plainely shewed against Tortus or rather counterfet Bellarmine that the Apostles Creede was set foorth whereto Iames the Apostle before his martyrdom had added the Article of Christ before the departure of the Apostles from Ierusalem and therefore before S. Peter came to Rome by the testimonie of Baronius himselfe Anno 44. and had concluded necessarily from thence that the Catholike faith was fully finished before the Apostolike See was begunne hence it is said there arose a doubt in that right honourable Calanders conscience a Papist but very moderate and honest not onely of the supremacie of Peter and of that depriuing power annexed to the supremacy but of all the whole Romish Catholike faith which he saw was contained in the popish not Apostolicall Nycene or Constantinopolitane Creede § 125 Therefore when those former learned men together with William Argentine came againe to visite him It is very well sayd Calander that you are met againe to discusse before vs a verie difficult controuersie of the popes new creede which Pius the fouth had formerly compiled Paul the 5. comanded it lately to be printed my good freind Argentine hath lately recited it and I hope by and by he will recite the same to you This being prescribed by the Church vtterly to reiect it I doe as yet to speake truely make a conscience and to admit it wholly vnlesse it bee ratified by the testimonies of the holy Scripture I cannot admit without scruple of conscience For I haue lately learned to giue attendance to the holy Scripture which holy S. Peter doth directly affirme to bee as a candle lightned in this life to vs wandring in darknesse 2. Pet. 1. Which holy Paul doth likewise make the foundation of the Church Ephes 2.20 1. Tim. 3.15 and yet I cannot depart rashly from the Catholike Church whereto I haue beene accustomed which the same S. Paul calles the piller and ground of truth by which there is a creede of faith set out for me So I hang doubtfull betweene the Scripture the Church which God hath giuen vnto vs as the Sunne and Moone the two great lights to giue vs light to life Then Patriott you say right Calander said he in the § 126 generall that as the Sunne and Moone so the Scripture and the Church as two lights shew light vnto vs The Scripture and Church compared to the Sun Moon but that you erre in the speciall as after it shall better appeare But the holy Scripture hath light in it selfe as the Sunne the Church is a light but borrowed from the Scripture as the Moone from the Sun these two I confesse are giuen vs of God to direct vs vnto eternall life But the Scripture directs vs with masterly authority the Church with her ministery for the holy Scripture is the wisdome of God in Christ inspired from aboue into holy men for the eternall saluation and perfection of the Church as the Apostle hath defined it God hath commended the Scripture to the Church The office of the Church as an heauenly charge that it may discerne expound keep and publish it to men the Scripture is therefore mens master but the Church is Gods minister Therefore the Apostle calles the truth the foundation of the Church and the Church the piller of truth as Salomon made his chariot to haue a golden axtree and pillers of siluer vnderstanding by the axetree the sound doctrin of the Messias by the pillers the faithfull teachers of the same § 127 It is a wicked thing therefore to detract from the maiestie of the holy Scripture and it is vniust to derogate from the ministery of the true Church for the Scripture is the truth of God The office of the Scripture and the Church is the house of God the truth is the golden foundation of this house and this house is the siluer piller of this truth that is cut out of the truth as out of the rocke as Chrysostome obserueth So if the Scripture be the base of the Church then the Church is the piller of the word as he spake very wittily Now reason teacheth that the foundation is not sustained by the house but the house by the foundation And religion concludes from thence that truth makes the Church not the Church the truth For the approbation of the truth is the working cause of the Church For before it do approue the written word of God it is but a company of Infidels and Idolaters after it hath approoued it it beginneth to be the familie of the faithful worshippers of God that is a Church Further although the Church by the Spirit doe discerne the true Scripture from the false yet the Scripture being once knowen and acknowledged as before it made so after it sheweth the Church For what more certain note can there be of shewing a thing then the working cause of the thing Againe what priuiledge soeuer the Church doth rightly challenge to it selfe it receiued from the Scripture as that which calleth the Church the piller of truth Therefore the truth of the Scripture is more ancient in time more perspicuous for the light and greater for authority then the Church which when it once receiueth her essence light and power from the Scripture then at last as a piller it vpholdeth with her ministery the truth in respect of men and reueales it to the inhabitants of the earth and it is that ground whereon men both may and ought to leane and rest Lawes vpon pillers so the Scriptures on the Church Whereupon the Propheticall and Apostolicall doctrine is said to bee the foundation of the Church the Church is the strength of doctrine not the foundation It is euident therfore that the Church is founded and sustained by the truth and that the truth is sustained and reuealed by the Church once founded as it were a watch-tower for trauellers to direct them into heauen The Heathens were wont to write their lawes in tables and hang them vp vpon pillers to bee read of the people The Apostle describing the Church compareth it to such a piller the vse wherof was to shew the Law when it selfe was not the Law So the true Orthodoxe and Catholike faith being written in the tables of the Scripture is fastned to the Church as it wereto a most beautifull piller as a most strong prop which resteth vpon it not with its owne but a borrowed strength Wherefore the Apostle in the second to the Ephesians defines the Church when in the second to Timothie hee describes it For there hee argueth from the causes heere from the effects in each place he vnderstandeth the Church of Ephesus that is a particular Church In the first place he teacheth what made that in the second what that did nor so much what it alway doth for of necessitie the foundation being taken away the Church must fall as it happened first to the Church of Ephesus and afterward to the Church
principall article But so doth heresie besmere ouer the lip of the cuppe as it were with honie that it may be taken and goe downe the more merily As Pius the 4 who brought in the Constantinople creed which he calleth the Rom creed as a preface before the new creede being their owne Which when it seem'd to me to be vnworthily done I thought good to discourse of this new Creede of the faith composed by the Pope in a wicked intent being the summe of Antichristianitie in a Latin Dialogue diuided into three bookes The first Dialogue bringeth in Antichrist as an Actor on the stage the second and third as a Doctor in the chayre The first doth fully describe the practise of the Beast and therefore is termed Pragmaticall Antichrist or Hildebrand restored to life Taking that name from Caesar Baronius Caes Baron in sentent sua contra Venet. who to prouoke Paul the fift against the Venetians Me thinkes saith he I see sitting in Peters chaire Gregorie the 7. and Alexander the 3. two rootes of the Church libertie now decayed both issuing out of the Citie of Senes whence your Holinesse takes your beginning whereof the one did bring vnder Henry that obstinate Emperor thother did vanquish Fredericke very stoutly opposing himselfe against him You must take in hand the same quarrell Therefore Paul the 5. in Baronius iudgement is Hildebrand brought to life againe And if the Pope by Baronius perswasion doe Gregorize or Alexandrize with Princes I pray to God for Iesus Christ his sake to preserue our Prince that hee may Henrize and Frederize but with better successe with the Popes The second and third Dialogue discourse of the articles of Antichrist and therefore is entitled Dogmaticall Antichrist or The Popes Creede because it conteyneth the articles publikely