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A88107 The nevv quere, and determination upon it, by Mr. Saltmarsh lately published, to retard the establishment of the Presbyteriall government, examined, and shewed to be unseasonable, unsound, and opposite to the principles of true religion, and state. Whereunto is annexed a censure of what he hath produced to the same purpose, in his other, and later booke, which he calleth The opening of Master Prinnes Vindication. And an apologeticall narrative of the late petition of the Common Councell and ministers of London to the Honourable Houses of Parliament, with a justification of them from the calumny of the weekly pamphleters. / By John Ley, one of the Assembly of Divines at Westminster. Ley, John, 1583-1662. 1645 (1645) Wing L1885; Thomason E311_24; ESTC R200462 96,520 124

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magistracle_n p._n 51._o sect._n xvi_o the_o objection_n of_o eager_a contestation_n for_o church_n discipline_n and_o 〈…〉_o p._n 53._o sect._n xvii_o the_o objection_n of_o inefficacie_n for_o holiness_n of_o life_n in_o such_o as_o live_v under_o the_o presbytery_n answer_v p._n 57_o sect._n xviii_o show_v what_o may_v be_v retort_v upon_o the_o antipresbyteriall_a party_n but_o conclude_v for_o unity_n and_o peace_n with_o allegation_n of_o m._n burrough_n his_o proposition_n of_o reconciliation_n and_o accord_n and_o some_o other_o particular_n tend_v thereto_o p._n 61._o sect._n xix_o further_a ground_n and_o hope_n of_o union_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o sister_n kingdom_n of_o england_n and_o scotland_n with_o answer_n to_o the_o objection_n that_o be_v make_v against_o it_o p._n 64._o sect._n xx._n a_o appendix_n to_o the_o precedent_a examination_n be_v a_o apologetical_a narrative_n of_o the_o petition_n of_o the_o common_a council_n of_o the_o city_n and_o minister_n of_o london_n present_v to_o both_o the_o
of_o some_o dangerous_a consequence_n that_o the_o power_n shall_v be_v put_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o minister_n whereas_o minister_n put_v in_o for_o no_o more_o power_n as_o their_o due_n either_o from_o the_o magistrate_n or_o over_o the_o people_n then_o be_v consonant_n to_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o principle_n of_o prudence_n and_o if_o less_o than_o that_o be_v allow_v they_o since_o it_o be_v from_o god_n and_o for_o god_n not_o for_o themselves_o god_n rather_o than_o they_o will_v be_v unworthy_o deal_v withal_o and_o if_o it_o be_v common_o desire_v as_o he_o say_v it_o be_v the_o less_o liable_a to_o he_o or_o any_o man_n exception_n hereto_o have_v put_v his_o name_n which_o to_o i_o be_v of_o a_o savoury_a relish_n by_o what_o i_o have_v taste_v of_o his_o other_o write_n he_o close_v up_o his_o title_n page_n with_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o apostle_n 2_o cor._n 10.8_o in_o these_o word_n our_o authority_n which_o the_o lord_n have_v give_v we_o for_o instruction_n not_o for_o destruction_n the_o ordinary_a read_n or_o render_v of_o the_o original_a word_n according_a to_o the_o literal_a sense_n be_v edification_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o he_o refuse_v that_o and_o take_v the_o word_n instruction_n which_o be_v metaphorical_a either_o because_o he_o think_v the_o paranomasia_n more_o pleasant_a to_o the_o reader_n or_o less_o profitable_a for_o the_o minister_n claim_v to_o church-government_n for_o edification_n import_v more_o power_n than_o instruction_n do_v and_o he_o think_v there_o will_v have_v be_v too_o strong_a a_o intimation_n of_o authority_n in_o the_o first_o substantive_a of_o his_o quotation_n if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v allay_v with_o a_o weak_a word_n than_o the_o grammatical_a construction_n bring_v with_o it_o and_o for_o the_o other_o word_n destruction_n if_o it_o be_v take_v in_o a_o symbolical_a sense_n to_o his_o resolution_n of_o the_o quere_z it_o impli_v two_o thing_n which_o be_v of_o