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A09885	A refutation of an epistle apologeticall written by a puritan-papist to perswade the permission of the promiscuous vse and profession of all sects and heresies wherein the vnlawfulnesse and danger of such wicked licence is fully declared by auctoritie of Scriptures, canons, councels, fathers, lawes of Christian emperours, and iudgement of reason. Together with the punishment of heretiques and idolaters.	Powel, Gabriel, 1576-1611.	1605 (1605)	STC 20149; ESTC S114980	80,389	128

deliuer vs from that viperous and bloudie generation 4 The Pope who being the great Antichrist is to exercise all his malice against Christians not Iewes and Infidels for a summe of money impiously tolerateth cursed Iewes to erect Synagogues and openly to exercise their blasphemies against Christ Iesus our blessed Sauiour to the disgrace and high contempt of Christian Religion as appeareth in the Penitentiarie Taxe But his example can be no warrant for Christian Princes in such maner to tolerate Heresie and Idolatrie The zeale of Iames and Iohn exorbitant 5 The desire of Iames and Iohn proceeded from exorbitant and preposterous zeale for the Gospell had not beene yet preached vnto the Samaritans But the case of Papistes is farre otherwise The Papistes what members Subiectes and Children they be 6 The Papistes are members of the same body with vs but rotten members that must be cut off least the whole be infected They are Subiects to one Soueraigne with vs but disloyall Subiects who acknowledge an other Superiour the Pope They are Children of one heauenly Father with vs but bastardly and rebellious Children that haue forsaken the Lord gone a whoring after strange gods There follow foure Reasons more but I see not how they conclude Vnreasonable Reasons I God permitteth the Diuell to draw from thence some good Ergo Papistes ought to be tolerated who belike are the Diuels children II The spouse of Christ is Lilium inter spinas Ergo the spinie Papistes are to be tolerated to pricke and vex the Church III The Rose smels sweetely Ergo The thornie pricking Papistes are to be tolerated IV Heresies and errour must necessarily be in the world Ergo Papistes must be tolerated to broach and teach them I see not what coherence there is betweene the Antecedent and Consequence of these Enthymems no more between the Antecedent and Consequence of them who said Why dowe not euill that good may come therof whose damnation is most iust as the Apostle speaketh Rom. 3.8 But let vs proceed Faith is the 1 So is repentance the gift of God as well as faith and yet a thiefe may be hanged well enough gift of God alone and is not to be beaten with hammers into the head or heart of man It dependeth not of man but of the election and free praedestination None comes to me saith Christ but whom my Father draweth who therefore 2 Was not Paul violently drawes vnto Christ and did not he say Compell them to come in neuer vsed violence but by his word and meeknesse drew at length all the world to him and his faith Vpon these grounds of Scripture and Christes example the first and most learned of our profession haue taught that none may be 3 So do we teach likewise we cōpell not to the faith but to cease from broaching errors and to vse the meanes to obtaine saith compelled to the faith and therefore haue written bitterly against those who at our first appearing sought by sword and fire to root vs out And can we for shame 4 This is the very practise of Papists put in execution our selues what we condemne in others or b is doctrine to be altered with the exchange of our state and condition What may his Maiestie thinke of vs if now we recall the doctrine which we haue heretofore taught to be well warranted by Gods word Christ his words are infallible it is the heauenly Father alone that can draw soules to Christianitie and it is the internall vnction of his spirit that teacheth it and planteth it in mans heart And therefore in this case let vs lay force aside and 5 But we must not neglect the meanes otherwise it will be required at our hands leaue it to Gods goodnesse to draw those whom he hath elected and in the meane time not to repine at the prudence of our Prince if he vse and employ all his subiects 6 As if the prince were not to care for the establishing of Gods true and sincere worship within his dominions howsoeuer affected in Religion to the strengthening of his state and benefit of the Common-wealth Faith is the gift of God and what followeth thereof I know Faith is the gift of God and that none may compell the hearts and wills of men But yet God doth ordinarily kindle faith in our harts by the preaching of the word for Paul saith Faith commeth by hearing and hearing by the word of God Rom. 10. Wherefore Christian Princes ought to haue speciall care that the preaching of the word be pure and sincere that it be not adulterated or corrupted by the inuentions of men Men should be compelled not to the faith but to the places where Faith is taught Againe albeit no man may be compelled to faith that it is not the worke of humane strength to frame new hearts and new wills in men yet may they be restrained