to be professed but chiefly that incomprehensible supremacie which to the Papists is a transcendent when it had not a being with the Apostles being the head of Goliah an euill head or a head full of all mischiefes which you shall perceiue in the second Dialogue by all meanes defended yet you shall say with a stone cast out of the word of God to bee well broken But because hee hath made a scepter of his Crosiers staffe the second Dialogue is rightly termed The ruling Pastor I follow after as I can but not with equall paces certaine notable Fathers of our Church who when as they first refute the graue as they seeme and probable opinions of Antichrist earnestly and soundly doe afterward pleasantly and wittily laugh at his foolish and harmefull Institutions Truth doth somtime laugh at heresie because shee is safe and secure as Tertullian saith Scuâ—tile iesting doth not beseeme a Diuine but a witty conceit arising from the matter in question which ridiculous Antichrist cannot choose but vtter to euery one be he neuer so sober in his fained grauitie and pastorall maiestie Wisely said the Poet An earnest iest Doth more stoutly and better somtime set out great matters But the Papists take it in ill part that their Pope compared to the King is scoft at as though hee extended his Empire in Iaponia beyond the fieldes of Cuticalindon and they be greiued that the Cardinalls vanitie proudly comparing himselfe to the King is pleasantly flouted at but that the flourishing meddow in purgatorie deuised by the old Doctour is scoft at they take very hainously But who may not thinke that such odious comparisons such proud vanities such foolish old-wiues-tales should not rather bee laught at with a pleasant iest then put off with an earnest argument as the Prophet laught at the wicked fooleries of the Baalites and the Apostle called the circumcision of the false Apostles pleasantly concision So ridiculous bee these toyes which they tearme holy deceites their vanities be so insolent which they cast vpon the people as bridles to deceiue them that a wise man euen in the darke night of poperie could not choose but deride the Pope Henrie the second when hee had honourably entertained the Popes Legate at Windsor and in hunting had caught a stagge Looke my Lord said he how fat the stagge is and yet he neuer heard Masse And when Ottobone an other of the Popes Lagates was purposed to lay a heauie curse vpon certaine noble men that rebelled and came to that purpose to Killingworth being attired in his purple robe and his red Cardinalles hat it is said that they being all in white and putting a surplasse vpon a Surgeon whom they had got to curse Ottobone with the like curse brake out into this iest that a curse of one in white was as terrible as the curse of a purple Priest That which was lawfull for Kings and Peeres the popish sons of the Pope to vtter against the pride and superstition of the Pope I pray let it bee lawfull for a King who doth not acknowledge the Pope for his Father to reprooue sometime with a pleasant iest that superstition which he hath learned out of the word to be not onely very hurtfull but often very foolish As that learned Marnixius in his Bee-hiue when he derideth both the other vanities of poperie and also those fained cells in hell with a continued irony and pleasant dissembling I should maruell if the Pope and Bellarmine should not like the two South-sayers laugh betweene themselues when they see the world so fit to be cousoned by them But I my selfe truly will follow after not iests but arguments And I rather greeue then laugh when I thinke of the Pope that great scourge of God Neither doe I hate a Papist but popery I taxe heresie not the men and I wish an ouerthrow to heresie saluation to the men Our bookes are taught this fashion to bring in To spare their persons and to taxe their sinne I would not haue thought it meete to taxe the person of a Iesuite if he had not laide open his person who is more deare vnto vs then our liues to the sword of souldiers being first wounded with the quill of a goose Whose booke might haue profited the very slaunderers themselues euen to their saluation if they had had in them but one crumme of grace whereto agreeth that speech of the wise Poet. He doth deserue both pricke and praise Who so with profite pleasure layes But whenas the Iesuits do shew themselues not only Aristarchi that is reprehenders of our writings Cicero in piso as the Orator said but censors like Phalaris neither doe they set a note vpon our writings but persecute our writers with fire and fagot and doe not only sprincle ouer our bookes with blacke salt but our Court with hell dust they may con our men thankes who for such deedes giue but such wordes and suffer themselues sometime to be galled with the freedom of style whom they haue hurt with the furie of their wickednesse Wherein our owne men should haue beene more fauourable to our owne writers being so excellent for holinesse and learning whom yet
distinguish of the proposition and that out of Gods booke which considereth the Church after 2. sorts 1. After the inward truth and the outward profession 2. After the outward profession only As blessed Iohn calleth the Church of Sardis the Church of Christ although it had greeuously fallen from the doctrine of Christ Why so Because as yet it professed the name of Christ and retained the sacrament of Baptisme and because certain lay hid among them who had not polluted themselues So the Church of Rome may bee called the Church of God and of Christ because it professeth the name of Christ because it retaineth certaine footsteps and outward markes of a visible Church as Baptisme the Decalogue the creed The Papists haue the truth as the Philistines had the Arke the Lords Prayer but notes miserably corrupted as the Philistines who retained among them the Arke of Gods presence but they felt it to bee to them the Arke of pestilence as the Cutthites the bastard Israelites who had Moses bookes and would at once feare God and worship Idoles As the Samaritanes their successors who brag'd that they had Iacobs well among them when they had infected the well of the water of life Therefore the Delegates did iustly complaine of the Church of Rome in the Councell of Trent That that was true which God complained by Ieremie This people haue committed two euills one they haue forsaken me the fountaine of liuing water The other they haue digged to themselues cesternes which can hold no water Although I cannot denie that certaine relikes of the inuisible Church doe lie hidden in the same who haue not bended their knee to Baal But as it is said to the Church of Sardis You haue a name that you liue but you are dead that may deseruedly be spoken of the Romish Church in respect of the inward faith the soule of the Church you are starke dead although in outward profession you are said to liue You are called the Temple of God because you reteyne the name of Christ but you are the whore of Babylon because you haue forsaken the faith The temple of God equiuocally not vniuocally for an equiuocall Church is good enough for aequiuocating Christians Now the ten hornes that is the ten Kings haue one purpose as the Angell speaketh to giue ouer his virtue and his power to the beast Her they will serue they will loue and seeke after her her they will susteyne with their forces at her booke they will draw the sword and being confederaed in holy leagues both with the beast and within themselues will fight with the Lambe but after that the Lambe shall by litle and litle begin to weaken and consume Antichrist by the preaching of his word then the ten hornes which before had to doe with the whore shall begin to hate her and leaue her forsaken and naked CHAP. XXII An aduise to Princes to ioyne against the Pope 8 WHich cannot bee said of old but of new Rome whereof a great part of the prophecie is now fulfilled For the Pope hath lost as Bellarmine bemoaneth a great part of Germanie Suetia Gothia Noruegia all Denmarke a good part of England France Heluetia Polonia Bohemia and Pannonia He might better haue said all England and ioyn'd Scotland and Ireland thereto but that he would shew he hath a litle vaine hope in certaine secret and broken relicks of Antichrist among vs. I would to God that as the Kings of Great Britannie with many other great Princes haue cast of the whore