrowed from his infinite being Amongst created entities all essentially depending on Him Accidents haue a kind of existence peculiar to themselues yet cannot so properly bee saide to exist as their subiects on whom they haue such double dependance Nor can the Moone so truely say my beauty is mine owne as may the Sunne which lends light and splendor to this his sister as it were vpon condtion shee neuer vse it but in his sight For the same reason that for which wee belieue another thing is alwayes more truely more really and more properly belieued then that which is belieued for it if the one beliefe necessarily depend vpon the other tam in facto esse quam in fieri from the first beginning to the latter end For of beliefes thus mutually affected the one is reall and radicall the other nominall or at the most by participation onely reall This consequence is vnsound Intellectiue knowledge depends on sensitiue therefore sensitiue is of these two the surer The reason is because intellectiue knowledge depends on sensitiue onely in the acquisition not after it is acquired But this inference is most vndoubted Wee belieue the conclusion for the premisses therefore we belieue the premisses the better because beliefe of the Conclusion absolutely depends vpon the premisses during the whole continuance of it This is the great Philosophers rule and a branch of the former Axiome And some iustly question whether in Scholastique propriety of speech wee can truely say there is a beliefe of the conclusion distinct from the beleefe of the premisses or rather the beliefe of the premisses is by extrinsical denomination attributed vnto the conclusion This latter opinion at least in many Syllogismes is the truer most necessarily true in all wherein the conclusion is a particulall essential●y subordinate to an vniuersall of truth vnquestionable As hee that infallibly belieues euery man is a reasonable creature infallibly belieues Socrates is such Nor can wee say there be two dictint beliefes one of the vniversall another of this particular for he that sayeth All excepteth none If Socrates then make one in the Catalogue of men hee that formerly knew all knew him to bee a reasonable Creature all he had to learne was what was meant by this name Socrates a man or a beast After he knowes him to be a man in knowing him to bee a reasonable creature hee knowes no more then he did before in that vniuersall Euery man is a reasonable Creature The like consequence holdes as firme in our present argument He that beleeues this vniuersall Whatsoeuer the Church proposeth concerning Scriptures is most true hath no more to learne but onely what particulars the church proposeth These being knowne we cannot imagine there should bee two distinct beleefes one of the churches generall infallibility another of the particular Truthes or points of faith contained in the Scripture proposed by it For as in the former case so in this He that from the churches proposall beleeues or knowes this particular The Booke of Reuelations was from God receiues no increase of former beleefe for before hee beleeued all the church did propose and therefore this particular because one of all 4 The truth of this conclusion may againe from a maine pinciple of Romish faith be thus demonstrated Whatsoeuer vnwritten traditions the Church shall propose though yet vnheard of or vnpossible otherwise to be knowne then onely by the Churches asseueration all Romanists are bound as certainly to beleeue as deuoutly to embrace as any truths contayned in the written word acknowledged by vs the Iewes and them for diuine Now if eyther from their owne experience the ioynt consent of sincere antiquitie or testimonie of Gods spirit speaking to them in priuate or what meanes soeuer else possible or imaginable they gaue any absolute credence vnto the written word or matters contained in it besides that they giue vnto the churches generall veracitie the Scriptures by addition of this credence were it great or little arising from these grounds peculiar to them must needs be more firmely beleeued and embraced then such vnwritten traditions as are in themselues suspitious vncapable of other credit then what they borrow from the Church For in respect of the Churches proposall Which is one and the same alike peremptory in both Scriptures and traditions of what kinde soeuer must be equally beleeued And if such traditions as can haue no assurance besides the Churches testimony must be as well beleeued as Scriptures or diuine truthes contained in them the former conclusion is euidently necessary that they neyther beleeue the Scriptures nor the Truthes contained in them but the Churches proposall of them onely For the least beleefe of any Diuine truth added to beleefe of the Churches proposall which equally concernes written and vnwritten verities would dissolue the former equalitie But that by the Trent Councell may not bee dissolued Therefore our aduersaries in deede and verity beleeue no Scriptures nor Diuine written Truth but the Churches proposall onely concerning them And Sacroboscus bewrayes his readinesse