and kept in obedience by good Lawes and affliction that they do not broach and teach false and hereticall opinions that they be not carried into all licencious wickednesse and that by their euill examples they giue no scandall vnto others Besides Repentance and Sanctification are also the gifts of God and yet ought the Magistrate to execute vengeance vpon all malefactours according to the quality of their offence So ought he in this case compell men to the outward discipline Moreouer if faith because it is the gift of God ought to be permitted free vnto euery man Wherfore did Paul strike the false Prophet which would haue drawen the Proconsull from the faith with blindnesse Act. 13. Why do the Scriptures commaund that the seducing Idolater be slaine without any mercie Why do they command vs to auoid an Heretique after once or twise admonition Concerning our first Teachers and Professours their purpose was to moue the Popish Clergie to delight rather in teaching then in tormenting poore soules How the Protestants spake against compulsion for they thought it a strange kind of preaching to driue men to beleeue by whipping as Boner and others did Or els they detested their violent and furious maner of compulsion who neither tooke paines to perswade nor allowed men time to learne those things which they forced them to beleeue But if some of our first Professours were of the contrary opinion it cannot preiudice vs halfe so much as this suite and defence for toleration doth the papistes the greate braggers of vnity who now for some priuate respects maintaine this paradoxe directly against the doctrine and practise of their Church I denie not but that he must labour to draw all his subiects to the trueth but we differ in the meanes which I holde to be Gods holy word We 1 Lucian-like scoffing of the Libeller haue taught to this effect that euery man may reade the Scriptures and search the trueth of himselfe as God shall inspire him and we hoped that by this meanes all

as you suppose note to my shame yet I hold it not ignominious to change for the better vpon these and others so graue considerations as in this Treatise I shall set downe for your and others satisfaction Saul when he stoned Stephan and the other Martyrs had zeale but without knowledge so had I while I was of your opinion and confesse with Paul 19 But the libeller iam sapit vs pravus for he glorieth in vomiting his owne shame Sapiebam vt paruulus my vndiscreete zeale blinded my vnderstanding and in my iudgement there wanted ripenesse and maturitie As you do now so did I then storme within my selfe to see his Maiestie 20 As though his Highnesse were not able to rule himselfe ruled by the Protestants not onely in those 21 A Machauellian pract se to bring the Puritans in detestation with his Maiestie who neuer accompted thus of his Coronation and Vnction Papisticall ceremonies of his coronation and vnction but also in the whole course and practise of the Communion Booke and administration of sacraments that he should leaue the whole state of the Church of England in the same sort as a he found it Fol. 5 and take vpon him the title of 22 Good Sir there is difference betwene Supremacie and Supreame head this latter Caluin saith that some attributed vnto K. Henry 8. of vndiscreet zeale supremacy in matters of Religion a point highly blamed in K. Henry 8. by Master Caluin who without all controuersie was one of the chief●st instruments of the Gospell and therefore neuer as yet receiued by any of our reformed Churches At his Maiesties first comming to the Crowne we expected nothing lesse then this suddaine 23 Soft and faire the weath●r is not so calme not the reasō still as you would make the world beleeue calme towards the Papistes They liue in peace and pay no more the Statute and that by commaundement from the King Some that lost their lands and countrey are now restored to both with grace which made me wonder at the first and enter into due consideration of the fact when conferring with some of knowen wisedome and zeale I vnderstoode that the Marques Rosne Lord Treasurer of France sent hither as Embassadour did amongst other points very mainly 24 Whether this be true or no his Maiestie best knoweth and I thinke i● is extreame presumption and arrogancy for a●y ●ubiect to disclose the secrets of his Soueraigne But what do not disloyall Papists dare to It may be that Marques de Rosne perswaded the K not to force any 〈◊〉 Protestans Subiects to the businesse of Religion but it is not likely he spake any thing in fauour of Papists and if he did his Maiestie knoweth what he hath to do well inough perswade his Maiestie not to force any of his subiects in the businesse of Religion himselfe being as you know a very good Christian And further vnderstanding how 25 Great Britaine hath no cause God be thanked to e uie them this quietnesse quietly our brethren in France liue together with the Papists vnder lawes prouided for that purpose I finde that this b Nobleman hath dealt honourably with his Maiestie and giuen the same aduise by which the King his Master wonne Fraunce and established his 26 Because the Papistes would neuer acknowledge him to be their