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&_o exclama_fw-la quoniam_fw-la multi_fw-la silij_fw-la desertae_fw-la magis_fw-la quam_fw-la ejus_fw-la quae_fw-la habet_fw-la virum_fw-la comparent_fw-la isti_fw-la multitudinem_fw-la svam_fw-la in_o aphrica_fw-la constitutam_fw-la cum_fw-la multitudine_fw-la judaeorum_n per_fw-la omnes_fw-la terras_fw-la quacunque_fw-la dispersi_fw-la sunt_fw-la et_fw-la videant_fw-la quam_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o illorum_fw-la comparatione_fw-la paucissimi_fw-la quomodo_fw-la ergò_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la dictum_fw-la assignabunt_fw-la multi_fw-la silij_fw-la desertae_fw-la quam_fw-la ejus_fw-la quae_fw-la habet_fw-la virum_fw-la rursus_fw-la comparent_fw-la multitudinem_fw-la christianorum_fw-la per_fw-la omnes_fw-la gentes_fw-la quibus_fw-la non_fw-la communicant_a &_o videant_fw-la quam_fw-la pauci_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o comparatione_fw-la omnes_fw-la judei_fw-la &_o tandem_fw-la aliquandò_fw-la intelligant_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la diffusa_fw-la istam_fw-la 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gentes_fw-la incipientibus_fw-la ab_fw-la jerusalem_n quid_fw-la hac_fw-la voce_fw-la veratiùs_fw-la quid_fw-la diviniùs_fw-la quid_fw-la manifestiùs_fw-la i_o piget_fw-la commendare_fw-la verbis_fw-la meis_fw-la &_o haereticos_fw-la non_fw-la pudet_fw-la oppugnare_fw-la verbis_fw-la suis_fw-la dicant_fw-la ea_fw-la testimonia_fw-la quae_fw-la posui_fw-la de_fw-la lege_fw-la &_o prophetis_fw-la &_o psalmis_fw-la obscura_fw-la esse_fw-la &_o figuratè_fw-la dicta_fw-la etiam_fw-la aliter_fw-la posse_fw-la intelligi_fw-la quanquam_fw-la &_o in_o eye_n egerim_fw-la quantum_fw-la potui_fw-la ut_fw-la nec_fw-la audeant_fw-la dicere_fw-la sed_fw-la ecce_fw-la dicant_fw-la nunquid_fw-la &_o obscure_a dictum_fw-la aut_fw-la aenigmatis_fw-la velamento_fw-la adumbratum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la ipse_fw-la christus_fw-la dixit_fw-la quia_fw-la sic_fw-la scriptum_fw-la est_fw-la &_o sic_fw-la opportebat_fw-la christum_fw-la pati_fw-la &_o resurgere_fw-la tertio_fw-la die_fw-la &_o predicari_fw-la 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