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A09101	A discouerie of I. Nicols minister, misreported a Iesuite, latelye recanted in the Tower of London Wherin besides the declaration of the man, is contayned a ful answere to his recantation, with a confutation of his slaunders, and proofe of the contraries, in the Pope, cardinals, clergie, students, and priuate men of Rome. There is also added a reproofe of an oratiuon and sermon, falsely presented by the sayd Nicols to be made in Rome, and presented to the Pope in his consistorye. Wherto is annexed a late information from Rome touchng [sic] the aute[n]tical copie of Nicols recantation.	Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.	1581 (1581)	STC 19402; ESTC S120349	83,096	196

The true Churche is visible as hath bene saide that is that no man can be saued excepte he repaire vnto h●● enter into her heare her obeye her and the like Cyp. li. de simpli Ire ep 1. ad Dā Aug. li. 4. de bap● ca. 1. they doe deduce I saye by infallible consequence that this Church or Congregation must be visible to mans eyes Otherwise howe shall we repayre vnto her whom we cannot sée how can we complaine vnto her Math. 18. as Scripture biddeth vs whye shall we be damne●●or disobeying her as Christ threatneth vs 1. Cor. 15. How shall we receaue the Sacramentes and true inter●retation of Scripture from her if she be inuisible Act. 20. Howe dyd S. Paul persecute the true Churche of Christ Aug in psa 30. 47. 44. li 2. ●ō Pet. cap. 32. tract 1. 2. in ep ad Io. Orig. ho. 30 in math● Chris. ho 4 in ca● 6. Esa. How doth he say that God hath put Bishops and Pastors t● gouerne it if it be inuisible The holye Fathers of the primatiue Churche haue laboured much in this pointe against heretiques whoe alwayes had this shifte to say that the true Church was inuisible and therfore their obscure and new vpstarte congregations might be it Wherof S. Austen writeth at large against the Donatistes● But the saide Fathers ouerthrew this refuge of hereticks by many places of scripture As where the Church is promised to be a hil vpon the toppe of all other hilles Esa. 2. Deu. 2. Mich. 4. Psal. 18. Math 5. 1. Tim. 3. Math. 18. Gen. 22. Aug. tract 19. in epist. Ioan. Ier. in haec ōnia loca a tabernacle of God placed in the soone a citie inobscurable builte vpon a mountayne a piller of trueth erected for all men to repayre vnto and a benediction for al nations to participate of as wel Iewe and Gentile as others By which and like places of scripture the holy Fathers do proue that the true Church of Christ is not inuisible but soe visible and subiect to al mens sightes as al may know her repayre vnto her enter into her heare her obay her and follow her that will excepte heretickes only as S. Austen sayeth Aug. li. de vnit cont Pe●il ca. 14. in Psal. 32. Whoe doe blind them selues and will not see soe greate a hill and if they do see her yet they runne from her according to the spalme They saw me and yet ranne out from me Fowrthly the Catholicks doe deduce of the premisses that The true visible Church cannot erre if this trew visible Church of Christ haue soe greate priuiledges from him as to be his spouse and his owne body as is sayed before also if no man can be saued but by repayringe to her and obaying her direction then is it necessarie that Christ shoulde according to his promise soe gouerne her by his holy spirite Au in Psal. 147. de vnit eccle ca. 13 20. Math. 28. and directe her vnto the end by continuall assistance as she may neuer be deceaued in doctrine of faith or bring her childrē into errour For otherwise she mighte become of the spouse of Christ a stromp●t and an apos●ata as the Donatistes sayed she was in their time and as Luther sayed she was in his time S. Austē detesteth all su●h as say soe Conc. 2. in Psal. 101. 1. Tim. 3. and soe Christ his Kingdome should perish and the worke of his passion become frustrate also otherwise whye is she called by the Apostle a piller of trueth for vs to repayre vnto in all doubtes and why are al men commaunded vnder payne of damnation to heare and obey her Math. 18. if she may erre and deceaue those that take directiō from her Leo ep 31. Math. 3. ●3 Moreouer if this visible Church might erre and soe perishe how then shall the barne floore contayninge corne and chaffe The corne ●●●de Ephe. 4. Aug. li 22. de ciui ca. 15. 