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A29753 Quakerisme the path-way to paganisme, or, A vieu of the Quakers religion being an examination of the theses and apologie of Robert Barclay, one of their number, published lately in Latine, to discover to the world, what that is, which they hold and owne for the only true Christian religion / by John Brown ... Brown, John, 1610?-1679.; R. M. C. 1678 (1678) Wing B5033; ESTC R10085 718,829 590

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of his grace the soul lay hold on the offered salvation and accept of the alsufficient offered Mediator we utterly deny it affirming faith to be the pure gift of God wrought by the exceeding greatness of his power according to the working of his mighty power or according to the working of the might of his power Ephes. 1 19. 2 8. And that this faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God Rom 10 17. So that we see nor how any without the Church or the hearing of the word of God and of the word of the Gospel revealing Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God can beleeve not how any w●thin the Church and who hear the sound of the Gospel daily can beleeve without the grace of God working Faith by the Operation of his Spirit and thus concurring with the word And therefore we deny Salvation to be Possible in this Quakers sense to any yea even to the Elect otherwayes we must reject the Scriptures of truth and embrace the Pelagian Errour and lay aside all prayer for the Spirit of grace to work faith and only make our supplications to Lord Free will and think to batter the wals of Freewill with meer Moral Swasion as Iesuites Arminians and Socinians with the old Pelagians imagine and sacrifice to our own net and burn incense to our own drag Free will because by it our portion is fat and our meat plenteous And so give thanks with the damned to God that hath made salvation onely Possible but to ourselves alone for making it Actual and for obtaining the crown and prize 12. Having thus in short proposed our Judgment after hearing of his Opinion we come now to examine the proofs of his Proposition which he layeth down Pag. 93. c. § 19. And first in general he saith That it is manifest from the complaints which the Spirit of God useth in the Scriptures against such as perish chideing and reproving them for rejecting Gods visitation and love and refuseing his mercy Ans. 1. His Proposition is Universal and these Complaints an● Reproofs are only Particular viz. against such as were within the Church so they can prove nothing 2. Neither will these Reproofs c. prove that such had power and ability to embrace mercy and love offered unto them without the grace of God as say Iesuites and Arminians for the Scripture tels us that God must give the new heart Ier. 31 33 34. 32 39 40. Ezech. 11 19 20. 36 26 27 Heb. 8 10. and that none cometh to the Son but whom the Father draweth Ioh. 6 44 45. and that it is God that worketh in us both to will and to do Phil. 2 13. And to gather our Power and Ability out of the Commands and measure the one by the other is the very core of Pelagianisme and Arminianisme for upon this ground did Pelagius conclude that we could keep the whole Law perfectly as this man also saith Heare Pelagius himself ad Demetriadem cited by Vossius Histor. Pelag. lib. 5. part 1. Thes. 6. Duplici ignorantia accusamus Deum Inscientiae ut videatur nescire quod fecit nescire quod iussit quasi oblitus fragilitatis humanae cujus Author ipse est imposuerit homini mandata quae ferre non possit Simulque prô-nefas adscribimus Iniquitatem Iusto Pio Crudelitatem dum aliquid impossibile praecepisse conquerimur deinde pro his damnandum esse hominen ob ea quae vitare non potuit ut quod etiam suspicari Sacrilegium est videatur Deus non tam salutem nostram quaesisse quam poenam Itaque Apostolus sciens a Domino justitiae ac majestatis nihil impossibile esse praeceptum aufert a nobis vitium murmurandi quod tunc utique nascisolet cum aut iniqua sunt quae jubentur aut jubentis minus digna persona est Quid tergiversamur incassum Nemo magis novit mensuram virium nostrarum quam qui ipsas vires nobis dedit Nec quisquam melius quantum possimus intelligit quam qui ipsam virtutem nobis posse donavit nec impossibile aliquid voluit imperare qui justus est nec damnaturus hominem fuit pro eo quod vitare non potuit qui pius est Which in short is this That to say that God should command any thing which is not in our power to do were to accuse God of Ignorance as not knowing mans power and of Iniquity Cruelty and Sacrilege commanding that which he knew we could not do and thereafter condemning us for not doing of it This Quaker may see his owne face in this glass 13. He citeth further the words of God to Cain Gen. 4 6 7. and saith that this timeous admonition and promise of pardon upon condition he did well saith that he bad a day of visitation wherein it was possible for him to be saved That it was possible for Cain through the grace of God to have done well and obtained the excellency we affirme but that he had power without this grace all this admontion cannot prove so that as is said it is pure Pelagianisme for him to adde God could not propose that condition to do well to him if he had not given him sufficient strength to do well Had Pharaoh sufficiency of strength moral to let the people of Israel go when God had hardened his heart so as he should not let them go If not how could God send Moses to him with a word of command This man told us Thesis 4. That man in his Natural state could know nothing aright and that all his Imaginations Words and Actions were evil and only evil continually Now I enquire if such a man can be said to have sufficiency of strength to know God and things divine and to do well If not then it seemeth by this mans doctrine here that God can impose no command upon such to know God and to do well We know that God giveth the heart to perceive eyes to see and eares to hear Deut. 29 4. and that the carnal minde is enmity against God for it is not subject to the Law of God neither indeed can be Rom. 8 7. And that the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him neither can he know them becauss they are spiritually discerned 1 Cor. 2 14. He citeth to the same purpose Gen. 6 3. And we deny not that the Spirit speaking after the manner of men for such expressions cannot b● understood properly of God is said to contend with men to wit by his Word and Servants whom he sendeth forth to deal with men in his name So did he thus strive long with this old world by his messengers the Patriarches particularly by Noah called a preacher of righteousness 2 Pet. 2 5. But what of this This day of Visitation saith he which he granteth to every one is such as therein the Lord is said to waite and be
Body the fulness of him that filleth all in all Ephes. 1 10 22 23. 5 23 27 32. Col. 1 18. The visible Church which is also Catholick or Universal under the Gospel not confined to one Nation as before under the Law consists of all these throughout the world that profess the true Religion 1 Cor. 1 2. 12 12 13. Psal. 2 8. Revel 7 9 Rom. 15 9 10 11 12. together with their children 1 Cor. 7 14. Act. 2 39. Ezech. 16 20 21. Rom. 11 16. Gen. 3 15. 17 7. and is the Kingdom of the Lord Iesus Christ Mat. 13 47. Esai 9 7. the house and family of God Ephes 2 19. 3.15 out of which there is no ordinary possibility of Salvation Act. 2 47. Unto this Catholick visible Church Christ hath given the Ministrie Oracles and Ordinances of God for the gathering and perfecting of the Saints in this life to the end of the world And doth by his owne Presence and Spirit according to his promise make them eff●ctual thereunto 1 Cor. 12 28. Ephes. 4 11 12 13. Mat. 28 19 20. Esai 59 21. Adde hereunto Quaest. 63. of our Larger Catechisme What are the special privileges of the Visible Church Ans. The visible Church hath the privilege of being under God's special care and government Esai 4 5 6. 1 Tim. 4 10. of being protected and preserved in all ages notwithstanding the opposition of all enemies Psal. 115. throughout Esai 31 4 5. Zech. 12 2 3 4 8 9. and of enjoying the Communion of saints the ordinary Meanes of Salvation Act. 2 39 42. Offers of grace by Christ to all the members of it in the ministrie of the Gospel testifying that whosoever believes in him shall be saved Psal. 147 19 20. Rom. 9 4. Ephes. 4 11 12. Mark 16 15 16. and excluding none that will come unto him Ioh. 6 37. 2. Here is our doctrine laid downe in few words What would this man now say He giveth us first the Etymology of the greek word that we render Church and thence tels us that an Eccl●sia or Church is nothing else but a company of such as God hath called out of this world Against which I have nothing to say only for clearing the matter I would adde That there is a company called out of the world by the grace of God power of his Spirit to worshipe him in Spirit and in Truth and this is that company which is called the Church invisible because their union with their Head and with one another is by a bond of true and saving Faith and sincere Love which are not obvious to the eyes of men As also there is a greater company of persons called out of the world to profess the Name of Jesus to worshipe Him outwardly according to his word and to owne him for their King by submitting to his Lawes Ordinances Officers by an outward profession And this is that company which is called the visible Church because both their exercise their bond of union with this King with one another is outward obvious to the eye to wit an open Profession of the true Religion outward submission to following of the ordinances institutions of Christ But as to this visible Church in his following words he seemeth to take no notice thereof for he describeth to us the Church Invisible and then tels us that without this Church there is no salvation But this is impertinently spoken for that Church is made up only of the elect And if we should speak of the Invisible Chur●h as now existing in this world we could not say that any elect belonged to it but such as were effectually called for the rest were not yet called out of the world or out of their state of nature and he told us that a church is a company of persons called out of the world To say th●n that there is no salvation out of that company that are already affectually called is neither pertinent nor truth for there are many who are not yet called whom God will in due time call and bring home and these whom he hath elected he doth bring into the visible Church where they may enjoy the ordinances which God hath appointed ●or Conversion And therefore we say that out of this visible Church there is ordinarily no salvation But all this is said by him to make way for his Church that will take in Heathens Pagans Turks and Tartars that never heard nor never shall hear a word of Jesus Christ which Church as he would delineate it to us hath not the least relation to Christ as Head and King nor any advantage of or interest in the Institutions of Jesus Christ. And what a Church this shall be let any sober Christian judge 3. But let us heare himself speak He calleth the Church a company of such as God hath called out of this world that they may walk in his light and Life One might readily suppose that this were good but hear more Vnder this notion saith he of the Church all these are comprehended of what Nation Kinde Tongue or Family they be though far removed from and strangers to these who profess Christ and Christianity in words and enjoy the Scriptures who obey the divine light and testimony of God within them so as by it they become sanctified and washen Ans. That is in short All Heathens and Pagans who have never heard of Christ or of Christianity belong to this Church of persons called out of the world to walk in God's Light and Life if they have obeyed the Light of Nature and of a Natural Conscience teaching to abstean from grosse sinnes This is the Quakers Church and the Church of persons effectually called out of the world which they mean which is nothing else but a Church of moralized Pagans A pagan-pagan-Church without the Knowledge of Christ Profession of Christ Faith in Christ Worshipe of Christ Acknowledgment of Christ Union with Christ without the Gospel of Christ and the Spirit of Christ. An● though he call this the Catholick Spirit and the secret life and vertue of Iesus Yet it is in truth nothing but Catholick nature which cannot understand the things of the Gospel This is further confirmed by what he addeth Therefore saith he they may be members of this Catholick Church who are Pagans Turks and Iewes and of every seck among Christians if they be good single hearted men though they be ignorant and superstitious Thus we see the Quakers Church is erected according to the Covenant of works and that now broken founded upon the Law of Nature directed by the Light of Nature and to it belong all civil outwardly moral persons whatever Religion they have and how superstitious soever they be Yea though they worshipe stocks and stones and the Devil for there is no exception here Reader what thinkest thou now of this Church of this Profession and of this Religion It is Catholick I confess alas
too Catholick Hence we see how false it is that he saith afterward Pag. 174. that this Church hath sometimes been Invisible though he after the Quakers manner misapply that Ier. 3 14. 1 King 19 18. For alas it hath alwayes since Adam fell been too visible 4. Next § 3. He speaketh of a particular Church and here seemeth to worde the matter better but he having already given us the Key we shall be the more able to unlock his cabinet We must s●ith he consider a Church as it signifies a certain number of faithful persons That is Persons only taught by the Light of nature though as for Religion they may be worshipers of the Devil for this particular Church needeth but be a part of the Catholick Church what more Gathered together saith he by the Spirit of God and the testimony of some of his Ministers That is say I by the Light and Law of nature and the testimony of Quakers or such Ministers as preach nothing of the Gospel nothing of Christ revealed in the Gospel nothing of the mystery of God of Christ therein revealed What more And brought unto saith he the faith of true principles and the doctrine of the Christian faith That is such principles and doctrine of Christian faith as may be among them that never heard of Christ or of Christian Faith that worshipe the work of mens hands and possibly the Devil Whose hearts saith he further united by the same love and their understanding illuminated with the same truth meet together to attend upon God adore him and unanimously give testimony against errour though they suffer therefore But 1. Do not their bodies meet together too 2. Can that love be true Christian love which may be among Pagans 3. What illumination of truth can they have who never had another teacher than a Natural Conscience within or the Law written upon the works of creation and providence 4. What attendance upon God or adoration of him without Christ known and beleeved in 5. What testimony against errour can they give who never heard of the Gospel or of Christ 6. I know that here he is giving us a description of Quakers Conventicles which really are Synagogues of Satan He tels us further that all the members of those meetings teach and instruct one another And so they are all officers all eyes c. and so monsters No organical Church Then he closeth with an untruth saying that such were all the primitive Churches gathered by the Apostles While as the Apostolick Churches consisted of persons who called upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord 1 Cor. 1 2. They were Churches in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ 1 Thes. 1 1. 