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A44844 A reply to a book set forth by one of the blind guides of England who is a priest at Barwick Hall in Lancashire, who writes his name R. Sherlock, Batcheler of Divinity, but he is proved to be a diviner and deceiver of the people which book is in answer to some queres set forth to him by them whom he calls Quakers ... / Richard Hubberthorne. Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662. 1654 (1654) Wing H3231; ESTC R6754 26,134 33

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sold their estates and brought it and laid it downe at the Apostles feet Rep. Here J challenge all the Oxford and Cambridge Teachers in England how many of their converts have sold their estates and laid it downe at your feet but you teachers and they are so earthly minded you are fit to sue them at the law and imprison them as Lancaster and K●ndal● goals may wittnesse where many suffer now because they will not pay tithes and so you shew you preach another Gospell so let Christ and the Apostles judge you all to be without their doctrine and your convert as thou callest them to be without the Apostles and Christ let their example judge you all and so you shew that you never sowed spirituall things but only as a custome and a cloake thou bringest these words for the Apostle did reape carnal things where he sowed spirituall things Que. 22. What scripture is there to limit God to a place calling it a Church when as the Church is in God 1 Thes. 1.1 Pr. You cry down all distinctions as favouring of humane learning whereby the naked truth might be clearly and distinctly seen as it is in it self Rep. Here let all people take notice whether humane learning can open the naked truth Here thou wouldest make people beleeve that humane learning was before the naked truth and againe let all people take notice and see if the meeting in a steeple-house in England be a Church when so many hath beene moved of the Lord to come into meeting places among them and something hath been revealed to them and they have spoken and he that was the pretended teacher which was in the cheifest place in the Assemblie hath cryed out they disturb mee and then they have hailed them out to the stocks or prison and knockt them or bruized them and may be some have laine a quarter of a year in prison or more Now let all people take notice which have a love to God whether this be the Church which is the pillar and ground of truth or the ●age of uncleane birds which the Scripture speaks of when as the Scripture saith if any thing be revealed to him that stands by l●t the first hold his peace and the Church of God we owne but all such Churches as are fighters and which do imprison them who are moved of the Lord to come speake to them such Churches we deny And whereas thou slanderest us that we cry against the Ministers all such Ministers are to be cried against for they are contrary to the scripture Que. What scripture is there to have a Clark say Amen and to have groats apeece of the world for his trade Pr. And for the groat he receives yearly of some persons in the world J conceive it is not so much for saying Amen but he hath other offices Rep. Here thou goest about to justifie the Clarke and his groat and the custome of saying Amen which the Apostles practised no such thing neither had they any Clarke to say Amen which had a groat for his labour and let all the practise of the Apostles judg thee who saith that the Clarke hath other offices then saying Amen that is may be to ring the bell to gather carnall people together to hear such a blind guide as thou art and for laying you a cushion that you may lie soft or opening the booke or giving forth the Psalmes which all this here is no example for that the Apostles had any such thing but it is that you false prophets might utter forth your folly for to the children of light you are discovered and seen to be without the Doctrine of Christ and the Apostles and all the Scripture shall judge you and in thy answer thou dost conceive there thou hast brought thy selfe under that state which must be scattered for the Lord will scatter the proud in their vaine ●maginations and conceivings and let the Prophets words judge thee Que. 24. What Scripture is there for taking money for burying the dead or to have ten or twelve Shillings for preaching a Funerall Sermon or to take money for marrying man or woman Pr. For our paines in labouring in the word and doctrine the Apostle gives that general rule the labourer is worthy of his hire And what their wages is is not of our choosing but partly the liberality of founders and benefactors partly custome among all people in all Christian countries hath setled it Rep. Here thou usest the Apostles words which as I have shewed thee before thou art cleared from his life O thou blind guide whose mind is in the earth who art in the customes and art one of them that doth hold them up which all the Ministers of Christ are ashamed on thee and all thy generation who art without the life that gave ●orth the Scriptures who art one of them that goes in the way of Balaam who durst not take the gift though he loved it end as for the Apostles condition I