18. contayninge wheat and cockle vnderstoode literallye of this visible Church remayne vnto y● end of the world as Christ affermeth that they sha●l How doth S. Paul say t●at this visible Church shal cōtin●w vnder visible pastours and teachers vntill we méete all in vnitie of faith c. Finally reade S. Austen only of this absurditie That Church saithe he which was the Church of all Nations Aug. in ●sa● 101. cōcio 2. vide Chris. ho. 4. inca 6 Esa. ● Orig ho. 3. in mat is she not now Is she perished they saye soe that are not in her O impudent speech is she not because thou arte not in her nay see least thou be not in her for saying so For she shall be though thou be not Fifthly Catholiques doe deduce out of the premisses that séeing the knowledge finding out of this true Church The necessitie of infallible mar●es to knowe the Churche is soe necessarie to all men as hath bene sayd and as noe man can be saued without it it is certaine that Christ hath left ●ome such manifest sure and infallible markes to knowe this true Church and Congregation from all other congregations in the world as no man maye be deceaued therin excepte he will wilfully blinde him selfe This is agréeable bothe to the mercy and iustice of Christ whoe forsawe in his prouidence the doutes that would rise about this matter For which cause also S. Aus●en sayth Aug. in psal 32. That the holy Prophetes spake more plainer of this Church thē of christ him selfe Foreseeing that more controuersies should rise about the Church then about Christ c. Of these markes therfore we are nowe to entreate so farre as Nicols geueth vs occasion Which thing because it is of al other of most importance for the true Church once found Why here●iques are soe angerie with the markes of the Churche all other controuersies are ended the heretique striuethe moste in this pointe to auoide the true markes which descrye his estate and to forge other markes which are noe markes at all nor any waye to be found in his church but yet may be chalenged by him and not soe euedently improued by the contrarie parte But for the examination bothe of his our markes Three properties of true markes it is to be noted that true markes of the Church should haue these thrée cōditions or properties at the least First that the marke should be better knowen and easier to be found out then the thing marked by it For otherwise it could be no good marke being more or no lesse obscure then the thing it selfe which it ought to make manifest vnto vs. Secondly that the marke be proper only to the thing marked and not comon to many other for thē it should no more make manifest the thing we séeke for then any other Thirdly that the marke be suche as our forefathers vsed in the Primatiue Church to proue their

A Discouerie of I. Nicols minister misreported a Iesuite latelye recanted in the Tower of London Wherin besides the declaration of the man is con●ayned a ful answere to his recantation with a con●utation of his slaunders and proofe of the contraries in the Pope Cardinals Clergie Studentes and priuate men of Rome There is also added a reproofe of an oration and sermon falsely pretended by the sayd Nicols to be made in Rome and presented to the Pope in his Consistorye Wherto is annexed a late information from Rome touch●ng the autētical copie of Nicols recantation IHS God hathe exalted him and geuen him a name whiche is aboue all names Philippens 2.ver.9 There is no other name vnder heauen geuen vnto men wherin we must be saued Act. 4 ver 12 A lyeing witnes shall haue an yuel ende Pro. 21. An non ex hac odiosa impudentia pullulabit mox impoenitentia mater desperationis Bern. Ser. 42. in Can. 1 A preface shewing different proceeding in ●atholicks and their aduersaries with a diuision of the booke into three partes 2 The firste parte contayneth a narration of Iohn Nicolls with a refutation of certayne vayne and false vauntes made of him selfe 3 The seconde parte contayneth a confutation of many malitious slaunders vttered by Nicolls againste Catboliques but especiallie and more in particuler against the Pope the Cardinals priestes and religious men the English studentes in Rome diuers particuler persons and againste the cittye of Rome it selfe where also the contraries to Nicols reportes are declared 4 The third parte contayneth an explication and defence of certayne controuersies misunderstood and absurdly peruerted by Nicols 5 Nicols oration sermon published in english since the writing of this booke pretended by him as made in Rome presented to the Pope are conuinced of forgery by manifest absurdities impossibilities and contradictions 6 Also there is added a late information from Rome of the true copie of Nicols recantation in that place 7 Lastly there is put downe an example 〈◊〉 a tast of Nicols talent in rayling at both sides TO the indifferente Reader IT IS one poynte among other o● very bare brokers to extol immoderatly very base wares And it is not the guise but of needye distressed warryers The aduersaries pouertie to receaue wi●h trōpet to place of dignitie euerie ragged and wandering fugitiue Which two thinges notwithstanding with no smal discredite of their owne cause some aduersaries of ours haue followed of late in soe greedye receauing and aduauncinge to the pulpet with measureles commendation one Iohn Nicoles farre vnfitte in mine opinion for soe great a doe beinge but a reiected thing of the contrarie parte a séelie grammarian and twise reuolted minister Whose recantation or rayling rather inuectiue published not long since from the Tower of London In februarie Ano. 1581. I coulde more willinglye haue pittied then aunswered knowing the mans féeblenes as I doe but only for that he surchargeth with slaunder soe manie other men yea Princes and states in that his declamation as it was harde for me whiche before god in my conscienes knewe all or moste