to beleeue the Church as absolutely as any Christian can doe God or Christ though no title of the New-testament were extant For that the Church cannot erre was an Oracle reuealed by God proposed by the Church and beleiued by the faithfull before any part of the New testament was written Now hee that without the Gospel of Iesus Christ would beleeue the Doctrines of faith as firmely as with it beleeues not the Gospel which now he hath but their authorities onely vpon which though wee had it not he would as absolute rely for all matters of doctrine supposed to be contained in it 5 Or further to illustrate the truth of our conclusion with this Iesuits former comparison which hath best illustrated the Romish churches tenent That Church in respect of the Canon of Scriptures or any part thereof is as the light is to colours As no colour can be seene of vs but by the light so by his doctrine neyther the Canon of Scriptures or any part thereof can be known without the Churches testimonie Againe as remoueall of light presently makes vs loose the sight of colours so doubt o● deniall of the Churches authoritie depriues vs of all true and stedfast beleefe concerning Gods Word or any matter contained in it God as they plead hath reuealed his will obscurely and vnto a distinct or cleare apprehension of what is obscurely reuealed the visible churches declaration is no lesse necessary then light to discernment of colours The reason is one in both and is this As the actuall visibilitie of colours wholly depends vpon the light as well for existence as duration so by Iesuiticall Doctrine true beleefe of Scriptures wholly depends on the visible Churches declaration as well during the whole continuance as the first producing of it By the same reason as we gather that light in it selfe is more
visible then colours seeing by it alone colours become actually visible so will it necessarily follow that the churches declaration that is the Popes priuiledge for not erring is more stedfastly to be beleeued as more credible in it selfe then eyther the Canon of Scriptures or any thing therein contayned because these become actually credible vnto vs onely by the churches declaration which cannot possibly ought auaile for their beleefe vnlesse it were better beleeued 6 Perhaps the Reader will here challenge mee that this last instance proues not al that I proposed in the title of this chapter For it onely proues the Popes supremacie is better to bee beleeued then that Christ is come in the flesh that God did euer speake to men in former ages by his Prophets and in later by his sonne But this inferres no absolute alienation of our beleefe from Christ seeing euen in this respect that wee beleeue the Church or Pope so wel we must needs beleeue that Christ is come in the flesh and that God hath spoken to vs sundrie wayes for thus much the Pope auoucheth Yea but what if the church teach vs that Christ is our Lord and Redeemer and yet vrge vs to doe that which is contumelious to his Maiestie What if it teach vs that these Scriptures are Gods Word and yet binde vs by her infallible decrees to breake his Lawes and giue his spirit the lie Should we make profession of beleeuing as the Pope teacheth and yet take his meaning to be onely such as Marnixius whom we better beleeue would make it His Holinesse would quickly pronounces vs Apostataes from the Catholike faith Or if this suffice not the indifferent Reader for satisfying my former promise let him haue patience but for a while and I will pay him all 7 Their first maine position That no priuate man can certainely know the Canon of Scriptures to bee Gods word but by relying vpon the present Church inferres as much as hath beene said much more will follow from their second That no man can certainely bee perswaded of the true sense and meaning of particular propositions contained in the general Canon without the same Churches testimony vnto whom the authentique interpretation or dijudication of Scriptures wholly belongs Imagine the former parties now fully perswaded of the Scriptures diuine truth in generall should by the Consistory which late catechized them be questioned about the meaning of some particular places Cons. Wee hope you adore the consecrated host with diuine worship as oft as you meete it in procession Cat. Desirous wee are to doe any thing that becomes good Christians and obedient sons vnto our holy mother the Church but wee cannot satisfie out conscionces how this may stand with the principles of Christianity Your Holinesses for which we rest yours vnto death haue assured vs these sacred volumes are the very words of God and his words we know must bee obeyed Now since wee know these to be his wordes wee haue found it written in them Thou shalt worshippe the Lord thy God and him onely shalt thou serue It is wee doubt our simplicity that will not suffer vs to conceiue how the consecrated Host can be adored as God without open breach of his commandement For to our shallow vnderstanding there is no necessity to perswade vs Christ God and man should bee hid in it These words Hoc est corpus