Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n
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A51740
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A letter to a friend, shewing the vanity of this opinion that every mans sense and reason is to guide him in matters of faith.
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Manby, Peter, d. 1697.
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1688
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Wing M386; ESTC R31875
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but_o that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o reformation_n as_o that_o christ_n church_n can_v not_o subsist_v without_o it_o he_o proceed_v a_o garden_n be_v the_o same_o before_o it_o be_v weed_v and_o after_o to_o be_v purge_v do_v not_o give_v a_o new_a be_v to_o the_o body_n the_o glory_n of_o christ_n church_n be_v not_o extinguish_v by_o superstitious_a error_n but_o only_o eclipse_v page_n 1013._o of_o his_o work_n for_o the_o extent_n of_o our_o separation_n we_o have_v not_o leave_v the_o catholic_a church_n but_o only_o the_o roman_a church_n say_v he_o now_o i_o pray_v set_v aside_o the_o roman_a church_n name_v i_o that_o church_n under_o the_o sun_n who_o sacrament_n and_o liturgy_n the_o church_n of_o england_n embrace_n do_v she_o communicate_v with_o the_o greek_a church_n no_o that_o church_n be_v for_o mass_n the_o corporal_a presence_n invocation_n of_o saint_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n do_v she_o communicate_v with_o lutheran_n calvinist_n anabaptist_n etc._n etc._n no_o no_o lutheran_n be_v for_o the_o corporal_a presence_n the_o crucifix_n over_o the_o altar_n etc._n etc._n the_o calvinist_n and_o anabaptist_n have_v no_o order_n of_o priest_n and_o bishop_n therefore_o it_o be_v a_o question_n whether_o they_o have_v any_o true_a sacrament_n at_o all_o for_o we_o as_o for_o our_o part_n believe_v say_v bishop_n bramhall_n episcopacy_n to_o be_v at_o least_o a_o apostolical_a institution_n approve_v by_o christ_n himself_o in_o the_o revelation_n ordain_v in_o the_o infancy_n of_o christianity_n as_o a_o remedy_n against_o schism_n and_o we_o bless_v god_n that_o we_o have_v a_o clear_a succession_n of_o it_o page_z 133._o of_o his_o work_n print_v at_o dublin_n so_o that_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v at_o those_o word_n of_o he_o page_n 1018._o we_o have_v not_o leave_v the_o catholic_a church_n but_o only_o the_o roman_a church_n good_a sir_n name_v that_o church_n in_o europe_n asia_n africa_n or_o america_n who_o your_o reformer_n have_v not_o leave_v tell_v we_o in_o what_o city_n or_o province_n we_o shall_v find_v it_o then_o observe_v these_o word_n ibid._n p._n 1018._o we_o will_v admit_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v a_o sister_n if_o that_o will_v content_v they_o yea_o a_o elder_a sister_n and_o rather_o than_o fail_v to_o be_v a_o mother_n church_n to_o the_o saxon_n or_o ancient_a english_a but_o we_o may_v not_o allow_v they_o the_o place_n of_o a_o lady_n and_o mistress_n and_o further_o we_o believe_v the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v lead_v the_o catholic_a or_o universal_a church_n into_o all_o truth_n which_o be_v simple_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o preserve_v it_o from_o all_o such_o damnable_a error_n as_o be_v destructive_a to_o save_v faith._n pag._n 1018._o the_o difficulty_n sir_n be_v to_o find_v out_o this_o catholic_a church_n the_o province_n or_o city_n where_o it_o dwell_v before_o the_o reformation_n or_o since_o if_o it_o be_v not_o in_o o_o 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why_o do_v they_o attaint_v all_o the_o christian_a world_n of_o abominable_a and_o damnable_a idolatry_n for_o the_o space_n of_o 800_o year_n and_o more_o farewell_n sir_n give_v i_o leave_v to_o add_v by_o way_n of_o postscript_n that_o if_o you_o do_v not_o like_o this_o paper_n i_o shall_v desire_v to_o know_v your_o reason_n and_o when_o i_o