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A35717	Truth-triumphant in a dialogue between a Papist and a Quaker : wherein (I suppose) is made manifest, that quaking is the off-spring of popery : at least, the Papist and the Quaker, are (fratres uterini) both of one venter.	Derby, Charles Stanley, Earl of, 1628-1672.	1671 (1671)	Wing D1090B; ESTC R16515	10,629	18

I was before 1641. Pap. By no means do so either come strait to Us or continue a Quaker Nay rather than turn Protestant I 'le get thee a Dispensation from Rome to continue a Quaker and that thou shalt not so much as go into Purgatory Quak. Yours is a very brave Religion if it could hold water but what assurance have you that God allows this Pap. The Infallibility of the Church Quak. What is that Pap. The truth is we are not yet agreed amongst Our selves for some of Us as we Jesuites do hold the Pope to be Infallible that whatsoever He Decrees We are obliged to yield unto an implicite obedience and Belief others do place it in a General Council the Pope presiding over it And lastly others in a Council only Protestant And so I perceive it 's no where with you with us it is for now I will argue like a Protestant we have Infallibility in our Church Papist What is that Prot. The Old and New Testament for you cannot deny it to be the Word of God Papist That we cannot but this we say That it is but a dead Letter without the Interpretation of the Church Prot. Whoop holy day I think your Worship will turn Quaker Papist No such thing I warrant you but to proceed and to speak to you as to a Protestant All your Opposers produce the Bible against you as well as against us What can you answer to that Prot. Let right take place but by the way this is foul play for you to urge me to answer you as a Hydra with so many Heads Will you be a Papist a Presbyterian Independent Quaker and every thing at once This is to be a right Jesuite indeed but I will allow you all this advantage I will therefore go on as I said before let right take place for the Church of England has the advantage over all her Opposers above-mentioned and over ten thousand more if she had so many for against you all she has a claim to this Infallible Guide of the Word of God with all the difficulties therein contained explained by all Antient Fathers and Councils against which no sober man can except So that we have the Bible against you and against them and against you we have the Bible as I said before explained with the four first General Councils with the Practice of those times of Purity besides is it not familiar with you of the Roman Church together with all those several enemies above-named and Opposers of the Church of England to cry up Success and may not Protestants make use of the same Plea so far especially as it is Argumentum ad hominem And so offer to your prospect and consideration the miraculous Restauration of the Church of England in the year 1660. Papist You mean the Kings Restauration Prot. I mean both but we are now disputing concerning the Church not King of England for though you as being a Papist a Priest and a Jesuite are an Enemy to both Church and State But the reason I only name the Church of Englands Restauration is because I conceive God restored the King for the Churches sake because God knew the King would restore the Church of England for whose sake God did restore him Moreover I mention the Church of England only because God has dealt so often miraculously for her As first in our King Henry the Eighth his dayes that such an occasion of Scandal should be given to the whole World as well as to that King in particular that though he did not so very much alter the Roman Religion yet he absolutely took away the Popes Authority which was a miraculous step to that more exact Reformation Which in the second place God did miraculously bring to pass by means of a Child as I may say King Edward the Sixth The third Miracle God did act for the Church of England was that Queen Mary Espoused to a King of Spain having fully restored Popery and butchered thousands of Protestants yet The miracu●ous methods ●f God on the ●ehalf of Eng●and during se●e●al Successi●ns of time was it not in her power though assisted with the House of Austria which was then in its Zenith as I suppose now France is to prevent the wonderfully miraculous Restauration of the Church of England by the ever famous Queen Elizabeth and though that Good and Gallant Queen was in the hands of Her and the Church of Englands Adversaries yet did God miraculously preserve Her for his Churches sake And this Church was likewise in the fourth place though indeed not restored yet powerfully and wonderfully preserved when King James Succeeded to this great and virtuous Queen The last Miracle I pray God this Church may need no more of them which it pleased God to shew this Church was in the Year Sixty though indeed three more might have been added so as to have made this fifth the eighth but for brevities sake I shall put them together First the Defeat of that Navy which the Spaniards called their Invincible Armad● in the Year 1588. Secondly