2 Thes. 1 1. that is such as acknowledged and worshiped the true God and that in Jesus Christ which neither Pagans nor Jewes as such did 5. Having thus spoken of a catholick of a particular church he cometh § 4 to speak something of the qualifications of the members of both which I judge superfluous seing that was sufficiently done already Yet because his words here are of a finer-like dress let us heare him That one sayes he may be a member of the catholick church it is necessary that there be an inward call of God by his light in the heart and that the heart be fermented by his nature and Spirit so as he leave off unrighteousness and turne to righteousness and that as to the inward part of his soul he be cut off the wild olive of nature and planted in Christ b● his word inward Spirit And all this may be in them that are ignorant of the history of Christ as was proved in the 5. and 6. Thesis Ans. These are fine words to deceive the simple had he not sufficiently explained himself above in the place by himself cited and just now also given us a clear view of his Catholick Church and of its members we might readily have been deceived But according to his owne interpretation of himself and a narrow inspection of his words here We finde 1. That one can be a qualified member of the Church Catholick who hath never heard of Christ or of the Covenant of grace in Christ nor learned any more of Christianity or of the Gospel then what nature could teach and how dissonant this is from the whole Gospel let any that ever read it speak 2. All this inward call of God is by the light that is in the heart of every man by nature is this any thing else but natures dim light 3. All this fermentation to speak in the Quakers dialect is effectuate by the power of this light and this is it he meaneth by the Spirit as he hinteth here and leargly told us before 4. All the effect of this work is but an outward turning from unrighteousness which a natural wretch may do upon the information of a natural conscience This is nothing of true Sanctification 5. It is impossible that all the operation of nature can bring a man off nature and plant him in Christ. 6. The Spirit of God worketh in and with the word and this word is the preaching of the Gospel and where the Gospel is there is the history of Christ. So that where there is nothing of the history of Christ there is not the word of the Kingdom there is not the special working of the Spirit of Christ This word therefore and inward Spirit whereof he speaketh is but he word Spirit of Nature that is nature under new names the Paganish-word and Spirit 6. But what is requisite to a member of a particular christian church He answereth Pag. 175. Beside this inward work it is necessary sayes he there be an external profession and faith in Iesus Christ and these sacred truthes delivered in the Scriptures when the inward light and testimony of the Spirit shall naturally incline compel such as are subject and obedient to it to give assent and credite to the truthes delivered in the Scripture Ans. We heard before of a Catholick Church whereof all the members must needs be saved and of a Particular Church much of the same complexion with the Catholick but now we hear of a new Church called a Particular Christian church the complexion of which seemeth to differ from the former But the matter is this Christianity with him is not necessary to sal●ation th●re may be particular Churches were there is nothing of the Christian Religion Pagans that are somewhat Moral Civil belong to the catholick Church shall be saved as well as Christians But because where the word of the Gospel is come there must be some respect had to it to the word of God therefore a little more is necessary in this case though not in it self to be found in such as live in such places where the word of God is for it were a shame to say that no more were required of a man borne and living all his
day with joy and of all who would carry as true and loyal Subjects unto Him and would not be charged with the guilt of this God-darring Christ-blaspheming and Spirit-despiting generation of the prodigiously profane and arrogant Seck of Runagad-Quakers to be this day holding them up in their addresses unto God by prayer to our Lord Jesus the righteous Judge as His sworn and stated Enemies and as standing in perfect Opposition to His Kingdom and Interest and to cry unto Him night and day that He would arise and appear against them and plead His own cause in His good time for the glory of His name as also to be mourning for those sinnes that have provoked the Just and Jealous God to suffer such Hellish Locusts to arise and darken with their pestiferous blasphemies all the Glorious Comfortable Truths of the Gospel and to be manifesting the truth and sincerity of our Repentance by the native and kindly effects thereof mentioned by Paul 2 Cor. 7 11. And if it were thus with us sure I am it would not be needful to say much to move all unto a fixed abhorrence of the Errours Wayes and Practices of these Men and to a fleeing from them as from Men carrying about with them the very Credentials of Hell and the Devils Commission to go forth and pervert the right wayes of the Lord and to destroy Souls We would not need to inculcate the duties already pressed in the Scriptures in reference to such Hereticks and false Teachers to wit to beware of them to avoide them turn away from them to reject them and not to receive them in our houses or salute them lest we should be partakers of their evil deeds Mat. 7 15. Rom. 16 17. Phil. 3 2. 2 Tim. 2 5. Tit. 3 10. 2 Ioh. vers 10 11. For every one would of his own accord by a special Christian instinct flee from them more hastily then from persons having the blak botch upon the account that when these could endanger only the Body those were actively seeking to destroy the precious Soul And all who feared to fall under that sad sentence of summar Excommunication from Heaven Anathema Maranatha durst ever enter into a friendly communing with them have any followshipe with them or give them the least token of kindness and affection by word or deed yea or by a cast of the eye let be by more homely Discoursings and Conversings And it is more then probable that if this course had been followed with them at the first they had not prevailed so much as they have done to our Shame Sin and Sorrow this day O that this were yet thought upon and amended Much less would there be any necessity to use much seriousness in disswading all who had any love to their own souls from hearkning to their discourses even though assurance were had which who that know what their Principles and Designes are can expect that they should say nothing but what is consonant to Truth seing it will be easily granted that the Devil speaking in whomsoever and uttering whatsomever should not be listned unto lest afterward he cause these same persons either question or deny these same truths because held and declared by such who by their other abominable Errours declare whose Slaves and Emissaries they are beside the advantage he hath when he getteth an hearing ear to distil and insensibly drop-in soul-destroying venome suggared over with faire Speeches and plausible Insinuations Moreover were all affected with this matter as they ought to be there would not be much need of Arguments disswading from a Perusal and Reading of their Scripts and Pamphlets For this impression would prompt them to an abhorrence of such Libels against the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ against blessed Jesus of Nazareth of whom these Quakers say as their Father the Devil did before them what have we to do with thee thou Ie●us of Nazareth And against the holy Spirit of grace Is it not obvious to all that beside the advantage the Devil hath in our losse of so much precious time spent in reading of their heretical and blasphemous writings which may be one end why the Devil prompteth them to be at so much paines and charges to Write and Printe so many pernicious Scripts and distribute them so freely he hath this also that the reading of their Impertinent Reavings in and about the holy things of God and with all of their Presumptuous and ridiculously confident Assertions doth oft excite the Reader to laughter who should rather be weeping over the manifest Effrontry done to the holy and precious Truths of God and Indignity done to the Holy Lord when His name is thus taken in vaine And much more when the reading of their Blasphemous and Outragious Speaches against the Holy One of their Profane and Temerarious Abusings and Wrestings of the holy Word of Truth of their Audacious and Wicked Overturnings of the whole Gospel of the grace of God of their Subdolous and Craftie Undermining of the Fundamental points of our Religion of their Supercilious and Effronted Rejectings of and Mockings at the sacred Truths of God and of their Irreverent and Fearless Prattings about the Mysteries of Divine and Unsearchable Wisdom cannot but insensibly debauch the spirit of the Reader into at least unsutable thoughts about these great Matters if he be not more then ordinarily ballasted with the apprehension of the dreadful Majestie of that God whose Truths these are The consideration of which should me thinks coole our Curiosity and cause us even when some necessity is laid upon us which we cannot evite to read them as when called to write against them and to discover their abominable and blasphemous Assertions for preventing of further mischiefe a necessitie that lyeth not upon every one of our Common People to live nigh to God and to be oft praying for a stayed frame of heart that our spirits be not debauched by the reading of such things as have a native tendency thereunto nor place be given to one thought of these great and glorious matters as if they were but indifferent or of small moment Who can dive into the depths of Satan the mysteries of their Blasphemies and Abominations and not be in hazard of receiving hurt thereby if the Lord do not strengthen and steel the Soul Finally were we as we ought to be there would be no necessity of dehorting any from giving countenance in the least unto their Synagogues of Satan and Diabolical Conventicles where some out of curiosity or some other corrupt ends sisting themselves within the jurisdiction of Satan who there reigneth being there solemnly Served and Worshiped have been as the Quakers themselves do boast and this R. Barclay professeth himself to be a clear instance catched by the Devil and made to drink of the same Cup of Delusion with the rest and to devote themselves to the same service of the Enemy of God and of Mankinde in which these
satisfie for sins 296 5. Christ with them procureth remission in procuring grace whereby Christ is formed within 308 24. Of Iustification 1. They confound Justification with Sanctification 295 2. And say that we are justified as we are sanctified 295 3. It is ridiculous and worse with them to think to be justified by the imputation of anothers righteousness 295 4. Yea they say such a justification is irrational irreligious ridiculous and dangerous 296 5. It is an abomination to say we are justified by imputation 296 6. Yea they call it a doctrine of Devils an arme of corruption 296 7. By the light within we are justified as well as sanctified say they 297 8. All the reconciliation we have by Christ is that we are made capable of reconciliation 302 303 304 308 9. Sanctification with them is the formal cause of Justification 305 311 10. They say we are justified by the revelation of Christ in the soul 316 11. We are justified by works of grace say they 321 12. What righteousness say they Christ performed without us is not our justification nor are we saved thereby 550 13. They deny all imputation of righteousness 11 25. Of Perfection 1. They say works done by grace are perfect 322 323 2. They plead for the perfection of Saints here 325. c. 3. They hold a perfect freedom from all sin 325 4. Sanctification must be perfect because say they it is Christ himself 326 5. Yet they say this perfection may be lost 332 6. And that some may come to that hight of perfection that they cannot sinne any more 332 26. Of Perseverance 1. They assert the Apostasie of the Saints 350. c. 27. Of Infallibility 1. They plead for infallibility to Ministers and to all Christians 378 28. Of the Patriachs 1. They say the Patriarchs had no faith of the Messias to come 289 29. Of the Church 1. They take-in under the Church all who obey the light within howbeit not professours of Christ or of Christianity 361 2. Pagans Turks Jewes though both Ignorant and Superstitious are members of the Church of the saved with them if they be good single hearted men 361 3. All members of their Churches teach 362 4. Such as are ignorant of the very history of Christ may be members of the Catholick Church that is of the Church of the saved 362 5. Yet members of particular Christian Churches must give assent and credite to truths delivered in the Scriptures 362 6. Outward profession is necessary to make one a member of a particular congregated Church though not of the Catholick Church 364 7. They deny men to be Christians by birth 364 8. They say none can be a member of the Church without grace 379 9. They make the Church or Fold the same with the Shepherd 545 10. With them all Members are Officers 10 30. Of Ministers 1. They say the light received prepareth constituteth and fournisheth a Minister 365 370 2. Ministers must be called by the Spirit and know that they are led and moved by the Spirit and be sensible of the work of the Spirit and of his inward call 372 3. The power and life of the Spirit is the most necessary qualification of a Minister 378 4. Ministers must have no learning but what is taught by the Spirit 283 384 386 5. They would have Ministers learning trades whereby to live 396 6. They will not have Ministers make use of what they have learned or read in their sermons 438 7. They will not have Ministers studying their sermons 431 441 8. They account all such Ministers of the world and of the letter who are for the ordinances of Christ 545 31. Of the Ministrie 1. They say all things concerning the Ministrie are in confusion in the Christian Church 366 2. They are against the Ministerial Office 387 389 3. They deny the distinct offices and officers in the Apostles dayes 388 389 391 4. They account all the Offices Officers Fo●mes Shadowes 388 5. And to be the work of Anti-Christ the mystery of iniquity 389 6. They make the work of the Ministrie common to all 390 7. They make it free to all to preach in publick when moved by the Spirit 393 8. They deny there was any such Officers as Euangelists 393 394 9. They say Apostles Prophets c. were but distinct names 394 10. They allow women to preach publickly in the Churches 397 32. Of Ordination 33. They deny Ordination and Imposition of hands 377 33. Of Ordinances 1. They deny all external institutions in Worshipe 381 2. They do not acknowledge a precept for an ordinance where there is an Institution 491 3. They are against all ordinances calling them formes 545 4. They deny that ever God did or will reveal himself by them 545 5. They say Christ blotted them out and they must not be touched 545 6. To seek Christ in ordinances is to seek the living among the dead 545 546 34. Of the Sabbath 1. They deny the Lord's day to be the Christian Sabbath 412 2. They hold all dayes alike 412 35. Of Worship 1. They say all Worshipe must be done by inward Inspirations as to time place duration 411 2. They condemne our having a Preacher to preach in our solemne Worshipe 412 3. External actions in Worshipe need particular influences or enthusiasmes 461 4. When we move say they without the Spirit it is the uncleane part which offereth to God which he will not accept 545 36. Of the Quakers Worshipe 1. They have no preparation to their Worshipe 412 413 2. Nor do they beginne with prayer 413 3. Nor do they make any use of the Scriptures in their Worshipe 413 5. In their Worshipe they unchristian and un-man themselves 414 6. They talk of God's power transmitted from Vessel to Vessel whereby when one is affected all are affected 415 7. They lay aside all words even Scripture words in their Worshipe 415 8. Then they must Introvert unto the inward principle within them as unto the most excellent Doctor 415 9. This doctor teacheth them to cease from their own words and actions to feel the inward seed of life thereby be moved to pray preach or sing 416 10. And hence cometh a floud of refreshment that runneth over the whole company 416 11. And then they need neither Baptisme nor the Lords Supper 417 12. If one present be not introverted if the power be a little raised in the assembly he is presently laid hold on and this power warmeth him as fire warmeth a man 417 13. If any present wander in their imaginations one in whom the life is raised will feel a travelling womans paines for them and they will be pricked secretly though nothing be spoken 417 14. Yea if a stranger come to gaze mock he is so terrified at the sight that if his day of visitation be not past he becometh a convert 418 15. In the first place they must of necessity be silent