of it to be forged to hould my peace in soe manyfest vntruthes and by silence to yelde credite to the manye malytious and reproche●ul reportes The dealing also of our aduersaries in this case and she like moued me not a little to answere whoe shame not to proclaime triumphes vpon soe base conquestes against their mother the Catholique Church whoe hath borne them and brought them vp and whoe if she would but a litle folow the same course Different dealing in Catholiques their aduersaries not in falshed and malice as they doe but in euident truthe ether by noting the knowen vices of her enemies which rather she soroweth and hartely be wayleth or in vaunting the gaine of suche as daylye by goddes g●ace returne againe from rebellion she might easely in bothe these things matche and ouermatche the lauishe tōgues of her reuoulted children were she not restrained by charytie in the one and by grauitie in the other For touching the first who doth not knowe that if in lewe of this and the like t●● notable infamous a●tes of ministers preachers onlye in this one Realme of Englande for the space of one doson years past Looke the crowne off●●● and other lyke recordes w●re ga●hered into some one booke ●or the vewe of the worlde they would be more in quantitie and in qualitie more haynous then al that they haue gathered by great laboure muche falshod in their seueral bookes out of the liues of the worste Catholiques for these thowsand yeres past ouer all the whole worlde And yet these men ●or●oothe came as prophetes to re●orme vs and our f●thers liues and ther●ore in reason should haue liued more exactly them selues And touching the second who dothe not sée the great varietie of important learned personages which from time to time vppon trial of the truthe doe retourn● vnto vs euen from their ministerie and they also of other qualitie and talente then séelye Iohn Nicols whoe in good soothe is not worthe the taking vp being sounde in the stréete and yet we vaunt not of eache thing in printe nor sturre we tragedies vpon litle trifles We are contente to leaue this to our aduersaries whose fraude or feruor is to make mountaines of molehilles and greate speache vppon small matter If any man wil doubt wh●ther such returne of Protestantes be made vnto vs or noe as I noted before passing ouer other places let him cast his eye but vpon these Seminaries and Colleges on this side the seas where English studentes are and he shal finde a great and principal part therof to haue bene in times past not onely of there religion but also towardes there ministerie Ministrye to Preisthode whoe on the contrary can not shew me any one Préest in these later yeres perverted by them I add in these later yeres for that albeit in the beginning of heresie when first the banner of sedition was raysed agaynst the Church great multitudes of people reuolted together as in al commotions is wonte to happe by some generall fa●se sugg●stion of the principal rebels Cause of former reuolting and present re●urninge yet afterward the heate being past and more calmer consideration coming in place men haue staied them selues and harkened to the cause and diuers also returned which in the first furie ranne out with the rest of which two sortes both the one and the other remayne better fortified for resisting of lyke error for the time to come The meanes which haue bene vsed generally to preistes taken these later yeres for I wil conceale tower matters in particuler for the withdrawing of them in religion haue bene many and strong and qualified in both extremities of rigor and alluremēt promises and minaces and yet so great is God his goodnes no one I say not any one hath vnto this day faultered But of ministers

Church true against heretickes Now then let vs examine bréefly both our marks and those of our aduersaries accordinge to these thrée properties and conditions● Our aduersaries bring two principal markes Cal. li. 4. in ca● 1. num 7. 8.9 whereby they would haue the true Church to be tryed the one is the true vse of Sacramentes the other the true interpretatiō and preaching of God his word which two thinges alb●it they be pri●iledges of the true Church and onely found in the same yet can they be no external markes to shew vnto vs the saied Church Heretical markes re●uted for that they want al those thrée properties of true markes before recited For first they are as vnknowen to vs as the thinge we séeke for it being as hard and obscure and as much in cōtrouersie who doe preach the worde sincerely and administer the Sacramentes aright as it is whi●h is the true Church Secondly these two thinges are not soe proper to the true Church but that euery heretical congregation may and doth in the sight of the world chalēg the same vnto it selfe consequētly it can not be a good marke to distinguishe their cōgregations from the true Church Thirdly the holy Fathers did neuer vse thes two marks against the hereticks of their time but rather did reiect thē when they were brought for marks by hereticks as they are now Li. 3. ca. 19. de bap con Don. ep 48. ad Rog. li. 1. ca. 29. cont Cresc as