meum mny beare many interpretations no way pregnant to this purpose And it is doubtfull whether Christs body though really present in the Sacrament should retaine the same presence in procession whereas the former commandement is plaine Wee must worshippe the Lord our God and him onely must we serue Consist Yee thinke this Text is plaine to your late purpose wee thinke otherwise Whether is more meet yee to submit your priuate opinions to our publike spirits or vs that are Pastors to learne of you seely sheepe Cat. Therefore are your seruants come vnto you that they may learne how to obey you in this decree without idolatry well hoping that as ye enioyne vs absolutely to obey you in it so yee can giue vs full assurance wee shall not disobey the spirit of God in the former great commandement whose exposition we most desire 8 Would these or like supplications though conceiued in Christian modesty though proposed with religious feare and awfull regard of their persons though presented with teares and sighes or other more euident signes of inward sorrow finde any entrance into Romish Prelates eares or moue the Masters of the Inquisition house to forbeare exaction of obedience to the former or other decree of the Trent Councel Were the forme of the decree it selfe vnto priuate iudgements neuer so contradictory to Gods expresse written lawes or the consequence of practizing as it prescribes neuer so dreadfull to the doubtfull conscience How much better then were it for such silly soules had they neuer knowne the Bookes of Moses to haue been from God for so committing idolatry with stocks and stones or other creatures they had done what was displeasing to their Master iustly punishable yet with fewer stripes because his will was not made known vnto them But now they know it and acknowledge the truth of this commandement To what end That they may bee left without all excuse for not doing it They see the generall truth of Gods Oracles that they may bee more desperately blinded in wilfull peruerting the particulars For what glory could the allurement of silly ignorant men to simple idolatry be vnto great Antichrist Let them first subscribe to the written Lawes of the euerliuing God and afterwardes wholly submit themselues to his determinations for their practise and so the opposition betwixt him and the Deity betwixt his iniunctions and the decrees of the Almighty may bee more positiue more directly contrary The Heathen or others not acknowledging Gods word at all are rightly tearmed vnbeleeuers men thus beleeuing the Scriptures in generall to be Gods word from the testimony of the Church and yet absolutely relying vpon her iudgement for the meaning of particular places are transported from vnbeliefe to misbeliefe from grosse ignorance to wilfull defiance of God his lawes Finally they are brought to know Gods word that they may doubt in this and like fearefull practises enioyned that so first doubting and afterwards desperately resoluing absolutely to follow the Churches iniunction against that sense and meaning of the diuine decrees which the holy spirit doth dictate to their priuate consciences they may without doubt be damned for not abiding in the truth Like their first parents they heare Gods sentence but preferre the interpretations of Sathans first borne before their owne because it must bee presumed hee is more subtle then they Or to referre the two maine streames of this iniquity to their proper heads The first That we cannot know the olde or new Testament to be Gods word but by relying vpon the Church makes all subscribers to
it reall Atheists or Infidels and Christians onely in conceit or vpon condition If the Church whose authority they so highly esteeme be as infallible as is pretended Heretofore I haue much grieued at the Trent Councels impiety but now I wonder at these graue Fathers folly that would trouble themselues with prescribing so many Canons or ouerseeing so large a Catechisme when as the beginning of Protogoras booke one or two words altered might haue comprehended the entire confession of such mens faith as rely vpon their fatherhoods The Atheist thus beganne his booke De dijs non habeo quod dicam vtrum sint necne Concerning the Gods or their being I can say nothing A priuate Romane Catholike might render an entire account of his faith in termes as briefe De Christo Christiana fide non haebeo quod dicam vtrum sint necne Whether there bee a Christ or Christian Religion bee but a politike fable I haue nothing to say peremptorily yea or no the Church or Councell can determine whom in this and all other points wherein God is a party I will absolutely belieue whilest I liue if at my death I finde they teach amisse let the diuell and they if there be a diuell decide the controuersie Yet this conceit or conditionall beliefe of Christ and christianity conceiued from the former serues as a ground colour for disposing mens soules to take the sable dye of Hell wherewith the second maine streame of Romish impiety will deepely infect all such as drinke of it For once belieuing Gods word from the Churches