A desire that France and Spaine would forsake the Pope so the Kings of France and Spaine would forsake her Rome is more to be feared of them then of our Britaine King whose Crowne is more free whose succession more certaine whose subiects more loyall whose kingdome is more remote and shut vp from popish assaults I would that so mighty Princes this Princes confederates would follow his valour and holines in this point whereby they might wholy fulfill the prophecie It is not for men of meane condition to giue counsell but to make prayers while they expound this so holy and waightie prophecie If not to aduise yet to wish first that those two potent Kings would ioyne with the King of Great Britaine and others those worthy Kings and Princes of the Reformed Church against Antichrist Next that if they doe make a secret league with Antichrist and within themselues against the Kings and Princes of the Reformed Church that all our side would make a holy League with all possible haste and take heed that our neighbours and brethren the Protestants of France and Flanders be not vnawares opprest by them whiles ours neglect them But wee may not make warres with our neighbour Kings But we ought to take heed lest they bring in a very dangerous warre vpon vs. But we must be addicted to peace True which hath no treacherie nor deceipt otherwise an holy warre is to be preferred before a trecherous peace whereto the Holy Ghost doth exhort Kings that with vnited forces they destroy and ouerthrow the whore of Babylon that is Rome as Bellarmine himselfe confesseth CHAP. XXIII The ouerthrow of Rome AS the Angell doth continue his prophecie to the last ouerthrow of the whore which cannot agree with heathenish and imperiall Rome for this ouerthrow doth follow the dissolution of the old Empire and the diuision thereof into ten kingdomes which according to the prophecie would that the whore should first perish afterward themselues should consume and destroy it Therefore this ouerthrow belongeth to Rome that is popish but christian in name as the Angell did notably expound it for whereas shee is said to sit vpon many waters that is many people and many nations as the Angell expounds it ver 15. and whereas the woman is called the great Citie which beareth rule ouer the Kings of the earth ver 18. nothing doth hinder but that it may be popish Rome But that popish Rome is not rightly said to haue gouerment first it is sufficient that Rome then Imperiall is described to be the seate wherein the whore of Babylon shall beare rule afterward Againe they which call her the kingdome of the Romanes Turrianus the kingdome of Priests doe confesse that shee beareth rule who haue very cunningly changed the secular kingdome into a spirituall that which Aquinas the Angelicall Doctor doth obserue Aquinas But so excellent a prophecie did not onely looke into the age then present but foresaw the age long after to follow And therefore the description of the whore is first set out in all her parts as you see and after her destruction which cannot be vnderstood of the burning of Ethnicke Rome by the Gothes and Vandales 10 but by a finall and sodaine destruction as it were a myllstone cast by great force into the sea For it shall not saith the Angell be found againe any more which cannot agree to Ethnicke Rome for after it had receiued
I conclude both out of the Scripture and out of the fathers that Antichrist was to sit in the Temple of God that was in the Church And therefore that Antichrist was not to sit in the temple of Ierusalem Hierome with many other Fathers haue determined And yet this Pythagoras who thinks that his he said so will satisfie fooles doth boldly affirme that he shall sit in the Temple of Ierusalem to be builded againe by him Bellarmine fighteth with himselfe Wherein see I pray you how hee fighteth with himselfe The temple reedified of Antichrist is the Temple of the Deuill But Antichrist shall fit saith he in a Temple reedified by himselfe Therefore he shall sit in the Temple of the deuill not therefore in the Temple of God Vnlesse happily he will change the temple of God into the temple of the Deuill Besides that Antichrist shall sit at Rome as the Rhemists themselues confesse Not therefore at Ierusalem vnlesse peraduenture Ierusalem moued out of her place shall passe ouer to Rome Which perchance they can bring to passe who change the three wisemen of the east into 3. The Papists alter east from weast Kings of Sheba in the west For Sheba stands west from the citie Ierusalem and Chaldee whence they came stands east I cannot see therefore but by the same power they may as well carry Ierusalem to Rome as turne the east into the west I haue euicted before euen by the confession of the Aduersarie That Rome is the seat and citie of Antichrist and yet they proue by a strang kinde of Logicke that Ierusalem is the seat of Antichrist For where Gods two witnesses saith he are killed of Antichrist there is the seat of Antichrist But those two witnesses shall be killed by Antichrist at Ierusalem Apoc. 11.7 Therefore Antichrist his seat is at Ierusalem He takes the proposition for granted which for all that standes in great neede of proffe For wheresoeuer Antichrist shall kill 2. witnesses of God that there he shall haue his seat No more then if some great Prince such an one as they would haue Antichrist to be should there be said to haue the seat of his Empire wheresoeuer his authoritie was of power to kill his enemies Do you not know that Kings haue stretcht-out hands Tiberius hand stretcht out it selfe as farre as Ierusalem to crucifie Christ though he sate at Rome Antichrist hath a long hand whose hand reacheth farther to kill Gods two witnesses then where he sits not euer where Antichrist rageth there he sitteth The proposition then generally taken is false particularly vnderstood is a paralogisme The assumption also is very false for the holy Ghost doth call not Ierusalem but Rome or rather the Rom Empire that great Citie in whose streets the bodies of those two witnesses shall lye slaine and that great Citie is called spiritually Sodome and Egipt where our Lord was crucified Hierusalem aboue is called the holy Citie after Christ his passion how then here is it spiritually called Sodome and Egipt Apoc 11.8 Ierusalem in the Apocalyps taken for the holy Citie alwaies as Hierom writes to Marcella Ierusalem is alway taken in the Apocalyps for the holy Citie Rome for the great Citie which hath the gouernment ouer the Kings of the earth which cannot agree with Ierusalem Besides the word spiritually toucheth Rome very neere for as Rome is mystically Babylon so it is spiritually Sodome and Egipt Sodome for her pride and vncleannesse Rome compared to Babylon Sodom and Egypt ☜ Egipt for her idolatrie and crueltie against the Saints for who is so blinde that can not see that Rome is the chappell of Idolls the stewes of lust the queene of pride the shambles of Saints and the den of King-killers and therefore shee is truly spirituall Sodom and Egipt But where our Lord was crucified there Gods two witnesses were murthered by Antichrist Christ how crucified at Rome But not at Rome but at Ierusalem he was crucified Therefore not at Rome but at Ierusalem those two witnesses shall be killed We denie the assumption At Rome in that great Citie that is in the Romane Empire our Lord was crucified First because by the commandement and authoritie of the Rom Empire Christ himselfe was crucified Apoc. 17.18 as the Rhemists doe confesse Secondly because Christ in his members is often crucified at Rome Thirdly he was not crucified within Ierusalem but without as S. Paul witnesseth to the Heb cap 13. v. 12. Lastly because Ierusalem before the Apocalyps which was extant about the end of Domitian being vtterly ouerthrowne together with their Temple was neuer to be built againe as we haue formerly euicted out of the prophecie of Daniel who saith that the desolation of the Temple and Citie shall continue vntill the end of the world as Hierom expounds out of the words of Christ Neither doe the friuolous answers of Bellarmine much trouble me wherewith he presumes as he writeth that Daniel would haue said something that he doth not say as if hee could not say what he would and therefore he faines that the Prophet spake thus Either that the Temple should not be reedified till a litle before the end of the