Lapide are remarkable God is said saith he to have taught the Scriptures because 1. He stood so by the writters that they did not erre from the truth in a point 2. He did excite them and suggest to them so as they should write these things rather than those c. He did so inspire them that they set down this conception rather than that c. 3. He so ordered all the conceptions and sentences and led them so as that this sentence was first that next and the other in the third place and thus they were set downe orderly one after another and this is properly to write and make a book and therefore is the Spirit of God properly the Author of the Scriptures Hence is it that the word of God in the Old Test. is tearmed in the New the Scripture or Scriptures pointing out the word as written 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 whereby we see that as in the frameing of the truths contained in the Scriptures of Prophecy or as to the matter and thing revealed and written the holy men of God had the real Inspirations of God and spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost or as the Holy Ghost spoke in them and by them they giving only a concurrence of their Rational faculties so in the very commiting of the minde of God unto writing they acted as moved by the Holy Ghost and not by any acquired Skill or Knowledg in the art of Grammer or Rhetorik being herein as a Pen in the hand of a writer and therefore ought not to be called the Secondary or proxime Authors of the Scriptures as some Papists imagine though the Lord used One to express his minde in one way and Another in another way as he thought meet and each in a way suteable to his natural Enduements as he used Esaias to express his minde in an High Loftie and Court-like stile and Amos being an herd man to express his minde in a more Mean and Low stile suteable to herd men in all consulting the universal good of the Church in all ages Whence it is manifest that not only the Matter and Things revealed whether as Truths to be Beleeved or as Lawes to be Obeyed are immediatly of God but also the very Method Expressions and Words wherein these truths were uttered which even some Papists as Gregor de Valentia and Estius Swarez and others confess And so the Whole and every Part Sentence and Word is of divine Authority and of a divine Original Whereby every one may see how sure the ground and basis of our Faith and Obedience is how rationally we act in adhereing to these Scriptures of Truth rejecting whatever is not consonant thereunto and especially all particular pretended divine Revelations which are but the meer product of mens strong Phancies and Imaginations or of Satans Workings in mens mindes and phantasies And withall we hereby see the divine Original of this Word of Prophecie which we must take heed unto as unto a light that shineth in a dark place until the day dawn and the day star arise in our hearts 2 Pet. 1 19. and must study and meditate upon day night Psal. 1. and be well acquanted with They being the Oracles of God Rom. 3 2. and the holy Scriptures which are able to make us wise unto Salvation through faith which is in Christ Iesus being profitable for Doctrine for Reproof for Correction for Instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be Perfect thorowly furnished unto all good works 2 Tim. 3 15 16 17. As also the unreasonableness of those men who would directly or indirectly bring us off this Ground and have us following the light of that Ignis Fatuus of their Imaginary and Delusory Revelations which as they arise out of a mire so they lead the Man that followeth their guide into one and leave him there 4. Before we proceed because this Man alle●dged that it was a calumnie to say that either they denied or undervalued the Scriptures what Apology will he make for his brethren who owne the Scriptures only as a declaration of the Saints conditions witness G. Fox the younger in the collection of his books P. 59. cited by Mr Hicks dial 1. P. 19. account them no better than an old almanack witness Holbrow cited by Mr Hicks P. 29. and look upon it as inck and paper See Mr Hicks Pag. 41. and say that it is dangerous for ignorant people to read them witness Fox and Hubberthorn in Truths defence P. 101 S●e Mr Hicks ibid. who also in his 2 Dial. Pag. 5. tels us that White head expresly saith in his D. P. Pag. 13. that it is idolatry to call the Bible a means and that faith grounded on the Scriptures is but an empty and implicite faith and bespeaks such persons void of the knowledge of God Christ Salvation and to be yet in their sin and that such men walk by th●ir own fancies and imaginations Christ Ascend Pag. 11. Do such expressions ●avoure of any high Esteem which they have of the Holy Scriptures if not let him see to it But moreover George Whitehead in his Apology P. 49. said that that which is spoken from the Spirit of truth in any viz. of them is of as great authority as the Scriptures yea and greater See for this Mr Hicks 1 dial P. 28. Will. Pen in his Rais. against Rail P. 40. cited by Mr Hicks 3. Dial. said That the Scriptures at most are but a kinde of declaratory and secondary Rule This man saith the same as we ●hall heare and further The Scripture is the R●le of historical faith but the light and Spirit of God can only be the Rule of saving faith and againe Pag. 55. That which is more ancient more universal and more able to informe rule and guide that must eminently be the rule but that hath been and is the Light within Therefore that hath been and ought to be the Rule of faith and practice So P. 48. Because we deny the Scriptures to be the rule of faith practice in honour to that divine light that gave them forth that we should therefore c. If this man think that we calumniat them upon this account he should tell us at least what high and honourable thoughts he and the rest have of them 5. But what if we finde him upon the matter saying little less than they though in more mod●st expressions He saith I confess in his Thesis That the Scriptures of truth did proceed from the holy Revelations of the Spirit of God and one would think this a faire acknowledgment But in his Apology Pag. 36 he tels us that they do not think that the Authority of the Scriptures doth depend on any Efficacy or Vertue placed in these Writings but ascribe it wholly unto that Spirit from whom they came What confusion and self contradiction is here To say that the Scriptures of Truth are the
Againe how could Christ and his Apostles confirme their doctrine by the Scriptures Press to a study and search of them Convince persons of errour by them and the like seing still this shift was as ready at hand for them to use as it is for the Quakers today I pray h●m to cleare me in these particulars if he can 13. But if the meaning of his Assertion be That we know only by the inward Testimo●y of the Spirit that the book of the Scriptures is indeed the word of God what will this helpe his cause Nothing at all for the Testimony of the Spirit is a true Testimony and if the Spirit testifie that that book is the Word of God that book must indeed be the Word of God and it must be the Word of God before that testimony be given to it for the Testimony doth not make it such but witnesseth it to be such and so before that Testimony of the Spirit come the will of God contained in that book must oblige us to Beleeve it and Obey it for what is the revealed will of God cannot but oblige such unto whom it is revealed But if it be said That even the will of God contained in the Scriptures cannot oblige us untill a new Revelation come to perswade us of the certainty that it is the will of God I answere Then 1. The Assertions of the God of truth and the Lawes and Commands of the Supream Lawgiver have no obleiging force upon us to Beleeve and Obey untill we be perswaded these Truths and Lawes are Divine and so the authority of the Lawes dependeth upon and is derived from the minde of the Subject and no more shall be law than he will 2. Then the Revelation of the minde of God doth not carry alongs with it its owne Evidence 3. Then the Second Revelation can as little carry alongs with it its own evidence as the First and we must have a Third to give us the perswasion of its certanety and the Third will stand in need of a Fourth and so in infinitum and hereby we shall never come to any certanty but still fluctuate notwithstanding of Revelations upon Revelations 14. He adduceth Apol. P. 36 37. Calv. Instit. Lib. 1. c. 7. s. 4 5. The French Confession of faith Art 4. The Belgick Confess Art 5. And the Confession framed at Westminster Cap. 1. S. 5. which last he cannot cite without a jibe at these worthy Divines thereby evidenceing what a Spirit acteth him But to the point I say 1. What is spoken here of the Spirit is in Opposition to the Testimony of Men or of the Church which the Romanists alleiged 2. They speak not of an Objective certanty as if before this perswasion wrought by the Spirit there was no ground to beleeve and receive these for the Scriptures of truth or as if indeed before this they had not been the Scriptures of truth but of a Subjective certanty and therefore they call it Perswasion and Assurance now this doth not create an Objective certainty but pre●upposeth it and only helpeth the soul to see that Objective certainty and rest upon it with full Conviction and Assurance 3. They speak not of any Immediat Revelation or Inspiration but of an ordinary work of the Spirit efficiently effectuating this Perswasion and Assurance 4. They expresly tell us that this work of the Spirit is by and with the word and not an Inspiration distinct and seperated from it an● by the gracious effects of the word in and upon the hearts of People which evidently demonstrate the cause to be divine and that Word which hath such Powerful Noble and Divine Effects upon the soul to to be of a divine Original flowing from that Supream Verity or Veracity and from that Supream Authority and so to be purely divine 15. Though this be enough to discover the vanity of this mans Alleigance yet I shall for the Readers satisfaction a little further cleare the matter There are in the Scriptures such innate marks and evidences of divine Majesty Power and Authority whereby as Light and Heat prove and demonstrate themselves so the Scriptures evince themselves to be of God by their Light Life Power Majesty Divine which is also manifested by these particulars mentioned in our Confession of faith to wit The Heavenliness of the matter The Efficacy of the Doctrine The Majestie of the stile The Consent of all the parts The Scope of the whole which is to give all glory to God The full Discovery it maketh of the only Way of Mans salvation The many other Incomparable Excellencies and the Intire Perfection therof These are arguments which it carryeth alongs with it whereby it doth abundantly evince it self to be the word of God as the heavens declare themselves to be of God not by any voice or testimony but by the Characters of Infinite Power so legible upon them that all that run may read The Spirit in working up the soul unto a Conviction and Perswasion that the Scriptures are the word of God doth those things First He cleareth up the characters of divinity that are in the Scriptures formerly dark to the man through prejudice or other causes and so maketh the Object plaine and manifest Next He conveyeth light into the Minde whereby the man is enabled to discerne and perceive these Grounds and Evidences which are the characters of divinity as a man when clouds are removed and his eyes are opened to see the beames of light flowing from the body of the Sun is convinced and perswaded that the Sun is arisen in our horizon Now this work of the Spirit hath its various Measures and Degrees not to mention that which is truely saving whereby the man is not only Enabled to see the forementioned grounds to a conviction but through a gracious Work of the Spirit on the whole soul is made to close with these grounds with joy and delights and to accept of the Scriptures upon these Grounds with full perswasion of soul as having this truth that these Scriptures are the word of God deeply impressed o● his spirit and sealed by the Holy Ghost So that he embraceth them as the very word of God and closeth with them with all Reverence and cheerfull Submission of soul receiving with faith the Truths there delivered and submitting to the Commands thereof heartily and cheerfully through grace Not to mention this I say which as it respecteth the matter contained in the word and the sutable improvement thereof is not of our present concernment this work of the Spirit admits of degrees whether we consider the Object or Evidences which lye in the Scripture or the Subject the ●llumination of the minde to see the cleared Evidences and Grounds for to some the Grounds and Evidences may be more clear and unquestionable than to others and some may have a larger Illumination of understanding and so a greater capacity to see the divine Original of the Scriptures than others and
