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of_o baptism_n chap._n 18._o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n and_o iâ—_n he_o do_v allow_v it_o as_o mr_n t._n add_v it_o be_v only_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n as_o may_v appear_v by_o his_o word_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr animâ_fw-la chap._n 39_o we_o reply_v to_o this_o 1._o that_o both_o these_o place_n of_o tertullian_n be_v before_o allege_v translate_v and_o discuss_v animadver_n animadver_n to_o be_v for_o infant-baptisme_n chap._n 13._o of_o our_o animadvers_fw-la at_o the_o word_n tertul_n in_o the_o margin_n which_o we_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o peruse_v over_o again_o where_o you_o may_v see_v that_o tertullian_n have_v nothing_o of_o allowance_n of_o infant-baptisme_n only_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n but_o if_o the_o place_n be_v well_o weigh_v he_o say_v that_o which_o he_o say_v for_o infant-baptisme_n without_o any_o such_o limitation_n which_o infant-baptisme_n among_o other_o passage_n be_v assert_v by_o tertullian_n in_o those_o word_n that_o the_o child_n of_o either_o parent-sex_n sanctify_v be_v holy_a partly_o by_o the_o prerogative_n of_o the_o seed_n partly_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o discipline_n which_o what_o can_v it_o be_v but_o baptism_n and_o in_o those_o word_n those_o child_n be_v designati_fw-la sanctitatis_fw-la the_o designedone_n of_o holiness_n or_o the_o mark_v once_o of_o holiness_n it_o be_v more_o like_a that_o mr_n t._n mean_v that_o tertullian_n restrain_v infant-baptisme_n to_o necessity_n lib._n de_fw-fr bapt._n cap._n 18._o but_o we_o have_v abundant_o clear_v this_o also_o afore_o in_o the_o 13._o chap._n of_o our_o animadvers_fw-la at_o the_o word_n tertul_n in_o the_o margin_n and_o that_o not_o out_o of_o our_o own_o thought_n only_o but_o out_o of_o learned_a juâ—ius_n and_o vossius_fw-la let_v the_o reader_n have_v patience_n to_o peruse_v that_o we_o have_v there_o say_v we_o add_v now_o that_o the_o most_o of_o tertullia_n dispute_n against_o hasten_a baptism_n chap._n 18._o of_o his_o book_n concern_v baptism_n be_v against_o sudden_a baptise_v man_n of_o ripe_a year_n for_o his_o word_n be_v give_v not_o baptism_n rash_o give_v not_o holy_a thing_n to_o dog_n he_o count_v not_o infant_n of_o believer_n such_o as_o you_o hear_v out_o of_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la and_o here_o by_o and_o by_o call_v they_o the_o innocent_a age_n if_o the_o eunuch_n be_v sudden_o baptize_v yet_o the_o spirit_n command_v philip_n to_o go_v to_o his_o chariot_n if_o paul_n be_v sudden_o baptize_v yes_o he_o be_v soon_o know_v to_o judas_n his_o host_n that_o he_o be_v a_o choose_a â—essell_n so_o tertul_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v true_a that_o after_o tertullian_n speak_v of_o infant_n but_o what_o say_v he_o quid_fw-la festinaâ—_n innocenâ—aâ—_n aâ—_n ad_fw-la remissionem_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la why_o do_v innocent_a age_n hasten_v to_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n mean_v baptism_n be_v this_o a_o good_a reason_n a_o scripture_n ground_n to_o defer_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n he_o say_v himself_o in_o his_o say_a book_n and_o 8_o chap._n de_fw-fr animâ_fw-la that_o child_n be_v not_o holy_a till_o they_o be_v count_v so_o in_o christ_n and_o how_o in_o christ_n when_o they_o be_v by_o mean_n of_o one_o of_o the_o holy_a parent_n under_o the_o promise_n of_o be_v a_o holy_a seed_n and_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o discipline_n which_o for_o child_n while_o such_o be_v only_a baptism_n and_o whereas_o mr_n t._n bring_v in_o learned_a grotius_n as_o countenance_v he_o in_o rely_v upon_o tertullian_n against_o infant-baptisme_n we_o have_v large_o and_o plain_o lay_v open_a after_z in_o our_o animadversion_n in_o