testimony this absolute submission of their consciences to embrace that sense it shall suggest sublimates them from refined Heathenisme of Gentilisme to diabolisme or symbolizing with infernall spirits whose chiefest solace consists in acting greatest villanies or wresting the meaning of Gods written lawes to his dishonour For iust proofe of which imputation wee are to preuent what as wee late intimated might in fauour of their opinion bee replyed to our former instance of light and colours 9 Some perhaps well affected would be resolued why as hee that sees colours by the sunne sees not onely the sunne but colours with it so hee that belieues the Scriptures by relying vpon the Church should not belieue the Church onely but the Scriptures too commended by it The doubt could hardly bee resolued if according to our aduersaries tenent the Churches declarations did confirme our faith by illustrating the Canon of Scriptures or making particular truthes contained in it inherently more perspicuous as if they were in themselues but potentially credible and made actually such by the Churches testimony which is the first and principall credible in such sort as colours become actually visible by illumination of the principall and prime visible But herein the grounds of Romish doctrine and the instance brought by Sacroboscus to illustrate it are quite contrary For the light of the Sunne though most necessary vnto sight is yet necessary onely in respect of the obiect or for making colours actually visible which made such or sufficiently illuminated are instantly perceiued without further intermediation of any other light then the internall light of the Organe in discerning colours alwaies rather hindred then helped by circumfusion of light externall For this reason it is that men in a pitte or caue may at noone day see the starres which are inuisible to such as are in the open aire not that they are more illuminated to the one then the other but because plentie of light doth hinder the organ or eye-sight of the one Generally all obiects eyther actually visible in themselues or sufficiently illuminated are better perceiued in darkenesse then in the light But so our aduersaries will not grant that after the church hath sufficiently proposed the whole Canon to be Gods word the distinct meaning of euery part is more cleare and facile to all priuate spirits by how much they lesse participate of the visible Churches further illustration For quite contrary to the former instance the Churches testimony or declaration is onely necessary or auaileable to right beliefe in respect not of the obiect to be beleeued Scriptures but of the party beleeuing For as hath beene obserued no man in their iudgement can belieue Gods word or the right meaning of it but by beleeuing the Church and all beliefe is inherent in the belieuer Yea this vndoubted beliefe of the Churches authority is that which in Bellarmine and Sacroboscus iudgement makes a Roman Catholicks beleefe of Scriptures or diuine truthes taught by them much better then a Protestants If otherwise the churches declaration or testimony could without the beliefe of it infallibility which is inherent in the subiect belieuing make Scriptures credible as the light doth colours visible in themselues a Protestant that knew their churches meaning might as truely belieue them as a Romane Catholike albeit hee did not absolutely belieue the church but onely vse her helpe for their Orthodoxall interpretation as hee doth ordinary expositors or as many doe the benefite of the Sunne for seeing colours which neuer thinke whether colours may bee seene without it or no. For though it bee certaine that they cannot yet this opinion is meerely accidentall to their sight and if a man should be so wilfull as to maintaine the contrary it would argue onely blindnesse of mind none of his bodily sight Nor should distrust of the Romish churches authority ought diminish our beliefe of any diuine truth were her declarations requisite in respect of the obiect to bee beleeued not in respect of the subiect beleeuing 10 Hence ariseth that difference which plainely resolues the former doubt For seeing the Sunne makes colours actually visible by adding vertue or lustre to them wee may rightly say wee see colours as truely as the light by which wee see them For though without the benefite of it they cannot be seene yet are they not seene by seeing it or by relying vpon it testimony of them Againe because the vse of light is onelie necessary in respect of the obiect or for presenting colours to the eye after once they bee sufficiently illuminated or presented euery creature endued with sight can immediately discern each from other without any further helpe or benefite of externall light than the generall whereby they become all alike actually visible at the fame instant The Sunnes light then is the true cause why colours are seene out no cause of our distinguishing one from another beeing seene or made actually visible by it For of all sensible obiects sufficiently proposed the sensitiue faculty though seated in a priuate person is the sole immediate supreme Iudge and relies not vpon any others more publike verdite of them On the contrary because the Romanists supposed firme beliefe of Scriptures or their true meaning ariseth onely from his vndoubted beliefe of the churches veracity which is in the belieuer as in it subiect not from any increase of inherent credibility or perspicuity