world or else as it was desolated before it was reedified so the abomination of desolation i. Antichrist should remaine in the same re-edified to the end of the world or else that it should neuer be fully built againe Ierusalem the figure of the Christian Church but that Antichrist should sit in the Temple begun and not finished Ierusalem is wholy the figure of the Christian Church which after it was built vp by the preaching of the Gospell among the Gentiles there was an end both of the Citie and Temple of Ierusalem Matth 24.14 as Christ prophecied Daniels best Interpreter who foretold the abomination of desolation that is the abominable and desolate winges What is ment by the abomination of desolation vnderstanding the Eagles and the Legions of the Romanes as Luke expoundeth should bring a finall destruction to the Citie and Temple so that the desolation of them both should continue to the end of the world as Christ explaineth foreshewing that Ierusalem being ouerthrowne of the Romanes Luc 21.22 23 24. shall be troden vnder foote of the Gentiles till the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled i. till hee shall come to iudgement which is described in the next words So that the bounds of the Christian Church being enlarged the Citie and Temple should haue their last end by the testimonie of Christ for the truth appearing the type faded away So that the primitiue Church beleeued that Ierusalem was turned into eternall ashes Ad Marcel and Hierom calleth the opinion of some who thought the Temple should be restored a meere Iewish fable Therefore Bellarmine in Hieroms iudgement who dreames of the restoring of the Temple is not a Christian Doctor but a Iewish Babler Vnlesse hee be worse to be
openly inuade the Church For such persecution becommeth Antichrist the Pope it becommeth not And why because there bee so many hypocrites and false brethren in the Church hee meaneth the Romane I grant it it is a defence full of truth The Pope that great hypocrite The Pope that great hypocrite must needes beget sons like himselfe arrant hypocrites and dissemblers But I feare I may not grant him that where hee saith that hypocrites and syncere Christians whom as chaffe and wheat Christ saith are not to bee diuided before the day of his comming Bellarmine affirmes that they are to be separated before the comming of Antichrist Hence thus I dispute When all hypocrites shall be made knowen Antichrist shall come When Christ commeth all hypocrites shall bee made knowen Therfore when Christ commeth Antichrist shall come Therefore Antichrist shall bee not a beast of three yeere olde but a beast of a day olde vnlesse he thinke that Antichrist shall come after the comming of Christ and the end of the world for that which hee addes in the end that there shall bee such a persecution vnder Antichrist that all the publike ceremonies and sacrifices of religion shall cease is a meere dotage He wholly forgets what is set downe by the Apostle that Antichrist shall be a notable hypocrite not an outward but an homebred enemy who with fained holinesse and sanctity shall entice and deceiue simple people as Acosta Viega Pererius Ribera foure principall Iesuits doe plainely set downe and by this meanes doe greatly weaken Bellarmines idle demonstration Which let vs waigh if you please The publike worship of God and the daily sacrifice of Christians vnder the persecution of Antichrist shall cease at that time when Antichrist shall come The worship of God and the sacrifice of Christians is not ceast Therefore as yet Antichrist is not come Hee prooues his poposition out of the 12. Dan. 12.5.11 of Daniel vers 11. from that time when the dayly sacrifice shall be taken away are 1290. daies where Daniel Bellarmine against Daniel if wee credit Bellarmine speaks of Antichrist Daniel himselfe gaine-saying it who expounds himselfe chap. 8. v. 11. chap. 11. vers 13. directly affirming that the daily worship of God shall bee taken away by Antiochus Epiphanes and his army speaking not of the daily sacrifices of Christians but of the daily sacrifices of the Iewes The manner of the Iewes was to offer sacrifice to God morning and euening which they called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which sacrifice was taken away by Antiochus as Iosephus and the author of the first booke of Macchabees and Chrysostome plainely witnesse And to Daniel demanding when the end of these euils shall be God answers from that time When the daily sacrifice shall bee taken away and the abomination of desolation set vp whereof hee spake chap. 11. vers 31. that there should bee 1290 dayes to the restoring thereof and the deliuerance of the Iewes from Antiochus tyranny Of this restoring and deliuerance I shewed out of Daniel Diuers degrees of deliuerance that there were diuers degrees noted by Daniel at diuers times For from the hinderance of the worship of God to the first restoring of the same by Iudas Macchabeus the Prophet saith there were three yeeeres and tenne dayes which space chap. 7. vers 25. hee called a time times and a peece of time To the victory of Iudas Macchabeus when hee draue Antiochus forces out of Iury and so did establish the first restitution Daniel saith there was three yeeres and an halfe which space chap. 12. v. 7. he calleth a time times and halfe a time To the time wherein Antiochus strucken by the hand of God promised he would restore the Iewish religion hee vnderstands there were 1290. Bellarmine mistaken in taking away the daily sacrifice dayes to the time of his death 1335. in all which numbers the prophesies of Daniel and histories of Iosephus and the Macchabees doe very well agree I maruell the more that Bellarmine was so blinde in the prophesie and so ignorant in the history that he dreameth that the publike worship of God and sacrifice of the Iewes taken away by the most greeuous persecution of Antiochus within three yeere and a halfe should bee the like publike worship of God and sacrifice of the Christians taken away by the persecution of Antichrist three yeeres and a hafe before the end of the world Hee confirmes the assumption by experience which doth testifie that the publike worship of God was neuer taken away by the Pope that the sacrifice of the Christians neuer ceased He means the masse and other publique voluntary worships of the degenerated Church of Rome which the Creede shall make plaine to be neither worship of God nor the sacrifice of Christians So the proposition is fetcht out of the Scripture misunderstood the assumption is the begging of the thing in question And is not this a worthy demonstration CHAP. XL. Of the 5. note of the continuance of Antichrists kingdome Now to the 2. last signes following 1. The continuance of the kingdome of Antichrist 3. yeares and a halfe 2. The dissolution or end of the world fiue and fortie daies after And doe not these make as doughtie a demonstration as the former An impossibilitie The kingdome of Antichrist must last iust three yeares and a halfe All which time is not sufficient for the gathering of the Iewes together dispersed ouer the face of the whole earth much lesse for the building againe of the temple which is so defaced and raced that not one stone is left vpon another 2. Chr. 2.2 The 2. buildings of the temple described The first building whereof in great peace in great prouision of all necessaries by the most exquisite workmen the number of whom the scripture sets downe to be a hundred and fiftie thousand could not be perfected in lesse then 7. yeares by Salomon But the second reedifying of it being oft hindred by the incursion of a neere enemie and their own frights that often the worke was interrupted the high wales and the stately roofe vncouered and was not finished vnder 46. yeares Ioh. 2. And yet Bellarmine allots but three yeares and a halfe to so great a worke He doth to good purpose imagine Antichrist to be an Enchanter who can call foorth spirits out of hell and send them as Messengers Note being carried on the wings of the winde to gather the Iewes with all speede out of all the coasts of the world and after may hire Marlines workmen to carry stones and lay them artificially in the worke But that he should in the same three yeares and a halfe bring into captiuitie all Christians subdue 10. Kings get the Monarchie of the world is a tale so incredible that Turkes may laugh at and Christians abhorre Let him write this to his fooles whom he teacheth that faith is not in the vnderstanding but in a blinde
