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so_o he_o and_o by_o this_o you_o may_v see_v what_o account_n they_o make_v both_o of_o s._n augustine_n and_o other_o father_n notwithstanding_o for_o a_o show_n sometime_o they_o will_v cyte_v some_o place_n out_o of_o they_o little_o to_o the_o purpose_n but_o be_v wit_v in_o their_o own_o conscience_n that_o real_o and_o substantial_o they_o make_v against_o they_o they_o shift_v they_o of_o final_o in_o this_o order_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v and_o will_v believe_v and_o teach_v only_a as_o please_v themselves_o which_o be_v the_o peculiar_a pride_n and_o willfullnes_n of_o heresy_n from_o which_o god_n deliver_v us._n and_o with_o this_o i_o end_v this_o whole_a treatise_n finis_fw-la anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 215._o euseb._n l._n 6._o hist._n c._n 14._o hier._n de_fw-fr vir_fw-la illust._n in_o caio_n bed_n l._n 1._o hist._n c._n 14._o &_o const._n presbyt_fw-la in_o vita_fw-la s._n lupi_fw-la episc_fw-la see_v the_o act_n of_o this_o disputation_n in_o possid_n l._n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la aug._n c._n 3._o aug._n epist_n 244._o s._n austin_n disputation_n with_o foelix_n manichaeus_n s._n ausren_a his_o disputation_n with_o the_o donatist_n brevic_fw-la collat_n primi_fw-la diei_fw-la aug._n in_o brevic_n epist._n ad_fw-la gaudent_fw-la acta_fw-la apud_fw-la aug._n ep_v 157._o &_o l._n 2._o retract_v c._n 51._o &_o possidon_n in_o vita_fw-la aug._n c._n 14._o possid_n ib._n cap._n 17._o s._n augustine_n disputation_n with_o the_o atrian_o aug._n epist_n 73._o 74._o 75._o 76._o 77._o photius_n in_o bibliotheca_fw-la anastasius_n hoc_fw-la anno_fw-la beda_n l._n 3._o hâ—st_n cap._n 25._o public_a disputation_n refuse_v by_o s._n ambros._n upon_o just_a cause_n ambros._n epist_n 31._o where_o be_v extant_a also_o the_o book_n send_v by_o ambrose_n to_o valentinian_n paul_n in_o vita_fw-la ambrosij_n the_o comparison_n between_o cath_z &_o heretical_a disputation_n disputation_n fit_a in_o some_o to_o move_v doubt_n &_o examine_v the_o truth_n then_o to_o resolve_v the_o same_o aug._n l._n de_fw-fr moribus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la contra_fw-la manicheos_n aug._n confess_v lib._n 5._o cap._n 13._o &_o lib._n 6._o c._n 1._o 2._o 11._o what_o force_n disputation_n have_v in_o resolve_v matter_n of_o faith_n act._n 15._o the_o manner_n of_o proceed_v under_o the_o apostle_n the_o want_n which_o sectarye_n have_v to_o determine_v matter_n by_o cicero_n in_o paradox_n the_o willfullnes_n of_o foxtan_n unlearned_a sectarye_n in_o disputation_n disputation_n mensiâ—us_fw-la jan_n mars_n sept_n &_o noucmb_n the_o story_n of_o a_o mani_n hean_v woman_n that_o dispute_v with_o a_o bishop_n mareus_n in_o vita_fw-la s._n porphirij_fw-la the_o cause_n of_o the_o edition_n of_o these_o disputation_n first_o disputation_n of_o peter_n martyr_n at_o oxford_n 1549._o fox_n pag._n 1249._o fox_n pag._n 1115._o &_o 1205._o see_v statue_n book_n a_o 1._o edw._n 6._o cap._n 1._o fox_n pag._n 1548._o zuinallanisue_v admit_v 1546._o 1546._o sup._n decemb_n 26._o see_v doctor_n saunders_n l._n 2._o de_fw-la sehi_fw-la m._n aâ—gl_n 1._o cor._n 11._o the_o dissemble_a of_o peter_n martyr_n &_o bucer_n luth._o lib._n count_n sacrament_n &_o alibi_fw-la