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A80609 A treatise of subiection to the powers. Preached almost a yeer since, and now copied out for the presse; yet not to flatter any, but to inform all. : To the powers I say as Jehosaphat did, 2 Chron. 9.6 ... : To others I say in the words of the apostle, I Pet. 2.13 ... / By Tho. Carre. Carre, Thomas, 1599-1674. 1651 (1651) Wing C640A; ESTC R173401 35,985 61

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of all Civill Engagements for unlimitted obedience is due to God only as is shewed before p. 27 28. Obj. But it will be said that this Engagement doth crosse and contradict 1. Both the Protestation made in Anno 1641. 2. And the Covenant made in Anno 1643. 3. And a Declaration of the House of Commons made in Anno 1646. 1. In the first we did Protest according to our duty of allegiance to maintain and defend his Majesties Royall person honour and estate Where was a full stop as not relating to any conditions 2. In the second we did covenant to preserve the Kings Majesties person and authority in the preservation and defence of the true Religion and the Liberties of the Kingdome That the world may bear witnesse with our consciences of our Loyalty and that we have no thoughts and intentions to diminish his Majesties just power and greatnesse 3. In the last it was declared by the House of Commons which Declaration was published in every Church and was commanded to be fastned up in every Church and is to be seen still in many Churches that their intentions were not to alter the Government by King Lords and Commons These things being protested covenanted and declared now to subscribe a Government without a King or House of Lords This is that which sticketh most and with many that are very moderate and truly conscientious R. This is thought to bee hard to bee answered But let us consider how things then stood And distinguish of the times 1. As things then stood all was really intended 2. But the Kings non-compliance and some miscarriage in the House of Lords have been the cause of the alteration of things both really intended Solemnly protested and Publikely declared 2. And though the Protestation was larger then the Covenant there being a full stop as not relating to any Conditions as I said before 2. Now his late Majesty continuing wilfully in his wayes which threatned ruine by his Forces to Religion and to Liberties Therefore the Covenant was upon second thoughts framed which was an addition to and an exposition of that clause of Defence as to his Majesties Person and Authority Shewing 1. Both wherein 2. And how far we should manage that Defence namely to the good of Religion and to the safety of the Commonwealth with all its just Rights and Priviledges and not to the prejudice of either So long as the King did shew himself a Father a foster Father of the Church and State the Kingdome was bound by its manifold engagements to defend his Person and his Power And had the King done his part timely and effectually it had been somewhat But consider 1. What Petitions were presented to him 2. What large proffers were made to him 3. What Delayes that I say nothing of Denyals were made by him 4. What Sinister Successes the many Addresses had from him 5. How fruitlesse all the Treaties have been since those engagements 6. What under-hand Dealings by his Party and not without his Privity there have been even during the times of those Treaties Whosoever shall but read that Declaration which setteth forth the reasons of the Resolves of both Houses then sitting for no more Addresses to be made to him shall see enough to make his heart relent in him even in both regards viz. of Religion and of Liberties I speak the truth in Christ Jesus I lie not my Conscience bearing mee witnesse in the Holy Ghost (r) Rom. 9. 1. That I cannot read it but my very Soul resolveth into teares at many things therein Declared which were of dangerous consequence both to Church and State And I hope no man can justly brand that Declaration with the imputation 1. Either of flattery on the one side 2. Or of falshood on the other If so it were ten thousand pities it is not published for generall satisfaction What passed in the Isle of Wight I cannot fully relate but somewhat there was which savoured not well as to security of Religion or Liberties which was the main cord of Obligation in all the Solemn Engagements both by Protestation and by Covenant 1. If any Commissions were then given underhand 2. If any Plottings by the Royall Party by vertue of any new or old Commissions to make that Treaty fruitlesse and Invalid even during the time of that Treaty 3. If any Combinations by the Royalists to attempt their owne ends by making Factions and Parties As who for King who for Parliament Of which the best affected had great Jealousies and not without just cause and many fears Then consider how farre that clause of Defence did oblige The ends being despaired of for to which those Engagements did relate Ob. Now some say that the whole Kingdome hath broken Covenant in not rising but sitting still till the King was put to death R. No the Covenant it self is not broken because the ends could not be secured And besides private men by private authority may not manage a rising against Authority The power of the Commons is in their trustees to them it belongs to Legitimate all publick Force Hee that taketh the Sword shall perish with the Sword saith Christ to Peter (s) Mat. 26. 52. that is he that taketh the sword of private revenge shall perish by the Sword of Publike Justice Well dead he is and not without the disposing hand of God It cannot be denyed but he was a personage of Rare and Royall parts And had he not been seduced by evil Counsels to his own ruine as Ahaziah was of whom it is said his Counsellors were the cause of his destruction (t) 2 Chron. 22. 4. Hee might still have been 1. A Glorious King 2. Over a most faithfull people 3. In a most flourishing Island But he is translated though by an untimely death to a more glorious company And now sits in a more glorious estate then ever he did on earth It was his Destiny laid on him by God and therefore while we lament as reflecting on his sad fate here let us rejoice in contemplation of his Glory in Heaven among the blessed Saints and Angels And now let us cast our eyes upon the Power now in being and since God hath set it up it is not in man to pull it down Subjection to the power is commanded by the Apostle And for my part since God hath set up this power and by it the Government I shall Subscribe freely resolving to be subject to the present Power because it is of God Ob. Here again some take offence Do you not see say they what a Confusion is crept in amongst us 1. All things 2. And almost all persons out of order Call you this a Reformation according to the Covenant R. I doe both see and mourn And it much dejects the hearts of many precious Saints to see 1. The Churches almost empty and the People running into Corners 2. The Publike Worship neglected 3. The Sacraments that of the Supper in
