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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15317	A copy of the decree wherein two bookes of Roger Widdrington an English Cathotholick [sic] are condemned, and the author commanded to purge himselfe: and a copy of the purgation which the same Roger Widdrington sent to his Holinesse Pope Paul the fift. Translated out of Latine into English by the author, whereunto he hath also adioined an admonition to the reader concerning the Reply of T.F. &c. and the condemnation of Fa: Suarez booke by a decree of the Parliament of Paris.; Exemplar decreti. English	Preston, Thomas, 1563-1640.	1614 (1614)	STC 25606; ESTC S119081	24,518	68

will bee nothing dangerous to handle it probably against an other As for example if it were agreed vpon by all Catholikes that the Pope hath no power to depose his Maiestie then it were dangerous to his Maiestie that any Catholike should call this in question and dispute it probably but if on the contrarie side all Catholikes should agree in this that it were certaine vnquestionable and a point of faith that the Pope hath power to depose his Maiestie and to absolue his Subiects of their allegiance to command them to take armes against him c. then if a Catholike should call this in question or which is all one dispute it probably and maintaine that it is not certaine that the Pope hath such an authoritie but it is questionable and probable that hee hath it not no man of any sense or vnderstanding can affirme that such a manner of disputing this question probably against those Aduersaries who hold it for certaine can be any way dangerous or pernicious to his Maiestie 8 Now behold the manner that I haue taken in handling this Controuersie Card. Bellarmin Gretzer Lessius Becanus Suarez and other Diuines especially of the Society of Iesus whom this Authour doth in euery steppe as though he were their Creature follow haue laid this for a sure and vndoubted ground that it is a point of faith and to be beleeued as certaine and vnder paine of eternall damnation by all Catholikes that the Pope hath power to depose Princes to absolue Subiects from their Allegiance and thereupon to commaund them to beare Armes and raise tumults against their Prince so deposed So that you see that they already haue layd the danger and vndoubted ouerthrow to his Maiesties person and Crowne if the Pope should perchance depose him in that they affirme that all Catholikes are bound in conscience to forsake him and to fulfill the Popes commaund to the destruction of His Maiesties person and State This Doctrine to wit that it is a point of Faith and vndoubted principle of Catholike Religion that the Pope hath power to depose Princes and to inflict all temporal punishments by way of coercion and that all Catholikes are bound in conscience to forsake his Maiestie and to beare Armes against him in case the Pope should depose him I haue taken vpon me for two principall reasons to impugne and do not doubt cleerely to maintaine the same against the clamours of this Authour or any other whatsoeuer My first reason was for that it is against the truth and puritie of the Catholike Church She being the piller and ground of truth that doubtfull opinions and which among Catholikes are onely in Controuersie and by the Parliament of Paris haue beene condemned as scandalous seditious damnable and Pernitious should be enforced vpon English Catholikes as an vndoubted doctrine of the Catholike Faith to the vtter ouerthrow of themselues and their whole posterity by mē who are in no danger to loose but rather to gaine temporall aduancement thereby 9 My second reason was to assure His Maiestie that all English Catholikes may according to the grounds of Catholike Religion be true and constant Subiects and that notwithstanding any sentence of excommunication or depriuation denounced or to be denounced against his Maiestie by the Pope they may with a safe conscience marke well what I say and also in practise they are bound to adhere to his Maiestie and obey him in temporals as still remaining their true and lawfull Soueraigne and to resist any such sentence of Excommunication or depriuation The reason wherefore I affirmed that Catholikes might with a safe conscience adhere to his Maiestie and resist the Popes sentence of depriuation was for that it is a probable opinion and which with a safe conscience and without danger of Heresie error or temerity may bee embraced by Catholikes that the Pope hath no authority to depose Princes nor to inflict temporall punishments by way of coërcion but that the last punishment to which the Ecclesiasticall power is extended are onely Ecclesiasticall and spiritual censures Wherefore that which this Author affirmeth that I confesse that it is probable that the Pope can depose Princes is vntrue vnlesse he meane that I confesse it for disputation sake or as we vsually say Dato non concesso it being giuen not graunted for that it maketh nothing for or against the question which is in hand Therefore positiuely I neither affirme it nor deny it neither with that part of the contradiction Whether it bee probable that the Pope can depose and whether it be probable that the Oath may not be taken doe I intermeddle but whereas our Aduersaries doe with so great violence mayntaine that it is certaine and an vndoubted doctrine of Faith that the Pope can depose and that the Oath cannot bee taken I at this present doe affirme the contrary That it is probable that the Pope cannot depose and that the Oath may lawfully be taken Neither doe I as this Authour imposeth vpon me take probable in that sense as Cicero in his Paradoxes did take it when he affirmed That nothing is so incredible which by arguing may not be made probable taking probable for that which hath som shew or color of probability or do I take probable for that which I hold for probable howsoeuer absurde it be as this Authour absurdly affirmeth that without doubt I doe but I doe take probable in that sense as Diuines doe take a probable opinion and which may be followed with a safe conscience as I declared out of Vasquez and hereafter against this Authour and his confused description of probable which serueth onely to intangle the consciences of the simple I will more at large declare in which sense no Heresie or erroneous doctrine can bee made probable the contrary being decided by the Church as this doctrin for the Popes power to depose neuer was but hath euer beene impugned by Catholike Writers vpon sufficient grounds and now lately condemned by the State of France as pernicious and damnable doctrine 10 But the second and principall reason which I brought for the securing of his Maiestie and which this Author T. F. fraudulently concealeth wherefore English Catholikes not onely may in speculation for the reason aforesaide but also in practise are bound to adhere to his Maiesty and to resist the Popes sentence of depriuation was for that supposing speculatiuely it be vncertaine whether the Pope hath any such power to depose a King or no it is an vndoubted rule among Lawyers and grounded vpon the light of nature and principles of Diuinity that in causa dubia siue incerta melior est conditio possidentis In a doubtfull and disputable case the state of him that is in possession is the better And againe Cum sunt iura partium obscura fauendum est reo potius quàm actori VVhen it is vnknowne which of the parties that are in suite hath right the defendant is to bee preferred before the