charge thee and command thee to be silent and let it alone who denies immediate revelation from heaven therefore all that thou speakest is from the earth and below and the word thou knowest not which was in the beginning Joh. 1.1 when the letter was not and th●refore in it thou canst not learne and the Christians that are baptized into Christ are redeemed put of countries where yet thou art with thy customes and wayes of the Nation as thou dost confesse which Christ coms to redeem from and thou who receivest Balaam● wages art sp●ing forth thy venome against the righteous seed where ●t is rising Que. 27. When did any that was sent of Jesus Christ to preach the Gospel sue men at the Law Pr. Many differences may arise which cannot well be decided without suit at Law Rep. In thy answer to this querie thou dost allow of going to Law which the Apostle did not as in the Corinthians and he was a Minister of Christ and here thou shewest thou art none for thou allowest that he did not and who are come to the doctrine of Christ which is yea and nay there is no difference they need no going to Law there is no contention and many differences are in thy generation which is without Christ and his doctrine which many of you professed Ministers sue men at the Law which the Apostle forbad and here openly I charge you all in the presence of the living God to be no Minister of Christ but are raced from the doctrine of Christ and the Apostles and thou writest a scripture in Acts 19.38 as concerning the rude multitude that was stirred up when truth was spoken these were they which were not brought into the truth and there thou art among such a company let all people see how Acts 19. will justifie thee for going to Law who professes thy self to be a Minister of Jesus Christ which the Ministers of Christ denied and here J charge thee again to be a perverter
the spirit of love is thy generation tried for when the servants of the Lord have been moved to come into your Synagogues some hast beene stockt and wounded and imprisoned and hailed out of your synagogues And is this the fruits of your spirit Que. Whether they be not seducers that draw people from the annointing which is in them and tell them they must be taught of a man whereas the anoynting teacheth them they need no man teach them but as the annointing teacheth them and the promise is to him that doth abide in it eternally Pr. Many false prophets are gone forth Rep. Here thou hast proved thy self to be a false prophet who denies immediate revelation for whom the Lord sent forth he spoke to them immediately which thou deniest and there thou art one of the false prophets which thou speakest of and knowes nothing of the annointing who deceives the simple and ignorant the world may wonder after such but who are in the light and receive any thing immediate will see thee in the dark to be a deceiver for none in thy generation can witness that you need no man teach you but the annointing for who doth are come out from your teaching and you both And as touching Sects them we deny as thou speakest in thy answer to the fifteenth querie therefore do we see thee with that which is no Sect to be colouring and deluding people telling them thy error is truth who quotes and misapplies the Scripture to maintain thy falshood Pr. The flesh is quickened with the spirit of life to bring forth some kind of fleshly fruits 1 King 8.46 Ioh● 14.4 Prov. 20.9 1 Ioh. 1.8 10. Eccles. 7.22 Rep. Here I charge thee to be a lier and a blasphemer in the presence of the living God let all people read these scriptures and see if there be any such thing in them and whether thou hast not misapplied these scriptures when the spirit saith it crucifieth the deeds of the flesh and walking in the spirit the lusts of the flesh is not fulfilled and here I charge thee to be a lier and of the Devill who was a lier from the beginning and in his generation thou art Qu. 17. Whether they do not bewitch the people who withdraw them from the spirit within to observe the ordinances of the world and tradition● of men without as the Galatians were bewitched Gal. 3.1 Pr. I must tell you that there is not only a holy and good spirit within and that in too few but there 's also an evil and seducing spirit within and that in too many even the spirit that doth bewitch men and draw them aside from the doctrines and commands of the spirit of truth and to strive by all means to draw the people off from giving heed to seducing spirits it is not to observe the ordinances of the world and traditions of men as you pervert the text but to obey the command of Gods true spirit who foretelling of false prophets and false spirits often in the word commands exhorts and admonishes to beware of such not to give heed to such and not to believe every spirit but to trie them Rep. Here in this answer thy spirit is tried which I have given to all people to read with a single eye that all may see what confusion here is in it First thou sayest that the seducing spirit drawes from the seducing spirit and in the seducing spirit thou art and from the spirit of life with the spirit of life thou art judged to be out of the doctrine of Christ nor is not guided by the holy spirit Que. 