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insist_v and_o never_o yet_o have_v have_v any_o such_o ground_n offer_v to_o we_o as_o may_v in_o some_o measure_n appear_v by_o the_o view_n of_o that_o controversy_n as_o it_o lie_v visible_a in_o the_o book_n entitle_v the_o view_n of_o infallibility_n num._n 34_o as_o for_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o reason_n on_o the_o protestant_n side_n by_o uncertainty_n meaning_n fallibility_n and_o the_o potest_fw-la subesse_fw-la falsum_fw-la while_o yet_o we_o be_v without_o doubt_v very_o persuade_v that_o our_o reason_n have_v force_n in_o they_o that_o can_v make_v it_o possible_a for_o we_o to_o believe_v what_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v or_o lawful_a upon_o any_o the_o fair_a intuition_n to_o profess_v contrary_a to_o our_o belief_n i_o believe_v that_o henry_n viii_o be_v king_n of_o this_o nation_n and_o the_o reason_n on_o which_o i_o believe_v it_o be_v the_o testimony_n of_o mere_a man_n and_o so_o fallible_a yet_o the_o bare_a fallibility_n of_o those_o testimony_n can_v 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be_v make_v from_o my_o do_v that_o slight_o which_o i_o do_v not_o meddle_v with_o at_o all_o but_o then_o 3._o to_o remove_v all_o scruple_n or_o possible_a occasion_n of_o jealousy_n in_o this_o matter_n it_o be_v the_o design_n of_o chapter_n 8._o the_o method_n then_o lead_v to_o it_o under_o a_o second_o sort_n of_o schism_n to_o consider_v the_o departure_n from_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o faith_n which_o be_v but_o a_o periphrasis_n of_o heresy_n be_v consequent_o the_o define_n all_o heresy_n be_v schism_n and_o so_o the_o profess_a avow_v of_o that_o which_o he_o suspect_v i_o unwilling_a to_o have_v understand_v and_o so_o still_o there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o appearance_n of_o justice_n in_o this_o suggestion_n sect._n ii_o excommunication_n how_o it_o differ_v from_o schism_n wilful_a continuance_n under_o censure_n be_v schism_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o our_o lawful_a governor_n the_o severe_a condition_n of_o their_o communion_n num._n 1_o his_o second_o exception_n be_v perfect_o of_o the_o same_o make_n with_o the_o former_a thus_o num._n 2_o again_o say_v he_o treat_v of_o excommunication_n he_o easy_o slide_v over_o this_o part_n that_o wilful_a continuance_n in_o a_o just_a excommunication_n make_v schism_n num._n 3_o here_o again_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o i_o treat_v not_o of_o excommunication_n nor_o have_v any_o occasion_n fit_o to_o treat_v of_o it_o far_o than_o to_o show_v that_o schism_n be_v a_o voluntary_a separation_n the_o word_n in_o no_o propriety_n pertain_v to_o that_o act_n of_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n whereby_o he_o separate_v or_o cut_v off_o any_o by_o way_n of_o censure_n certain_o he_o that_o be_v put_v to_o death_n by_o sentence_n of_o law_n can_v be_v judge_v a_o felo_fw-la de_fw-fr se_fw-la one_o that_o have_v voluntary_o put_v himself_o out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o live_n or_o be_v liable_a to_o those_o forfeiture_n which_o by_o the_o law_n belong_v to_o such_o he_o that_o be_v banish_v out_o of_o the_o kingdom_n can_v be_v guilty_a of_o the_o breach_n of_o that_o statute_n which_o forbid_v all_o subject_n go_v out_o of_o it_o nor_o be_v punish_v just_o for_o that_o which_o be_v his_o suffering_n not_o his_o deed_n his_o punishment_n not_o his_o delinquency_n num._n 4_o as_o for_o his_o wilful_a continuance_n under_o just_a censure_n the_o wilfulness_n of_o that_o certain_o make_v he_o culpable_a and_o the_o continuance_n in_o excommunication_n be_v also_o continuance_n in_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n which_o be_v schism_n whensoever_o it_o be_v voluntary_a i_o make_v no_o doubt_n of_o the_o consequence_n that_o such_o wilful_a