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A65773 An apology for Rushworth's dialogues wherein the exceptions for the Lords Falkland and Digby and the arts of their commended Daillé discover'd / by Tho. White. White, Thomas, 1593-1676. 1654 (1654) Wing W1809; ESTC R30193 112,404 284

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