18. Whether they be not seducers which tell people these are the ordinances of God which God never commanded as sprinkling infants telling people of a sacrament which there is no scripture for and draw them from the spirit within to follow your imaginations and inventions Pr. But for sprinkling infants I have already given you the grounds of it out of scripture Rep. Here again I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be a lyar there is not such a word in the scripture to bear it out nor a word of a sacrament which there is no scripture for let all read the scripture throughout and see if they can find such a word in the scripture so let all people judge thee to be a liar and a s●ducer and in the devils invention which calls that an ordinance of God which is invention and imagination Pr. We are not blind-folded to follow the dictates of the spirit within Rep. Here J charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be in the flesh and to follow the flesh for who are led by the spirit of God are the sons of God and thou that dost not follow the dictates of the spirit thou dost not follow the commands of God and what hast thou to do to talk of clearing it by the scripture when there is no scripture for it and when the scripture witnesses against the works of the flesh which thy spirit stirs up Qu● Whether you have the same spirit which was in Christ the Apostles and Prophets which gave forth the scripture seeing you act contrary to the scrip●ures and follow your own inventions and tradition● and so erre from them Pr. Our ministeriall actions are agreeable to the scripture Rep. Here J charge thee to be a lyar for in thy answer to the former Quere thou sayest you do not follow the dictates of the spirit within and art holding up sprinkling infants which there is no scripture for and so walk contrary to the scripture and to them that were led by the spirit which gave them forth Que. 2● Whether ever Christ and his Apostles did first baptize and then preach faith and repentance twenty or thirty years afterwards Pr. Christ himself wa● not capable of faith and repentance Rep. Here J charge thee to be a lier and a slanderer for he was capable of faith and repentance and the baptisme which the Apostles baptized withall what hast thou to do with it who art holding up sprinkling infants which there is no example for in the scriptures nor in all the Apostles practises Therefore silence flesh for thou knowest nothing of the wisdome of God which the Apostle speaks of but art in the state of Simon Magus who art buying and selling the letter worse then he for he would have bought the spirit which the Apostles denied so thou art denied with the same spirit but the saints baptisme we owne and the beleevers and the promises which is to the seed thou hast cleared thy selfe from who saith Christ was not capable of faith how could he be above it and not capable of it and the life that I live is by faith of the Son of God saith the Apostle which thou hast cleared thy selfe from Que. 21. Whether ever Christ and his Apostles received 100. or 200. pounds a yeare for preaching the Gospel Pr. Many of the Apostles converts
it was at Samaria who art in the pride of heart And as thou saiest the Devill hath sown his crop and r●apt his harvest and there thou art one of his servants sowing his seed and among the delusions as thou calls them fo● that is in thy Generation which comes one of thy owne bottle which now showes out what is within issues forth this is thy own condition who seduces the people the fire is kindling and the tares are burning which makes you wicked ones to cry out and so all impostures and blasphemies are in thy generation and you are ignorantly worshipping and your grosse idolatry which thou speakest of is your owne and thou art a murderer and understandest not what thou speakest of them and God thou knowest not who deniest imm●diate revelation from heaven but onely what thou knowest thou knowest naturally as a bruit beast which Iude speaks of and a great deal of stuffe thou hast in this Introduction which is not worth mentioning If the Reader do but read with a single eye he may see all thy confused stuffe which is not worth naming and a great deale of stuffe tho● hast written in discourse of the Spirit and the Holy Ghost which thou knowest not what thou speakest and of the Trinity which there is no Scripture for A Reply to an Epistle that thou wrotest to him whom thou callest Sir Robert Bindlosse THe Queries being sent to his house from Rich. Hubberthorne being his desire that they should be made publike and we do praise the LORD that deceipt is brought to light And thou sayest perhaps some satisfaction might be given to those seduced wavering soules amongst you truly I do believe they will and see your folly that under his name whom thou callest Sir Rob. Bindlosse under his name and patronage they may appear as a covert to veil● their imperfections But they will not vaile your imperfections Therefore R. B. to three I say be wise and feare the Lord and run not on in the broad way with such a one who doth confesse in his answer to the first querie that he doth not attain the same knowledge and understanding of the Gospell