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5._o art_n 35._o musculus_fw-la in_fw-la loc._n come_v zanch._n on_o 4t_n come_v junius_n animadvers_fw-la on_o bellarm_n controu._n 5._o l._n c._n 7._o cartwright_n on_o act._n 14._o v._n 23._o wallaeus_n bullinger_n wittaker_n see_v mr_n gilesp_n misc._n quest_n pag_n 18_o 19_o our_o first_o book_n of_o discipline_n appoint_v to_o the_o people_n their_o vote_n and_o suffrage_n in_o election_n of_o minister_n in_o the_o 4t_n head_n and_o the_o second_o book_n cap_n 3_o discharge_v any_o to_o intrude_v contrary_a to_o the_o will_n of_o the_o congregation_n or_o without_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o eldership_n a_o 4t_n essential_a point_n of_o presbyterian_a government_n in_o opposition_n to_o prelacy_n be_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o office_n of_o the_o rule_a elder_n as_o appoint_v by_o christ._n this_o we_o clear_v from_o scripture_n and_o there_o be_v as_o clear_v a_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n for_o it_o and_o of_o modern_a reform_a church_n and_o divine_n exhibit_v by_o our_o 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