strong_a prejudice_n against_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v a_o destructive_a thing_n 2._o that_o be_v such_o it_o shall_v neither_o be_v set_v up_o by_o the_o magistrate_n nor_o exercise_v by_o the_o minister_n nor_o receive_v by_o the_o people_n whereas_o indeed_o the_o severe_a act_n of_o discipline_n be_v salutary_a and_o preservative_n to_o the_o better_a part_n of_o man_n and_o though_o it_o be_v destructive_a to_o the_o worse_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v reject_v but_o co_fw-la nomine_fw-la to_o be_v admit_v both_o these_o we_o make_v good_a by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o same_o apostle_n he_o cit_v though_o not_o in_o the_o same_o epistle_n deliver_v such_o a_o one_o unto_o satan_n for_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n that_o the_o spirit_n may_v be_v save_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n 1_o cor._n 5.5_o this_o for_o the_o title_n page_n of_o this_o new_a quere_z sect_n iii_o the_o matter_n and_o scope_n of_o the_o quere_z and_o resolution_n upon_o it_o now_o for_o the_o discourse_n itself_o the_o drift_n whereof_o be_v to_o prove_v the_o negative_a viz._n that_o it_o be_v not_o fit_a according_a to_o the_o principle_n of_o religion_n and_o state_n te_fw-la settle_v any_o church_n government_n over_o the_o kingdom_n etc._n etc._n for_o this_o he_o plead_v in_o eleven_o paragraph_n which_o stand_v for_o so_o many_o reason_n for_o support_v of_o his_o opinion_n but_o they_o be_v set_v out_o rather_o with_o a_o rhetorical_a breadth_n than_o a_o logical_a strength_n and_o he_o seek_v to_o cover_v the_o truth_n with_o a_o broad_a hand_n which_o he_o can_v crush_v with_o his_o clutch_v fist_n i_o will_v endeavour_v to_o present_v they_o rather_o according_a to_o the_o natural_a vigour_n be_v it_o more_o or_o less_o that_o be_v in_o they_o then_o according_a to_o the_o artificial_a colour_n he_o have_v put_v upon_o they_o about_o which_o the_o matter_n of_o great_a difficulty_n be_v to_o marshal_v they_o in_o a_o right_a method_n which_o must_v be_v i_o though_o the_o reason_n be_v he_o and_o yet_o it_o shall_v be_v so_o far_o he_o as_o may_v consist_v with_o good_a sense_n and_o the_o order_n of_o proceed_v and_o therefore_o i_o will_v divide_v they_o into_o the_o two_o head_n to_o which_o his_o title_n page_n direct_v i_o into_o reason_n 1._o of_o religion_n and_o they_o be_v take_v 1._o from_o faith_n 2._o from_o conscience_n 1._o positive_o misguide_v to_o a_o popish_a compliance_n 2._o negative_o not_o work_v any_o good_a upon_o the_o conscience_n 3._o from_o christian_a example_n 1._o in_o general_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n 2._o in_o particular_a from_o the_o example_n 1_o of_o christ_n his_o 1._o description_n 2._o practice_n 2._o of_o his_o apostle_n 2._o of_o policy_n take_v from_o 1._o rule_n or_o consideration_n of_o prudence_n which_o be_v three_o 1._o the_o more_o time_n for_o try_v of_o spirit_n and_o prove_v of_o all_o thing_n there_o be_v the_o less_o danger_n to_o that_o state_n of_o err_v in_o thing_n receive_v and_o authorise_v etc._n etc._n 2._o there_o be_v no_o religion_n establish_v by_o state_n but_o there_o be_v some_o proportion_n in_o the_o two_o power_n etc._n etc._n 3._o our_o party_n or_o dissent_v brethren_n be_v now_o together_o and_o clasp_v by_o interest_n against_o the_o common_a enemic_a this_o foundation_n of_o common_a unity_n be_v such_o as_o may_v draw_v in_o both_o affection_n and_o judgement_n if_o not_o too_o sudden_o determine_v etc._n etc._n 2._o example_n of_o practice_n 1._o negative_o 2._o positive_o the_o first_o reason_n take_v from_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n because_o it_o be_v the_o clear_a and_o come_v near_a to_o his_o negative_a conclusion_n though_o it_o stand_v too_o far_o off_o either_o to_o build_v or_o uphold_v it_o i_o will_v propound_v his_o own_o word_n the_o rule_v lay_v down_o in_o the_o word_n for_o practical_a obedience_n be_v 3._o be_v §_o 1._o p._n 