this_o chap._n upon_o the_o six_o section_n of_o mr_n t._n his_o examen_fw-la see_v the_o margin_n there_o 1._o that_o grotius_n reject_v tertullia_n opinion_n as_o nothing_o sway_v he_o against_o infant-baptisme_n 2._o that_o grotius_n by_o many_o argument_n be_v for_o infant-baptism_n 3._o we_o now_o add_v that_o it_o be_v true_a grotius_n do_v say_v tertullianus_n de_fw-fr aetate_fw-la quâ_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la essent_fw-la qui_fw-la christianae_n disciplinae_fw-la a_o parentibus_fw-la consâ—crabantur_fw-la nihil_fw-la definitum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la suis_fw-la temporibus_fw-la hoc_fw-la ipso_fw-la docet_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o tertullian_n show_v that_o in_o his_o time_n the_o set_a time_n of_o baptise_v they_o that_o be_v consecrate_a by_o their_o parent_n to_o christian_a discipline_n be_v not_o determine_v but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o prove_v that_o in_o those_o time_n believer_n child_n must_v not_o be_v baptize_v till_o they_o be_v out_o of_o their_o parent_n guardianship_n and_o of_o ripe_a year_n 2._o mr_n t._n object_n against_o cyprian_a 7._o examen_fw-la sect._n 7._o that_o indeed_o he_o handle_v infant-baptisme_n at_o large_a in_o his_o 59_o epistle_n ad_fw-la fidum_fw-la and_o say_v in_o that_o epistle_n enough_o for_o it_o and_o more_o then_o enough_o unless_o he_o have_v speak_v to_o better_a purpose_n the_o truth_n be_v the_o very_a read_n of_o the_o epistle_n upon_o which_o hierom_n and_o especial_o augustine_n rely_v for_o the_o prove_v of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v sufficient_a to_o discover_v how_o great_a darkness_n there_o be_v then_o upon_o the_o spirit_n of_o those_o that_o be_v count_v the_o great_a light_n in_o the_o church_n you_o say_v *_o upon_o this_o occasion_n fidus_n deny_v not_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n m._n mr_n t._n speak_v to_o mr_n m._n but_o deny_v that_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v baptise_a before_o the_o eight_o day_n but_o you_o may_v have_v observe_v that_o fidus_n allege_v that_o the_o law_n of_o ancient_a circumcision_n be_v to_o be_v consider_v and_o that_o the_o footstep_n of_o a_o infant_n be_v in_o the_o first_o day_n of_o birth_n be_v not_o clean_a whence_o it_o plain_o appear_v that_o there_o be_v a_o relic_n of_o judaisme_n in_o he_o and_o that_o he_o do_v not_o well_o understand_v the_o abrogation_n of_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v the_o contention_n about_o easter_n near_o that_o age_n do_v plain_o show_v that_o judaisme_n be_v not_o quite_o weed_v out_o of_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o chief_a teacher_n among_o christian_n thus_o mr_n t._n we_o answer_v 1_o that_o however_o mr_n t._n despise_v here_o cyprian_n testimony_n animadver_n animadver_n yet_o the_o renow_v pious_a learned_a esteem_v it_o as_o cyrill_n or_o john_n of_o jerusalem_n gregory_n nazianzen_n chrysostome_n ambrose_n hierom_n augustine_n the_o place_n where_o in_o their_o work_n we_o quote_v a_o little_a afore_o in_o the_o margin_n over_o against_o the_o end_n of_o the_o testimony_n of_o cyprian_a nor_o do_v ancient_a writer_n only_o esteem_v it_o on_o who_o spirit_n mr_n t._n say_v there_o be_v such_o darkness_n and_o on_o who_o spirit_n be_v there_o not_o some_o at_o this_o time_n of_o great_a light_n but_o also_o late_a learn_v pious_a writer_n even_o mr_n t._n his_o beloved_a vossius_fw-la &_o grotius_n so_o oft_o quote_v by_o he_o vossius_fw-la say_v 19.14_o vossius_fw-la thes_n theolog._n &_o hist_n de_fw-fr paedo_fw-la bapt_v thes_n 9_o grotius_n in_o mat._n 19.14_o that_o this_o testimony_n of_o cyprian_a be_v above_o or_o beyond_o all_o exception_n grotius_n say_v that_o the_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_a to_o fidus_n make_v the_o matter_n plain_a that_o there_o be_v then_o no_o doubt_n of_o baptise_v infant_n