sapâ—_n three_o question_n to_o be_v dispute_v at_o oxford_n 1549._o see_v the_o defence_n of_o the_o relation_n of_o 〈◊〉_d his_o disputation_n with_o b._n peâ—on_n of_o eureux_fw-fr tom_fw-mi 2_o part_n 3_o or_o our_o three_o convernon_n two_o similitude_n to_o express_v the_o vain_a wtangle_a of_o sacramentarye_n about_o transubstantiation_n fraudulent_a deal_n of_o protestant_n in_o disputation_n fox_n pag._n 1249._o 2._o fraud_n see_v afterward_o c._n 3._o fox_n pag._n ibid._n 3._o fraud_n sand_n lâ—b_n 2._o the_o schism_n angl._n d._n saunders_n relation_n of_o this_o disputation_n at_o oxford_n the_o second_o disputation_n hold_v by_o d._n ridley_n in_o cambridge_n trifle_a disputation_n of_o our_o first_o protestant_n fox_n pag._n 1254._o fox_n pag._n 1255._o fox_n note_v the_o disagreement_n of_o his_o own_o man_n ridleyes_n fond_a aunsweringe_v fox_n pag._n 1256._o the_o 3._o disputation_n at_o cambridge_n anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1549._o d._n perne_n confess_v the_o corporal_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n fox_n pag._n 1257._o fond_a argument_n of_o sacramentarye_n albanus_n langlandus_n in_o confut_o determ_fw-la nicol._n ridley_n the_o partial_a dealing_v of_o protestant_n in_o their_o disputation_n psalm_n 115._o the_o 4._o disputation_n at_o cambridge_n 1549._o fox_n pag._n 1257._o d._n pearne_v speak_v doubtful_o &_o double_o about_o the_o sacrament_n the_o fond_a manner_n of_o this_o disputation_n fox_n pag._n 1260._o contradiction_n in_o fox_n his_o word_n m._n vavesour_n commend_v zuinglius_fw-la and_o oecolampadius_n doubtful_a of_o their_o doctrine_n at_o the_o begin_v fox_n pag._n 1261._o the_o 5._o disputation_n or_o determination_n at_o cambridge_n by_o m._n ridley_n fox_n pag._n 1261._o ridley_n his_o entrance_n to_o his_o determination_n diverse_a consideration_n about_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o protestant_n belief_n five_o pretend_a head_n of_o ridleyes_n determination_n ridleyes_n resolution_n about_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n fox_n pag._n 1262._o hebr._n 9_o &_o 10._o the_o miserable_a proceed_n of_o ridley_n the_o sixth_o disputation_n at_o cambridge_n by_o bucer_n 1549._o martin_n bucer_n in_o great_a distress_n distress_n mensae_fw-la decemb._n cap._n 16._o fox_n pag._n 1262_o &_o 1263._o the_o question_n of_o bucers_n disputatio_fw-la how_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a to_o salvation_n a_o case_n representinge_v the_o heretic_n of_o our_o day_n about_o cryinge_v for_o scripture_n alone_o matt._n 18._o 1_o tim_n 3_o marc._n ult._n matt._n 16._o the_o second_o paradox_n of_o martin_n bucer_n mattâ—_n 18._o 1._o tim._n 5._o marc._n ult._n matth._n 16._o the_o three_o paradox_n of_o martin_n bucer_n exod._n 1._o ezech._n 20._o hier._n in_o comment_n in_o cap._n 20._o ezech._n dan._n 4._o act._n 10._o aug._n l._n the_o pradestinat_a sanct_n cap_n 7._o &_o lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr baptis_n c._n 3._o &_o l._n 4._o c._n 23._o fox_n pag._n 1263._o a_o altercation_n between_o custom_n &_o verity_n auâ—_n epist_n 118._o ad_fw-la jaâ—uer_n custom_n and_o verity_n can_v be_v at_o odds_o in_o the_o christian_a church_n the_o 7._o disputation_n in_o the_o connocation_n house_n armo_fw-la 1553._o fox_n pag._n 1284._o