3._o these_o in_o part_n let_v every_o one_o be_v full_o persuade_v in_o his_o own_o mind_n rom._n 14.5_o and_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n vers_fw-la 23._o now_o the_o settle_n of_o any_o government_n upon_o a_o people_n who_o be_v yet_o general_o untaught_a in_o the_o nature_n and_o ground_n of_o it_o be_v to_o put_v upon_o they_o the_o practice_n of_o that_o wherein_o it_o be_v impossible_a they_o can_v be_v persuade_v in_o their_o mind_n and_o so_o either_o on_o a_o necessity_n of_o sin_n or_o misery_n answ_n if_o mr._n s._n have_v mind_v as_o he_o ought_v what_o he_o be_v to_o prove_v he_o shall_v have_v plant_v his_o reason_n direct_o against_o the_o enjoin_v or_o impose_v of_o a_o government_n rather_o than_o against_o obedience_n to_o it_o and_o so_o the_o scripture_n allege_v shall_v have_v be_v make_v remorae_n to_o the_o erect_n of_o a_o government_n thus_o those_o that_o set_v up_o a_o government_n whereof_o they_o be_v not_o full_o persuade_v in_o their_o mind_n and_o which_o they_o can_v do_v in_o faith_n do_v sin_n but_o they_o that_o now_o set_v up_o a_o church_n government_n with_o power_n common_o desire_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o minister_n do_v set_v up_o a_o government_n whereof_o they_o be_v not_o full_o persuade_v in_o their_o mind_n therefore_o in_o so_o do_v they_o sin_n the_o mayor_n proposition_n have_v warrant_n from_o the_o forecited_a place_n but_o the_o minor_a be_v that_o wherein_o the_o weight_n or_o weakness_n of_o the_o argument_n do_v consist_v and_o that_o can_v be_v prove_v nor_o can_v without_o breach_n of_o charity_n be_v suppose_v of_o such_o as_o have_v take_v so_o long_a time_n make_v use_v of_o so_o many_o learned_a and_o faithful_a counselor_n discuss_v and_o resolve_v all_o point_n of_o difficulty_n by_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v sound_o ground_v both_o in_o conscience_n and_o prudence_n for_o what_o they_o set_v forth_o touch_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n second_o if_o we_o take_v this_o reason_n to_o stand_v immediate_o against_o obedience_n and_o consequent_o against_o command_n or_o imposition_n it_o will_v be_v somewhat_o more_o formal_a but_o every_o whit_n as_o feeble_a thus_o that_o whereof_o every_o one_o under_o government_n can_v be_v persuade_v in_o his_o own_o mind_n and_o whereto_o he_o can_v yield_v 〈◊〉_d obedience_n of_o faith_n may_v not_o be_v set_v up_o or_o settle_v in_o the_o church_n but_o of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n with_o the_o power_n common_o desire_v every_o one_o under_o government_n can_v be_v full_o persuade_v in_o his_o mind_n nor_o submit_v to_o it_o of_o faith_n and_o therefore_o it_o may_v not_o be_v set_v up_o or_o can_v at_o all_o be_v set_v up_o without_o sin_n here_o the_o minor_a proposition_n grant_v the_o mayor_n must_v be_v deny_v for_o it_o be_v flat_o repugnant_a to_o religion_n and_o
our_o saviour_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o rigorous_a yoke_n of_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n which_o neither_o we_o say_v peter_n nor_o our_o forefather_n be_v able_a to_o bear_v act._n 15.10_o be_v easy_a and_o yet_o more_o easy_a by_o the_o assistance_n christ_n give_v his_o servant_n to_o bear_v it_o whence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o apostle_n profess_v that_o he_o take_v pleasure_n in_o infirmity_n in_o necessity_n persecution_n in_o distress_n for_o christ_n sake_n for_o when_o i_o be_o weak_a say_v he_o then_o be_o i_o strong_a 2_o cor._n 12.10_o when_o he_o be_v weak_a in_o himself_o than_o be_v he_o strong_a by_o the_o support_n of_o christ_n yet_o be_v his_o yoke_n in_o itself_o to_o those_o that_o be_v not_o by_o he_o enable_v to_o bear_v it_o very_o burdensome_a as_o where_o christ_n require_v the_o pluck_n out_o the_o right_a eye_n or_o cut_v off_o of_o the_o right_a hand_n that_o be_v of_o any_o concupiscence_n or_o contentment_n which_o become_v a_o scandal_n or_o a_o offence_n to_o the_o soul_n