etc._n etc._n 2_o when_o mr_n t._n urge_v the_o father_n in_o the_o least_o as_o one_o place_n out_o of_o one_o origen_n or_o etc._n etc._n in_o a_o point_n of_o great_a doubt_n we_o must_v entertain_v it_o by_o mr_n t._n his_o intendment_n but_o when_o we_o urge_v many_o place_n out_o of_o many_o then_o say_v he_o they_o be_v this_o and_o that_o 3_o better_a man_n than_o these_o father_n may_v have_v some_o darkness_n john_n baptist_n be_v great_a than_o the_o prophet_n and_o he_o that_o be_v least_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o church_n now_o be_v great_a than_o he_o 4_o many_o man_n may_v in_o these_o day_n hold_v a_o solid_a truth_n yet_o not_o upon_o the_o best_a ground_n of_o it_o for_o want_v of_o knowledge_n of_o they_o 5_o that_o fidus_n thus_o far_o express_o hold_v the_o ceremonial_a law_n to_o be_v abrogate_a that_o baptism_n be_v come_v in_o the_o room_n of_o circumcision_n and_o may_v be_v administer_v at_o least_o as_o soon_o as_o circumcision_n be_v to_o child_n 2._o act._n 21.20_o gal._n 2._o 6_o we_o know_v that_o many_o christian_a jew_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o peter_n himself_o do_v too_o much_o judaize_v shall_v not_o we_o therefore_o receive_v that_o true_a light_n that_o be_v in_o they_o 7_o for_o that_o of_o ester_n we_o know_v the_o controversy_n too_o far_o and_o too_o long_o about_o that_o time_n invade_v christian_a england_n shall_v not_o we_o therefore_o be_v regard_v in_o any_o truth_n martyr_n mr_n fox_n book_n of_o martyr_n yea_o do_v not_o the_o observation_n of_o ester_n reach_v down_o to_o mr_n
the_o scripture_n as_o we_o have_v often_o quote_v and_o then_o the_o result_n of_o mr_n t._n his_o argument_n will_v be_v only_o this_o augustine_n read_v the_o scripture_n for_o original_a sin_n in_o infant_n and_o infant-baptisme_n and_o so_o do_v the_o council_n of_o milevis_n ergo_fw-la the_o council_n â—f_fw-fr milevis_n depend_v on_o the_o authority_n of_o augustine_n a_o nonsequitur_a that_o every_o man_n will_v perceive_v two_o counsellor_n urge_v the_o same_o clause_n of_o a_o statute_n or_o the_o same_o deduction_n thence_o clear_a to_o both_o their_o reason_n will_v it_o follow_v therefore_o that_o the_o one_o judgement_n depend_v on_o the_o other_o but_o say_v mr_n t._n i_o value_v augustine_n judgement_n examen_fw-la examen_fw-la just_o so_o much_o as_o his_o proof_n and_o reason_n weigh_v we_o answer_v animadver_n animadver_n that_o be_v well_o but_o as_o we_o may_v not_o extol_v good_a man_n too_o much_o so_o nor_o depress_v a_o augustine_n a_o luther_n as_o if_o we_o will_v by_o a_o back_n blow_n strike_v out_o their_o eye_n and_o then_o say_v they_o see_v nothing_o augustine_n retractation_n and_o luther_n voluntary_a suffering_n of_o so_o many_o loss_n and_o cross_n for_o the_o truth_n be_v incomparable_a sign_n they_o aspire_v not_o to_o be_v high_a in_o authority_n over_o man_n conscience_n augustine_n argue_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n plentiful_o according_a to_o his_o light_n for_o that_o he_o hold_v so_o do_v mr_n t._n so_o do_v other_o therefore_o let_v we_o not_o too_o rash_o despise_v one_o another_o argument_n the_o council_n of_o milevis_n do_v anathematise_v they_o that_o do_v deny_v original_a sin_n and_o perhaps_o they_o that_o say_v infant_n be_v not_o baptize_v into_o remission_n of_o sin_n but_o they_o do_v not_o curse_v they_o that_o will_v not_o make_v infant_n original_a sin_n a_o argument_n for_o infant-baptisme_n sure_a augustine_n do_v not_o so_o anathema_n and_o therefore_o the_o c._n of_o milevis_n take_v no_o such_o thing_n from_o he_o and_o therefore_o no_o wonder_n they_o do_v not_o practice_v it_o but_o mr_n t._n again_o urge_v the_o baptism_n of_o augustine_n at_o above_o 30_o year_n old_a 8._o examen_fw-la §._o 8._o of_o alipius_n his_o friend_n at_o ripe_a year_n of_o adâ—odatus_n his_o son_n at_o 15_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o