know_v they_o perhaps_o i_o shall_v not_o like_o like_o they_o you_o allow_v every_o man_n his_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n that_o be_v a_o liberty_n to_o think_v or_o not_o think_v as_o you_o do_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n stick_v to_o that_o principle_n and_o i_o see_v not_o how_o you_o can_v find_v fault_n much_o less_o persecute_v any_o man_n opinion_n without_o contradict_v yourself_o but_o i_o have_v worse_a news_n than_o that_o to_o tell_v you_o the_o good_a people_n of_o these_o nation_n never_o dream_v of_o a_o thing_n call_v a_o republic_n or_o free_a state_n before_o the_o bless_a day_n of_o reformation_n that_o be_v until_o 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man_n neither_o be_v they_o out_o of_o the_o pale_a of_o the_o church_n nor_o out_o of_o the_o way_n of_o salvation_n pag._n 396._o of_o his_o work_n print_v at_o dublin_n thus_o sir_n your_o answer_n be_v so_o fâ—r_v from_o excuse_v the_o liberty_n of_o this_o thing_n calâ—ed_v every_o man_n judgement_n of_o discretion_n that_o they_o expose_v the_o vanity_n and_o uncertainty_n of_o it_o for_o you_o see_v how_o the_o first_o reformer_n by_o virtue_n of_o their_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n do_v attaint_v all_o christendom_n of_o damnable_a idolatry_n for_o the_o space_n of_o 800_o year_n and_o more_o and_o how_o bishop_n bramhall_n by_o virtue_n of_o his_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n pronounce_v they_o only_o material_a idolater_n that_o be_v no_o idolater_n in_o the_o eye_n of_o god_n or_o discern_a man_n nor_o out_o of_o the_o pale_a of_o the_o church_n or_o way_n of_o salvation_n his_o reason_n you_o shall_v hear_v by_o and_o by_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n you_o shall_v find_v nothing_o in_o all_o this_o paper_n that_o deny_v the_o modest_a use_n of_o our_o reason_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n it_o only_o intimate_v the_o uncertainty_n of_o reason_n that_o a_o wise_a man_n can_v trust_v it_o when_o it_o contradict_v the_o receive_a faith_n of_o the_o church_n and_o true_o unless_o it_o be_v govern_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n that_o be_v with_o humility_n and_o charity_n it_o run_v as_o natural_o into_o schism_n heresy_n and_o rebellion_n as_o a_o cockatrice_n egg_n into_o a_o serpent_n give_v i_o leave_v to_o recommend_v to_o your_o consideration_n these_o follow_a text_n of_o scripture_n and_o then_o conclude_v with_o a_o few_o passage_n out_o of_o bishop_n bramhall_n knowledge_n puff_v up_o but_o charity_n edifi_v and_o if_o any_o man_n think_v that_o he_o know_v any_o thing_n he_o know_v nothing_o yet_o as_o he_o ought_v to_o know_v but_o if_o any_o man_n love_n god_n the_o same_o be_v know_v of_o he_o 1_o cor._n 8.3_o see_v thou_o a_o man_n wise_a in_o his_o own_o conceit_n there_o be_v more_o hope_n of_o a_o fool_n then_o of_o he_o proverb_n 26.12_o be_v not_o wise_a in_o thy_o own_o eye_n fear_v the_o lord_n and_o depart_v from_o evil_n prov._n 3.7_o charity_n never_o fail_v but_o whether_o there_o be_v prophecy_n they_o shall_v fail_v whether_o there_o be_v tongue_n they_o shall_v cease_v whether_o there_o be_v knowledge_n it_o shall_v vanish_v away_o for_o we_o now_o see_v through_o a_o glass_n dark_o but_o then_o face_n to_o face_n 1_o cor._n 13.8_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n one_o towards_o another_o mind_v not_o high_a thing_n be_v not_o wise_a in_o your_o own_o conceit_n rom._n 12.16_o all_o this_o have_v i_o prove_v by_o wisdom_n i_o say_v i_o will_v be_v wise_a but_o it_o be_v far_o from_o i_o eccles_n 7.23_o for_o vain_a man_n will_v be_v wise_a though_o he_o be_v bear_v like_o the_o wild_a ass_n colt_n job_n 11.12_o wo_n unto_o they_o that_o be_v wise_a in_o their_o own_o eye_n and_o prudent_a in_o their_o own_o sight_n isa_n 5.21_o trust_v unto_o the_o lord_n with_o all_o thy_o heart_n and_o lean_v not_o unto_o thy_o own_o understanding_n prov._n 3.5_o these_o text_n though_o