truth and power to be ouercome by errour and wickednesse Assuredly hee will neuer suffer it The Christians therefore haue no cause to feare the Pope hath no cause to insult For the Pope alone hath all the markes of Antichrist The Pope alone therefore is Antichrist CHAP. XLII The scope and conclusion of the whole worke I Haue finished the Glasse Paul the fift set before you to see your selfe before others to look on themselues wherein Antichrist is fully set downe as in preface Heere you may see contained his right and true marks the false being reiected and cast by Euery of them in seuerall and all of them ioyntly together doe prooue the Pope to be that great Antichrist Hence it followeth that Popery is Antichristianity What hee is and who he is appeares out of the preface What he doth and what he teacheth out of the Dialogue diuided into three bookes First comes vpon the stage Antichrist pragmaticall In the two other bookes Antichrist dogmaticall There he carries himselfe like a Rebell heere like a Sophister there he doth impaire the glory of the Empire heere the truth of the Gospell there hee doth vndermine the faithfulnesse of subiects heere the faith of Christians The first booke doth propound the rules and grounds of Christian fealty and obedience toward Kings against Christian rebellion shadowed ouer with a shew of Catholike religion The other two doe erect the foundation and pillers of Christian doctrine and faith against the Antichristian heresie compacted of twelue new articles of the faith brought into the forme of a creede by Pius the fourth whereupon I call it the Popes creede I doe solemnely professe that I am afaithfull seruant of Christ and the King I doe not take vpon me being the meanest and the least of all other to giue warning vnto Kings once already warned by the great King not therefore to bee warned of any but of Christ the King of Kings Let Iesus Christ therefore bee in our thoughts a while who although he be absent in body yet present in spirit hath an interest and being yea and a gouernment also in the spirits of all Christians and chriefly of all Princes his bountie is to be loued his maiesty is to be dreaded euen of Kings for as the powerfull gouernment of Kings is to be dreadfull to their owne subiects so the most powerfull gouernment of God is to bee dreadfull to Kings of God I say manifested in the flesh who being present with them in spirit seemeth thus to speake and complaine CHAP. XLIII THE PROSOPOPEY I AM not ignorant who am ignorant of nothing ô yee Christian Kings and Princes that the Byshop of Rome my Vicare as he calles himselfe my Aduersarie The Pope both an hereticke and traytor as he carries himselfe hath beene a Teacher of heresie in the Church and a Practiser of treason in the common-weale for these many yeares For euer since hee was made the vniuersall Byshop he hath done nothing else but corrupted my Gospell and peruerted your Empire And no maruell for out of the corruption of the Gospell doth follow the dissolution of the Empire For whereas I haue erected by the Gospell a twofould pillar of gouernment Authoritie in Magistrates and Allegeance in Subiects it is strange to see the Gospell peruerted in the mindes of men how each pillar of gouernment falles to the grounds The greatest fault whereof is in the Byshops treacherie and in your slothfulnesse that whereas I had submitted all Byshops vnder your power and iudgement you haue suffered one to fly out so farre aboue the rest that he dare not onely rebell against yours but against my Maiestie also That therefore the ancient dignitie of the Empire may be recouered being lost and for euer maintained being recouered my counsell to you is that the truth of the Gospell shaken and long weakened by the Popes tyrannie may at last be restored by your princely authoritie For what is more reasonable then that I should haue you defenders of my glory whom I haue appointed Ministers of my power And if it were in question heretofore whether that Byshoppe were that Antichrist He is so prophetically described by my beloued Disciples Iohn and Paul that now it is out of question seeing that euent hath laid open and made cleare the prophecie For all the partes of the prophecie are so plainely interpreted All notes of Antichrist agree with the Pope of the succession of the persons the nature and disposition of the King and kingdome the acts of the beast the impression of the Character the number of his name the scituation of his seate the time of his reuealing the cuppe of the whore the kind of his marchandise the fall of Babylon lastly the comming in and going out the birth and death of Antichrist the last answering the first and the middle answering both with such a consent and barmonie inferring things to be fulfilled by things that are fulfilled that I could not haue made it clearer if I had named the Byshop of Rome himselfe And Antichristianity is well defined by my Apostle to be not iniquitie but the mysterie of iniquitie For if Antichrist had appeared to you in his owne likenesse you needed not to haue beene so carefull about the businesse Now that hee doth insinuate himselfe with a counterfet holinesse and a dissembled sanctity how many millions of innocent men hath he cosoned and deceiued with his hidden mysticall wickednesse But let the visard be taken off from this hidden Antichrist then none can hereafter be deceiued but he that will wittingly and willingly be deceiued Beware therefore that the old trickes and stratagemes being laid open beguile you no more He faineth himselfe to be the Prince of the couenant and yet he hath altered my couenant Hee pretendes himselfe to be a Keeper of my will and testament and yet he hath not only raced and defaced my testament The Pope hath altered Christ his Testament and brought in a new but hath foysted in one of his owne He termes himselfe the foundation of the Church and chalengeth to him my peculiar title and yet hee doth with cunning deuises subuert and ouerthrow my Church He makes a shew of great zeale to my crosse and yet doth annihilate the power of the crosse The holy Scripture makes mention of Gods double gouernment the Legale and Euangelicall The legale which hath the condition of working annext vnto it do this and thou shalt liue Ierem. 31.31 Heb. 8.5 ad finem The Euangelicall requireth the condition of beleeuing Beleeue and thou shalt be saued But it requireth faith not as a worke but as an instrument whereby you may receiue the promises of the spirit therefore that is called a conditionall this a free conuenant Where there is no couenant there is no faith and where there is no faith there is no saluation Humane faith doth rest vpon an humane couenant heauenly faith vpon a heauenly couenant Heauenly faith is
and the feete I would faine know whom they vnderstand to be the feete of the Church Some take them to bee Kings Inquitie after the inferiour members as Cardinall Poole some for learned men as Turriane most of all the Iesuits of his owne order Kinges who with their gouernment may sustaine this putrified head Iesuites who may doe the like with their wittes and may carrie it ouer among the Indies to domineer in the new found world To the which feete the Pope cannot truely say I haue no neede of you and therefore he giueth greater credit to the Iesuites then to those idle paunches the Monkes who in their howerly praiers spend their whole time in mumbling on their beads That that also may agree with the argument of your head which Paul hath in the same place that the greatest honor is put vpon the dishonestest members hence it may be other orders will conclude that the Iesuites are more dishonest then all the rest of the Monkes But I demand why there should not be many ministeriall heades when there be many ministeriall feete where be the two eyes wherby this metaphoricall head without braines may prye into the secrets of Kinges where be the two eares whereby they may listen after all reports where be the two hands whereby they may rake and gather in all mens monies if you answere that two are not necessarie for the head when the head hath many more we confesse that it is better for your head to encrease his treasure then to make good the argument For a duality of