custom_n of_o baptise_v infant_n be_v not_o so_o receive_v as_o that_o the_o church_n think_v it_o necessary_a that_o all_o child_n of_o christian_n by_o profession_n shall_v be_v baptize_v in_o their_o infancy_n we_o answer_v first_o in_o general_a animadver_n animadver_n that_o they_o be_v persuade_v that_o of_o equity_n they_o ought_v to_o baptize_v all_o christian_n child_n as_o the_o stream_n of_o antiquity_n have_v carry_v it_o of_o which_o afore_o abundant_o and_o mr_n t._n himself_o charge_v augustine_n and_o cyprian_n that_o they_o think_v too_o many_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v namely_o all_o that_o have_v christian_a parent_n or_o undertaker_n if_o therefore_o in_o fact_n some_o few_o be_v not_o baptize_v in_o infancy_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o there_o be_v some_o outward_a forcible_a stop_n no_o inward_a let_v in_o the_o judgement_n as_o the_o israelite_n in_o fact_n give_v not_o their_o child_n the_o first_o seal_n or_o sign_n of_o circumcision_n for_o 40_o year_n in_o the_o wilderness_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o pilgrimage_n there_o so_o long_o and_o god_n bear_v with_o it_o though_o by_o equity_n they_o shall_v have_v do_v it_o upon_o the_o eight_o day_n after_o birth_n upon_o pain_n of_o cut_v off_o gen._n 17._o 2_o in_o particular_a touch_v augustine_n baptism_n that_o it_o be_v not_o do_v till_o he_o be_v about_o 34_o or_o 35_o year_n of_o age_n we_o have_v before_o acknowledge_v and_o we_o shall_v give_v a_o full_a account_n why_o anon_o after_o when_o we_o have_v do_v with_o this_o 8._o sect._n of_o mr_n t._n his_o examen_fw-la and_o return_v to_o his_o exercitation_n section_n 17._o where_o mr_n t._n urge_v the_o same_o thing_n touch_v augustine_n but_o mean_a while_n for_o adeodatus_n augustine_n son_n if_o mr_n t._n be_v sure_a he_o be_v baptize_v at_o 15_o the_o cause_n may_v be_v this_o see_v augustine_n when_o he_o be_v at_o man_n estate_n about_o 32_o year_n old_a run_v into_o most_o blasphemous_a error_n and_o after_o that_o become_v catechumenus_fw-la a_o catechise_v about_o two_o year_n and_o so_o not_o baptize_v till_o about_o 34_o or_o 35_o he_o may_v possible_o have_v a_o son_n of_o about_o 15_o year_n old_a unbaptise_v till_o the_o father_n be_v own_v in_o the_o church_n for_o a_o christian_a and_o then_o he_o and_o his_o son_n adeodatus_n and_o his_o friend_n alipius_n may_v be_v baptize_v the_o same_o day_n augustine_n and_o his_o friend_n be_v man_n adeodatus_n his_o son_n be_v a_o youth_n of_o 15_o year_n of_o age_n but_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n or_o probality_n that_o either_o alipius_n have_v believe_v parent_n or_o that_o alipius_n have_v be_v long_o a_o christian_n but_o rather_o the_o contrary_n 7._o contrary_n see_v august_n confess_v lib._n 6._o c._n 7._o and_o it_o be_v uncertain_a to_o i_o and_o not_o to_o i_o only_o look_v more_o wishly_o on_o the_o word_n of_o augustine_n whether_o adeodatus_n be_v baptize_v the_o same_o time_n his_o father_n be_v or_o no_o 6._o no_o ind_n ubi_fw-la tempus_fw-la advenit_fw-la quo_fw-la i_o nomen_fw-la dare_v oporteret_fw-la relicto_fw-la rure_n mediolanum_n remeavimus_fw-la placuit_fw-la &_o alipio_n renasci_fw-la in_o te_fw-la mecum_fw-la jam_fw-la indato_fw-la humilita_fw-la esacramentis_fw-la tuis_fw-la congrua_fw-la &_o fortisumo_fw-la domitore_fw-la corporis_fw-la ulque_fw-fr ad_fw-la italicum_fw-la solum_fw-la glaciâ—â—e_fw-la â—udo_fw-la pede_fw-la obterendum_fw-la insolito_fw-la â—â—su_fw-la adjunximus_fw-la etiam_fw-la nobis_fw-la pverum_fw-la adeodatum_fw-la exâ—â—e_fw-la â—â—tum_fw-la carnaliter_fw-la de_fw-la peccato_fw-la meo_fw-la tu_fw-la bene_fw-la feceras_fw-la eum_fw-la annorum_fw-la erat_fw-la feâ—me_fw-la qui_fw-la decim_fw-la &_o ingeniâ—_n praeveniebat_fw-la multos_fw-la grave_n &_o doctos_fw-la viros_fw-la munera_fw-la tua_fw-la tibi_fw-la coâ—fâ—eor_fw-la do_v nine_o deus_fw-la meus_fw-la creator_n omnâ—um_fw-la &_o mulâ—um_fw-la potens_fw-la reformare_fw-la nostra_fw-la deformia_fw-la nam_fw-la ego_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la pvero_fw-la praeter_fw-la delictum_fw-la nihil_fw-la habebam_fw-la quod_fw-la enim_fw-la enutriabatur_fw-la a_o nobis_fw-la in_o disciplina_fw-la tua_fw-la tu_fw-la inspiraveras_fw-la nobis_fw-la nullus_fw-la alius_fw-la aug._n confess_v lib._n 9_o cap._n 6._o nor_o be_v it_o of_o moment_n whether_o he_o be_v or_o be_v not_o for_o mr_n t._n his_o conclusion_n from_o these_o premise_n of_o augustine_n adeodatus_n and_o alipius_n i_o say_v his_o conclusion_n that_o the_o church_n think_v it_o not_o necessary_a that_o all_o child_n of_o christian_n by_o profession_n shall_v be_v baptize_v in_o their_o infancy_n do_v not_o necessary_o follow_v but_o mr_n t._n in_o his_o examen_fw-la sect._n 8._o assert_n further_o that_o though_o he_o conceive_v with_o grotius_n on_o mat._n 19.14_o that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v much_o more_o frequent_v and_o with_o great_a opinion_n of_o necessity_n in_o africa_n then_o in_o asia_n or_o other_o part_n of_o the_o world_n for_o say_v he_o in_o the_o councilis_fw-la you_o can_v find_v ancient_a mention_n of_o that_o custom_n than_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n yet_o mr_n t._n do_v very_o much_o question_n whether_o they_o do_v in_o africa_n even_o in_o augustine_n time_n baptize_v child_n except_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n or_o for_o the_o health_n of_o body_n or_o for_o such_o like_a reason_n i_o do_v not_o find_v say_v mr_n t._n that_o they_o hold_v that_o infant_n must_v be_v baptize_v out_o of_o such_o case_n for_o it_o be_v clear_a out_o of_o sundry_a of_o augustine_n tract_n as_o particular_o tract_n 11._o in_o johan_n that_o the_o order_n hold_v of_o 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assert_v man_n in_o divers_a country_n may_v more_o frequent_o and_o with_o more_o â—â—al_a practice_n a_o truth_n and_o yet_o the_o
in_o baptise_v people_n of_o ripe_a year_n de_fw-la facto_fw-la in_o fact_n confession_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n do_v precede_v and_o forego_v but_o neither_o john_n baptist_n nor_o the_o apostle_n make_v any_o such_o express_a rule_n that_o the_o jure_v of_o equity_n none_o shall_v be_v baptize_v by_o they_o but_o those_o that_o can_v make_v confession_n of_o sin_n or_o profession_n of_o faith_n nor_o do_v all_o the_o scripture_n bring_v by_o mr._n t._n prove_v any_o such_o rule_n mr._n t._n himself_o intimated_o confess_v that_o john_n the_o baptist_n do_v not_o make_v a_o rule_n for_o confession_n but_o only_o in_o practice_v those_o jew_n of_o ripe_a year_n that_o john_n baptist_n do_v baptize_v do_v first_o confess_v their_o sin_n and_o that_o act._n 2.39_o act._n 16._o etc._n etc._n have_v be_v already_o discuss_v that_o they_o show_v child_n be_v baptize_v who_o can_v not_o make_v confession_n or_o profession_n but_o mr._n t._n object_n act._n 8.37_o if_o thou_o believe_v with_o thy_o whole_a heart_n thou_o may_v be_v baptize_v where_o the_o apostle_n imply_v in_o his_o speech_n to_o the_o eunuch_n that_o defect_n of_o faith_n be_v a_o impediment_n of_o baptism_n we_o answer_v mr._n t._n afore_o confess_v p._n 24._o infant_n may_v be_v sanctify_v if_o therefore_o he_o mean_v the_o defect_n of_o manifestation_n of_o faith_n we_o answer_v it_o be_v true_a in_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n for_o there_o it_o be_v know_v that_o they_o be_v worse_o than_o infant_n so_o be_v it_o in_o circumcision_n if_o ishmael_n be_v a_o know_a scoffer_n he_o be_v cast_v out_o and_o so_o his_o child_n be_v not_o circumcise_v unless_o perhaps_o after_o at_o year_n they_o give_v good_a testimony_n of_o their_o due_a subjection_n to_o the_o law_n so_o that_o to_o the_o whole_a argumentation_n we_o say_v that_o here_o be_v mention_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o that_o