the miraculous prevention of the Popish Conspiracy the fifth day of November whereby the King His Nobles the chief of the Gentry and Commons in Parliament should have been blown up The third the true Christian Valour and Magnanimity which appeared in his Late Majesty on the behalf of the Church of England asserting her Reformation during all His Sufferings to the last minute of his Martyrdom And now Sir I hope I have confuted you by your own way of Argumentation and now Sir hereafter if you please you may worship your great Diana of Success Papist Your Successes we cannot deny but still I conceive the Bible is not a sufficient Infallible Guide Prot. I think I have very well proved by the several above-mentioned miracles that Infallibility of the Bible is for the Church of England as now it is established this Year 1668. Jul. against your and all other Dissenters from the Church of England and in my opinion is a great sign of her being a true Church that she is furnished on all sides with good and sound Arguments for her defence and offending her Adversaries for in the first she opposes to you the Bible Practice of the Primitive Church the Antient Fathers and your own modern ones and against such as I was once formerly She has the same though She have less occasion to make use of the Bible Thus is she furnisht with complete Armour and Weapons God Almighty has armed Her Cap ape against the Devil and all his Instruments So that the Gates of Hell shall never be able to prevail against Her Papist You have taken your Common-Prayer-Book out of the Mass Prot. You have your Mass out of the Jewish Liturgy Papist How can that be Prot. Are not the Psalms of David made use of in the Mass Papist They are I confess Prot. They were either all or in part the Jewish Liturgy Papist We do

had not bowed to him nor Kissed him being as invisible as to outward prosperity as those 7000. in the days of Elias But when the time came for the appearance of those glorious Reformers of Religion and manners according to Gods appointment for to this God alone as it is in the Acts of the Holy Apostles Cap. 1. Ver. 7. The Times and the Seasons the Father hath put into his own Hands then did that wicked one this Roman Baal begin to be revealed whom the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of his Mouth and abolish with the brightness of his coming Ver. 8. The 9. Ver. is applicable to your Baal in your false Miracles Signs and Lying wonders whereby you lie in wait to deceive the Ignorant and simple This person must be consumed and abolished even him as it is Ver. 9. whose coming is by the effectual working of Satan with all Power the Inquisition and their visible pretended infallibility and Signs and lying Wonders And God knows with such Signs and lying Wonders false Miracles c. Your Church is sufficiently fraught Ver. 11. is the consequence of the former recited Verses 8 9 and therefore God shall send them strong delusions that they shall believe Lies and this is verified every day that many among You otherwise Learned and wise enough do give themselves up to these strong delusions giving as great credit to your Legends as the Fables of one Winifred c. as to the Gospel it self I could add upon this Subject but I suppose what I have already said is sufficient to evidence unto you the Errors of Your ways and the Truth of Ours Papist I confess I am very much shaken by your Arguments and the next time we meet you may possibly obtain an entire Conquest over me Protest I am very glad it is come to this which is a kind of new Creation in us God having thus produced Light out of Darkness You having thus contrary to your intent sent me into the Bosome of the Church of England whereinto I hope you will likewise throw your self whereby we shall not be half but whole Brothers having one Father which is God one Mother the Church of England Jesus Christ the Saviour of the World being our Elder Brother In this confidence I dare call you Brother and Dear Brother fare you well for this time The CONCLUSION THe Dialogue thus finished I think it not amiss to say something concerning the first General Council that ever was in the Church of Christ you have the whole Story of it in the 15 Chap. of the Acts of the Holy Apostles I shall take notice that it was not called by the particular direction of any of the Apostles but that all of them did concur thereunto and this was doubtless the Method of the Christian Church during it's greatest Purity and Integrity and the truth is no other way could be used while the Church of Christ was under Persecution but in process of time when supreme powers did receive and protect the Christian Faith and that as the Scripture saith Kings and Queens were Nursing Fathers and Nursing Mothers of the Spouse of Christ then were general Councils summon'd by them and by them were these Councils left to their free Debates and determinations whose Decrees were afterwards confirm'd by the Supreme Authorities whereby those Decrees which before such a Confirmation did only oblige the Conscience had then the Coercive Power of the State to compell