m._n doctor_n weston_n prolocutor_n fox_n ibid._n six_o only_o of_o all_o the_o convocation_n house_n refuse_v to_o subscribe_v m._n cheiney_n d._n moreman_n m._n elmour_n m._n philpot._n fox_n pag._n 1285._o john_n philpotis_n vaunt_v in_o the_o convocation_n house_n fox_n ibid._n three_o disputation_n in_o oxford_n against_o cranmer_n ridley_n and_o latymer_n fox_n pag._n â—299_n fox_n ibid._n the_o indifferent_a dealing_v of_o cath._n in_o their_o disputation_n the_o foolish_a reprehension_n use_v by_o cranmer_n &_o fox_n fox_n pag._n 1326._o fox_n pag._n 1336._o the_o protestant_a minister_n excuse_v they_o solue_v from_o disputation_n the_o disputation_n of_o k._n henry_n wiâ—h_v lambert_n lambert_n sup_v â—â—p_n 14_o diâ—_n 4._o octob._n a_o pretend_a disputation_n in_o the_o begin_v of_o q._n elizabethes_n reign_n anno_fw-la 1559._o the_o great_a inequality_n &_o injury_n offer_v in_o this_o pretend_a disputation_n fox_n page_n 1924._o three_o question_n to_o small_a purpose_n fox_n pag._n 1919._o diverse_a fraud_n 1._o 2._o fox_n pag._n 1923._o col_fw-fr 1._o num_fw-la 1._o 3._o three_o indignity_n oâ—â—ered_v unto_o the_o bishop_n d._n colâ—_n a_o ostentation_n of_o the_o protestant_a side_n fox_n pag._n 1922._o open_v inequality_n altercation_n of_o the_o bishop_n with_o sir_n nicolas_n bacon_n the_o resolute_a speech_n of_o d._n watson_n b._n of_o lincoln_n another_o altercation_n with_o the_o l._n keeper_n stow_n anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1559._o the_o issue_n of_o this_o disputation_n with_o the_o bishop_n fox_n pag._n 1297._o the_o inference_n upon_o these_o disputation_n ten_o counsel_n examine_v &_o confirm_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n laufrane_n contra_fw-la berengarium_fw-la berengarium_fw-la wald_n tom_fw-mi 2._o de_fw-fr sacram._n
to_o adventure_v upon_o so_o great_a a_o change_n in_o belief_n as_o this_o be_v after_o so_o many_o year_n be_v a_o priest_n and_o catholic_a bishop_n and_o offer_v sacrifice_n after_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n from_o the_o first_o day_n of_o our_o contreyes_n conversion_n unto_o the_o end_n of_o k._n henry_n reign_n his_o motive_n be_v as_o you_o hear_v certain_a place_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v only_o take_v out_o of_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrews_n talk_v of_o christ_n bloody_a sacrifice_n on_o the_o cross_n which_o be_v but_o 10._o one_o &_o certain_a place_n of_o the_o father_n to_o wit_n two_o or_o three_o misunderstand_v out_o of_o s._n augustine_n ridley_n and_o one_o out_o of_o fulgentius_n all_o which_o notwithstanding_o prove_v nothing_o for_o his_o purpose_n as_o after_o you_o shall_v see_v declare_v in_o their_o place_n and_o turn_v and_o the_o self_n same_o father_n have_v so_o many_o other_o clear_a place_n to_o the_o contrary_a as_o we_o will_v desire_v no_o better_a judge_n for_o proof_n of_o our_o catholic_a cause_n then_o if_o ridley_n will_v remit_v himself_o to_o these_o two_o father_n judgement_n by_o he_o cite_v against_o we_o for_o that_o both_o of_o they_o do_v profess_v themselves_o to_o be_v priest_n and_o to_o offer_v external_a sacrifice_n upon_o the_o altar_n as_o our_o priest_n do_v now_o 27._o consider_v then_o how_o wise_a and_o constant_a a_o man_n ridley_n be_v to_o leave_v