these members are more necessarie to make the vnitie of the head that a fit proportion may be reserued But this so honorable a title the head of the Church § 167 the head of faith being proper to Christ who liueth and raigneth in the heauens To make the Pope head is blasphemie so that hee bee present in earth with his Church with his maiestie and spirit yea that hee is within his Church to giue life and gouerne the same with his word to haue this communicable with a mortall man and a sinner cannot bee done without blasphemous contumelie Some thinges in Bellarmine are blasphemous some are friuolous these are both blasphemous and friuolous as this argument drawne from a metaphoricall head whereon the supremacy the cheifest foundation of their catholike religion doth depend And here see I pray you what discreet men may suspect who think the Cardinal to be learned they yeld so much to his wit that rather then they will thinke him to be a foolish disputer they take him as it seemes to be a secret betrayer of the cause He defends his head with so withered forces and ridiculous arguments that without any resistance of the Aduersarie hee will fall to the ground by his owne weaknesse That which the Oratour said to Mar. Callidius Cicer. in Bruto negligently and coldly defending the cause of his owne head and life Thou Mar. Callidius vnlesse thou dissemblest thou wouldst not thus plead This may more rightly bee spoken to this worthy patron of his head Thou Bellarmine if thou thoughtst as thou speakest wouldst thou handle a case of such importance so lazily so loosely For whereas out of the premisses Saturnine you gather a different beginning with Bellarmine of Ecclesiasticall and secular gouernment and from the diuers beginning of each power do draw a diuers nature of obedience due to each power and doe propound the twofold vse of this article to bee considered of all Catholikes because all this discourse doth so neerely touch the Kings crown dignity I leaue it to be discussed by Regius our Counseller wherefore Calander you are to entreat him that he would tell vs what he thinks in this matter and ease me of the labor of farther disputing § 168 Then Calander truely said hee when I diligently marke all the parts of your answer I perceiue little or nothing making for this our vniuersall Ecclesiasticall Prince to be in the text For if Christ gaue the key not a scepter as well to all the Apostles and Ministers as to Peter and gaue a Bishops staffe not a sword and ordained Peter not to bee the head but a member and not the foundation of the building but a worke man as not onely many ancient but Popish interpreters of the Scripture doe teach with one consent where I pray you shall I finde grounded plainely vpon the text that vniuersall Church gouernment as they call it vnlesse peraduenture we may call Peter the Prince of the Apostles as we call Homer the Prince of Poets Demosthenes the Prince of Oratours and Plato the Prince of Philosophers Wherefore my good friend Charles I entreat thee that as Patriott hath layd open the truth of God obscured by diuers sophismes so you would free the dignity of Princes being defaced by Popish vsurpation as it becommeth one that is of counsell with the King which I euer held more deere to mee then my life euen then when I was most nousled vp in popery Then Regius All power said he is from God it is Either Ordained And that two fold Ecclesiasticall § 169 Secular The diuision of power Tolerated The Ecclesiasticall 1. If you respect Christ it is Monarchicall or gouerned by one for all power is giuen to him alone by the father both in heauen and earth 2. If you respect men is is Aristocraticall or gouerned by many and those the cheifest as Patriott confirmed out of Paul Therefore this your spirituall Prince Saturnine chosen a Monarch by himselfe a King at his owne pleasure a supposed Vicar of Christ an vniuersall Bishop ordained not by Christ the maintainer of Kings but by Phocas the murtherer of kings at that very time when as Mahomet that false Prophet his brother came into the world successor not of Peter but of Romulus what power hee hath immediately to rule ouer Kings when Peter himselfe had none at all I vnderstand that it is but tolerated As the Dragon hath from whom the two horned beast tooke all his power as Iohn testifieth in the Apocalyps Therefore this power is not ordained but tolerated not for the comfort of the world but for the plague not an holy ordinance but to bee a scourge for the Saints But there is a certaine spirituall power immediately from God True but that which promotes the Kingdome of light not that which promotes the Kingdome of darknesse which is immediately from the Diuell such as the wofull experience of many ages hath proued you Popish power to be Therfore to your spirituall Prince holding the seate of the Dragon spirituall obedience is no more due to him then to the Dragon § 170 But secular power whether it consist in many in few or in one although it be in Nero yet it is immediately ordained of God as Paul hath taught and to that purpose is called by him the ordinance of God But that Secular power from God will some say
may be sayd of the secular tyrannicall power as of Tyberius and Nero which may be said of the Popish tyrannicall power as of Gregorie the 7. or Paul the 5. true in respect of the abuse But the ordination of the secular power is of God the abuse of the Diuell Therefore Pilates power which condemned Christ is not sayd to bee tolerated from aboue but giuen from aboue It was therefore a wicked power not a vsurped power as Austin thought wicked in respect of tyranny not vsurped in respect of the ordination but the power of this Prelate I may say this Pilate as Bernard spake it is not onely wicked but vsurped I conclude therfore out of the Apostles principle for the secular power against Bellarmine All power ordained is immediately from God by the witnesse of Paul All secular power whether it bee by the people by the Princes or by the King is a power ordained For reason which is a glimmering of the diuine light doth suggest that all societies must be subiect to one of these whether it bee simple or mixt for the good of common safety Therefore all secular power is immediatly from God § 171 But the title of the power is not diuine but humane therefore the secular Prince hath mediately power and gouernment to rule ouer these or those subiects Bellarmine in his answer to a booke entituled an answer of a Doctor of Diuity to an Epistle written to him by a reuerend freind of the monition of the censures from the Pope denounced against the Venetians either election comming betweene as the Emperour or succession as the Kings of France Spaine and England or grant as the free Princes as the Popes in their own Dominion for so he might haue sayd or by iust war as Godfrey heretofore c. Very ignorantly He doth not distinguish between the title of the power and the power it selfe The title is the condition without the which the power is not obtained to this or that King ouer those or these subiects The power is that authority and iurisdiction which God doth giue immediately to a Prince as Paul teacheth The Cardinall therfore vniesuited as I may so say did abuse that most renowned French King If any man said he should demand of the most Christian King by what right hee holdeth France or maketh Lawes hee shall not answer by the Law of God but by the title of hereditarie succession Yea truely the noble King might haue answered otherwise according to that wit wherewith hee was endued being demanded why he bare rule ouer his subiects or made lawes That hee did it not by the right of hereditarie succession but by the ordinance of that power which hee receiued immediately from God Inheritance doth not giue that power but it is a property necessarie in that man to whom God doth immediately giue that power That subiects may giue reuerence to their Kings not for blouds sake but for Gods sake Goe to and what if one should demand of Paul the fift by what right hee holdeth his Popedome he will answer as he is taught not by the title of mans election but by the Law forsooth of God Therfore the Popes power is by Gods Law as it seemeth although his election bee by the Cardinals Why then may not the Kings power be by the Law of God thogh his succession be from his ancestours for whose condition seemes