thence propagated to the Scriptures Hence it is that consequently to his positions most repugnant to all truth hee thinkes after the church hath sufficiently auouched the Scriptures diuine truth in generall wee cannot infallibly distinguish the true sense and meaning of one place from another but must herein also rely vpon the churches testimony and onely belieue that sense to bee repugnant that consonant to the analogie of faith which shee shall tender albeit our priuate consciences bee neuer so well informed by other Scriptures to the contrary The truth then of our former conclusion is hence easily manifested For seeing they hold both the Scriptures and their distinct sense to bee obscure and vnable to ascertaine themselues vnlesse the Church adde perspicuity or facility of communicating their meaning to priuate spirits such after the Churches proposall cannot possibly discerne them any better or more directly in themselues then they did before but must wholy rely vpon their Prelates as if these were the onely watchmen in the Tower of Gods church that could by vertue of their place discerne all diuine truth Others must belieue there is an omnipotent God which hath giuen his law a Mediator of the new Testament but what the meaning either of Law or Gospell is they may not presume otherwise to determine then weake sights do of things they see confusedly a farre off whose particular distance or difference they must take onely vpon other mens report that haue seene them distinctly and at hand 11 To illustrate these deductions with the former similitude of the prime and secondary visibles Let vs suppose for disputations sake that the Sunne which illuminates colours by its light were further indued as wee are with sense and reason able to iudge of all the differences betweene them which it can manifest to vs and hence challenge to bee a Pope or infallible proposer of colours This supposition the Canonist hath made lesse improbable For Deus fecit duo luminaria God made two lights that is by his interpretation the Pope and the Emperour Or if you please to mitigate the harshnesse of it let the Man in the Moone whom we may not imagine speechlesse bee supposed the sunne or Pope of colours Mercurie or Nuncio As the Papists say wee cannot know Scriptures to be Scriptures but by the infallible proposall of the Church so it is euident wee cannot see any colour at all vnlesse illuminated or proposed by the Sunnes light But after by it wee see them suppose wee should take vpon vs to discourse of their nature or determine of their distinct properties as now wee doe and the sunne or Pope of colours by himselfe or his Nuncio should take vs vp as Duke Humphrey did the blinde man restored to sight which hee neuer had lost Yea who taught you to distinguish colours were you not quite blinde but now as yet you cannot discerne any colours without my publike light and yet will you presume to desine their properties and distinguish their natures against my definitiue sentence knowne Must not hee that enables you to see them enable you to distinguish them seene Must you not wholly rely vpon my authority whether this bee white or that blacke If a man vpon these Motiues should absolutely belieue the sunnes determinations renouncing the iudgement of his priuate senses could hee truely say that hee eyther knew this colour to be white or that blacke or another greene Rather were he not bound to say I neither know white from black nor blacke from blew nor blew from greene but I know that to be white which the Sunne the onely infallible Iudge of colours saith is white that onely to bee blacke that blew and that greene which he shall determine so to be I may thinke indeed that the snow is white or coales blacke but with submission to the Sunnes determination 12 And yet as you haue heard at large out of the Trent Councell and best Apologies can bee made for it the Church must bee the infallible Iudge of all Scripture sense and must absolutely be belieued without all appeale to scriptures not conditionally as shee shall accord with them The conclusion hence issuing is most infallible and on their parts most ineuitable Whosoeuer absolutely acknowledgeth this authority in the Church or Consistory yelds such obedience vnto it in all determinations concerning the Canon of Scriptures doth not belieue eyther this or that determinate proposition of faith or any definite meaning of Gods word The best resolution hee can make of his faith is this I belieue that to bee the meaning of euery place which the Church shall define to bee the meaning which is all one as if hee had said I doe not belieue the Scriptures or their meaning but I belieue the Churches decision and sentence concerning them Hee that