if_o it_o be_v as_o dear_a unto_o we_o as_o a_o right_a eye_n or_o right_a hand_n matth._n 5.29_o 30._o and_o the_o denial_n of_o a_o man_n own_o self_n and_o take_v up_o his_o cross_n to_o follow_v he_o matth._n 16.24_o the_o hate_v his_o near_a kindred_n not_o only_o in_o a_o collateral_a but_o in_o a_o directline_v whether_o above_o or_o below_o he_o yea_o and_o his_o own_o life_n also_o luke_n 14._o the_o last_o place_n be_v neither_o do_v man_n put_v new_a wine_n into_o old_a bottle_n matth._n 9.17_o whereof_o it_o be_v hard_o to_o make_v any_o sober_a sense_n which_o may_v serve_v to_o stay_v the_o government_n at_o discipline_n for_o a_o moment_n and_o how_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o resolution_n of_o this_o new_a quere_z be_v hard_o to_o find_v out_o though_o by_o a_o sober_a and_o serious_a consideration_n of_o the_o case_n if_o his_o meaning_n be_v which_o he_o shall_v not_o have_v put_v his_o reader_n to_o study_v for_o that_o a_o new_a government_n shall_v not_o be_v put_v upon_o those_o who_o have_v long_o be_v accustom_v to_o the_o old_a lest_o it_o make_v a_o breach_n upon_o their_o conscience_n or_o patience_n as_o new_a wine_n will_v by_o its_o work_n be_v like_a to_o break_v crazy_a bottle_n if_o they_o be_v stop_v while_o it_o be_v in_o work_v than_o it_o make_v rather_o for_o the_o continuance_n of_o the_o prelacy_n then_o against_o the_o set_n up_o of_o the_o presbytery_n and_o not_o against_o the_o government_n or_o discipline_n at_o this_o time_n only_o but_o at_o any_o time_n for_o whensoever_o it_o come_v it_o will_v be_v new_a wine_n at_o the_o first_o and_o the_o long_o it_o be_v delay_v the_o old_a will_v the_o bottle_n be_v into_o which_o it_o must_v be_v put_v but_o the_o truth_n be_v the_o government_n be_v neither_o so_o new_a as_o he_o will_v make_v it_o nor_o will_v there_o be_v any_o violent_a work_n by_o it_o to_o the_o break_n of_o any_o bottle_n or_o vessel_n unless_o it_o be_v a_o vessel_n of_o wrath_n fit_v to_o destruction_n rom._n 9.22_o his_o last_o word_n in_o this_o paragraph_n and_o the_o next_o to_o those_o but_o now_o rehearse_v be_v all_o which_o can_v be_v fulfil_v in_o the_o parochial_a congregation_n all_o which_o all_o what_o why_o what_o be_v forementioned_a what_o be_v that_o the_o discipline_n of_o christ_n the_o suitableness_n he_o press_v for_o his_o meekness_n and_o silence_n his_o easy_a yoke_n and_o light_a burden_n his_o commandment_n not_o grievous_a and_o the_o put_n of_o new_a wine_n into_o new_a bottle_n all_o which_o say_v he_o can_v be_v fulfil_v in_o parochial_a congregation_n what_o language_n be_v here_o what_o sense_n what_o logical_a connexion_n that_o may_v join_v the_o premise_n and_o conclusion_n together_o to_o beget_v a_o thought_n of_o compliance_n with_o the_o resolution_n of_o the_o quere_z conceive_v the_o penner_n to_o be_v a_o sober_a man_n i_o must_v think_v in_o this_o passage_n the_o printer_n brain_n may_v be_v trouble_v with_o the_o fume_n of_o new_a wine_n to_o conclude_v with_o nonsense_n for_o a_o rational_a consequence_n and_o i_o believe_v no_o new_a wine_n and_o old_a bottle_n how_o new_a or_o old_a soever_o can_v worse_o agree_v together_o then_o the_o foregoing_a evidence_n and_o final_a sentence_n of_o this_o paragraph_n sect_n vii_o master_n colemans_n experimental_a exception_n against_o the_o severity_n and_o rigour_n of_o the_o presbyterial_a government_n answer_v but_o do_v not_o mr._n coleman_n complain_v of_o the_o presbyterial_a government_n as_o too_o severe_a and_o domineer_a and_o that_o upon_o his_o own_o experience_n and_o thereupon_o forecast_v some_o strange_a fear_n and_o strong_a prejudices_fw-la against_o it_o yes_o and_o he_o do_v it_o in_o these_o word_n i_o will_v tell_v you_o say_v he_o both_o what_o and_o whence_o my_o fear_n be_v i_o fear_v lest_o the_o presbyterial_a government_n shall_v encroach_v upon_o the_o civil_a and_o i_o also_o fear_v lest_o it_o shall_v prelatical_o tyrannize_v 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