as the Apostles attained therefore thou R. Sh●rlock thy knowledge is bruitish and thy understanding sottish as the Scripture saith for none knowes the Apostles condition and knowledge but with the same understanding and in this thou deniest it and thou art in another knowledge and understanding and art in another doctrine and the true Gospel thou dost not know and thou art to be held accursed as the scripture saith Gal. 1. and so here thou hast given satisfaction to many that stood in doubt though to all the children of light thou wast known all things shal work together for good to them that love God Rom. 8. therfore R. B. take heed what thou lets forth under thy name and fathers for if thou see a thief and consent with him thou art guilty And R. Sherlock the queries that were sent to thee thou callest them scrupulous and the Letter which was sent to thee as a Libell why doest thou slander the innocent and simplicity but of thy generation we look for no other whose mouth is full of slanders Thou slanderer in thy Ep●st●e to the Lady thou slanderest privily under a colour who flatters her where thou art telling her of love and stirs her up to envy as in pag. 46. and incensing her and would stir her up against them wh●m th●u callest Quake●s so thou mightst as well have incensed her against Moses who was a judge over all Israel and quaked and David who was a King quaked so all that are vertuous wil own us who denieth opinions for them we deny and there thou art who livest in opinions and as thou speakest of some to strike at the root of many infections and errors which is overspread amongst you the Lord Iesus Christ hath raised up a light in his children that they are striking at your root and laying open the deceits and bringing forth his own work to his own praise and thou sayest all men do worship God and Christ with one heart and one mouth and after one manner is not only decryed but also dismist our Congregations And since the pale of Ecclesiasticall Discipline is pulled down by whose coercive lawes all men were kept within the limit of the true faith Here I charge thee to be a lyar was the true faith maintained by an outward Law and the Church and the worship of God Thou Traytor have they pluckt down the true Faith and the wo●sh●p of God or your old Ceremonies Thou seducer how art thou tormented by that which hath pluckt down the traditions Tremble for the hand and sword of the Lord is against thee as it was against them thou dissembler and envious one the Law was not made for the Church which is the pillar and ground of truth which worships God in the spirit but for such envious persons as thou art who hast cleared thy Church and worship here from the tr●e Church and worship of God to the view of all honest hearts and thou art tormented because the freedome i● given for the libertie of tender consciences to worship God his owne way even in spirit and in truth as in Joh. 4.23.24 And thou saiest since under the name and priveledge of ●iberty of conscience licentiousnesse of opinion hath got footi●g and this thou seemes to Father upon the Magistrats Wee which are in the light of Christ Jesus which doth excercise our consciences towards God and man all opinions and licentiousn●sse we deny Therefore thy mouth must be stopt Osl●nderer which sowet● dissention for since the Lord hath opened the Magistrates understanding with the light of Christ in them the same light doth give freedome to the light in others consciences which worketh into tendernesse of co●science and teacheth to exercise a good conscience towards God and man and such Magistrates do not make a law over the consciences of me● which thou seducer and bruitish fellow wouldest have a l●w up●n but the law is against such as thou art and so thou h●st shewed thy selfe to be in the franticke state and Heresie which th●u ●alks on and many such speeches as thou hast in thy Epistle to Sir R●● Bindl●ss as thou callest him and whereas thou speakest of your Church and hope your hope will perish and your Church and all who are in the light will be ashamed of your Church And thou art he who art of the Devil who dost promote lies ●nd untruths which is of thy Fathe● the Devill Joh. 8. ●4 But God is coming with his mighty power to chaine up thee thy Father the Devill the old Dragon who is the Father of lies and thou art one of his servants who blindeth the understandings of the people which are in the unbeleife and seeks to poison their affections with vanities and lying slanders and in thy conclusion thou wouldest not have him to