belieues not the Church saith Canus but with this limitation if it giue sentence according vnto Scriptures doth not belieue the Church but the scriptures By the same reason it followes most directly he that belieues not the true sense and meaning of scriptures but with this reseruation If the Church so thinke or determine doth not belieue them but the Church onely For as the Schoolemen say Vbi vnum propter aliud ibi vnum tantum He that serues God onely because hee would bee rich doth not serue God but his riches albeit he performe the outward acts of obedience Or if wee loue a man onely for his affinity with another whom wee dearely loue wee truely and properly loue but the one the other onely by way of reflexion or denomination in such a sense as wee say a man appeares by his proxie that is his proxie appeares not he In like sort beleeuing the sense of Scriptures onely from the supposed authentique declaration of the church or because wee belieue it wee infallibly belieue the Church alone not the Scriptures but onely by an extrinsecall denomination 13 Yet as a man may from some reasons lesse probable haue an opinion of what hee certainely knowes by motiues more sound or as we may loue one in some competent measure for his own sake and yet affect him more entirely for anothers whome wee most dearely loue so may an absolute Papist in some morall sort belieue the Scriptures for themselues or holde their orthodoxall sense as probable to his priuate iudgement albeit hee belieue them most for the Churches sake and that sense best which it commends But this his beliefe of the Church being by their doctrine more then morall or conditionall doth quite ouerthrow all morall or probable beliefe hee can possibly haue from what ground soeuer of scriptures themselues For as I said before when the Church shall determine ought contrary to his preconceiued opinion the more probable or strong it was the more it encreaseth his doubt and makes his contrary resolution more desperate yea more damnable if habituall because 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 extremely contrary to the doctrine
of their vnderstanding changed the glorie of the incorruptible God into the similitude of corruptible things often taxed by meere Philosophers for their grossenesse These blasphemers though professing the worship of the euer-liuing true and only God though partakers of his written word and all the helps his gracious prouidence from time to time hath affoorded for manifestation of it right sense and meaning abuse philosophie wherein they excell with all other gifts of arte and nature to transforme the most essentiall attributes of the diuine nature to turne his truth into lyes his goodnesse into all abomination For hauing this naturall notion in their braine Whatsoeuer God saith is true whatsoeuer he approues most iust and good their next presumptuous assumption is But God saith whatsoeuer the Romish Church or Pope saith ex Cathedra whatsoeuer hee allo●es God allowes the same And this assertion which thus confounds the limits of Gods truth and the Popes that the Christian world cannot discerne one from another once wrought in mens hearts what vntruth or falshood what heresie can be hatched so dangerous what villanie conceiued so abominable but may be presently fathered vpon that holy One from whom proceedes nothing but good Thus may bloudy and prodigious massacres be inuested with the most glorious titles the best of Christs Saints euer enioyed for their best deedes Iust reward for matchlesse impieties that benefit them may bee set forth to the world as the crowne of Martyrdome Finally their gaine is hereby made the measure of goodnesse their pompe and glory the rule of piety and end of euery Christians faith vnto which he must not stick to sacrifice his soule as an Holocauslum euer burning neuer consuming in that brimstone lake If it shall please the Pope to authorize murther though of the Lords annointed God the Sonne must be the chiefe Assasinate to giue power and strength and heauen for the reward vnto the Actor If pleased hee bee to giue way to incest as for the Vnckle to marrie the Niece a fornication not named but with distaste amongst the ancient Heathens I would abhorre to speake it would they bee ashamed to giue iust occasion the holy Ghost must not disdaine to be his Bawd or Pander If disposed to dispense with periurie God the Father must be as his Vassall to suffer disgrace at his appointment to recall the sentence of vengeance which the partie swearing by his name did imprecate vpon his owne head if he relented Though this be the greatest iniurie that can be offered to so great a Maiestie vnto whom execution of iust vengeance properly belongs yet must the Almightie at the Popes appointment bee content to put it vp 6 It is a qualitie in Kings very commendable saith Paulus Quartus Legate and Nephew vnto Henrie of France Religiously to obserue their oathes but when the Popes dignitie comes into danger religion it selfe is in hazard and a preposterous course it were religiously to obserue an oath vnto the ouerthrow