freely given to us of God 1 Cor. 2 12. I assert that He is the earnest in our hearts 2 Cor. 1 22. and that beleevers are sealed with the holy Spirit of promise Ephes. 1 13. and that by him they a●e sealed unto the day of Redemption Ephes. 4 30. But all this is his peculiar work and by no shew of reason can or should be expected of a Rule as any man of ordinary judgment may see 34. But § 4. Pag. 43. He tels us that neither deaf persons nor idiots nor Infants can make use of it as a Rule and yet some of these may be saved That some of these may be saved and are I shall be loath to deny but what will this say for the Imperfection of the Scriptures Did not Paul know so much when he spok of their Perfection Or did not the Spirit of the Lord know this when he inspired David to say Psal. 19 that the Law of the Lord was perfect What I pray will his Revelations helpe the matter as to Infants and Idiots Are they capable of such Were there none such among the Jewes And yet he granted that the Law was a Primary Rule to them and consequently Perfect for he deduc●th its not being a Principal Rule from its being Imperfect and therefore when and where so ever it was a Principal Rule then and there it was also a Perfect Rule Thus the man in stricking at us woundeth himself But what in case any of these persons kill a man what would the Law of the land do unto them would it punish them I think the Law of the Lord should warrand them if they did right And shall the Law of a Land reach persons that cannot make use of it and God's Law not What use can Children or Mad men or Idiots make of the Light within As for deaf persons they have Natures light and that is part of God's Law and if they have eyes they can see many things that may instruct them though they cannot read the Bible which was never penned for their immediat use nor yet for the use of Infants and Idiots But the saying that God can and when he will doth supply the want of Scripture as of other of his Appointments Ordinances in these extraordinary cases can be no impeachment either of the Usefulness or Perfection of the Scriptures Our Quakers will account their books and exhortations useful if not necessary and yet he shall hardly perswade me that deafe Persons or infants or idiots can make any good use of them 35. To the same end he mentioneth next such as cannot read And can he demonstrate that there were none such among the Iewes and can he tell me what this derogateth from the Perfection of the Lawes of a Land and I pray him tell me if he thinks that such as cannot read and yet live where the Scriptures are or within the Church can violat any of the precepts contained in the Scriptures or not If they can shall be punished of God therefore did not the Scriptures oblige them will their not being learned and able to read prove a sufficient plea for them in the day of accounts If not then the Scriptures remaine a Rule to them and if it remaine a Rule it must remaine a Perfect Rule for all that this argument concludeth which if it conclude any thing will conclude that the Scriptures are no Rule at all to such And as for the disadvantage such are at in the knowledge of the Rule they must blame themselves the Scriptures cannot bear the blame that they will not learne to read them no more than it can bear the blame of such as can read them and will not 36. After this he ●aketh together a number of things Such as peoples Ignorance of the Original Languages Errours in Translations whereof our owne is not in his judgment free Various Readings in the Originals difference among Learned men about the Points in the hebrew and about the Original authenticque of the Old Test. Some pleading for the ●o others for the Hebrew and he might have added the Papists pleading for the Vulgar latine Version for both old and New Testament All which can plead nothing against the Rule of the Scriptures as every one may see only ●t can be hence inferred that we are at some disadvantages in understanding some things in the Scripture and by this he rather disputes against the Providence of God and his Goodness that did not prevent these evils than against the Canon it self for he cannot deny th●t the Canon was once written by men inspired of God in one language or other nor will he say ●s we shall hear shortly that what was so written was written only for the good of these Persons or Churches to whom they were especially directed Beside that these Exceptions have been sufficiently removed by Learned Men particularly and that shortly and plainly by the learned D. Owen in his book above cited Himself calleth them the Scriptures of truth and § 2. Pag 38. he both wondereth and praiseth God that they are by the good providence of God keeped so pure and uncorrupt Yea Pag. 47. § 6. he confesseth th●t what errors are creept-in through the injury of the times are but small especially in substantial matters So that notwithstanding of all which he hath said the Scriptures are able to make us wise unto salvation and what nee●s more what would he hence inferre 37. Towards the end of Pag. 44. he tels us what he would hence conclude viz That Christ who promised to be with his own and to lead them in all truth c. would never leave them to be led by a Rule obvious to so many doubts And yet we see he hath done so for we know no other Rule wh●ch Christ ha●h given whereby to point our unto us the Way and Counsel of God But he addeth t●at Christ hath therefore given his Spirit for the Principal and chief Leader And I say the same and account it a saying worthy of all acceptance The Spirit is the Principal Chiefe Only Efficient Leader Giving and implanting a new principle of life and grace in the soul Reforming Regenerating the whole man as to his Understanding Will and Affections Sending and conveying new Influences of Life Light Strength and Comfort whereby the Ignorant and blinde are made to see the way wherein they ought to walk the fainting and weary get new power and increase of Strengh so as they run and are not weary and walk and are not faint the Sick and swooning christian is made to revive and become strong in the Lord and in the power of his might the Dejected and sorrowfull Mourner is made to sing in the wayes of the Lord through the Consolations of the H. Ghost but all this is consisting with no way derogatory to the Vse Necessity Fulness Compleetness of the Scriptures as our Rule Law Here lyeth the ground of this mans
evils but what that was they knew not The proud and vaine glorious Stoicks thought that all this sinne and misery did proceed from every mans own Free Will and Choise immediatly and that there was no other cause Hence they thought that every man came into the world free of any Vice or Inclination to sin errasti sayes Seneca Epist. 94. si existimas nobiscum vitianasci supervenerunt ingesta sunt so againe ib. nulli nos vitio natura conciliat nos illa integros ac liberos genuit And yet the same man must elsewhere lib. 3. quaest c. 30. confess that vice is learned without any teacher Hence also they thought that man by his owne Ability Paines and Industrie might recove● all his losses and that nothing more was requisite but to live according to nature Senec. Epist. 41. Howbeit their very care and industrie to make lawes for bearing down of vice and setting forward of vertue was sufficient to Redargue and Confute their foolish Imagination had they but improven Natures light as they might or made use of right Reason as they pretended However we see Stoicks and Quakers are nigh of kin 2. Plato speaks more clearly concerning this Fallen and Degenerat State of Man but it is not improbable as Mr Gal● sheweth in his Court of the Gentiles part 1. lib. 3. c. 5. that ●e had help from Scriptures or Iewish Tradition when he speaketh of the ●ron age and particularly when he sayeth in his Tim●e●● Locrus fol. 103. That the cause of vitiosity is from our Parents and first Principles rather than from ourselves and elsewhere There is well nigh in every one an ingenit● evil and disease And de legib lib. 5. The greatest evil of all is implanted in many men and fixed in their souls And this state of misery he tearmes Gorgias fol. 493. a moral or spiritual death and that according to the opinion of the wise saying I have heard from the wise men that we are now dead and that the body is but our sepulchre 3. However the generality of Philosophers were utter strangers to the Rise of this contagion and the hints that Plato giveth are but very dark But when Christianity came and spread it self through the world that which the wise Men of the world were utterly ignorant of became plaine and notoure to every one for without the knowledge of this there could be no right Improvement of the Remedie offered in the Gospel and therefore the knowledge of this was a necessary part of Christianity In causa duorum hominum said August lib. de Pecc orig c. 24. quorum per unum venundati sumus sub peccato per alterum redimimur a peccatis proprie fides christian● consistitpunc So that the doctrine of original sin with the reality and manner of its ●raduction from Adam and downeward by natural Generation was unquestioned in the Christian Church until that unhappy enemie of the grace of God arose who raised up his heresie upon the ruines of the proud ●ottages of the Heathen Philosophers I mean Pelagius who to strengthen himself in his opposition and enmity to the Grace of God in Christ Iesus did take upon him the defence of Corrupt Nature and denyed Original sin saying lib. de Natura apud August lib. de Nat. and Grat. c. 9. that all sinned in Adam not because of sin attracted by birth but because of Imitation See more of this Vossij Histor Pelag. lib. 2. par 2. thes 1. And Iulianus the Pelagian as we may see there also said against Augustine that God could not impute the sin of another unto Infants and that no man is born with sin And that the children cannot be guilty until they commit some thing by their owne will How Augustine set himself against this Palagian cardinal errour his books declare And how the whole Church did appear against it is notoure Pelagius himself subdolously seemed to deny his owne opinions in a Council in Pal●stine at Diopolis condemning himself for saying That Adam was made mortal and so should have died whether he had sinned or not That Adams sin did only hurt himself and not mankinde That infants new borne are into the same condition that Adam was in before the fall And againe these and others of Pelagius errours were anathematized by the Councel of Milevum in Numidia And August tels us lib. ● de Bono persever cap. 2. that the Catholick Church defended against these Pelagians among other truths this That man is borne obnoxius to Adams sin and bound by the bond of damnation 4. This same Pelagian errour is maintained by the Socinians Socin Pral c. 4. de Christ. Serv. part 4. c. 6. Catech Racov. cap. 10. de Proph. Mun. Christ. Smale de justif disp 4. Volkel lib. 5. c. 18. Ostorod Instit. c. 33. By Episcopius against Heidanus Pag. 116. and by the Remonst Armin. Apol. cap. 7. fol. 84. So is it maintained by the Anabaptists And D. Voetius Select disp part 1. pag. 1079. tels us that the Jewes ordinarily this day deny Original sin citeing the words of one at Venice saying that the sin of Adam doth not condemne souls but only hurt the soul in so far as it bringeth in the body of Adam whence it is that it becometh more difficult to the Posterity of Adam to do good c. Mr Stephens in his defence of the doctrine of Original sin sheweth that one Mr Robert Everard and D. Ieremiah Taylor and some Examiners of the late Assemblies Confession of faith did appear against Original sin and in his preface he tels us that Anno 1654. Feb. 22. Some Brethren of the Separation did at a private dispute maintaine That all Infants were-free of Original sin To these Opposers of Original sin This Quaker in the name of the rest adjoyneth himself and so deserteth the Tru●h maintained by the Orthodox Churches and explained in their several Confessions and particularly by our Confes. of faith Chap. 6. § 2.3 4. By this sin they i. e. our first Parents fell from their Original righ●eousness and communion with God and so became dead in sin and wholly defiled in all the faculties and parts of soul and body They being the root of all Mankinde the guilt of this sin was imputed and the same death in sin and corrupted nature conveyed to all their posterity descending from them by ordinary generation From this original corruption whereby we are utterly indisposed disabled and made opposite to all good and wholly inclined to all evil do proceed all actual transgressions And thereafter § 6. Every sin both Original and Actual being a transgression of the righteous Law of God and contrary thereunto doth in its own nature bring guilt upon the sinner whereby he is bound over to the wrath of God and curse of the Law and so made subject to death with all miseries spiritual temporal and eternal And more briefly in the larger and sh●rter Catechismes to this Question Did all mankinde fall in
sinning they actually joyn themselves to it And this seed of sin is frequently in Scripture called d●ath and the body of death and that this seed and that which cometh of it is called the old man the old Adam Thus then in ●hort his judgment is that nothing of original sin neither Originans nor Originatum neither the Guilt of Adam's sin nor the Corruption of nature is imputed to or inherent in any man till he commit some actual transgression and so sin cometh not by Propagation or Traduction but by Imitation as said the Pelagians of old and as the Socinians and Anabaptists to day maintaine And the Arminians with their Episcopius deny that any thing that is truely sin is found in any of Adams Posterity before their own proper act 8. Let us now see what he sayeth in defence of this Errour and let us first take notice of what he said of Augustine that much honoured Instrument of the Lord against the errours that Satan was soweing in the Church in his time He would make us beleeve that Augustine wrote of this subject when under the dottage of old age while as it is manifest to such as read his life that what he wrote against Pelagius was written while he was in the prime of his Vigour and Understanding and his works themselvs declare the same But what will this pedantick Quaker think of that singular and self-denying wo●k of that worthy person called his Retractations wherein he reviewed all his former writings and retracted several th●ngs asserted by him in his younger and lesse studied yeers belike this man will look upon that work being written after these he now excepteth against as containing nothing but greater dottages because as he ●upposeth the longer persons live though not yet comeing near the ordinary attendants of stouping or declineing old age they grow the greater fools and consequently that himself must now be a greater fool though I see little d●ff●rence while become a Quaker than he was in his younger dayes when he was a Papist Next the man is not ashamed to judge of the very Though●s and Motives of that noble Instrument yea he is so bold as to condemne him of acting upon corrupt motives as if no●hing had moved him to write for O●iginal sin but eagerness of Z●al against Pelagius no inward conviction of the truth not of the damnableness or danger of the Pelagian he●esie in this no conviction of his duty to appear for truth Doth this Q●aker consider that hereby he is audaciously arrogating to himself Gods prerogative royal of judging the secrets of the heart Remembe●eth he that God is a Jealous God who will not give his glory to another But what grounds can he give of this his bold presumption What evidence is there of that holy Fathers writting against his own conscience I ●ay no more of this but leave this Quaker to his judge and take notice of a Third untruth when he sayeth that Augustine was the first that appeared in this controversie against the Pelagians Had he but consulted Vossius in his Historia Pelagianismi a book that sometime he citeth he should have found that whole Councils appeared against Pelagius him●elf to speak nothing of Hierome in this particular before that Augustine wrote of it particularly the first Synod at Carthage and that Synod in Palestine where Pelagius himself was present and hideing his abominations deceived the Fathers with faire words and the Council of Milevy that dealt more roundly with that heresie tels us in plaine tearmes that the Truth which they maintained was owned by the whole Catholick Church all the world over and so it was indeed and never once questioned till that unhappy instrument of Satan to whom this Quaker adjoyneth himself broached his pernicious doctrine It is true the Pelagians called this Orthodox truth a forged device of Augustines as this man doth but Augustine replyed as Vossius tels us Hist. Pelag lib. 2. part 1. Thes. 6. in these words I did not devise original sin which the Ca●holick faith beleeved of old but thou who denyest this without doubt art a new heretick and lib. 1. contra Iulian. Cap. 2. he citeth no fewer then ten or twelue of the Fathers for him and lib. de Pecc Merit Remis he saies he never heard one that owned the Scriptures speak otherwise If this Quaker had perused Vossius in the place last cited he would have seen how the ●ame truth which Augustine maintained was asserted by ancient Fathers both Greek and Latine before Augustine's dayes such as Ignatius Dionysius Areopagia Iustin Martyr Tatianus Ireneus whom Augustine himself citeth Origen Methodius Macarius Hierosol Macarius Aegyptius Athanasius Cyrillus Nazianzenus Chrysostome and others of the latine Fathers he citeth Tertullian Cyprian Arnobius Reticius Olympius Hilarius Ambrosius whom Augustine citeth Hilarius Diaconus Hieronimus whom he also citeth And moreover he should have found Pag. 179. that Augustine did not assert this truth meerly out of ze●l gainst the Pelagians as he ignorantly and boldly affirmeth for he had asserted it in h●s books de Libero Arbitrio written before Pelagianisme appeared and how in his 6. book against Iulianus the Pelagian Cap. 4. he sayes expresly that he was in that judgment from the very beginning of his conversion that he had said nothing through heat of disput which was not the ancient doctrine of the whole Church Ego sayeth he per unum hominem in mundum intrasse peccatum per peccatum mortem ita in omnes homines pertransisse in quo peccaverunt omnes ab initio conversionis meae sic tenui semper ut teneo Extant libri quos adhuc laicus re●entissimâ neâ conversi●ne conscripst et si nondum sicut postea sacris literis eruditus tamen nihil de hâc re jam nunc sentiens ubi disputandi ratio poposcerat dicens nisi quod antiquitus discit and docet omnis Ecclesia Let this Q●aker read these words and if he be not above measure effronted let him blush at his shameless boldness Let hi● read also August lib 4 ad Boni●ac c. 8. contra dua● Pelagianorum E●istolas lib. 3. de Pecc Mer. remiss cap. 6. 7. lib. 1. adv jul resp poster Pag 5.8 125. and he will see further cause of repenting of his groundless confidence and audacity if his conscience be not feared 9. We have had one great proof of this Quakers confident boldness now the●e followeth another for the only confirmation which he adduceth of his He●esie in his Thesis and that which he first speaketh to in his Apology Pag. 59. is brought from Ephes. 2 1 2 3. a passage out of which the old Fathers proved Or●ginal sin against the Pelagians as August lib. 6. c. 12. cont jul Scriptor Hypognost lib. 2. Fulgent and fourteen Bishops with him ad Petrum diaconum c. 26. Theodoret on the place also Primasius and Haimo commenting on the place and others cited by