his_o ancient_a faith_n so_o general_o receive_v throughout_o all_o christendom_n in_o his_o day_n and_o so_o many_o year_n practise_v by_o himself_o upon_o two_o such_o motive_n as_o be_v certain_a place_n of_o scripture_n misunderstand_v by_o himself_o and_o certain_a testimony_n of_o father_n that_o seem_v to_o he_o to_o have_v some_o difficulty_n which_o jevity_n be_v so_o displeasaunt_a unto_o almighty_a god_n as_o by_o the_o effect_n we_o see_v that_o whereas_o at_o the_o beginning_n he_o seem_v to_o doubt_v upon_o these_o two_o motive_n leave_v other_o man_n to_o judge_v thereof_o he_o become_v by_o little_a and_o little_a to_o be_v so_o obstinate_o blind_v at_o length_n therein_o as_o albeit_o some_o four_o or_o five_o year_n after_o he_o be_v open_o convict_v in_o disputation_n at_o oxford_n as_o by_o his_o answer_n you_o shall_v afterward_o see_v yet_o be_v he_o content_a to_o burn_v for_o the_o same_o which_o be_v the_o high_a degree_n of_o calamity_n that_o can_v fall_v upon_o he_o in_o body_n and_o soul_n and_o thus_o much_o of_o he_o and_o his_o determination_n for_o the_o present_a sixth_o disputation_n §._o 6._o 28._o in_o all_o the_o former_a disputation_n both_o at_o oxford_n and_o cambridge_n you_o shall_v find_v nothing_o 1549._o of_o friar_n martin_n bucer_n no_o not_o so_o much_o as_o that_o he_o be_v once_o name_v in_o all_o these_o conflict_n about_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n and_o yet_o you_o must_v remember_v that_o he_o be_v principal_a reader_n of_o divinity_n in_o cambridge_n at_o this_o time_n as_o peter_n martyr_n be_v in_o oxford_n and_o therefore_o as_o the_o first_o place_n be_v give_v to_o the_o say_v peter_n in_o oxford_n so_o it_o be_v likely_a that_o the_o same_o will_v have_v be_v to_o martin_n in_o cambridge_n if_o they_o have_v find_v he_o so_o pliable_a to_o their_o hand_n in_o his_o opinion_n about_o the_o sacrament_n as_o the_o other_o be_v but_o in_o no_o case_n will_v he_o be_v induce_v as_o yet_o to_o accommadate_n himself_o therein_o and_o therefore_o have_v he_o not_o any_o part_n distress_n allow_v he_o in_o this_o comedy_n either_o of_o defendant_n opponent_n disputer_n counselour_n moderator_n assistant_n or_o other_o office_n or_o employment_n nay_o it_o be_v think_v that_o he_o incur_v so_o great_a disgrace_n about_o this_o matter_n as_o he_o can_v willing_o have_v depart_v the_o realm_n again_o as_o bernardinus_fw-la ochinus_n upon_o such_o like_a discontentment_n do_v from_o london_n have_v not_o the_o necessity_n of_o his_o woman_n and_o other_o impediment_n of_o poverty_n let_v he_o not_o know_v well_o whither_o to_o go_v as_o be_v expulse_v from_o argentina_n at_o his_o come_n to_o england_n as_o 16._o before_o we_o have_v show_v in_o the_o story_n of_o his_o life_n 29._o wherefore_o resoluinge_v himself_o at_o length_n to_o pass_v over_o this_o mortification_n and_o to_o give_v our_o english_a protestant_n some_o satisfaction_n though_o not_o in_o the_o point_n which_o they_o desire_v he_o think_v it_o good_a after_o ridleyes_n departure_n to_o defend_v certain_a other_o paradox_n which_o fox_n record_v in_o these_o word_n over_o and_o beside_o these_o 1263._o disputation_n above_o mention_v other_o disputation_n be_v hold_v in_o cambridge_n short_o after_o by_o martin_n bucer_n upon_o these_o conclusion_n follow_v