lawfull King vntill he had made profession of their Religion Crowne in peace I will not follow the Libeller in his immethodicall idle Digressions sit to preuaile with worldly mindes that neuer tasted the truth which if I should labour to repell with such a discoursing style I should but waste paper and wearie the Reader wherefore I will ioyne issue with him in as fewe tearmes as may be The Libellers Proposition His Proposition briefly is this No man is to be compelled to embrace Religion by the temporall sword of the Magistrates power but is to be perswaded by the eternall sword of Gods holy word In the meane time he would haue euery man left to himselfe to embrace what Religion he pleaseth as he professeth fol. 23. b. What we are to iudge of this Proposition is fully declared in the former part of this Treatise But to speake yet more plainly vpon the present occasion I can but wonder with what face the Papistes dare frame such a Proposition as is directly contrary vnto the doctrine and practise of their Church Why for shame rebuke they that in others which they allow in themselues Wherefore do they dayly compell infinite numbers with extreame violence to recant and foresweare the perswasion of their faith The Papistes would compell but not be compelled to Religion Or can they yeeld any reason that they may compell others but none must compell them Their inquiring their burning their murdering of thousands without any respect of innocent guiltie learned vnlearned olde yong men women is indeede very lamentable This kinde of compulsion The Popish Compulsion whereby their Prelates make it their occupation to persecute to death all sorts ages and sexes which refuse their schoole trickes and diuell●sh Decretals we detest with our hart and disswade with our tongue affirming that they ought rather with mildenesse patience seeke to recouer such as they thinke lost Yet in Christian Kings and Princes How Christian Princes may compell who beare the Sword as the Apostle saith not in vain are Gods Lieutenants not onely to procure peace betweene men but also by lawes to maintaine Religion towards God we doe not dispraise moderate correction when neede so requireth who with conuenient sharpnesse of positiue Lawes ought to amerce banish and diuersely punish Heretiques Which Christian iustice tempered with equitie exercised by his most excellent Maiestie neither can their friends deny to be charitable nor themselues gainesay to be sutable to that coaction which the Scriptures commend in Iosiah and other godly Kings which the vertuous Emperours followed in the Primitiue Church and which the ancient Fathers vpon deepe Consideration found allowed by God himselfe as the chiefe point which he requireth at the hands of Christian Princes True it is that Religion vseth rather to perswade then to compell that GOD did rather shew then exact the true knowledge of himselfe and that true Bishops and Pastours ought rather teach then torment their flocke Yet are the obstinate and stubborne refractaries Papistes may be compelled to abandon their Heresie who refuse instruction to be compelled by the Magistrates for dread of punishment tempered with good instruction to forsake their heresies and forbeare their Idolatries wherewith Christ is dishonoured and his trueth defaced Otherwise questionlesse the Lord will enter into iudgement with his Deputies and Vicegerents and exact a strict accompt for his name blasphemed his Sonne refused his trueth scorned his Sacraments prophaned his word exiled and then what answere must be made for the ruine and shipwrake of faith the haruest of sinne and

that the truth feareth no triall and flieth not the open pulpits and publique disputations The learned writers tooke it then for a disgrace to their writings to be quitte by Proclamation which thing once my selfe 11 Note well Ergo the Libeller is a man both of yeeres and place or qualitie amongst vs. Which causeth me to suspect that he can be no Seminarie locust nor Apocalypticall frog or Iesuite being in company at a dinner was cast in M. Iuells dish and hence it proceede that the answeres of the aduersaries the more they were forbid the better they were esteemed to the disuniting of many that were most earnest before with M. Iuell in his challendge as the Lord Copley so they termed him D. Steeuens and others And if it shall please his Maiestie that the said challendge be 12 But that challenge was neuer yet wholy answered by the Papists Is it likely that the Libeller is a Puritane seeing he doubteth of the truth of Iewels challenges prosecuted and triall made for the truth especially among the learned in the publique Schooles and Vniuersities and that not in one point only b but in all he shall giue great satisfaction to euery one that in this time of so many sects hath care to finde the truth they that haue the truth shall be confirmed and such as know it not shall more easily find it by such a free search and inquisition Of triall by Disputation The Papistes euer foiled in Disputation Now the Libeller mainely laboureth to perswade triall by disputation wherein I can but wonder at his impudency considering alwaies in euery conference the