continuance_n in_o excommunication_n be_v it_o just_a or_o unjust_a be_v actual_a schism_n suppose_v as_o the_o word_n wilful_a must_v suppose_v that_o this_o continuance_n be_v whole_o imputable_a to_o the_o will_n of_o the_o excommunicate_a i._n e._n that_o if_o he_o will_v submit_v to_o that_o which_o be_v lawful_a for_o he_o to_o submit_v to_o he_o may_v be_v absolve_v and_o free_v from_o it_o num._n 5_o if_o this_o be_v it_o that_o he_o will_v have_v have_v more_o explicit_o affirm_v than_o i_o answer_v that_o as_o there_o i_o have_v no_o occasion_n to_o speak_v to_o it_o so_o now_o upon_o his_o slight_a demand_n i_o make_v no_o scruple_n to_o give_v he_o my_o full_a sense_n of_o it_o that_o he_o which_o be_v cast_v into_o prison_n for_o just_a cause_n may_v upon_o his_o petition_n and_o promise_v of_o reformation_n be_v release_v or_o if_o the_o cause_n be_v unjust_a may_v yet_o without_o do_v any_o thing_n any_o way_n unlawful_a regain_v his_o liberty_n from_o thenceforth_o become_v not_o the_o magistrate_n but_o his_o own_o prisoner_n and_o be_v guilty_a of_o all_o the_o damage_n be_v it_o disease_n famish_v death_n itself_o which_o be_v consequent_a to_o his_o imprisonment_n and_o the_o analogy_n hold_v direct_o in_o excommunication_n he_o that_o continue_v under_o the_o censure_n of_o his_o ecclesiastical_a ruler_n when_o he_o may_v fair_o obtain_v absolution_n from_o they_o be_v by_o himself_o sentence_v to_o the_o continuance_n of_o this_o punishment_n as_o by_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n to_o the_o begin_n of_o it_o but_o then_o all_o this_o while_n this_o be_v not_o the_o condition_n of_o our_o church_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n they_o be_v not_o our_o lawful_a superior_n endue_v with_o jurisdiction_n over_o we_o and_o for_o other_o communion_n such_o as_o alone_o can_v be_v maintain_v or_o break_v among_o fellow-brethren_n or_o christian_n it_o be_v careful_o maintain_v by_o we_o as_o far_o as_o it_o be_v lawful_o maintainable_a num._n 6_o and_o both_o these_o be_v there_o evidence_v in_o that_o and_o the_o ensue_a chapter_n i_o do_v not_o wary_o or_o purposely_o abstain_v from_o because_o i_o have_v nothing_o that_o suggest_v to_o i_o any_o opportunity_n of_o say_v any_o thing_n more_o to_o this_o purpose_n the_o severe_a condition_n which_o be_v by_o the_o romanist_n require_v of_o we_o to_o render_v we_o capable_a of_o their_o communion_n subscription_n of_o error_n or_o profession_n against_o conscience_n make_v it_o impertinent_a to_o propose_v or_o discuss_v either_o of_o these_o two_o question_n 1._o whether_o we_o lie_v under_o a_o just_a excommunication_n 2._o whether_o if_o we_o do_v we_o will_v wilful_o continue_v under_o it_o or_o consequent_o whether_o we_o be_v now_o guilty_a of_o schism_n in_o this_o notion_n sect._n iii_o mr._n knot_n concession_n and_o conclusion_n the_o power_n of_o a_o fallible_a church_n to_o require_v belief_n of_o antiquity_n possession_n persuasion_n of_o infallibility_n motive_n for_o union_n uncertainty_n of_o the_o protestant_n reason_n the_o grand_a heresy_n and_o schism_n of_o not_o believe_v rome_n infallible_a belief_n sufficient_a without_o infallibility_n fiction_n of_o case_n num._n 1_o the_o three_o exception_n enlarge_v to_o some_o length_n in_o these_o word_n num._n 2_o what_o he_o call_v master_n knot_n concession_n i_o take_v to_o be_v the_o public_a profession_n of_o the_o roman_a or_o catholic_a church_n and_o that_o nature_n itself_o teach_v all_o rational_a man_n that_o any_o congregation_n that_o can_v lie_v and_o know_v not_o whether_o it_o do_v lie_v or_o no_o in_o any_o proposition_n can_v have_v power_n to_o bind_v any_o particular_a to_o believe_v what_o she_o say_v neither_o can_v any_o man_n of_o understanding_n have_v a_o obligation_n to_o believe_v what_o she_o teach_v far_o than_o agree_v with_o the_o rule_n of_o his_o own_o reason_n out_o of_o