their Observation and this Method did continue till the Usurpation of the Bishop of Rome upon all Powers both Civil and Ecclesiastical for he now takes upon him to assume unto himself the power of calling Councils of presiding in them and Confirming their Decrees saying that without His Confirmation they are invalid Thus does he make his own Will to be of more Authority than a General Council and this same Will of his to be Superior to all Supreme Powers and Authorities whatsoever But I shall add no more upon this Subject but proceed to what I at first proposed in the beginning hereof where I shall take notice of some things in the 15 th Chap. of the Acts of the Holy Apostles where we reade of the first General Council that ever was in the Church of Christ and therefore most likely to be a direction for all others It was occasioned by an Appeal made by some Converte● Gentiles to this General Council for some Pharisaical Christians would impose upon these Converted Gentiles the whole Law of Moses therefore to this General Council they do appeal the words of the Council are these Ver. 23. of this 15. Chap. The Apostles and Elders and Brethren send Greeting unto the Brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia 24. Forasmuch as We have heard that certain which went out from Us have troubled You with Words subverting Your Souls saying Ye must be Circumcised and keep the Law to whom We gave no such Commandment 25. It seemed good unto Us being Assembled with one accord to send chosen Men unto You with Our beloved Barnabas and Paul 26. Men that have hazarded their Lives for the Name of Our Lord Jesus Christ 27. We have sent therefore Judas and Silas who shall also tell you the same things by word of mouth 28. For it seemed good to the Holy-Ghost and to Us to lay upon You no greater Burthen than these necessary things 29. That Ye abstain from Meats offered to Idols and from Blood and from things Strangled and from Fornication from which if ye keep your selves ye shall do well fare ye well These be the words together We shall now take them into parts The Apostles and Elders and Brethren There is no Primacy in St. Peter or in any body else either first as to calling this Council or Secondly In degree it self or Thirdly by way of Confirming this Decree of the Council Apostles Elders and Brethren are all alike concerned Send Greeting unto the Brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch Syria and Cilicia Now here I cannot but take notice that the Church of Jerusalem treats the Churches of Antioch c. not with a Maternal but a Fraternal Appellation not like the Church of Rome certainly if ever any had been the Mother-Church it must have been that of Jerusalem St. Peter and all the rest of the Apostles yea even a General Council there residing which makes her self the Mother-Church and all others she will have to be esteemed but Her Children and yet in this General Council St. Peter was present as appears by the 7. Verse of this 15. Chap. and yet St. Peter does not pronounce any Judgment contenting himself rather with relating matter of Fact and Paul and Barnabas do the same as it is Ver. 11. But the Apostle St. James proceeds further in Ver. 13 14 15 16 17 18. and in the 19. Ver. is very bold saying Wherefore my sentence is that we trouble not them which from among the Gentiles are turned to God and Ver. 20. He proceeds But that we here St. James is equal with St. Peter or any of the rest write unto them that they abstain from pollutions of Idols and from Fornication and from things strangled and from Blood And to this Sentence of St. James the whole Council acquiesces not any one speaking after St. James Forasmuch as certain which went out from Us have troubled you with words subverting your Souls saying Ye must be Circumcised and keep the Law to whom We not St. Peter alone gave no such Commandment it seemed good unto Us being assembled with one accord This Council you see was not called by St. Peter alone to send chosen men unto You with our beloved Barnabas and Paul Men that have hazarded their Lives for the Name of Our Lord Jesus Christ We have sent therefore Judas and Silas who shall also tell you the same things by word of Mouth for it seemed good to the Holy-Ghost and to Us you see the Holy-Ghost is not tyed to St. Peter's or the Pope's Chair nor the Colledg of Cardinals but remaining with the General Council To lay upon you no heavier burthen than these necessary things that ye abstain from Meats offer'd to Idols from Blood and from things strangled and from Fornication all this the Sentence of and Opinion of St. James delivered to the Council and thus approved of by the Council from which if ye keep your selves ye shall do well fare ye well I have thus run over the words of this first General Council with some few Animadversions thereon and if therein I have done the Church of Christ any Service I have my aim and do retun unto him all Honour and Glory for His assistance herein by whom I have been hereunto enabled To the Holy Trinity Father Son and Holy-Ghost be all Honour and Glory now and for ever Amen FINIS