perish with the blind and giddy but if he follow such as thou art he doth follow both and in the ditch both will perish together And thou speaks to him of walking in the paths of the just and righteous and such thou privily slanders and their way hateth thou who walketh in the steps of the wicked and with those that forget God and thou must be cut down with the sword of the almighty God to that in thy Conscience I speak when thou art in the terror remember me for that in thy conscience condemn thee and witness me And friend to the light in thy conscience I speak under whose name this book goes there is thy Teacher if thou love it which is the light of Christ if thou love it it will teach thee as thou goes up and down and shew thee the way of the just for it is just it will condemn thee if thou hate And when the book of conscience is opened thou shalt witnesse what I speak that its truth to thy soul Pr. And whereas thou sayst you do neither pretend to any such sublime and eminent gifts neither do you nor ought you to depend upon any such immediate revelation but do use such ordinary means and helps which God in his merciful providence hath in all ages afforded his people viz. by study and industry in the Schools of the Prophets Schools thou sayest they had at Bethel 2 King 2 3 5. and Elisha's Colledge was so full that they enlarged it 2 Kings 6 1. 1 Sam. 14.20 and upon the hill of God 2 Sam. 10.5.10 Rep. Here let all these Scriptures witnesse against thee that thou art no true Prophet nor Minister of Christ which witnessed the end of the Prophets and were all taught of God which thou denies that denieth immediate revelation from heaven And here I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be a lyar and false Prophet and that thou art guided by the father of lyes Where thou tells of Elisha's Colledge and saith that it was so full that it was enlarged and brings in that place of Scripture to colour over thy lyes 2 Kings 6.1 Let that Scripture be a witnesse against thee that thou art a lyar and a perverter of the Scriptures thou full of all subtilties blush for shame thou lyar is there any mention of any Colledge there or is there any mention of the schools of the Prophets where the word of God was studied in those places of Scripture beforementioned as thou sayest let them witness thee All the Prophets where taught of God and there was no studying for what they spoke at Naioth see if they did not receive the Spirit of prophecy and spoke by immediate revelation which thou denies and knows not their maner of teaching and learning 1 Sam. 19.20 to the end of the Chap. and the prophecy came not in the old time by the will of man but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the holy Ghost and the Scripture is of no private interpretation 2 Pet. 1.20 21. Here art thou proved a lyar and a perverter of the Scripture wresting it to thy own destruction 2 Pet. 3.16 and the plagues and wrath is due to thee for so doing Rev. 22 Now call not truth railing thou dissembler and enemy of all righteousness the Scripture turns edge against thee and witnesses against thy deceits and filthiness whereby thou seeks to strangle the truth but thou art found out to be among the Dogs Sorcerers and Lyars spoken of in Scripture and art shut out of the kingdom of God art no Minister of Christ Rev. 22.15 18 19. Thou enemy of God how darest thou say that the Prophets studied the word when no prophecy came by the will of man but by the will of God and no man knoweth the father but the son neither knoweth any man the son but the father and he to whom he is revealed Matth 11.27 And here thou deniest both the Father and the Son and the Prophets and Apostles that denieth immediate revelation for they all bear witnesse against thee and such as thou art for the Apostle said Hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ And all the true Prophets witness that which thou denies And here I have proved thee a lyar a false Prophet and a deceiver perverting the Scriptures and they bear witness with me And thou full of all guile and deceit the word of the Lord shall rise up in judgement against thee and such as thou art Something in reply to thy discourse of the Spirit as thou calls it FRiend the Spirit of the living God thou hast not for thou denies immediate revelation from heaven who art discoursing of the Spirit and here thou art made manifest but to be in the pretence of the Spirit and knows nothing that is revealed with the spirit For thou that denies immediate revelation from heaven denies the spirit of the living God The Apostle said Eye hath not seen ear hath not heard neither hath it entred into the heart of man the things that God hath prepared for them that love him but God hath revealed them to us by his spirit 1 Cor. 2.9 10. And here thou that hast denyed immediate revelation from heaven hast denied the Spirit of God and manifested thy self to be in the natu●al state therefore I command thee and charge thee in the presence of the living God to be silent and to give over deceiving of the people 2. Thou that denies immediate revelation from heaven thou denies the grace that was to be brought unto the Saints whose mindes was to be girded up which grace was to be brought unto them at the revelation of Jesus Christ and this thou hast denied again as all people may see 1 Pet. 1.13 and here thou hast denyed Jesus Christ and this grace who denies immediate revelation and art in the fashion of the world and a blasphemer 3. Thou that hast denied immediate revelation from heaven hast denied the Spirit to pray with all and so all thy prayers is hypocrisie 4. Thou that hast denied immediate revellation from heaven hast denied the son of God For none knows the father but ths son and to whom the son reveals him Mat. 11.27 5. And thou that hast denied immediate and miraculous revelation from heaven hast not denied the son of God only but the father also And those that hast not the son of God hath not life Pr. The power is originally from God as the fountain but conveyed through the ministry of man as the conduit p. 90. Rep. Paul an Apostle not of man nor by man but by the will of God and here thou art proved to be a seducer and thy ministry contrary to his here thy spirit is tryed And thou slanders them who hears the voyce of God and art scorning them and in a deriding way calls it a deceitful eccho but we know