A TREATISE OF SUBIECTION TO THE POVVERS Preached almost a yeer since and now copied out for the Presse yet not to flatter any but to inform all To the Powers I say as Jehosaphat did 2 CHRON. ●9 6. Take heed what yee doe for ye judge not for men but for the Lord who is also with you in the judgment To others I say in the words of the Apostle 1 PET. 2. 13. Submit your selves to every Ordinance of man for the Lords sake whether it be to King as to Supream or to Governours as unto them that are sent of him for the punishment of them that doe evill and for the praise of them that doe well Homo sum non possum non errare Haereticus esse nolo quia sum Christianus By THO. CARRE London Printed for Andrew Kembe and are to be sold at his shop on Margarets Hill in Southwark 1651. To the Honor ble Committee for Plundered Ministers Happiness both here and for ever HONORABLE GENTLEMEN YEE are in place of high Trust under the Supream power of this Common-wealth whom God hath y 1. Advanced to highest dignit 2. And made prosperous even to wonder and admiration Never was this Common-wealth more populous Never were 1. Armies more potent 2. Souldiers more resolute 3. Successes more if I may use the word Fortunate The Heavens have been Auspicious The Celestiall Influences Propicious And God himself obvious to the eyes of all that can see In Miracles in Mercies in Victories Eternall fame attendeth the Assertors of our Liberties here Immortall glory in Heaven But my Intentions aime in particular at you Noble Trustees For yee are the Fathers of the Clergy to protect or to punish to Settle or Sequester according to merit and desert And I having from the first hitherto endeavoured to advance the Justice of the Cause so far as my weak abilities could attain To which end I both preached it up in the Countrey and penned an Apology which had the allowance of an Imprimatur by M. Iohn White 1643. But it miscarrying how I know not I made it as common as I could with my pen witnesse two Copies wherewith I presented the Honorable Committee at Bury besides others which I gave to some Commanders and other friends in the countrey And now the last September I preached the substance of this wherewith I now present your Honors in my Cure at Mickfield in Suff. But how it took I may in part judg I therefore now flie to you as to my City of Refuge humbly craving safeguard under the wings of your Benignity hoping of better acceptance from the Presse then from the Pulpit at that time This subject I know well is not pleasing unto all it hath I know not whether more enemies or friends Men love Liberty Restraint is tedious to the most Every one would rule few are willing to be ruled unlesse it be under such a person or in such a way as they do best affect But I look 1. Upon Government in generall as upon a speciall gift of God 2. Upon the present Government as upon a Notable and Singular Dispensation of over-ruling Providence And as Ioshua said to the people Choose you whom Jos 24. 14. yee will serve as for mee and my house we will serve the Lord. So say I Let others doe what they please I for my part will honor the present power with all realty and faithfulnesse and I will submit thereto both for his sake that hath set it up and for conscience of my duty The nature of this Discourse considered I durst not adventure it abroad but under favour and Protection of Authority And I hope your Honors will 1. Both allow the matter 2. And Protect the Author who layeth himself low at your feet humbly craving acceptance and if worthy countenance against all Anti-Parlimentarian Criticks Carpers and Deriders And so resteth he that is and will be A Servant of Servants to the Power and a faithfull Observant of your high authority under that power of this Common-wealth Tho. Carre From my Study July 31. 1650. To all my Loving Country-men the free Commoners of the Common-wealth of England Grace and Peace Men Brethren and Fathers My Respects answerable to your severall Places premised Know ye that I doe herein indeavour to hold forth 1. The much Questioned 2. But unquestionable Truth of Subjection to the Powers For men are miserably distracted at this time by reason of the overtures in Government They halt between the two opinions of Monarchy and Commonalty And as it was in times past the people were divided into two parts the one half followed Tibni the son of Ginah to make him King the other halfe 1 King 16. 21. followed Omri and which prevailed yee may there see So now a great part is for one kind of Government and a great for another I for my part look upon the present Power and I verily think I ought so to doe for Providence is predominant in this as well as in all other occurrencies For Promotion cometh neither from the East nor from the West nor from the South it is neither by Casualties nor from Constellations but it is God that putteth down one Psal 75. 7. and setteth up another And Daniel telleth King Nebuchadnezzar That the most High ruleth in the Kingdome Dan. 4. 17. of men and giveth it to whomsoever hee will and setteth over it the basest of the People And what God setteth up who can pull it down Beloved Countrey men I would the world should know 1. That as I would bee loth to shew my self a Claw-back Time server 2. So I would not willingly bee thought to bee a rigid Time-opposer But a most humble waiter upon God in the dispensations of his most wise and just providence And this I do solemly professe that I would sooner have 1. My Brains beaten out with Bats 2. My Tongue plucked out by the Roots 3. My hand chopt off with a Sword Then I would 1. Strain my Wit to invent 2. Give my tongue liberty to speak 3. Or publish ought with my Pen Whereby a lawfull right or interest might suffer the least prejudice I meddle not therefore with the much spoken of Right whether by Succession as men are pleased to call it or otherwise I leave that to Statists I meddle only with the Visibility of the Power And 1. Where or in whose hands it is we all see 2. From whom it is we cannot but know 3. What is our duty I do endeavour to shew Leaving the rest to your considerations Brethren I will not use many words for a word is enough to the wise and they that are otherwise will hear no reason Yet let me speak freely to you in the words of the Apostle Rom. 9. 1. I speak the truth in Christ Iesus I lie not my conscience also bearing me witnesse in the Holy Ghost I have written nothing in all this Discourse of Subjection but what is if I