of Religion With these and the like suggestions impiously acute did this sweet Cardinal by commission from the Pope his Master authorize and animate this French King to violate the league lately confirmed by solemne oath betwixt him and Philip of Spaine Might hee not as iustly though not so politikely in plaine termes haue told him either you must dishonour God or suffer the Pope to be disgraced choose which you list Doubtlesse in the language of Gods spirit which searcheth the heart hee that dispenseth with an oath of this nature especially solemnely taken is greater then he by whom men sweare and is in heart and deede so esteemed by such as acknowledge his authoritie in thus dispensing or sue vnto him for like dispensations But as if wilfull and open periurie without deepe and hellish hypocrisie were a sinne too plaine and simple for the Man of sinne to countenance the Legate first inuests this besotted Prince with the glorious title of Defensor Ecclesiae Romanae and in witnesse hereof deliuers him a sword consecrated by his Holinesse owne hand ere he make him forsweare himselfe and forsake his God who hath now forsaken him and for his sinne scarce expiated vnto this day plagued the Realme of France For as the iudicious Historian who hath the Articles of this perfidious confederacie yet in his custodie well obserues this was the roote of all the miseries haue since befalne that flourishing Kingdome and by Gods iust iudgements exposed it to the insolencies of the Spaniard through their meanes especially that wrought the King to breach of his oath with Spaine for entring this new confederacie with the Pope 7 Whilest reading this storie I called to minde the perfidious and cruell vsage of that renowned Admirall in the Parisian massacre the treacherous impietie of his politique enemies seemed highly to extoll the wisdome and iustice of his God calling him to suffer his chasticement in this life that hee might not perish with the wicked or such as were impenitent for their former grieuous sinne wherein this worthy Counsellor had in some sort though with griefe yet for the good of others I must vtter it communicated with the Pope and his periured Soueraigne For knowing the breach of peace was fully resolued vpon by the State of France he thought it a point of warlike wisedome to begin with the enemie in his owne Land rather then expect his onset vpon notice of warre proclaimed and faire opportunity as he apprehends it being offered from an insinuating Heremites discouering of the situation and readiest way of expugning Doway he attempts the surprisall of it but preuented of his purpose by an old woman that awaked the Garrison he deemed it a shame to return home with emptie hands though fill them he could not but with iust imputation of being the first that had actually broken the league as afterwards his venerable person was the first vpon whom those perfidious Assasinates and Actors in the Parisian massacre did practice their intended butcherie contrary to the oath and faith which they had giuen him God grant such as in reformed Churches doe most detest be neuer tempted by like opportunities to imitate the wordly policies of the Papacie that all our consultations to preuent their malice may alwayes rellish more of the Doues innocencie and integritie then of the Serpents subtlety 8 He that would accurately obserue the weake supportance of the Roman See at that time when the French could not relieue it how since that time the Popes haue shuffled themselues into the Spaniards fauour to the great preiudice of France who in loue to them had brought it selfe so low may by these moderne stories easily discerne the Papacies aduancement in times past to haue beene wrought by such meanes as our Writers out of ancient records haue deciphered Especially by sowing enmitie betwixt Christian Princes by seeking supportance now from one then from another as seuerall Popes for the most part by-standers
articulerum 〈◊〉 indicium atque desinitio emnium side 〈◊〉 quae vnquam oriri possunt Valent. Tom. 3 in Aquin Disp 1. Quaest 1. Punct 7. in Tit. Puncti The generall obiection of Reformed Churches against the former assertions Respondeo hoc argumentum quod ab haereticis plurimi sit ●otum in aequiuocatione versari nam duobus modis potest intelligi Ecclesiam iudicare de Scripturis Vno modo quod iudicet verumne sit an sassum quod Scripturae docent Alterò modo quod posito vt fundamento certissimo Scripturae verba esse verissima iudicet quae sit vera corum interpretatio Et quidem si primo modo Ecclesia iudicaret verè esset supra Scripturam sed hoc non dicimus quamuis Haeretici calumnientur id nos dicere qui passim vociserantur nos subijcere Scripturam pedibus Papae At secundo modo iudicare Ecclesiam vel Pontificem de Scripturis quod nos asserimus non est Ecclesiam esse supra Scripturam sed supra iudicia priuatorum hominum Non enim iudicat Ecclesia de veritate Scripturae sed de intelligentia tua mea et aliorum Neque hinc sumit verbum Dei abquod robur sed intelligientia nostra Non enim Scriptura est verior aut certior quia sic ab Ecclesia exponitur sed mea seatentia est verior quando ab Ecclesia confirmatur Bellar. de verb. interpret Lib. 3. Cap. 10. Raesp ad 14. Arg. * Vide Chap. 2. Parag. 