first_o administration_n of_o baptism_n to_o the_o parent_n with_o confession_n and_o profession_n by_o many_o example_n and_o intimation_n but_o not_o a_o rule_n set_v down_o that_o thus_o it_o must_v be_v in_o the_o succession_n of_o believer_n child_n we_o listen_v not_o to_o speak_v any_o thing_n more_o of_o this_o major_a proposition_n and_o the_o proof_n only_o wonder_v that_o among_o the_o crowd_n of_o scripture_n mr._n t._n quote_v he_o will_v thrust_v in_o that_o of_o act._n 19.5_o for_o baptism_n of_o water_n which_o be_v only_o a_o confer_v of_o the_o miraculary_a gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n as_o many_o argument_n from_o the_o place_n can_v evince_v but_o mr._n t._n object_n this_o for_o a_o confirmation_n of_o his_o argument_n that_o if_o it_o be_v right_o argue_v from_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o that_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v not_o to_o be_v grant_v to_o infant_n because_o self-examination_n be_v pre-required_n by_o like_a reason_n we_o may_v say_v baptism_n be_v not_o yield_v to_o infant_n because_o repentance_n and_o faith_n be_v pre-required_n act._n 2.38_o act._n 8.37_o and_o that_o of_o those_o that_o descend_v from_o abraham_n and_o to_o who_o the_o promise_n be_v beside_o what_o we_o say_v afore_o we_o answer_v to_o this_o argument_n great_a in_o show_n that_o there_o be_v not_o the_o like_a reason_n between_o those_o place_n for_o baptism_n and_o that_o for_o the_o lord_n supper_n for_o 1._o that_o of_o the_o lord_n supper_n speak_v of_o every_o communicant_a viritim_fw-la as_o count_v one_o after_o another_o let_v the_o party_n whosoever_o it_o be_v enter_v into_o self-examination_n before_o eat_v but_o that_o act._n 2.38_o speak_v in_o the_o gub_n or_o general_a to_o the_o parent_n and_o that_o act._n 8.37_o be_v speak_v to_o one_o only_a man_n and_o in_o that_o phrase_n that_o can_v be_v find_v elsewhere_o on_o that_o occasion_n 2._o there_o be_v no_o intimation_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n of_o child_n admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o in_o that_o act._n 2._o present_o in_o the_o next_o verse_n v._o 39_o there_o be_v a_o intimation_n of_o their_o infant_n admit_v to_o baptism_n as_o before_o we_o have_v evince_v that_o clause_n of_o descend_v from_o abraham_n and_o the_o belong_v of_o the_o promise_n be_v of_o no_o weight_n in_o this_o argument_n for_o 1_o the_o parent_n by_o put_v to_o death_n christ_n have_v make_v themselves_o in_o wickedness_n worse_o than_o gentile_n 2_o that_o confession_n and_o profession_n be_v express_o call_v for_o only_o from_o they_o that_o be_v so_o apparent_o wicked_a 3_o that_o if_o they_o do_v come_v in_o by_o repentance_n the_o promise_n say_v the_o apostle_n present_o run_v to_o their_o child_n chap._n xiii_o the_o four_o argument_n say_v mr._n t._n be_v take_v from_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n apostle_n exercit._fw-la sect._n 17._o the_o 4._o argument_n against_o infant_n baptism_n from_o the_o practice_n in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n that_o tenet_n and_o practice_n be_v doubtful_a of_o which_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v in_o force_n or_o use_v in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n but_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o the_o tenet_n or_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v in_o force_n or_o use_v in_o the_o age_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n ergo._n the_o major_n be_v of_o itself_o manifest_a the_o minor_a be_v prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o lodovicus_n vives_z above-recited_n to_o which_o vossius_fw-la in_o the_o sibus_fw-la historico-theologicis_a of_o infant-baptisme_n join_v the_o testimony_n of_o walafridus_n strabo_n and_o by_o the_o examine_n of_o place_n bring_v to_o that_o purpose_n and_o by_o the_o continuation_n of_o question_n