i_o say_v it_o have_v be_v good_a advice_n for_o the_o first_o reformer_n cranmer_n cromwell_n ann_n bolen_n ridly_n latimer_n dudley_n somerset_n etc._n etc._n who_o charity_n or_o modesty_n a_o man_n can_v never_o admire_v when_o he_o serious_o reflect_v upon_o these_o word_n of_o their_o book_n of_o homily_n viz._n not_o only_o the_o unlearned_a and_o simple_a but_o the_o learned_a and_o wise_a not_o only_o the_o people_n but_o the_o bishop_n not_o the_o sheep_n but_o also_o the_o shepherd_n themselves_o who_o shall_v have_v be_v guide_n in_o the_o right_a way_n as_o blind_a guide_n of_o the_o blind_a fell_a both_o into_o the_o pit_n of_o damnable_a idolatry_n in_o the_o which_o all_o the_o world_n as_o it_o be_v drown_v continue_v until_o our_o age_n that_o be_v until_o henry_n 8_o and_z edward_z 6._o by_o the_o 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authorise_v such_o immodesty_n then_o remember_v the_o divine_a indignation_n against_o uzzab_n for_o presume_v to_o put_v forth_o his_o hand_n uncommand_v to_o support_v the_o ark_n from_o fall_v 1_o chron._n 13._o if_o they_o have_v any_o do_v i_o or_o yourself_o the_o kindness_n to_o produce_v it_o that_o we_o may_v see_v the_o content_n of_o it_o and_o there_o be_v a_o end_n of_o the_o controversy_n but_o do_v not_o pretend_v a_o mission_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o from_o christ_n by_o the_o hand_n of_o roman_a catholic_a bishop_n for_o that_o be_v like_o take_v up_o arm_n by_o the_o king_n authority_n against_o the_o king_n person_n and_o by_o the_o same_o pretence_n a_o lutheran_n minister_n have_v receive_v his_o order_n from_o a_o roman_a bishop_n may_v preach_v against_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n beside_o that_o it_o serve_v as_o well_v we_o roman_a catholic_n to_o preach_v against_o your_o church_n since_o you_o can_v never_o invalidate_v our_o mission_n without_o destroy_v your_o own_o do_v not_o roman_a catholic_n lutheran_n etc._n etc._n think_v they_o understand_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n as_o well_o as_o you_o or_o what_o extraordinary_a thing_n do_v you_o pretend_v to_o i_o conclude_v with_o these_o passage_n out_o of_o bishop_n bramhall_n and_o i_o promise_v you_o his_o own_o word_n fair_o first_o see_v page_n 133_o of_o his_o work_n print_v at_o dublin_n where_o you_o shall_v find_v he_o answer_v this_o objection_n that_o we_o mean_v the_o protestant_n have_v schismatical_o separate_v ourselves_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o our_o ancestor_n who_o we_o believe_v to_o be_v damn_a etc._n etc._n he_o answer_v first_o for_o our_o natural_a father_n the_o answer_n be_v easy_a we_o do_v not_o condemn_v they_o nor_o separate_v ourselves_o from_o they_o charity_n require_v both_o to_o think_v well_o and_o speak_v well_o of_o they_o but_o prudence_n command_v we_o to_o look_v well_o to_o ourselves_o so_o say_v the_o presbyterian_o and_o independent_o excuse_v their_o not_o communicate_v with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n we_o believe_v our_o father_n may_v partake_v of_o some_o error_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n we_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o they_o be_v guilty_a of_o any_o heretical_a pravity_n observe_v this_o but_o hold_v always_o the_o truth_n implicit_o in_o the_o preparation_n of_o their_o mind_n and_o be_v always_o ready_a to_o receive_v it_o when_o god_n shall_v please_v to_o reveal_v it_o unto_o they_o upon_o these_o ground_n we_o be_v so_o far_o from_o damn_v they_o that_o we_o be_v confident_a they_o be_v save_v by_o a_o general_a repentance_n etc._n etc._n then_o see_v page_n 68_o of_o his_o whole_a work_n if_o man_n may_v not_o be_v save_v by_o a_o general_a and_o implicit_a repentance_n they_o be_v in_o a_o woeful_a condition_n for_o who_o can_v tell_v how_o oft_o he_o offend_v psal_n 19_o and_o if_o by_o a_o general_a and_o implicit_a repentance_n why_o not_o 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