to be like why should their iurisdiction be dislike The Cardinall therefore deales very vniustly who denieth that to the King which he granteth to the Pope § 172 But the malapert Cardinall did trie the patience of the most Christian King The cruell dealing of the Iesuites with the French King as another of his order a bloody nouist strucke out his tooth when he meant to cut his throat But now the Iesuites doe blesse the King but the King as oft as he cheweth his meate its maruell he doe not curse the Iesuites who while the controuersie depended about the expulsion of the Iesuites receiued a wound from Iohn Chastile and the bloud issued out of his mouth spake pleasantly as his vse was Now at the last the Iesuites being conuicted by my mouth must bee cast out That his friends may greeue that they were brought backe againe by that mouth as innocent and cleered who were the authours of so cruell a murther whose scholler did thrust that valiant King to the heart After the same manner Tom. 11. Baronius that testie olde man did entertaine the Catholike King Philip the second the Champion of their Church for with-holding Sicilie and Naples from the Church Whom will they spare if they spare not the Spaniard What may the Defender of the Faith expect of these fellowes who doe thus entertaine the Christian and Catholike Kings But although there be no truth yet there is some equitie in Bellarmine Bellarmines lewde dealing with all Princes Hee spareth no Princes not those of his owne side Hee holdeth that those who bee Catholike in faith if they beginne to be wicked are to be driuen by the cheife Pastour from the flocke and depriued of their kingdome as well as heretickes Those as giddie headed rammes that they hurt not with their hornes these as rauenous wolues that they deuoure not the flocke So scornfully doth this Braggadochian Cardinall terme the Excellencies and Maiesties of the Christian world The world doth not maruel that Preists be so sawcy but it wonders that Kings bee so patient that they will suffer Princely crownes to be tumbled vp and down by them as foot-bals and the prerogatiues of kingdomes to be so weakned diminished by schoole distinctions For this Cardinall like a bad archer doth strike his confederate next neighbour-kings while he doth directly leuell and aime but in vaine against Iames the King of Great Britaine whom God still defend from his treacherie But to the argument Hee denieth all secular Princes to haue any power immediately giuen from God to rule ouer subiects But it is well that hee doth affirme euen in the same § 173 chapter in as manie words that secular Princes haue power immediately from God to rule their subiects as they are superiors and he alleageth a good reason because the commandement of obedience is immediately from God and this is true For he cannot bee superiour and aboue other if he doe not rule neither can he be a subiect that is not bound to obey And yet againe in the end If secular Princes saith he haue no power immediately from God ouer the Laity much lesse ouer the Cleargie therefore ouer none Which hee granted before Is it so indeede will some say yea truely looke vpon the place Hee is both vnconstant vnlearned you shall see Bellarmine affirming and denying the same predicate of the same subiect and that in respect of the same and that in one and the same chapter Let this great Logician be packing who sends his aduersaries to turne ouer Aristotles
seat of the Empire which so many fathers in fiue Synodes gathered together would neuer haue sayd if they had iudged the primacie of Peter had beene founded vpon the institution of Christ What can we imagine that so cheife an article of the Catholike faith was vnknowen to fathers so many for number so famous for holinesse so excellent for learning and that in fiue seuerall the most renowned generall Councels If the supremacie was plainely grounded vpon the Scripture Note then did the Councels very ill to take away the supremacie If the Councels did well in taking it a way certainely the supremacie is not so plainely founded vpon the Scripture If you shall lay enuie to their charge whereby men of such iustice and integrity would not behold a matter so manifest we will wonder at it If you obiect ignorance to them that hauing eies in their heads they could not see wee will laugh at it Neither can wee conceiue any other cause alleadged by you but either blinde enuie or enuious blindnesse An irony Concordan li. 2 cap. 13. O blind or enuious Cusan who rested content in the decrees of these Councels and whatsoeuer right belongeth to the Pope doth thinke the same was giuen him by the Church Dâ—fens part 2. de cap. 18. O malicious and dull pated Marsilius Patauine who thought he had no power either aboue Bishops or other Churches by any Law either diuine or humane but that onely which was giuen the Pope either absolutely or for a time in the Nicene Councell If all this power was giuen first by the Scripture not therefore by the Church if by the Church as Cusan and Marsilius say not therefore by the Scripture § 187 The sixt Councell was the Councell of Carthage in the yeere of Christ 418. The Councel of Carthage of 217. Bishops wherein 217. Bishops were assembled among whom Austin was present In which Councell as in the rest the power of all the Patriarches was made equall the right of appealing to the Bishop of Rome to such as were condemned by the Archbishop of their owne Diocesse was denied Which Cardinall Bellarmine notwithstanding doth auow to belong to all Bishops by the Law of God Cap. 25. de primi Rom. sedis yea if any were condemned by a Synode of their own prouince among the Antipodes they might prouoke to the consistorie of the Bishop of Rome Which Cardinall I thinke liues not in our Horizon but with the Antipodes who is wont to tread contrarie steps against so many men aliue not only of ours but against his own Doctors also Vnlesse peraduenture he descended lower then the Antipodes who dare be so bold to goe against so many holy fathers being dead He doth admit with his followers many fraudulent deuices whereby he goeth about to weaken the authoritie of this Councell Boniface the second with one blot of a greeuous accusation doth wipe out all the decrees of that Councell and damnes them all For hee saith that Aurelius sometime Bishop of the Church of Carthage with the rest of his Colleagues among whom was S. Austin began to waxe proud at the instigation of Satan in the times of Boniface and Celestine his predecessours against the Romane Church It is a hard case to say that Austin with his Colleagues at the instigation of Sathan beganne to waxe proud against the Church because they had resisted both by their decrees and letters three proud Romane Bishops Zozimus Boniface and Celestine in a iust cause common to all Churches Apiarius a wicked Preist whom for his lewdnesse in § 188 discharge of his ministerie Apiarius Vrbane the Bishop had iustly depriued appealed to Zozimus Bishop of Rome who sent three Legates Faustine Philip and Asellus to the Councell at Carthage in fauour and aid of Apiarius them he enioyned among other things that they should lay claime in his name to the right of appeales to him and his seat if anie Bishop accused or condemdemned did appeale to Rome that the Bishop of Rome might commit that cause by his letters to bee determined by the next prouinces or send Legates from his side who might sit about the businesse in his turne and with other Bishops might determine of the whole matter To that purpose he deliuered to his Legates the title and instrument of his right written with his owne hand the Canon of the Nycene Councell Concil Carthag 6. cap. 3. whereby he affirmed that the right of appeales was bestowed vpon him The fathers of the Carthaginian Councell assoone as they had heard the Legates answered that they neuer had read anie such thing in the canons of the Councell of Neece and withall willed the Legates that if they had that canon they should giue it to Daniel the publike Notary A false canon offered for a true to reade it openly They in stead of the canon of the Nicene Councel offer the third chapter of the Councel of Sardis but mangled and gelded For in the authenticke it is thus written Osius said If any Bishop be condemned for any cause and thinketh that he haue no euill but a good cause that the iudgement may be