propound_v to_o the_o baptize_v in_o age_n follow_v and_o other_o token_n from_o council_n and_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n which_o in_o historical_a business_n be_v wont_a to_o beget_v credit_n the_o word_n of_o walafridus_n strabo_n who_o live_v about_o the_o year_n 840._o in_o his_o book_n derebus_n ecclesiasticis_fw-la chap._n 26._o be_v these_o we_o be_v also_o to_o note_n that_o in_o the_o first_o time_n the_o grace_n of_o baptism_n be_v wont_v only_o to_o be_v give_v to_o they_o who_o by_o integrity_n both_o of_o body_n and_o mind_n be_v already_o come_v to_o this_o that_o they_o can_v know_v and_o understand_v what_o profit_n be_v to_o be_v obtain_v in_o baptism_n what_o be_v to_o be_v confess_v and_o believe_v what_o last_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v of_o they_o that_o be_v bear_v again_o in_o christ_n thus_o far_o mr._n t._n and_o his_o quotation_n of_o walafridus_n 1._o to_o mr._n t._n his_o major_n we_o say_v animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la that_o it_o be_v not_o of_o itself_o manifest_a for_o what_o if_o we_o can_v produce_v any_o record_n of_o antiquity_n for_o the_o use_n and_o practice_v of_o many_o thing_n in_o the_o age_n next_o to_o the_o apostle_n be_v they_o therefore_o doubtful_a when_o as_o we_o have_v the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o they_o therefore_o the_o 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be_v not_o the_o way_n to_o beget_v credit_n in_o the_o judicious_a reader_n it_o be_v too_o much_o to_o believe_v every_o author_n upon_o his_o bare_a word_n without_o other_o circumstance_n and_o therefore_o by_o much_o more_o too_o much_o to_o believe_v author_n not_o produce_v but_o only_o intimate_v by_o mr._n t._n 2._o mr._n tomb_n give_v we_o in_o two_o late-man_n in_o comparison_n of_o the_o stream_n of_o ancient_a antiquity_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o those_o two_o 3._o if_o those_o two_o have_v be_v a_o considerable_a number_n or_o have_v produce_v to_o we_o any_o considerable_a reason_n or_o quotation_n of_o antiquity_n high_o than_o themselves_o or_o any_o fair_a probability_n or_o circumstance_n how_o they_o gather_v it_o they_o will_v soon_o have_v beget_v credit_n then_o as_o they_o be_v now_o propose_v in_o particular_a first_o to_o ludovicus_n vives_z we_o answer_v
episcopos_fw-la papale_n coetum_fw-la sceleratorum_fw-la &_o ecclesiam_fw-la pontificiam_fw-la coetum_fw-la infernorum_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la propositione_n non_fw-la multum_fw-la à _fw-la vero_fw-la aberraverunt_fw-la matrimonia_fw-la damnabant_fw-la promiscuos_fw-la concubitus_fw-la cosquenefarios_fw-la sanctos_fw-la ducebant_fw-la hic_fw-la est_fw-la furor_fw-la satanicus_n corporum_fw-la resurrectionem_fw-la negant_fw-la mortuos_fw-la vivorum_fw-la beneficiis_fw-la nonâ—_n juvari_fw-la haec_fw-la propositio_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la haeretica_fw-la animas_fw-la defunctorum_fw-la hominum_fw-la transire_fw-la per_fw-la diversa_fw-la corpora_fw-la etiam_fw-la animalium_fw-la &_o serpentum_fw-la si_fw-la malè_fw-la vixerint_fw-la sin_n benè_fw-la in_fw-la principis_fw-la aut_fw-la alterìus_fw-la illustris_fw-la personae_fw-la corpus_fw-la carnem_fw-la comedi_fw-la prohibent_fw-la tribuitur_fw-la illis_fw-la à _fw-la quibusdam_fw-la quòd_fw-la evangelion_n urina_fw-la 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absurdae_fw-la impiae_fw-la &_o haereticae_fw-la partim_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o politia_fw-la tolerari_fw-la non_fw-la possent_fw-la praesertim_fw-la promiscuae_fw-la libidines_fw-la &_o abolitio_fw-la matrimonii_fw-la cùm_fw-la albingenses_n admonitiones_fw-la non_fw-la admitterent_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o erroribus_fw-la &_o sceleribus_fw-la persisterent_fw-la adhortante_fw-la pontifice_fw-la romano_n magistratus_fw-la politicus_fw-la collecto_fw-la