it may appeare by S. Austē in diuers places against the Donatists Rogatistes and other here●ickes which did labour as he sayeth That their error may be named truth ther wikednes iustice for the sacramēts scripturs which they hold for a shew not to saluation The Catholickes on the other side doe alleag more certaine easie and manifest marks for trial of the Church which markes haue al the properties before recited albeit they vse to bring 15. or 16● s●ueral notes or signes al foūded in the scripturs by vew wherof it is most esie to discerne the true Church from al other yet for breuities sake I wil name only fower thrée whereof are impugned by Iohn Nicolls in his booke The first marke is that the true Church is Catholicke as our Créed teacheth vs 1 Catholicke Au● ep 170. ad Seuer Lirin li. aduer here which word S. Austē expoundeth thus The Catholicke Church is that which is spread ouer the whole world an other father not long a●ter him expon̄deth that to be the Catholike or vniuersal Church which holdeth that faithe ●ero dial con Lucif Pacian ep ● ad Simp. Aug. li de vera religi cap. 7 tract 118. in Ioh. in psal 49. 147. li. 2. cont Pet. cap. 55. ser. 131. de tempore that hath bene h●lde generally by Christians euerye where and in all times since the beginning● And generally al the holy Fathers doe vse and vrge this marke against all heretiques prouing that church onlye to be the true church which being planted by the Apostles and their successors was spread ouer al partes of the world or the chéefe partes therof wherby it tooke the name of Catholique and that all other congregations which afterwarde began in corners or by some one or fewe men contrarie to the more parte of Christianitie can not be the true Church but hereticall Sinagogues Li. de vtili cre cap. 7. Whereas there be many heresies amongest Christians saith S. Austen and all wil seeme to be catholiques calling other men heretiques besides them selues the Catholique Churche is but one more plentifull in multitude if we consider the whole world as al men will graunt And againe Ep. 165. ad gen If an Angel frō heauen should saye leaue the Christianitie of the whole world and hould the partes of Donatus he ought to be accursed for that he goeth about to cutt thee from the whole and to thrust thee into a part And againe Li. 4. de simb ca. 10. Whatsoeuer Congregation of heresie sitteth in a Corner she is a harlot and noe mother Now whether this marke agrée to our churche or theirs let our aduersaries iudge The second marke of the true church is Antiquitie 2 Antiquitie For as God was before the diuel and as the good séede was sowē in the gospel before the cockle Math. 13. soe was Christ his true church before al heresie and al heresies haue sprong vp since our Catholique faithe was planted whiche thing may be shewed in this māner See of this Aug. li. cō Ep. funda cap. 4. Ierō ep ad Pam. Ocean dial con Lucif Hillar li. 6. de trin ante medium For that in euery notable change or alteration of religion these six thinges maye be shewed First the authore of that newe religion secōdly the new doctrine which he taught thirdly the time when he began fowerthly the place or coūtrie wher he began fiftly that some men resisted and impugned this newe doctrine at the beginning sixthly that some other fewe men first began to embrace the same And al these six thinges we can shewe in euery heresie since Christes time as also of the doctrine of our aduersaries But they can neuer shewe the same of the beginning of our doctrine And therfore it appeareth that their doctrine is new and h●retical and ours auncient and Catholique This argument of antiquitie al the Fathers haue vsed against heretiques of their time Lib. de prescrip con here What are you saith Tertuliā to certaine heretiques whēce whē came you where haue you beene hidden soe longe Lib. 2. And Optatus against Parmenian Shew the beginning of your chayre which will challenge the holy Church vnto you The third marke vsed by the ould Fathers to know the true Church 3 Succession is succession of Bishopes frō the Apostles time especially in the sea of Rome Lib. 3. con her cap. 3. For so saieth Ireneus aboue 1300 yeares past reconinge vpp all the Bishopes of Rome from S. Péeter vnto his time And adding that by that succession of Bishopes all heretiques were confounded The same saythe Tertulian Lib. de prescrip Let heretiques laye forthe the beginninge of their churches let them tourne ouer the order of their Bishopes comminge doune by succession● cet Epi. her 27. Epiphanius also vseth this argument of reconing vpp the Bishopes of Rome for proofe of the Catholiqu● faythe and confutation of heresie The like dothe Optatus and S. Augustine against the Donatistes Oopt li. 2. cont Pa●m Au. ●p 165. 42. Willing them to doe the like if they meane to aquite them selues from heresie And the reasone of this is for the Christ leauing his Churche to be gouerned by his Apostles whiche were Bishopes and they by their successors whosoeuer came in afterward not by this lawfull and ordinarie dore of ordination succession Iohn 10 except he bring extraordinarie