of Christ Pr. 'T is the very ground whereupon this last upstart crew of Quakers build all their resolutions and strange fanatick opinions and heresies even that which they call the light within us whereunto we must only give ear pag. 112. Rep. O thou impudent God will make thee an example thou lying spirit Is the Light which Christ hath enlightned every one withal that comes into the world a strange fanatick opinion which one he loves it and the other he hates it and he that hates it it is condemnation Here thou art against Christ and the Apostle for the Apostle did exhort the Saints to take heed unto the light within them untill the day dawn and the day-star arise in their hearts O thou Lyar did the Prophet call the true light a deceit of the heart or is the light of God a false vision Christ Jesus which doth enlighten every one that comes into the world which is witnessed among the Quakers and he that walks in the Light shall have the Light of Life and thou that hates this light speaks a divination of thy own brain and a lying imagination and with this light of Christ thou shalt be condemned thou blasphemer who calls the light of Christ heresie and fanatick opinions but here thou doest but fill up the measure of thy Fathers who calls this light which is Christ in us Heresie pag. 113. To all you Readers of his Book I speak to the Light of of Christ in you which if you love it it will bring you to weigh and comprehend his words and if you walk in it you shall have the light of life and you that hate it it shall be your Condemnation when the book of Conscience is opened you shall witness that I speak the truth to every one of your souls R. Sherlock thou bids them beware of false Prophets and saith the tryal of the spirit is the Word of God Rep. By the Word of God thou art tryed who art in the conceivings Again thou speakest of the High-priests and Pharisees that councelled against Christ to put him to Death Rep. So do you now where he is made manifest shewing your selves to be in the same generation Pr. It was this spirit also that stirred up Demetrius the Silver-smith with the rest of the Crafts-men against St. Paul and his companions because his profit and gain which he got by making silver shrines for Diana was in danger to be lost pag. 116. Rep. The same spirit now being made manifest it cryes against your Trades-men and Crafts-men and your Diana and your two great Schools where you learn your trade which are puddles of darkness and the same spirit being stirred up to crye against your profession it sets you in an uproar now as in the Synagogues we do witness Pr. And the earth opened her mouth and swallowed Corah and all his Company a fair warning for Lay-persons pag. 86. Rep. The judgment did not come upon Corah because they was Lay-persons but it was for gainsaying the truth as thou doest For many of them that gave forth the Scripture was plain men Paul a Tent-maker and most of the Apostles Fishermen Moses a keeper of She●● thou mayest call these Lay-men which gave forth the Scripture who make a trade of their words And here thou hast shewed that thou hast not the knowledge and understanding which the Apostles had which thou confessedst thou hadst not therefore thou art as a bruit beast and there I leave thee to be condemned with the light which thou callest Heresie RICHARD HUBBERTHORN FINIS Acts 33. Rom. 4 11. John 5.3 Jer. 1.5 6 Luk. 1.66.80 1 King 8.46 Joh. 14.4 Pro. 20 9. Joh. 18.10 Eccl. 7.22
of the scripture and void of the knowledge of Christ and the life of the Apostles and out of their doctrine and do not call this r●iling which is plainnesse of speech and love to thy soul Pr. And you raile very highly in scripture terms too whereby you take the garments of Gods holy Spirit and put them upon the Devils shoulders Rep. Here thou dost accuse us for railing speeches and as we told thee before that we deny and here thou callest thy self a Devil for of him thou art which thy pretences therefore woe is thy portion and whereas thou sayest we revile and accuse the brethren this is another of thy slanders we bid thee answer the queries and thou callest them scrupulous to thee they are so and again thou sayest we ●isapply the scripture that is false and the Lord Jesus Christ thou knowest not who deniest immediate revelation and what hast thou to do to talk of him and as throwing the woes which the Scripture speaks of which is against the deceits which thou livest in they are thy portion thou canst not escape them If we should not give thee thy due and portion we should flatter thee and it would not be love and why dost thou talk of understanding and bid us weigh and consider we have considered thy way and do know