Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	church_n	hold_v	scripture_n	3,916	5	6.2597	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85422	VVater-dipping no firm footing for Church-communion: or Considerations proving it not simply lawful, but necessary also (in point of duty) for persons baptized after the new mode of dipping, to continue communion with those churches, or imbodied societies of saints, of which they were members before the said dipping; and that to betray their trust or faith given unto Jesus Christ to serve him in the relation and capacity, whether of officers, or other members, in these churches (respectively) by deserting these churches, is a sin highly provoking in the sight of God. Together with a post-script touching the pretended Answer to the Forty queries about Church-communion, infant and after baptism. By John Goodwin, a servant of God in the Gospel of his dear Son.	Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665.	1653 (1653)	Wing G1213; Thomason E723_15; ESTC R202234	72,402	91

more_o than_o the_o other_o but_o the_o grand_a untruth_n here_o be_v that_o i_o shall_v have_v disclaim_v communion_n with_o these_o church_n because_o there_o be_v no_o example_n in_o scripture_n of_o such_o church-constitution_n etc._n etc._n my_o anti-querist_n be_v very_o much_o mistake_v in_o this_o for_o i_o disclaim_v no_o action_n whatsoever_o upon_o this_o account_n because_o there_o be_v no_o example_n of_o this_o action_n in_o the_o scripture_n as_o neither_o do_v i_o perform_v any_o action_n simple_o because_o there_o be_v a_o example_n of_o such_o a_o action_n here_o but_o the_o adequate_a ground_n of_o my_o disclaim_v any_o action_n and_o so_o of_o communion_n with_o any_o church_n whatsoever_o be_v that_o i_o find_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n in_o the_o scripture_n for_o my_o do_v it_o but_o i_o may_v and_o do_v find_v sufficient_a ground_n in_o the_o scripture_n for_o my_o do_n of_o many_o thing_n of_o which_o i_o find_v here_o no_o example_n however_o upon_o this_o 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