question of this Quaker If Infants be borne pure and free of sin as he saith How can this be the peculiar prerogative of Christ to be conceived and borne without sin And in reference to this what necessity was there that he should have been conceived of the Holy Ghost and borne of a Virgine Let him answere this at his owne leasure CHAP. VII Of Reprobation 1. WE have heard this Mans Opinion concerning the State and condition of fallen Man Now his Fift and Sixt Thesis come under consideratio● wherein he giveth us an Account of the way and meanes how man is delivered from this miserable and depraved Condition But howbeit his Theses were sufficiently large Yet he toucheth moe things in his Vindication or Apology than he gave any hint of there but this is no material ground of challenge for the more full he be in explaining his minde and the moe the particulars be which he speaketh to we come to know his minde the better Though he made no mention of Reprobation in his Thesis yet he giveth us in his Apology Pag. 64. c. a large discourse thereof and beginneth his Explication of these two Theses with this matter And though he spareth no paines or paper in venting his displeasure against that which he supposeth to be the doctrine of the Reformed Churches concerning Reprobation yet I cannot finde that he giveth us any account of his owne positive Judgment of this matter be like he thought it his Wisdom to forbear that lest he should entangle himself into inextricable difficulties and howbeit his Admirers may commend him for this yet I think his dealing the less ingenuous and upright 2. It is observed that since the truth of God in the matter of Predestination began first to be questioned by Pelagius and his Followers in the dayes of Augustine there hath hardly been any Seck or Heresie wherewith the Church of Christ hath been infested that hath not stumbled upon this stumbling stone and encouraged themselves thereby to continue fixed in their Errours and not only to blaspheme in their pride and audacity the Truth of God when it had favoured more of Christian sobriety to have been silent and when they could not with their corrupt and blinded Understandings satisfyingly comprehend this truth to have stooped unto God's Revelation of the mystery rather than to have condemned it and that in such a petulant and intolerable manner as if God and his mysteries must stand at the bar of mans Judgment and either conforme to the Apprehensions and Conceptions of M●ns corrupted blinded byassed Reason or be rejected as reprobat matter not to be tolerated in Church or Common wealth so that this corrupted and blinde judge must umpire without the remedie of an appellation most peremptorily and absolutely in the sublime acts of the Great Absolute Soveraigne Jehovah And therefore it should seem less strange to us that these Quakers whose chief Excellency or rather most desperat Madness and Wickedness lyeth in this that they rake together all the filthiest brats of other Hereticks and therewith patch up a compleet Cento for their Religion and whose chiefe and only rule for faith and practice is the dim Light of Nature a light within every man which as to the great mysteries of God revealed in the Gospel is pure hellish darkness have following the Light of their corrupt guide not only Rejected but also blasphemously Inveighed against the Truth of God in this particular For vaine man would be wise though man be born like a wild asses colt 3. It is likewise observable that the proud rebellious adversaries of the Grace and Soveraignity of God that they may in their popular discourses and scriblings make the truth concerning the Absolute and Free Grace of God more odious and hatefull to such as usually measure the Incomprehensible God and all his wayes by their own carnal Imaginations and not by the sure Revelations of his will in his Word It is I say usual with such to pitch upon this point of Reprobation knowing that carnal self lovers are so blinded with prejudice at any truth that crosseth their humors and at this especially which at first look seemeth so repugnant unto the fixed delusory apprehensions of God which they satisfy themselves with all And though the Judicious know and they themselves cannot be igno●ant that what is spoken against Reprobation reflecteth upon Election these being as twines which must die and live together for take away Reprobation and Election is forthwith destroyed and grant once Election and Reprobation is thereby established without further disput by such as know what they say and whereof they affirme yet such is the Unmanly let be Unchristian yea and Unscholastick Disingenuity of these more enraged than rationally acted Adversaries that they passe over the matter of Election as finding it possibly too hote for their fingers and exaggerat the matter of Reprobation with all the strength of their Invention and keenness of their Rhetorick whereby though they contribute to the fixing of themselves in an Errour it may be contrare to the very suggestions of their more Impartial and a little more Enlightned Consciences and to the raising of scruples and prejudices in the mindes of the simple yet they but render themselves more ridiculous unto the more understanding and exercised persons in these debates And this is the whole of the present work and designe of this Quaker for not one word hath he of Election less or more but runeth out in such a rage against Reprobation that he runeth himself blinde so that he cannot see the most palpable and obvious Contradictions and Inconsistencies which himself uttereth and no man of common sense would ever speak and so doth his irrational rage drive him that to all intelligent beholders he proclameth his own brutish Ignorance Take one instance which will demonstrate both Towards the very beginning of his discourse Pag. 64. 65. he presenteth us as speaking thus That God did predestinate to everlasting damnation the most part of men without any respect had to their sin only to demonstrate the glory of his justice Now let all men of common sense judge to speak nothing of the learned who cannot but look with indignation upon this ridiculously and perversely false Representation of our meaning if ever man in his wits did or any who understood what they said could say That God did predestinate any man to damnation for the glory of his justice without any consideration had of the mans sin who seeth not what a palpable contradiction is here can God have the glory of Iustice any other way than in punishing of sin And can God intend to gloryfy his Iustice and not intend to punish sin and can he Intend to punish sin or men for sin and not consider their sin 4. This Man inveigheth much against absolute Reprobation as he calleth it but what sort of Reprobation he maintaineth he never once acquanteth us why and
this for a true declaration of the truth which we maintaine and with this open discovery of his unfaire dealing might we rest satisfied because it is to be presumed his following reasons can conclude only against this he hath laid forth as our judgment but as we have showne This is not our judgment and therefore his Ar●uments cannot touch us if they lavel at nothing but at this man of straw which he hath made for himself to shoot at Yet lest he boast as if we were not able to look his Reasons in the face we shall view them 14. He tels us that this is a new opinion there being no mention made thereof in the first four hundered yeers after Christ and that Augustin laid the first foundation thereof in his later writings out of zeal against the Pelagians and sowed some sayings which some have unhappily laid h●ld on to strengthen this errour whereby they contradict both truth and the sayings of Augustin and others Answ 1. This man would make us b●leeve that he had read all the Fathers that wrote before Augustine but we know whence he hath this for it is the old saying of Arminians But 2. This can conclude nothing against the Truth which we have seen asserted in the Scriptures of truth The Fathers in those ages had not to do with such hereticks as were the Pelagians Before that Enemy of the grace of God arose the Church was in p●ace as to these controversies and the Fathers had no occ●sion to debate such questions as Pelagius afterwards gave occasion unto Can he evince that all the Fathers before Augustine were of a contrary opinion to what we maintaine 3. Is this mans Religion grounded upon the authority of men And will he beleeve no more than what the Father 's said in the first foure ages Let him follow what cisterns he pleaseth we will satisfie ourselves with the Word as the ground of our Faith and we do look upon the Apostles as more ancient than these Fathers and take their positive assertions as of more authority than the silence of these 4. Yet Augustine de dono persever Cap. 11. citeth Ambrose Nazianzen and Cyprian as concurring with him in the ground of his doctrine of Predestination 5. as concerning Augustine what this man groundlesly suggesteth of him is the same he said before when speaking of Original sin and there we answered it 6. what contradictions are in our doctrine either unto Truth or unto Augustine he hath not showne Augustine it is true in his later dayes and after more mature deliberation and consideration of the matter occasioned by his disputs with the Pelagians did retract somethings said by himself in his younger yeers But all this is for the further Confirmation of the truth which we owne The Reader who desireth more satisfaction concerning this matter of Antiquity as to this point may consult the learned D. Twisse against Mr Hoord Sect. 1. 15. He next tels us that the Dominicans imbraced this Opinion And so he giveth us to understand that he is more pleased with the doctrine of the Iesuites But all except Pelagian-Arminians confesse that in these points the Dominicans are preferable to the Iesuites who are more downe right Enemies to the grace of God And then with a crocodile tear as it were in his eye he tels us with an Alas that Calvin éspoused this opinion and addeth that he wronged his name much hereby But with none of the orthodox I am confident for as to what this Quaker and his Arminians say in this we value it not He addeth that hereby the Christian and Protestant Religion was defamed And yet the world heard of no such thing but by Papists Iesuites Arminians who is bound to regard their scandal who are blinde leaders of the blinde must truth be foresaken because these Enemies to the grace of God like it not He confesseth that the Synod o● Dort did defend our opinion but addeth that notwithstanding it is exploded by the major part of learned and pious men in all the Churches of Protestants We know indeed that too many nowadayes are turning from the truth and imbraceing Pelagian Iesuitical and Arminian errours but that they make up the major part we deny possibly he will take in the Lutherans but we account them not Reformed Protestants 16. But Pag. 66. he tels us he would not much regaird all this if our opinion had any ground in the word And we have shown that it hath good ground there Then he saith that it is most injurious unto God If this be true it must certanly be an Errour but how is this made good It maketh saith he God the Author of sin An heavy charge if true yet this is so clear thi●keth he as that two and one make three But a Quakers confidence following a blinde guide is no strong argument to us let us hear his reason If saith he the Lord decreed that these predestinate ones should perish having no respect unto their evil actions but out of his meer good pleasure and if he also decreed long before they did exist or in any capacity did either good or evil that they should be in these sins by which secondarily they were to be led unto that end who is the first Author and cause of this our God who so willed and decreed it then which there cannot be a more necessary consequence Answ. 1. The word Predestinate being usually taken in a good sense as meaned of these Elected to glory the man vents his gall in thus misapplying the word to render the truth Odious 2. Though no consideration of sin was or could be the Meritorious Moving or Procureing cause of God's eternal decree yet when he decreed to puni●h everlastingly th● Reprobat for their sinnes he cannot be said to have no respect to sin in his decree as he here alleigeth who considereth not well what he sayeth 3. Though he decreed to punish everlastingly for sin such and such persons and none else meerly out of his owne good will and pleasure yet he cannot be said to have had no respect to sin which punishment alwayes presupposeth and answereth unto 4 If God's decrees be not before man exist or do any good or evil they cannot be Eternal but Temporal and so this man is a Socinian and the decree of God concerning every individual person must exist when the man hath done good or evil and so as many men as many decrees nay according to this man the Lord can make no decree concerning the Everlasting state of man so long as he liveth and so not only we cannot but God himself cannot say to or of any man before the point of death that he is a Reprobate or an Elect what Apprehensions these men have of God I tremble to express 5. What he meaneth by these words ut in iniquitatibus illis versarentur I know not unless their meaning be as I have expressed it And what would he then make
