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A47897 The observator defended by the author of the Observators : in a full answer to severall scandalls cast upon him, in matters of religion, government, and good manners. L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704. 1685 (1685) Wing L1283; ESTC R39044 26,127 41

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