it and God hath given us an understanding in all things Pr. Hebrew and Greek we do truly call the Originall Rep. Here I charge thee that thou hast no more originall then Pilate thy father had Pilate had Hebrew and Greek which c●ucified Christ which was the originall and here I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be a lyar for the word was in the beginning before any tongue was and your Hebrew and Greek is naturall and the naturall man knows not the things of God and the world by wisdome knowes not God Pilate was a worldly man and he had this originall and the wisdome of the world and there thou art and and there the curse is upon thee so here thou preachest another originall then the Apostles did they preached Christ the fountain and ●hou preachest Hebrew and Greek that is thy originall and thy father Pilate had that originall which crucified Christ and set it over him and the scripture came not by the will of man Therefore it is not the knowing of it by Hebrew and Greek but by the spirit that gave it forth therefore all people take warning and cease from such deceivers and take heed to the light in your conscience which is the light of Christ to guide your minds up to God the Father of light and be not deceived nor wander not up and down after such who know not the truth but put Hebrew and Greek for the originall which Pilate had which crucified Christ Jesus as you may read in Luke 23. All people may see thou art brought no further yet then thy father Pilate so all thy prayers we deny for there is nothing of truth born up in thy understanding who are led with a seducing spirit into delusions who saith the spirit of life stirs up the flesh to bring forth fruits thou that art in the flesh cannot please God and there thy spirit is tried co be the spirit of error and a great deal of such stuffe thou hast in thy answers to the queries which is not worth mentioning and this thou hast written to publish thy self that them that have a love to Christ their hearts may be turned from thee to God to see how thou hast uttered forth thy folly though with many faire glosses thou and such as thou art deceives the simple but all who are is the light do see thee and comprehend thee Something in Reply to the Epistle thou wrotest to the Lady Bindlosse TO her thou speakest of the doctrine and spirit and the holy Ghost Here I charge the to be a liar who knowes nothing of them who denies immediate revelation for thou who deniest that deniest the Father and the Son as in Math. 11.27 Wherein goest thou about to exhort others who art in the condition thy selfe but art as Matthew that would be serving If she do but take heed to the light which Christ hath enlightened her withall she will quickly see thy folly for the light which Christ hath enlightened her withall shall be her condemn●tion if she hate it and if she love it it will guide her into the way of righteousnesse up to Christ and there O woman is thy teacher and this condemnation And the work which is brought forth in the North doth terment thee R. Sherlock and such as the Lord doth move to exhort or to speak such thou slanderest and dost accuse as tempting for the slanders and reproaches the woe wil turne upon thee from God who is the justifier of his children and with such Preists as thou art the righteous seed was ever hated as you may read throughout the Scriptures If she that thou callest a Lady be grounded upon thy doctrine and be a member with thee of thy body let her read thy answers to the queries and the replies to them to the light in her I speak which is of Christ which will witnesse mee and let her see thee and if her minde be guided by it it will condemne all her former practises of worship and let her see thy delusions And againe thou art flattering the Lady and tells her of a discourse of the spirit and these are thy unsavoury words who art discoursing of the spirit but denies it for thou that deniest immediate revelation denies the spirit ●n the Corinthians the Apostle said things were revealed to him by the spirit and all thy doctrines t● be denied and all that thou speakest and thou art seen to be one of the evill beasts and slow bellies whose mouth must be stopt and what dost thou tell her of growing up in the knowledg of God and stop the way for her to passe who deniest immediate revelations which the Apostle exhorted to and they Saints was to have the loines of their minds girded up as in the 1 Peter 1.13 And what hast thou to do to talk of heaven or happinesse who art a beast in thy colours And so this is the intent that I have written this reply to the Ep●stle which thou wrote to her thou calls Lady that she might with the light of Christ in her see thy folly for to that I speake which is the light of Christ which if she hate it it will be her eternal condemnation Somthing in Rebly to thy Introduction Pr. NO age hath brought forth more pretenders to the spirit of God then this wherein we live Rep. Let all people take notice if thou be not he that pretends the spirit who hath not the same understanding and knowledg that the Apostles had and there thou art in the pretence who art blind and thy worship as thou calls it is thou dost not know what worse then