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A31002 Select discourses concerning 1. councils, the Pope, schism 2. the priviledges of the isle of Great Britain 3. the Popes primacy, and the supream power of kings, both in temporals and also spirituals ... / by F. Barnes, of the Order of St. Benedict. Barnes, John, d. 1661. 1661 (1661) Wing B866; ESTC R9065 18,723 62

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