very account as is to be seen within two lines af●er this where he would have his Reader beleeve that we say that God doth necessarily impell men to sin which is a manifest untruth 9. In this case what becometh of God's wil intention to save all if he say These are excepted He must prove this restriction withal deny his Universality If he say the will to save all is antecedent but t●is will is consequent as do Pelag. Iesuits and Arminians he must then say that Gods will is really alterable and altered and so make God like unto mutable man neither wife enough to foresee what will be nor powerful enough to do what he willeth or effectuat what he intendeth let him and his Patrons see to this 7. To this purpose he applyeth that place already cited Rom. 1. but as we said we finde not the sin for which the Lord gave them up to a reprobat minde called a Despiseing or not receiving of the offer of the Gospel or not improving of the day of Visitation but they were other sins against the Light of Nature And if this man take the Light of Nature for the Gospel as it may be we shall finde in due time that he doth we may know what is the Quakers Gospel To prove that some may outlive this day he adduceth the instance of Esau Heb. 12 16 17. and the lamentation of Christ over Ierusalem Luk. 19 42. But not to fall upon the business yet nor examine his g●ounds which he prosecuteth more fully afterward I would only ask what this can prove concerning a day of Visitation granted to all and every per●on Heathen Barbarian that never heard of the promise of the Messiah nor of his coming in the flesh and of salvation through Him will he say that all the posterity of Esau had as faire an offer of the Inheritance as he had himself and that all the Iewes these sixteen hundered yeers have had as faire a day of Visitation as they had concerning whom Christ taketh up that lamentation ●f not where is the truth of his Proposition The Apostle tels us Rom. 11. that the natural branches were broken off because of unbeleef and cast away vers 15 17 19 20 21. c. And that was not meant only of that generation for he tels us vers 25. that blindness is happened to Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in and as yet concerning the Gospel they are enemies for the deliverer is not yet come out of Zion to turne away ungodliness from Iacob vers 26. Esai 59 20. They lye yet under their own doom which their Forefathers pronunced with their own mouth when they said His bloud be upon us and upon our children and under that wrath which came upon them to the uttermost 1 Thes. 2 v. 16. Have all their posterity had as a faire a day of Visitation or any thing like it as their Forefathers had before that Paul Barnabas said unto them Act 13 46. It was necessary that the word of God should first be spoken unto you but seing ye put it from you and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life Lo we turn to the Gentiles No I suppose not what will he then do with his false proposition 8. This is all which he giveth as an Explication of his Proposition and there are two maine things which called for some Explication and which he hath left untouched The one thing is what is the nature of this Visitation Or what is that dispensation of God towards Heathens who are not within the visible Church nor never heard a distinct sound of the Gospel or of a crucified Christ the Captaine of Salvation and the only Peace maker that can passe under the name of a day of Visitation That we might know whether it be of one and the same kinde which is granted Both to those that are within the Church and to those that are without And if not what is the difference For it would seem reasonable to say that God requireth something more of those that are within the Church in order to salvation than of such as are without it and whether faith in a crucified Christ can be required of such as never heard of Him The other thing is what is the meaning of that Salvation is possible What Possibility is this which he meaneth or in what respects is it said to be Possib●e Is his meaning that it is possible through God's grace No for then it should be possible so long as they live For if God would give them grace they should be saved His meaning then must be that God hath laid it downe at all mens door and they have all sufficient Power to accept of the Conditions or do what is requisite for salvation if they will without any c●ncurrence of divine grace or any new supply And that this is really his true meaning we shall see when we come to examine his grounds 9. As for the truth which we maintaine it is to be seen in our Confession of faith Chap. 1. § 1. Although the light of Nature and the works of Creation and Providence do so far manifest the Goodness Wisdom and Power of God as to leave men unexcusable Rom. 2 14 15. and 1 19 20 Psal. 19 1 2 3. Rom. 1 22. with Chap 2 1. yet they are not sufficient to give that knowledge of God and of his Will which is necessary unto Salvation 1 Cor. 1 11. 2 13 14. therefore it pleased the Lord at sundry times and in diverse manners to reveal himself and to declare that his will unto his Church Heb. 1 1. and afterwards for the better preserving and propagating of the Truth and for the more sure establishment and comfort of the Church against the Corruption of the flesh and the malice of Satan and of the world to commit the sa●●e wholly unto writing Prov. 22 19 20.21 Luk. 1 2 4. Rom. 15 4. Mat. 4 vers 4 7 10. Esai 8 v. 19 22. which maketh the holy Scripture to be most necessary 1 Tim. 3 15. those former wayes of God's revealing his Will unto his people being now ceased Heb. 1 1 2. 2 Pet. 2 19. And in the larger Catechisme quaest 60. Can they who have never heard the Gospel and so know not Iesus Christ nor believe in him be saved by their living according to the light of nature Ans. They who have never heard the Gospel Rom. 10 14. know not Iesus Christ 2 Thes 1 8 9. Ephes. 2 12. Ioh. 1 vers 10 11 12. and beleeve not in Him cannot be saved Ioh. 8 24. Mark 16 16. be they never so diligent to frame their lives according to the light of Nature 1 Cor. 1 20 24. or the Law of that Religion which they profess Ioh. 4 vers 22. Rom. 9 31 32. Phil. 3 4 9. Neither is there salvation in any other but in Christ alone Act. 4 12. who is the Saviour only of his
that this our doctrine is contradicted by daily experience Wherein In that preachers saith he exhort many to beleeve and lay hold upon salvation who cannot if they be reprobate Ans. But do Ministers know certainly who are reprobate What if their designe be most to save the elect But then sayes he their preaching is vaine for these shall certainly be saved Ans. Where is it said that they ●hall certainly be saved without the meanes Knoweth he not that by the foolishness of preaching God saveth them tha● beleeve Knoweth he not that God hath appointed the meanes to keep his Elect beleevers constant and stedfast in the faith He tels us that Vossius Hist Pelag lib. 6 p. 587. saith that this was the common opinion of the ancients Answ. But I finde the contrare manif●stly made out by D Owen in his preface to his book of Perseverance from Clemens Epistle to th● Corinthians a piece of undoubted antiquity fro● Ignatius from Tertullian from Macarius Aegyptius from Chrys●stome and from the Opposers of the Pelagians and Semipelagians such as Prosper and chiefly Augustine with whom accorded Hilary and Fulgentius So from Gregory from Bradwardine yea and from Thomas Aquinas These h● may be pleased to consider at his leasure 17. But Pag. 168. § 3. He replieth to that answere given to 1 Tim. 1 19. Saying that it must be true faith that is there meaned As if we said that the doctrine of faith were a false faith But he supposeth that we meaned an hypocritical faith that was not in truth but in shew only And yet he must know that a Temporary faith is not properly a false faith but is true in its kinde It is true it is not a saving faith and yet is distinguished from a false faith But the faith we said that was there spoken of is the doctrine of Faith which they should not have put away but adhered to and preached faithfully with all good conscience But when it is said they put away a good conscience saith he it is supposed they had a good conscience which cannot be without true faith Ans. Paul saith Act. 23 1. that he had lived in all good conscience before God unto that day taking in as is very probable even the time that he was a pharisee and so without true faith in Christ see Phil. 3 6. 2. The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 there used doth not signifie alwayes a putting away what we have as we see Act. 7 27 39. 13 46. And so it only importeth that they did not serve Christ in the Gospel in truth and in sincerity but for filthy luc●e or such like corrupt ends and hence it came to passe that at length they cast the profession of the truth over board and would follow that doctrine no more 18. To our proofs from Phil. 1 6. 1 Pet. 1 5. he Answereth These can no otherwayes be understood than in so far as we fulfil the condition upon which salvation is offered Ans. But these texts speake expresly of God's beginning and perfecting the condition the good work and keeping by faith So that the man knoweth not what he sayes when he thinks this answere can be made use of here 19. He cometh next Pag. 169. § 4 to speak of the second thing as●erted in his Thesis to wit That there is such a measure of grace attainable from which there is no Apostasie and in this he leaveth his friends the Socinians Arminians and thinketh hereby to answere all the arguments whereby Perseverance is proved but in this his folly is too manifest for all our arguments conclude for such as have the least measure of true and saving grace and upon the other hand answere all that is brought against Perseverance by alleiging that these cannot reach such as are attained to this highest degree But as this will not satisfie the Adversaries so it is but loose and groundless work having no foundation in the word And if he will interpret that Heb. 6 4 5 6. of true and saving grace he will finde difficulty to limite it to beginners not to meane it especially of such as have attained unto an higher measure of perfection than ordinary 20. But Pag. 170. from that place 1 Cor. 9 vers 27. he saith that Paul supposeth here a possibility that he might become a reprobate Whereby he destroyeth what he is about to assert for he cannot with any colour of reason deny that Paul was advanced above many arrived at as high a degree of perfection as any Quaker is capable of seing himself saith that Paul was come to that state● from which he knew he could not fall and the mater is clear Rom. 8 38. 2 Tim. 1 12. 4 7 8. But he mistaketh the import of that word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 1 Cor. 9 27. which only signifieth not approven or not accepted of in the service he was imployed about as the whole scope an● context cleareth and though it were taken in his worst sense what can he hence inferre will the carefull use of meanes to provent such a thing prove that such a thing was possible not only in it self but also in respect of God The Lord's determination and purpose kniteth the ends with the meanes secureth the end together with the meanes leading thereto But it is an ordinary mistake with Arminians to think that if the end be secured meanes are needless Was not the life of Christ secured until the time appointed did he for all that neglect the use of meanes for his life or did he hearken to Satan tempting him to cast himself headlong from the pinacle of the temple did Hezekiah neglect to eat drink c. notwithstanding of the full assurance he had of living fifteen years longer 21. What he saith afterward of assurance which some attaine unto though I judge it not clearly proven from Revel 3 12. that place being meant rather of what the Lord will give hereafter in glory Yet I assent unto the truth shall recommend the Reader unto Chap. 18 of our Confess of Faith where he shall finde the matter fully explained confirmed so that he needeth not take any notice of what this Quaker saith on that head CHAP. XVI Of the Church 1 WE proceed unto his Tenth thesis wherein he treateth of the Ministrie But in his Apology P. 172. c. he thinketh good to speak something of the Church of which he made no mention in his Thesis but did presuppose it What we hold concerning the Church is distinctly set down in our Confess Chap. 25 Where more of the clear truth may be in a few words seen than readily will be found in several Treatises written against Papists upon that head there it is said The Catholick or Universal Church which is Invisible consists of the whole number of the Elect that have been are or shall be gathered into one under Christ the head thereof and is the Spouse the
dayes where the word of God and the Gospel is than of a pagan that never heard of Christ. But now what is required An External profession c. This is good enough to declare that the Quakers Churches are not Christian for they beleeve not the holy truthes set downe in the Scriptures because they oppose and contradict them Nor do they beleeve in or make profession of Jesus Christ revealed in the N. Testament because they oppose him and all his Institutions But how is this faith wrought is it by the Spirit of God No the inward light alone doth it that is it is a faith of Christ of the truth of the Scriptures that nature can sweetly naturally incline yea compel unto But this can reach no further than the truths that corrupt nature can teach and what affinity these have with the Gospel of the grace of God let Christians judge And thus we have run round and are againe where we begane 7. He inferreth from what he hath said That the inward work of holiness and laying aside of iniquity is every way necessary to constitute a member of the Church of Christ. Yet it is but such a work of holiness that nature can produce effectuat We acknowledge true holiness wrought by the Spirit of God subdueing overcoming nature to be necessary in all that are members of the Invisible Church but not necessary to constitute one a member of the visible Church general or particular What more That outward profession is necessary to make one a member of a particular congregated church though not of the catholick church Then the particular Church is not an homogeneal part of the Catholick but of a different complexion Then members of the Catholick church cannot be members of a particular Church without some more be added It seemeth then these particular Churches are Visible Churches but the Catholick is invisible Yet saith he this external profession is every way necessary where God giveth opportunity to know it and the outward testimony is to be beleeved when and where it is revealed Then it is no way necessary otherwise and so without any Knowledge Revelation or Acknowledgement or Profession of the Gospel one may be a member of the Catholick saved Church are these things consonant to Scripture 8. Next § 5. He tels us that the devil working in the mystery of iniquity taught his followers to say That none how holy so ever was a member of the church of Christ without an outward profession and unless he were initiated with some ceremonies Ans. And what can it be else but the devil working in the mystery of iniquity that taught him to say tha● Pagans Turks Jewes who are enemies to the true Christian Religion can be members of the Catholick church without either Profession or Knowledge of Christ 2. Himself said that this profession was necessary to particular Christian Churches And are not these Churches of Christ 3. for the external ceremonies used in the Church of Rome we owne them not but such as Christ hath instituted in his word if the Spirit within him be not contrary to the Spirit speaking in the Scriptures he also should owne And againe saith he That if one have an outward profession though inwardly ungodly and irregenerate he may be a member of the true Church of Christ Ans. That such an one may be a member of the Church Visible we owne it as the truth of God and when he shall be pleased to forme a disput upon this head shall make it good And at best he is but mistaken when he addeth that this is to put light for darkness as if God did more regard