exercitu_fw-la duabus_fw-la vicibus_fw-la aliquot_fw-la millia_fw-la albin_n gensium_fw-la trucidarunt_fw-la multi_fw-la etiam_fw-la capitibus_fw-la truncati_fw-la &_o cremati_fw-la leguntur_fw-la qui_fw-la hinc_fw-la inde_fw-la sunt_fw-la deprehensi_fw-la fuit_fw-la enim_fw-la albingensis_fw-la furor_fw-la anabaptisticus_fw-la qualis_fw-la anno_fw-la 1534._o nostro_fw-la seculo_fw-la anabaptistarum_fw-la monasteriensium_fw-la crat_fw-mi there_o arise_v and_o in_o progress_n of_o time_n get_v strength_n the_o heresy_n of_o the_o albingenses_n 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the_o assertor_n of_o infant_n baptism_n little_o agree_v among_o themselves_o upon_o what_o foundation_n they_o may_v build_v infant-baptisme_n cyprian_a and_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_n draw_v it_o from_o the_o universality_n of_o grace_n and_o the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n to_o salvation_n augustine_n bernard_n etc._n etc._n bring_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o reason_n of_o baptise_v infant_n the_o catechism_n in_o the_o english_a liturgy_n put_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o surety_n the_o lutheran_n the_o faith_n of_o infant_n other_o the_o holiness_n of_o a_o believe_a nation_n other_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o next_o parent_n and_o other_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o next_o parent_n in_o covenant_n in_o a_o gather_a church_n we_o answer_v 1_o in_o general_n multaloqueris_fw-la pauc_v a_o dicis_fw-la animad_fw-la animad_fw-la here_o be_v much_o speak_v little_o prove_v we_o have_v but_o one_o quotation_n and_o that_o be_v out_o of_o the_o english_a masse-book_n 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right_a but_o the_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n have_v occasion_v either_o the_o birth_n or_o foster_a of_o many_o error_n ergo._n it_o be_v prove_v by_o instance_n 1._o that_o baptism_n confer_v grace_n by_o the_o work_n do_v 2._o that_o baptism_n be_v regeneration_n 3._o that_o infant_n die_v be_v save_v by_o the_o faith_n of_o their_o parent_n faith_n of_o surety_n of_o the_o church_n receive_v into_o her_o lap_n which_o be_v to_o be_v ascribe_v alone_o to_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n by_o christ_n 4._o that_o some_o regenerate_a person_n may_v utter_o fall_v from_o grace_n the_o eight_o argument_n that_o which_o have_v cause_v many_o abuse_n and_o fault_n in_o discipline_n arg._n 8_o confirm_v §._o 22._o the_o argument_n against_o infant-baptisme_n from_o many_o abuse_v cause_v by_o it_o confirm_v and_o divine_a worship_n and_o conversation_n of_o man_n that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a but_o infant-baptisme_n be_v such_o ergo._n it_o be_v prove_v by_o enumeration_n 1._o private_a baptism_n 2._o baptism_n by_o woman_n 3._o baptism_n of_o infant_n not_o yet_o bring_v into_o light_n 4._o baptism_n of_o infant_n of_o uncertain_a progeny_n who_o we_o call_v child_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o world_n 5._o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n who_o know_v not_o the_o lord_n nor_o have_v ever_o consent_v or_o perhaps_o will_v consent_v to_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o name_n of_o our_o lord_n 6._o it_o have_v bring_v in_o the_o admission_n of_o ignorance_n and_o profane_a man_n into_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o the_o lord_n supper_n for_o who_o can_v deny_v right_o the_o right_a of_o the_o church_n to_o the_o baptize_v 7_o it_o pervert_v the_o order_n of_o discipline_n that_o first_o a_o man_n be_v baptize_v and_o after_o among_o the_o catechize_v 8_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n be_v turn_v into_o a_o mere_a ceremony_n yea_o into_o a_o profane_a meeting_n to_o feast_v together_o 9_o man_n forget_v baptism_n as_o 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