againe renewed doth it please you that for charitie we honor the memorie of Peter the Apostle that it may be written of them who haue examined the cause to Iulius the Bishop of Rome and if he shall thinke that the iudgement is to be renewed it be renewed appoint Iudges to that end But if he proue the cause to be such that those things be not repealed which were already spred those which he decreeth shall stand firme if this please all the Sinode answered It pleaseth Council Sard cap 3. apud Surium Tom 1. The Pope corrupteth the words of Osius But the Bishop of Rome curtoling those words of Osius Doth it please you that for charitie we honor the memorie of Peter the Apostle and by writ to Iulius the Rom Bishop goeth on thus Osius the Bishop said It pleaseth that if a Bishop be accused and the Bishops of the same Country being assembled shall iudge and depose him from his degree if be that is cast of do appeale and flye to the Bishop of the Roman Church would haue himselfe heard if he shall thinke it in â—â—t the iudgment be reuerst or do vouchsafe to write the examination of the cause to those Bishops that be of the next Prouince that they make diligent inquirie and determine it according to the credit of the truth And if any man will haue his businesse againe to be heard and shall moue the Bishop of Rome with his petition to send his Legate let it be in his power to do what he will in the businesse and what he shall thinke best The Popes deuise to cosen the African Fathers Here marke the notable tricke wherewith the Bishop of Rome went about to cosen the African Fathers First he pretends a Canon of the Nicene Councell for the right
Iohn 7 Now those ten hornes saith the Angell are tenne Kings vers 12. which as yet haue not receiued the Kingdome They be not then those tenne hornes whereof Daniel did prophecie whose kingdomes are at an end But they shall haue kingly power together with the beast that is with Antichrist which cannot be vnderstood but of the Proconsuls or Propraetors who were vicegerents to the Emperours in the Prouinces who together after the dissolution of the Easterne Empire had at that time absolute kingly authoritie with the Pope For while the Empire stood and flourished neither the Pope at Rome nor the Kings in the Prouinces did rule absolutely after it decaied both hee enioyed Rome and a great part of Italie and they enioyed the Prouinces And these tenne hornes together with the beast as Bellarmine confesseth it euent proues it Lib. 3. de Rom. Pont. cap. 13. diuided the Romane Empire betweene them Hence I inferre this At that time whenas Rome was accounted the Whore of Babilon by the Angell then the tenne hornes tooke absolute power with Antichrist But before Rome was Christian and Popish the ten hornes had not absolute power with Antichrist It followeth therefore that Rome not before it was Christian and Popish was accounted the Whore of Babylon by the Angell CAHP. XX. Wherein the qualities of the Whore of Babylon are described WHose glorious profession is fitly resembled to the golden cuppe of fornication It is said that Edward the 4. King of England had three Concubines the first very deuout the second very subtill the third very plesant The whore of Babylon alone doth expresse these three dispositions For what is more deuout what is more ioconde what is more wily shee hath a face none of her owne as her Husband Antichrist hath not For he doth alwaies weare a visard and therefore is a counterfeit Antichrist A whore not only for her carnall filthinesse but for her spirituall Idolatrie whereto she hath entised the nations with her allurements such as had to do with her She is therefore a blasphemous and filthy Whore more then that a proud couetous cruell whore And therefore she is said to bee decked with purple and golden attire inriched with the spoiles of all sorts and drunke with the innocent bloud of the Saints Note For what extremities soeuer impietie could effect by blasphemie or lust by laciuiousnesse or couetousnesse by rapine or pride by delicacie or crueltie by torture the same the Angell so long before foretould that the Church should endure by that whore of Babylon Neither if we grant that Ethnicke Rome from her cradell was Babylon because the beast is said to haue 7. heades any inconuenience will follow thereby Neither if wee shall say that the purple whore began then The Pope compared to Romulus when Romulus first founded Rome will it ouerthrowe the exposition of the Angell For it remained to bee that which she was in the beginning Yea a great deale worse when it was falsly Christian vnder Antichrist then heathenish vnder Romulus It is reported that Romulus was a notable theife a Deflowrer of Virgins a truce breaker a brother-killer and that hee founded Rome at the first by these sinnes But he was not so notorious for his theifts as this for his sacriledge Nor he so filthy for the forcing of Virgins as this for the worshipping of Images Nor he for his breaking his league with men as this with God Nor he such a spiller of his brothers blood as this of Christian blood What an one thinke we him to be who doth surpasse a theefe in robberie a deflowrer of Virgins in lechery a truce breaker in treacherie and a brother-killer in crueltie Therefore the Angell called the Bishop of Rome Babylon and the purple whore by a super excellencie The descripti of the Whore of Babylon For she was proude by the spoiles of Prouinces this by the spoiles of all Churches She was composed or carnall this of spirituall adulteries and whoredomes She brak her faith with men this with God Shee was enraged against the bodies of the Saints this against the soules of the Saints She dealt with the lambes of Christ by open force as a Lyons Whelpe this as a Foxe with her cunning did sauagely teare them in peeces and deuour them Wherefore let Rome if you will bee that whore of Babylon from the beginning certainely she could not make drunke 10. kings with the golden cuppe of her fornication before there were tenne Kings For while Ethnicke Rome did stand they were the Emperours subiects they were no kings They were kings vnder the Pope of Rome therefore by popish Rome made drunke to whom by an excellencie the name of that whore is giuen by the Angell Neither yet will I euer accuse that Bishoply Rome which suffred for Christ vnder the ethnicke Emperours For not Rome regenerated and suffering but degenerating and persecuting can properly be called that whore of Babylon Neither doe I wholy excuse the imperiall Rome Imperiall Rome not to be excused which vnder Constantine Theodosius and other holy Emperours professed Christ because Rome which was Babylon from the beginning did retaine in her bosome diuers reliques of the former paganisme and diuers seedes of the future Antichristianisme Because it is not necessarie that all that were of the same succession should be of the same affection No I would not exclude Paul the 5. himselfe from the hope of saluation if the wretched sinner would repent and returne vnto his God Hence certaine dispute against vs. Antichrist cannot be saued for he is the sonne of perdition as the Apostle teacheth The Pope may be saued by your owne confession The Pope therefore is not Antichrist Or thus It is not lawfull to pray for Antichrist It is for the Pope The Pope therefore is not Antichrist This obiection is a fallacie called the begging of the question For it doth presuppose Antichrist to be one singular man We contrary as by many reasons wee haue proued it If therefore they keepe them to the point and take the Pope collectiuely the assumption is false if they take him for this or that single man the assumption is true if the Pope repent But then there be foure tearms in the syllogisme For the Pope is otherwise taken in the assumption then in the conclusion For there it is taken for singular Popes heere for a succession of Pope But of this sophisme I haue spoken enough before CHAP. XXI How the Church of Rome may be said to be the Church of GOD. BVt heere is another doubt to bee resolued how the seate of Antichrist can be called that purple whore as Saint Iohn saith and temple and Church of God as Saint Paul saith For if Antichrist sit in the Church of God as I taught before and popish Rome be the seat of Antichrist as in many wordes I haue declared it seemeth that popish Rome is the Church of God I answere and