words than works For the Lord calleth for both Rom 10 9 10. He is also mistaken when he sayes that Antichrist did build his structure upon this foundation For he applieth all the privileges of the Invisible Church unto his visible Synagogue of Satan distinguisheth not betwixt the Visible the Invisible Church as neither doth this Quaker non-churcheth all who are not of his combination and how neare this Quaker approacheth to him in this he can judge if he will 9. What he speaketh of the degenerating of the primitive churches is true but when among these corruptions he reckoneth Pag. 176. this as one that men became Christians that is members of the visible church by birth he is far out for if that be a corruption the Apostles first primitive Church were guilty thereof for we owne it from them Peter told the Jews that the promise was to them and to their children Act. 2 39. And Paul told the Corinthians 1 Cor. ● 14. that the children of beleevers were holy and under the Law children by birth enjoyed this privilege this privilege was never taken away from them under the Gospel What he saith of the reformed churches though there be too much truth in it yet it ill becometh him his party to upbraid them seing all their designe as hath been often observed is to make them us all mere pagan churches And instead of true holiness to presse upon us Natural Dead Antievangelick Morality CHAP. XVII Of a Ministerial call 1. OUr Quaker having thus dispatched what he had to say of the Church cometh to speak to what he had mentioned in his Thesis concerning the Ministery where we finde several things spoken unto which we shall examine severally In the beginning of his 10. Thesis he tels us That as by this gift grace and light all the true knowledge of God in spiritual things is received and revealed so by the same as it is manifested and received in the heart by its power and efficacy every true Minister of the Gospel is constituted prepared and furnished for the work of the ministry And by this moving leading and drawing must he be led commanded in his misterial work as to places where the persons to which and times when he is to be imployed That which here we are to take notice of is that which constituteth a Minister and with this Quaker the only thing that maketh one a Minister is Inward Light which he calleth also grace and a gift as it is received in its power in the heart This is all his call unto the weighty work of the Ministrie What this Light Gift and Grace is we discovered above sufficiently and after examination of all that he said of it found it to be nothing else but the dim Light and Law of Nature or the Relicques of that which once was glorious and illustrious while Adam stood because nothing else can be supposed now common to all Adam's sones or all that are Rational Creatures whether borne without or within the Church whether Pagans Barbarians Cannibals Shythians or what you will And this he makes both the Preacher or Revealer of Spiritual things and the Meane by which this Revelation is received for by it all the true knowledge of God in Spiritual
be common to all of what use can a special Office be for this work And what necessity were there for a call authorizing some to the doing of the work of that Office Eightly That Officers and Church members as such are different and to be distinguished so that all Church members are not Church Officers This is clear from the preceeding Ninthly That a Call differeth from Gifts and Qualifications for a call to an office if it be right such as God will approve who sendeth not a message by the hand of a fool doth presuppose that the person called is fitted qualified and that this qualification was not a sufficient ground for him to take upon him the office or to performe the proper work of the office for if his qualification had sufficiently warranted him for the office for the work the call had been useless wholly superfluous when then our Quaker speaketh of a Call he must mean a proper real and formal call not a false imaginary supposed one nay nor yet what may be said to be a virtual call Tenthly When he speaks thus of a Call to the Office of a Pastor or Doctor he must needs suppose that there are real and sure Rules Grounds and Evidences of a lawful call laid down in the word Whereby a true call may be distinguished from a false supposititious call that the solution of this question what is a right and what is a wrong call doth not depend upon our imaginations and phancies but must be had in the word And therefore if he would describe or lay forth unto us what is a right call unto the office of a Pastor in the Church he must not think it enough to tell us his dreames and suppositions but he must give us grounds from the word whereupon we must rest That by the question which he here moveth he must presuppose all these Ten particulars as unquestionable truths is from what is said I judge most clear and if so how he shall in several of these agree with other Quakers I leave it with himself to judge and how as to some of them at least he shall agree with himself in what followeth we may have occasion to remarke as we go on 4. When he speaketh of a Call to a Ministerial Office we may observe that he is very indistinct confused holding himself in the general that he may the more easily inveigle his Reader and leave the matter still in the dark He cannot but know that our Divines make mention of several sorts of calling to the Ministrie not to mention that which commonly in our language goeth for a call and is performed by the people inviteing makeing choise of and submitting to the Ministerie of such or such a person which is more prop●rly called Election and is contradistinct from that which is called Ordination but to speak to that which is otherwise called mission or missio potestativa that is that which formally impowereth the person called to performe the Work belonging to that Office and legally authorizeth him thereunto for Paul Gal. 1 1. saying of himself that he was an Apostle not of m●n nor by man but by Iesus Christ God the Father giveth ground to distinguish of calls not to mention that which is imported by the first expression of men which is commonly taken for an unlawful call that is meerly of man of themselves or others such as the false Prophets had of old and the false Apostles in the primitive times to wit That there is one call Immediat by God and Christ without the interveening of Man There is another Mediat which though also of God yet it is by the Intervention of some deed of man so is said to be by man The first is attributed unto the Apostles and some others whom Christ immediatly sent forth adjoyning that call of Matthias Act. 1. which as to the person on whom the lot fell was immediatly from God The other unto other Church officers appointed to their office by them so forth in succeding generations according to the way method set down in the word The Mediat call is that which we are now to enquire after to look for seing the Immediat call is ceased with these extraordinary persons who were called by it were with alendued with extraordinary gifts as we see Mat. 10 1. 2 Cor. 12 12. or had some other extraordinary thing in their mission which did abundantly evince it to be immediatly divine We may note further That there is a Mediat call which may be called Singular Rare or not very ordinary as when a Church is in erecting not yet constituted all things are out of order so that through necessity many or several things requisite in an orderly call must be passed by dispensed with And there is a Mediat call which is Ordinary is usually to be followed according to the rules set downe in the word Againe it may be noted that there is an Outward call an Inward call The Outward call or mission is that which is done by men according to the appointment of Christ after examination tryal of the person separating him setting him apart with solemne prayer imposition of hands for the ministrie that is a committing of the work unto faithful men an appointing of them to the work of the ministrie The Inward call is the Lords signification of his minde will inwardly to the mans self of his calling appointing him to the Ministrie not only endueing him with gifts qualifications requisite but also powerfully sweetly inclineing his minde determining his will to a willing susception of this Imployment for holy pure ends by other passages of his providence manifestly signifying that to be his minde that the man shall serve him in the work of the Ministrie These considerations are considerable in this case others might be mentioned but our Quaker loving confusion walketh in the dark and tels us not what call he meaneth Nor whether he meaneth all sorts of calling or only one kind and if one he tels us not what that one is 5. Let us see if his answere will help us to understand the question His answere is this He ought to be instructed by the inward power and vertue of the Spirit of God in his heart A suteable answere for such a question that is a confused answere to an indistinct question He should have told us what is the nature of a Pastors Call his answere is concerning a qualification Afterward he speaketh of qualifications how I pray shall he difference this from what he handleth there Next I would enquire concerning the meaning of this answere whether he thinketh that all who are instructed thus are called to be Pastors or only that this is a qualification requisite in Pastors if the first be his meaning he destroyeth the distinction betwixt Officers and Church
members for then all Church-members must be Officers seing with him all Church members must be thus qualified If the last be his meaning Whether thinks he this qualification essential or not that is so necessary that one that wanteth it cannot be accounted a Pastor neither before God nor before men neither in foro poli nor in foro soli Againe I would enquire what he meaneth by this qualification if we interprete it by his former doctrine why we may not Yea must not do so I know not this will be a good qualification for a Pagan-preacher but no qualification for a Gospel-minister for it is nothing else than the power efficacy of Natures Light of a Natural Conscience informing enlightning concerning duties required by the Law of nature it hath no affinity with the sanctifying Spirit of Christ promised in the New covenant bestowed upon the elect and chosen vessels of mercy and principling the beleever to new obedience Howbeit this might suffice for an answere Yet I shall say more to clear the matter unto the Reader I confess holiness is required of Gospel ministers The Apostle tels us Tit. 1 8. that he must be a lover of good men or of good things as it is in the margine sober just holy temperate And he must be blameless Tit. 1 7. 1 Tim. 3 2. vigilant sober and of good behaviour ibid And therefore all who are to be imployed in the examination tryal of ministers should be careful in the searching after this as well as in the tryal of their gifts and other qualifications and when clear and manifest evidences appear of their hatred of good things and of the godly of their insobriety injustice unholiness intemperance want of vigilancy and of their evil behaviour they ought to be laid aside from that holy function as well as when their want of gifts of other requisite qualifications clearly appeareth Yea if there be not some positive probable evidences of this love and of seriousness in the maters of God giving faire probable ground of concluding them to be faithful men they ought not to commit the word unto them See all this fully cleared and confirmed by worthy and learned Mr Durham in his exposition of the Revelation Pag. 198. c. Yet because grace the saving workings of the Spirit are latent hid in the heart there is no outward signe evidence thereof whereby others can certainly or infallibly discerne and judge of the same in all so hid that the man in whom it is is more privie to his owne spirit heart than others can be will not alwayes be in case to discerne the same I dar not say that the reall being of grace is such a qualification as that the want thereof shall render the man no minister and all his performances null before God or man though the person being a real stranger to grace can expect no acceptance of God through Jesus Christ for what he doth Christ's imploying of Iudas in the ministry will sufficiently verify this and I need say no more See Mr Durham in the place cited 6. What addeth he For saith he seing true knowledge in things spiritual is received by this gift and grace he that is purified and sanctified by the same is at length also called by it and moved to ministrate to others and is made capable of showing to others what by real experience he hath himself found 2 Cor. 5 11. And his words and ministry proceeding from inward power and vertue penetrat into the hearts of the hearers and obtaine their approbation and subjection Ans. 1. This gift and grace being but natural and Pelagian as was shown above can never give true knowledge in things spiritual saving and evangelick 2. Nor can it ever purifie and sanctifie a man according to the Gospel whatever it may do as to outward civility and morality 3. Qualifications are no call 4. Then it seemes there is no Outward call requisite and so this man joyneth with Socinians and Arminians laying aside all outward call by men as not necessary in the Church of God and saying that all who understand the truth of the Gospel and are able to Instruct others may and have a right to teach See Smalcius Pag. 379. though Pag. 377. he confesseth that this outward call is decent and comely in a constitute Church which this man doth no where acknowledge See also Apol. Remonstr Cap. 21. and Episcop disput 26. privat Thes. 4. 5. 5. Every motion to tell others what we know in the things of God is not a call to the Work and Office of the Ministry See Psal. 66 16. privat persons in their private capacities may and ought to seek to promove the edification of others 1 Pet. 4 10 11. 6. Is this telling of what they have found in their owne experience the whole work of the Ministrie Or is this the preaching of the Gospel The divideing of the word of truth 2 Tim. 2 15. Is this speaking exhorting and rebuking with all authority Tit. 2 15 Is this be seaching as Ambassadours in the name of God and in Christ's stead 2 Cor. 5 19 20 Is this that which Paul layeth upon Timothie 2 Tim. 4 1 2. I charge thee before God and the Lord Iesus Christ who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his Kingdom Preach the word be instant in season out of season reprove rebuke exhort with all long-suffering and doctrine Or that which we ●inde 1 Tim. 4 13 14 15 16. Give attendance to reading to exhortation to doctrine Neglect not the gift that is in thee which was given thee by prophecy with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery Meditate upon these things give thy self wholly to them take heed unto thy self and unto the doctrine continue in them For in doing this thou shalt both save thy self and them that hear thee But I should have remembered that these men are against Preaching 7. Some may think that by this gift and grace which he mentioneth he can mean at most nothing but what the Papists call gratia gratis data and which is different from gratia gratum faciens but I see no ground to judge him so orthodox 7. He goeth about to prove that this qualification is absolutely necessary and his first argument is thus That which is necessary to make a man Christian is much more necessary to make one a Minister of Christianity But this inward call power vertue of the Spirit is necessary to make a man a Christian. Therefore c. Ans. This argument is easily answered by a distinction thus That which is necessary to make a man a Real Upright and Sincere Christian or true member of the Invisible Church is also necessary to make a man a sincere and upright Minister before God and approven of him in what he doth but is not simply and absolutely necessary to make one a Minister before