which_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n bind_v of_o man_n to_o a_o profession_n of_o faith_n which_o the_o protestant_n and_o other_o haereticall_a multitude_n have_v likewise_o usurp_v if_o she_o be_v infallible_a be_v evident_o gentle_a charitable_a right_a and_o necessary_a as_o contrariwise_o in_o any_o other_o church_n or_o congregation_n which_o pretend_v not_o to_o infallibility_n the_o same_o be_v unjust_a tyrannical_a and_o a_o selfe-condemnation_n to_o the_o binder_n so_o that_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n will_v be_v this_o whether_o the_o catholic_n or_o roman_a church_n be_v infallible_a or_o no_o for_o she_o pretend_v not_o to_o bind_v any_o man_n to_o tenet_n or_o belief_n upon_o any_o other_o ground_n or_o title_n by_o this_o you_o may_v perceive_v much_o of_o his_o discourse_n to_o be_v not_o only_o superfluous_a and_o unnecessary_a but_o also_o contrary_a to_o himself_o for_o he_o labour_v to_o persuade_v that_o the_o protestant_n may_v be_v certain_a of_o some_o truth_n against_o which_o the_o roman_n catholic_n church_n bind_v to_o profession_n of_o error_n which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v as_o he_o who_o pretend_v to_o have_v no_o infallible_a rule_n by_o which_o to_o govern_v his_o doctrine_n shall_v be_v suppose_v to_o be_v infallible_a and_o he_o that_o pretend_v to_o have_v a_o infallible_a rule_n shall_v be_v suppose_v to_o be_v fallible_a at_o most_o because_o fallible_a objection_n be_v bring_v against_o he_o now_o then_o consider_v what_o a_o meek_a and_o humble_a son_n of_o the_o church_n ought_v to_o do_v when_o of_o the_o one_o side_n be_v the_o authority_n of_o antiquity_n and_o possession_n such_o antiquity_n and_o possession_n without_o dispute_n or_o contradiction_n from_o the_o adversary_n as_o no_o king_n can_v show_v for_o his_o crown_n and_o much_o less_o any_o other_o person_n or_o person_n for_o any_o other_o thing_n the_o persuasion_n of_o infallibility_n all_o the_o pledge_n that_o christ_n have_v leave_v to_o his_o church_n for_o motive_n of_o union_n on_o the_o other_o side_n uncertain_a reason_n of_o a_o few_o man_n pretend_v to_o learning_n every_o day_n contradict_v by_o incomparable_a number_n of_o man_n wise_a and_o learned_a and_o those_o few_o man_n confess_v those_o reason_n and_o themselves_o uncertain_a fallible_a and_o subject_a to_o
be_v deceive_v and_o there_o i_o acknowledge_v infallibility_n upon_o this_o ground_n whether_o of_o nature_n or_o of_o grace_n of_o common_a dictate_v or_o of_o religion_n that_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o god_n to_o lie_v to_o deceive_v or_o to_o be_v deceive_v but_o that_o the_o whole_a canon_n of_o scripture_n as_o it_o be_v deliver_v to_o we_o by_o the_o laodicean_n council_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n though_o i_o full_o believe_v this_o also_o and_o have_v not_o the_o least_o doubt_n to_o any_o part_n of_o it_o yet_o i_o account_v not_o myself_o infallible_a in_o this_o belief_n nor_o can_v any_o church_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o unless_o they_o be_v otherwise_o privilege_v by_o god_n be_v infallible_a in_o affirm_v it_o nor_o any_o that_o believe_v that_o church_n be_v infallible_a in_o their_o belief_n and_o as_o that_o privilege_n be_v not_o yet_o prove_v by_o any_o donation_n of_o god_n to_o belong_v to_o any_o church_n particular_o to_o the_o roman_a so_o till_o it_o be_v prove_v and_o prove_v infallible_o it_o can_v be_v no_o competent_a medium_n to_o induce_v any_o new_a act_n of_o infallible_a belief_n the_o want_n of_o which_o may_v denominate_v we_o either_o heretic_n or_o schismatics_n num._n 40_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n this_o be_v certain_a that_o i_o that_o do_v not_o pretend_v to_o believe_v any_o thing_n infallible_o in_o this_o matter_n not_o so_o much_o as_o that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o