7. In what sence as impertinēt as true Gods word by Romanists is acknowledged of greater authoritie then the Church * Sacrobos and Valentian both vse the like speeches The Romish racke of conscience Least they might in any doubt goe against their conscience they are taught to beleeue that whatsoeuer the Pope shall command is good and cannot hurt the conscience See the Annotation out of Bellarmine cap. 2. §. 2. * Respondeo verbum Ecclesiae id est Concilij vel Pontificis d●centis ex cathedra non esse ●emnino verbum hominis id est verbum errori obnoxium sed aliquo modo verbum Dei id est si prolatum gubernante assistence spiritu sancto imo dico Haereticos esse qui reuera nitantur baculo arundineo Sciendum est enim propositionem fidei concludi tali Syllogismo Quicquid Deus reuelauit in Scripturis est verum hoc dens reuelauit in Scripturis ergo hoc est verum Ex propositionibus huius Syllogismi prima certa est apud omnes secunda apud Cathelicos est etiam firmissima nititur enim testimonio Ecclesiae Concilij vel Pontificis de quibus habemus in Scripturis apertas promissiones quod errare non possint Actorum 15. Visum est spiritui sancto nobis Et Luc. 22. Regaui pro te vt non deficiat fides tua At apud Haereticos nititur solis coniecturis vel iudicio proprij spiritus qui plerumque videtur bonus est malus Et cum conclusio sequatur deteriorem partem sit necessariò vt tota fides Haereticorum sit coniecturalis incerta Bellar. de verb. Dei interpret Lib. 3. Cap. 10. Resp ad 15. a●g Bellarmines Catholicke Syllogisme wherein all conclusions of faith must be gathered a Act. 15. v. 28. b Luk. 22. v. 32. * Sect. 1. Parag. 1. Seq The first difficultie in their opinion whēce our former cōcl●sion may be deduced * Si volunt Pontificem in rebus alioqui omnino controuersis id est non satis expressè in Ecclesia compertis ac determinatis defi●ire posse vt personam pub●cam errorem re ipsa contra fidem errant ipsi in fide grauissi●è Posset enim imo teneretur tunc Ecclesia vniuersa Pontificem de re controuersa dicentem ac nondum haeresi manifestê notatum pro Pastore suo agnoscere atque adeo ipsum omnino audire Ita fierat vt si tunc errare possit Ecclesia etiam vniuersa possit immo teneretur errare Valentian Tom. 3. de obiect fid Disp 1. Quaest 1. Punct 7. Paragraph 4● Bellarmine for the same grounds Collects that the Pope cannot erre in matters of manners * Vide Librum 2. Sect. 4. Cap 5. Paragraph 14. Nam fides Catholica docet omnem virtutem esse bonā omne vitium esse malum si autem Papa erraret praecipiendo vi tia vel prohibendo virtutes teneretur Ecclesia credere vitia esse bona virtutes malas nisi vellet contra conscientiam peccare Tenetur enim in rebus dubijs Ecclesia acquiescere iudicio summi Pontificis facere quod ille praecipit non facere quod ille prohibet ac ne sorte contra conscientiam agat tenetur credere bonum esse quod ille praecipit malum quod ille prohibet Bellarmine Lib. 4. de Roman Pont. Cap. 5. Wherein the Papists make the Popes authoritie greater then Gods I●h 5. 7. 1 Thess 5. 21. Ioh. 1. Epist 4. The grosse impietie of the Romish Church in binding men to beleeue negatiues without any tollerable exposition of those Scriptures which seeme to contradict her decrees in matters damnable to aduenture vpon without euidence of truth on her part The fearefull dangers whervnto mens soules are exposed by the Trent Councels decree for worshipping the consecrated hoast For to aduenture on such practizes with any scruple or doubt is damnable because contrarie to the Doctrine of saith And yet to enforce a beleefe vpon our selues that Christ is their present without warrant of Scripture is more damnable for this were to affect ignorance for cloaking Idolatrie V de lib. 2. Sect. 1. cap. 7. * De adorand lib. 3. disp 1. c. 5. * The knowne experiments of such Creatures arising from corruption of their consecrated host haue enforced the Schoolemen to inuent new miracles how they should come there Some thinke per creationem nouae materiae prima others that the quantitie of the late deceased consecrated host Supplet locum materi●e primae which is the greatest miracle in the Sacrament as Pererius thinks vide Pere dispu 16. in 6 tom Jobannis S●ares Met. disp 20. § Si quis dixerit in sancto Eucharistiae Sacramento Christum vnigenitum Dei filium non esse cultulatriae etiam externo ad orandum alque ideo nec festiua peculiari celebritate venerandum neque in proc●ssionibus secuudum laudabilem vniuersalem Ecclesiae sanctae ritum consuetudinem solemniter circumgestandum vel non publicè vt adoretur populo proponendum eius adoratores esse Idololatras anathema sit Concil Trid. Sess 13. Can. 6. * The impious decree of the Trent Councell for communicating in one kind against the expresse Commandement of Christ the practise of his Apostles and the Primitiue Church a Session 21. 20. * Erant autem sub Arriana secta viuentes quia consuetudo eorum est vt ad Altarium venientes de alio calice Reges communicent de alio