Papists fled before vs. Martin Luther and Philip Melancthon maintained the cause of the Gospell by disputation before the greatest States of Germanie against as subtill instruments of Satan as euer since haue risen vp to oppugne the truth Theodore Beza a man of rare knowledge and vtterance assisted with Peter Martyr disputed this cause at Poyssie with the choice of the Sorbone and of all the Papistes of France that the Cardinall of Lorraine wished that Beza that day had beene dumbe or the chiefe of his Auditours deafe I will not mention the disputation of Zuinglius Oecolampadius and others at Bearne Basile Strasborough Zurich and other free Cities in all which the truth was euer found among the Protestants But to speake heere of the like at home So it was also in the disputation in King Edwards time And in Queene Maries albeit they brought those worthie Martyrs of Christ Cranmer Ridley and Latimer to dispute at Oxford with most vnreasonable inequalitie and conditions yet they so foiled and wounded their enemies that both those that were present and whosoeuer shall yet read it to this day may easily see that they fought valiantly with the sword of the Spirite to the confusion of those that stroue against them In the beginning of Queene Elizabeth her most blessed and happie raigne the Popish Bishops and greatest Clerks were prouoked and appointed by auctoritie to dispute if they were able to maintaine their doctrine against the Ministers of the Gospell But after a few impertinent words they gaue ouer their cause in the plaine field and so ridiculously handled the matter that it is maruell that the remembrance of the confusion and shame of that day doth not terrifie the Papistes from once daring againe to moue the matter of disputation with vs. But as the Prouerb saith He that runneth away may fight againe So Campian the Iesuite came with open defiance to prouoke the Protestantes to fight with him boasting to maintaine his cause by Scripture Councels Fathers by all Lawes Ciuill Canon and Common and by all Histories and monuments of former ages But what the issue was and how his glorie was turned into shame the Acts of those disputations in publique print do manifestly declare So this Puritan-Papist as also some others of the same crew crake much of disputation and conference But if it pleased his Highnesse and the State if necessitie or conueniencie did so require questionlesse the rottennesse of their cause should soone appeare For we haue the Arke of the Lord among vs we haue his siluer Trumpets sounding continually in our campes Though they came about vs like Bees yet should they be quenched as a fire of thornes they put confidence in themselues but in the name of the Lord of Hostes we should preuaile against them Concerning the challenge of that worthy and learned Bishop Iewell of reuerend memorie B. Iewels challenge he vndertooke and performed against the Papistes those seuen and twentie points wherein they differ from vs and the Primitiue Church which remaine vnanswered vnto this day sauing that D. Harding prated a little in the first point onely which yet was so defended against him and some one or two others that tooke his part that they quite left the field and fled And as hitherto by writing to the glory of GOD to the gathering and edifying of his Church we haue defended and maintained the trueth against them So by the grace and assistance of GOD many of vs will be alwaies ready to do the same hereafter Restraint of Hereticall Bookes But if they will haue their Bookes passe freely without restraint and all men to be allowed to read them Let them first assure vs that they will leaue it free for all such as are abused by them to reade ours For we are not ignorant of their discipline to the keeping of the poore and ignorant people in that captiuitie that they may not once dare to reade our writings least they should be conuerted and repent that the Lord might saue their soules For a few onely excepted whom they thinke desperate of being conuerted by any meanes vnto the truth they restraine all vnder their iurisdiction from reading our workes If they so straitly prouide to hinder the truth and to keepe Captiue simple soules in their blinde kingdome of darkenesse much more reason haue our Magistrates to prouide that the children of light be not led into darkenesse by them Gamaliell is noted by Luke for a man of 1 Mutuò muli scabunt One Pharisie commendeth another deepe iudgement and worthy Doctor in the Law of Moises and commended much for his 2 It was a very foolish counsell politique aduise giuen the high Priest and body of the Councell to take heede to themselues what they entended to doe touching the Apostles who seemed to them to teach a new doctrine For said he If this counsell or this worke be of men it will come to naught but if it be of God yee cannot destroy it least ye be found euen fighters against God And in this kinde he gaue certaine instances in Theodas and Iudas of Galiley For as the truth cannot be ouercome so errour and heresies cannot long stand but will at length of them selues perish and it is certaine that heresies which arise among Christians are as Augustine well noteth