infallible_a must_v yet_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o believe_v her_o fallible_a or_o else_o i_o can_v not_o by_o this_o gentleman_n be_v adjudge_v a_o schismatic_a for_o so_o believe_v and_o then_o this_o suppose_v that_o i_o may_v believe_v what_o in_o his_o opinion_n i_o believe_v untrue_o that_o sure_o be_v that_o i_o may_v believe_v what_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v infallible_o the_o matter_n be_v visible_a i_o can_v think_v fit_a to_o enlarge_v on_o it_o num._n 41_o one_o thing_n only_o i_o must_v far_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o ground_n which_o he_o here_o have_v on_o which_o he_o find_v his_o exception_n against_o the_o solidity_n of_o my_o discourse_n call_v it_o my_o great_a evidence_n that_o we_o that_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v infallible_a may_v be_v allow_v to_o make_v certain_a supposition_n that_o follow_v there_o num._n 42_o the_o matter_n in_o that_o place_n chap._n ii_o sect._n 12._o lie_n thus_o in_o examine_v the_o nature_n of_o schism_n i_o have_v occasion_n to_o mention_v one_o not_o real_a but_o fiction_n of_o case_n suppose_v first_o that_o our_o ancestor_n have_v criminous_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o suppose_v second_o that_o we_o their_o posterity_n repent_v and_o desire_v to_o reform_v their_o sin_n and_o to_o be_v reunite_v to_o they_o yet_o suppose_v three_o that_o they_o shall_v require_v to_o our_o reunion_n any_o condition_n which_o be_v unlawful_a for_o we_o to_o perform_v in_o this_o conjuncture_n i_o say_v we_o can_v not_o just_o be_v charge_v for_o continue_v that_o separation_n num._n 43_o this_o fiction_n of_o case_n i_o can_v not_o think_v have_v any_o weak_a part_n in_o it_o for_o as_o it_o suppose_v that_o on_o one_o side_n which_o i_o know_v a_o romanist_n will_v not_o grant_v viz_o that_o they_o shall_v require_v any_o condition_n unlawful_a for_o we_o to_o perform_v so_o it_o suppose_v on_o the_o other_o side_n that_o which_o we_o can_v no_o way_n grant_v viz_o that_o our_o ancestor_n criminous_o separate_v but_o this_o i_o know_v be_v ordinary_a to_o be_v do_v in_o fiction_n of_o case_n suppositio_fw-la non_fw-la ponit_fw-la be_v the_o acknowledge_a rule_n my_o suppose_v either_o of_o these_o be_v not_o the_o take_v they_o for_o grant_v and_o yet_o after_o all_o this_o i_o foresee_v that_o objection_n that_o the_o romanist_n who_o acknowledge_v not_o any_o such_o hard_a condition_n require_v to_o our_o reconciliation_n will_v conceive_v this_o a_o impossible_a case_n and_o to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o we_o that_o acknowledge_v not_o their_o church_n to_o be_v infallible_a may_v be_v allow_v to_o make_v a_o supposition_n mean_v as_o before_o a_o fiction_n of_o case_n which_o be_v found_v in_o the_o possibility_n of_o her_o insert_v some_o error_n in_o her_o confession_n and_o make_v the_o acknowledgement_n of_o it_o the_o indispensable_a condition_n of_o her_o communion_n what_o i_o have_v offend_v herein_o i_o can_v imagine_v for_o 1._o i_o only_o set_v a_o fiction_n of_o case_n do_v not_o take_v their_o infallibility_n for_o a_o thing_n confest_o false_a nor_o in_o that_o place_n so_o much_o as_o dispute_v against_o it_o only_o i_o say_v that_o which_o be_v sufficient_o know_v before_o i_o say_v it_o that_o their_o infallibility_n be_v not_o acknowledge_v by_o we_o and_o so_o that_o her_o insert_v some_o error_n in_o her_o confession_n be_v to_o we_o i_o e._n in_o our_o opinion_n a_o thing_n possible_a and_o so_o for_o disputation_n sake_n supposable_a in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o i_o suppose_v that_o which_o i_o be_o know_v not_o to_o believe_v and_o if_o this_o gentleman_n be_v thus_o severe_a i_o shall_v despair_v to_o approve_v my_o discourse_n to_o he_o num._n 44_o second_o that_o i_o make_v it_o my_o great_a evidence_n be_v not_o with_o any_o appearance_n