first_n that_o the_o canonical_a book_n of_o scripture_n alone_o do_v sufficient_o teach_v the_o regenerate_v all_o thing_n necessary_a belonginge_v to_o salvation_n second_o there_o be_v no_o church_n on_o earth_n that_o err_v not_o as_o well_o in_o faith_n as_o in_o manner_n three_o we_o be_v so_o justify_v free_o of_o god_n that_o before_o our_o justification_n disputatio_fw-la it_o be_v sin_n and_o provoke_v god_n wrath_n against_o we_o whatsoever_o good_a work_n we_o seem_v to_o do_v then_o be_v iustify_v we_o do_v good_a work_n 30._o these_o be_v bucers_n conclusion_n which_o well_o i_o may_v call_v paradox_n for_o that_o even_o in_o the_o common_a sense_n &_o judgement_n of_o every_o mean_a capacity_n the_o falsity_n and_o absurdity_n thereof_o be_v apparent_a for_o as_o touchinge_v the_o first_o though_o we_o grant_v that_o the_o divine_a book_n of_o scripture_n if_o they_o be_v few_o than_o they_o be_v respectinge_v god_n holy_a providence_n be_v sufficient_a to_o teach_v both_o regenerate_v and_o not_o regenerate_v that_o believe_v the_o verity_n thereof_o the_o true_a way_n of_o salvation_n and_o that_o the_o say_v divine_a providence_n have_v do_v and_o will_v so_o provide_v that_o albeit_o some_o part_n of_o these_o we_o now_o have_v shall_v be_v lose_v as_o diverse_a other_o before_o have_v be_v yet_o shall_v the_o remnant_n still_o be_v sufficient_a to_o that_o purpose_n with_o such_o other_o supply_v of_o god_n assistance_n as_o he_o will_v send_v yet_o to_o say_v as_o this_o man_n do_v that_o the_o canonical_a book_n of_o scripture_n salvation_n alone_o do_v sufficient_o teach_v all_o thing_n belonginge_v to_o salvation_n if_o by_o alone_o he_o will_v exclude_v all_o other_o help_v of_o tradition_n antiquity_n testimony_n of_o the_o church_n interpretation_n of_o the_o father_n direction_n of_o general_a counsel_n and_o other_o like_a aid_n it_o be_v a_o most_o absurd_a paradox_n for_o neither_o can_v we_o know_v which_o book_n be_v to_o be_v hold_v canonical_a nor_o what_o they_o teach_v true_o &_o sincere_o nor_o what_o may_v be_v deduce_v out_o of_o they_o if_o we_o remove_v the_o former_a help_n and_o the_o case_n be_v as_o 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this_o be_v my_o body_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o do_v he_o bear_v himself_o in_o his_o own_o hand_n which_o be_v prophesy_v of_o david_n but_o fulfil_v only_o by_o christ_n in_o that_o supper_n 81._o these_o be_v the_o particularitye_n use_v by_o the_o father_n for_o declare_v what_o body_n they_o mean_v and_o can_v there_o be_v any_o more_o effectual_a speech_n than_o these_o but_o yet_o harken_v further_o thou_o must_v know_v and_o hold_v for_o most_o certain_a say_v s._n cyrill_n that_o mystagog_n this_o which_o seem_v to_o be_v bread_n be_v not_o bread_n but_o christ_n body_n though_o the_o taste_n do_v judge_v it_o bread_n and_o again_o the_o same_o father_n under_o the_o form_n or_o show_v of_o bread_n be_v give_v to_o thou_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n &_o under_o the_o form_n or_o snape_n of_o wine_n be_v give_v to_o thou_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n and_o s._n chrysostome_n to_o the_o same_o effect_n we_o must_v antioch_n not_o believe_v our_o sense_n eaysie_a 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