of_o reason_n suggest_v by_o he_o it_o come_v in_o mere_o as_o a_o incidentall_a last_o branch_n the_o least_o necessary_a most_o unconsiderable_a of_o any_o and_o that_o which_o may_v have_v be_v spare_v then_o or_o leave_v out_o now_o without_o any_o weaken_n of_o or_o disturb_v the_o discourse_n num._n 45_o three_o whereas_o he_o add_v that_o i_o proceed_v to_o make_v certain_a supposition_n that_o follow_v there_o this_o be_v still_o of_o the_o same_o strain_n i_o make_v but_o one_o supposition_n viz_o in_o case_n she_o make_v any_o unlawful_a act_n the_o indispensable_a condition_n of_o her_o communion_n and_o that_o one_o certain_o be_v not_o in_o the_o plural_a more_o or_o indefinite_o certain_a supposition_n num._n 46_o that_o i_o put_v this_o one_o case_n as_o possible_a and_o then_o proceed_v to_o consider_v what_o be_v by_o the_o principle_n acknowledge_v by_o all_o particular_o by_o mr._n knot_n to_o be_v do_v in_o that_o one_o case_n be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o strict_a law_n of_o discourse_n which_o i_o have_v meet_v with_o and_o if_o in_o compliance_n with_o this_o gentleman_n i_o must_v deny_v myself_o such_o liberty_n and_o yet_o yield_v he_o so_o much_o great_a on_o the_o other_o side_n if_o i_o must_v at_o the_o begin_n of_o a_o defence_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v require_v to_o grant_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n infallible_a i._n e._n to_o yield_v not_o only_o that_o she_o speak_v all_o truth_n but_o also_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a she_o shall_v speak_v any_o thing_n but_o truth_n who_o yet_o by_o enter_v on_o this_o theme_n i_o undertake_v to_o contradict_v and_o to_o prove_v injurious_a in_o censure_v we_o for_o schismatic_n this_o be_v as_o i_o have_v say_v a_o hard_a task_n indeed_o the_o very_a same_o as_o if_o i_o be_v require_v to_o begin_v a_o duel_n by_o present_v and_o deliver_v up_o all_o weapon_n into_o the_o enemy_n hand_n to_o plead_v a_o cause_n and_o introduce_v my_o defence_n by_o confess_v myself_o guilty_a of_o all_o that_o the_o plaintiff_n do_v or_o can_v have_v the_o confidence_n to_o charge_v upon_o i_o num._n 47_o and_o if_o these_o be_v the_o condition_n of_o a_o dispute_n these_o will_v questionless_a be_v hard_a whatsoever_o the_o condition_n of_o our_o reunion_n be_v conceive_v to_o be_v and_o moreover_o this_o gentleman_n will_v be_v as_o infallible_a as_o his_o church_n and_o then_o it_o be_v pity_n he_o shall_v lavish_a out_o medicine_n that_o be_v so_o secure_v by_o charm_n that_o he_o shall_v defend_v his_o cause_n by_o reason_n which_o have_v this_o one_o so_o much_o cheap_a expedient_a to_o answer_v a_o whole_a book_n in_o one_o period_n num._n 48_o and_o so_o 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this_o ordination_n of_o ignatius_n be_v also_o say_v by_o 〈◊〉_d theodore_n and_o by_o zenon_n felix_n iii_o bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o have_v be_v do_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o saint_n peter_n this_o seem_a difference_n be_v remove_v by_o 10._o joannes_n malela_n antiochenus_fw-la who_o thus_o set_v down_o the_o whole_a matter_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d when_o peter_n go_v to_o rome_n pass_v by_o antioch_n the_o great_a euodius_n bishop_n and_o patriarch_n of_o antioch_n happen_v to_o die_v and_o ignatius_n who_o be_v as_o be_v say_v first_o constitute_v by_o s._n paul_n over_o the_o gentile_n there_o receive_v the_o bishopric_n that_o i_o suppose_v must_v now_o be_v of_o the_o jewish_a province_n also_o over_o which_o euodius_n have_v be_v in_o his_o life_n time_n s._n peter_n ordain_v and_o enthron_v he_o and_o so_o that_o be_v become_v most_o clear_a which_o ignat_fw-la s._n chrysostome_n say_v of_o this_o ignatius_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n the_o hand_n 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