men who cannot certainly know this nor walk by an infallible rule in judging of this That which is necessary to make a man a member of the Visible Church a professing Christian that I grant is also necessary to make one a Minister both before God and men for men can judge hereof and have a certain and fixed rule whereby to judge of this profession whether it be true or not though not to judge whether it be sincere or not 2. That the inward work of the Spirit of grace is necessary to make one a true and gracious Christian or member of the Invisible Church is true but this is not requisite to make one a member of the visible Church And he would know that Ministers are set in the visible Church and are to covert such as are not yet members of the Invisible Church and this sheweth the inconsequence of his argument 3. The Inward Power and Vertue of the Spirit which he must meane can make a no man a Professour let be a Christian in truth and reality for it may be where there is no knowledg or hearing of Christ of the Gospel of the Covenant of grace or of any such thing even in an Heathen and Pagan who is yet without as such are called 1 Cor. 5 12 13. 1 Tim. 3 7. and is without Christ being an alien from the Commonwealth of Israel and a stranger from the Covenants of promise having no hope and without God in the world Ephes. 2 12. 8. His next argument is this All the Ministers of the N. Test. are Ministers of the Spirit and not of the letter 2 Cor. 3 6. And therefore such must be called by the Spirit and must know that he is led and moved by the Spirit and be sensible of the work of the Spirit and of his inward vocation Ans. 1. It is most true that Ministers of the N. T. are Ministers of the Spirit opposed to such as cryed up the Law and preached it as separated from Christ as the Jewes commonly did as our Quakers Pagan-preachers do must do according to their principles for they know no Gospel but are sworne enemies to it and plaine subverters of it and all the Ordinances thereof and are worse then the allegorical teachers of whom Beza maketh mention on 2 Cor. 3 6. 2. They may be said to be called by the Spirit who are gifted with the gifts of the Spirit fitting for preaching of the Gospel such as the word of Wisdom and the word of Knowledge 1 Cor. 12 vers 4 7 8 11. Whereby they are apt to teach 1 Tim. 3 2. and fit to take care of the Church vers 5. And those gifts in themselves considered are different from true and saving grace and yet come from the Spirit and are given to profite withall and so must be laid out to edification according to the way prescribed in the Gospel 3. What meaneth he by this must be called by the Spirit Is this an inward Inspiration or Enthusiasme saying to the man he must goe preach We reject all such phancies which he and other phanatick persons dream of and lean unto and account them plaine delusions of Satan which the very doctrine they deliver putteth beyond all question Mat. 24 24. 2 Thes. 2 9. Deut. 13 1. Gal. 1 8 9. Let him shew if he can any true ground warranting us to look for such immediat calls Is there a promise for this Or a command to expect it 4. His last words null his former argument and position for there he required only that they have the inward working of the Spirit but here he requireth more to wit that they know that they have it and are led and moved by the Spirit and are sensible of his work in them Or he must say that none can have grace but he must also know and feel that he hath it And consequently that such as feel not this to their owne satisfaction must peremptorily conclude that they have it not a dangerous position and untrue 9. A third argum followeth Pag. 179. If saith he the testimony of the Spirit be not essential and necessary to a Minister the Gospel Ministrie should be postponed to the legal for there the people knew who were officers and beside these ordinary there were extraordinary ones called by the immediat testimony of the Spirit But now we are vncertain and must have Pastors without all certain assent of Gods will Ans. 1. Then the thing he meaneth by a Call is a testimony of the Spirit such as the Prophets of old had or at least such as may be plaine and notoure not only to themselves who have it but to all so as they need no more doubt of it than the Jewes needed to doubt of the Priests and of the Levites or at least of the extraordinary Prophets that God sent among them And thinks he that this is had of his Quaker-Teachers and Pagan-Preachers No sure their speach and their erroneous doctrine publickly declareth that the testimony which they have is the testimony of a lying Spirit and of a Spirit of delusion that can easily deceive the possessors 2. Thinks he that there is no way now to know who are the lawfully called Servants of God He was pleased while speaking of the Scriptures to affirme some such thing that he might thereby implead their Perfection but we manifested his folly in that attempt there See Chap. IV § 31. 3 Will he tell us what that certaine assent of Gods will or this Testimony of the Spirit is whereby every one may know who is truely called of God who not Doth the Spirit when he calleth one to this work speak to the senses of all beholders and witness also to them that such an one is indeed called of the Spirit Is such a Testimony of the Spirit which every one can hear necessary to make a Christian Is this the inward Power and Vertue of the Spirit that he talked of 10. His last Arg. is from Christ's word 's Ioh. 10. They are thieves and robbers that c●me not in by the door Which is very true But how will he prove that all such as want this testimony and this call which he speaketh of are such as Christ there meaneth They that enter by the way which Christ hath appointed come in by the door which he hath set open for them to enter by and have his warrand and approbation though they want this which he pretendeth to 11. He tels his Reader § 8. That against his doctrine we Object the Succession of the Church as sufficient And upon this his mistake he runneth out in many words to no purpose That Christ sent his Apostles immediatly is certain and undeniable That these Apostles ordained other ordinary ministers is unquestionable Act. 14 23. That they laid injunctions on these whom they had ordained to commit the same to faithful men is clear 2 Tim. 2 2. Tit. 1 5. 1 Tim. 3 1 15. and 5 21
any in Courses Opposite unto and Reflecting upon the holy Institutions of Christ because he is the Spirit of Chirst and sent by him from the Father and was to testifie of him Ioh. 15 26 and not to counterwork Him and trample upon his Appointments It is also said that he would glorifie Christ and receive of His and shew it unto the disciples Ioh. 16 14. But the Spirit that leadeth them is wholly set in them to dishonour and cry down Christ and to reject all his Ordinances not one excepted as we have seen already and shall see more Nay this evil Spirit that acteth them destroyeth and casteth away these very Orders and Ordinances which the Scripture tels us the true Spirit of God hath appointed and established and is such an enemy to all Gospel Order that it cryeth up only Paganish and develish Confusion 2. What he saith of the Papal and Prelatical Hierarchy I have nothing to do with but what can he say against that Order which Presbyterians maintaine to be Instituted by Christ by Officers of divine appointment and the Courts Judicatories which they owne Superior Inferior Whatever contention be among these concerning the Order to be observed in the house of God there is no warrand for him his party to cast away all Order bring in the confusion of Babel instead of that beautiful and edifying Order which Christ the Supream Head and King of the Church hath wisely for his owne glory for promoving the good edification of his Subjects Appointed signally Blessed 3. But sayes he Pag. 204. speaking of his party We say the substance is to be enquired after and the Vertue Life and Spirit who is one in all these different names and offices mentioned in the Scriptures 1 Cor. 12 4 Ephes. 4. Answ. We say also the Substance is to be enquired after and the Spirit 's Blessing Power Efficacy and Presence to be sought but so as the Ordinances and holy Appointments of the Spirit be religiously Observed for the Spirit of God hath not taught us to see any repugnancy here whatever that evil Spirit which acteth and leadeth them doth Sure had there been any such Repugnancy or Inconsistency as these Fanaticks dream the Spirit had never appointed these Orders nor instituted these Ordinances and Officers nor prescribed Rules to Regulate these Officers in the right and edifying manner of the discharge of their duty and Administrating the appointed Ordinances Himself cannot but confess that the Spirit did appoint Officers in the house of God the Scriptures by him cited are so cleare and plaine to which others might be added And I would faine know of him why this was done was this to divert the primitive Church from enquireing after the Substance and after the Vertue Life and Spirit of these ordinances He dar not say this The Spirit then that acteth them cannot be the same with that Spirit that ordered matters in the Primitive Church but an enemie thereunto and consequently the Spirit of the Devil directly Opposeing and Counter working the Spirit of God let him think on this for it will be found so 4. He goeth on to tell us That it was never the minde of Christ and his Apostles that Christians should establish the shadow and forme of these Officers without the power efficacy and Spirit of Christ. Answ. The Power Efficacy and Spirit of Christ is not in Christians power to Establish the Spirit bloweth where he listeth I understand not that Spirit which falleth under the establishment of men and of these Quakers It is not the Spirit of God that is so under their power and at their devotion and can be established by them as they please 2. We plead not for Shadowes and Formes but yet we owne the Ordinances and desire religiously to observe such as Christ hath appointed to remaine and continue for the perfecting of the Saints for the work of the ministry for the edifying of the body of Christ till we all come in the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ Ephes. 4 vers 11 12 13. even to the end of the world Mat. 28 20. especially seing we have no ground to think that all these Offices and Officers were appointed only for that time and age the work being of the same necessity now as then and no restriction or limitation to that instant being declared It is true there was a special piece of work called for then to wit the founding and setling of Gospel Churches and of Gospel Order Lawes and Ordinances to which extraordinary Officers were called qualified and impowered which is not now necessary the foundation being once laid there is no more required but a continual building upon that foundation to which ordinary Officers and a standing ordinary Ministrie is sufficient and necessary that the Ordinances of perpetual use may be administred according to Christs appointment for the constant edification of the Church And against this these Quakers set themselves with all their might that when the Church is denuded of her Officers and Watchers she may become a fitter prey for these grievous wolves who now enter in not spareing the flock speak perverse things to draw away disciples after them 5. This is saith he the work of Antichrist the mystery of iniquity erected in the dark night of Apostasie Answ. Then Christ and his Apostles wrou●ht the work of Antichrist and the Mysterie of iniquity And the dark night of Apostasie was in the very first Primitive dayes of the Church But what blashemy this is and what an Antichristian Spirit this must be that speaketh in these men let sober men judge Let us hear more But sayes he in the true Church of Christ which is gathered by God not only into the doctrine of truth but also into the life power and Spirit of Christ the Spirit of God is Governour and Regulator as in every individual so also in the general And when they meet together to worshipe God then such as God separateth to the ministry by his owne power and influence opening their m●uthes and giving unto them to exhort rebuke and instruct in the power and Spirit of the Lord cannot but be heard received and held in honour for their works sake by their brethren seing they are thus ordained and put into the ministrie by God And thus there is no monopoly hereof unto a certaine kinde of men called the clergy who for this cause are educated and taught this art as other carnal trades are that all the rest may be despised and excluded as laicks but the mater is left unto the free gift of God that he may call whom he will poor or rich servants or masters old or young men or women and who are thus called verifie the Gospel 1 Thes. 1 5. and they cannot but be received and heard by Christs sheep 6. Here
But if what he saith be true to wit that there is no command for this Ordinance that i● is a legal Rite a shadow of good things to come whereof the body is Christ that it is repugnant to the nature of the new covenant dispensation c. I shall be bold to say that no man can out of tenderness of conscience to God after any method or manner goe about it and that no man should be more indulged therein than in practiseing of circumcision What he addeth is but a little bundle of his groundless whimsies without truth sense or consistency We haste to what followeth CHAP. XXVIII Of Liberty of Conscience 1. AS Thieves and Robbers who love to live on spoile and rapine desire earnestly there were no Law nor Judge to reach them in their wicked works So our Quakers conscious as it would seem to themselves of the evil of their wayes and practices and knowing full well how they are looked upon by all as pests and most noxious persons both to Church and Commonwealth to Religion and Civility and that therefore they cannot be tolerated or suffered to enjoy a license to follow forth their wicked designes to ruine all Christianity destroy all Churches in their very Being as well as in their Order and Government introduce Paganisme to the reproach of Christianity and to overturne the very foundations of Religion and Piety Our Quakers I say who are wise enough for evil and sagacious enough to contrive their owne security thought it best for their owne saiftie to adde this to the rest of their errours That Magistrates have no lawfull power over them and so joyne with Libertines Arminians and Anabaptists and with the Donatists of old and Raimundus Lullius and with the old Fraticelli who from their perfection inferred that they were not subject to any humane ordinances either of Church or State in pleading for a liberty of Conscience as it is called but in truth a lawless license to destroy all Religion all Piety and all the precious Concerns of Jesus Christ and of the souls of men Blackwood in his Storming of Antichrist Pag. 23. would adde some limitations or restrictions saying Evil works committed against the light of Nature and Reason as the setting up of Mahomet or any other God beside the Creator of heaven and earth Atheisme when any man shall boldly affirme there is no God Polytheisme when men affirm many G●ds Blas●hemy murder these and such like the Magistrate whether Heathen or Christian is to be a terrour unto 2. These evils which are against the light of Nations there is no Nation in the world but in it the Magistrate will punish those that speak against the God that they profess and against that which they think is Scripture So if any raile against Christ or deny the Scriptures to be his word or no rule for us so unsetle our faith this as I take it may be punished by the Magistrate But our Quaker I know will not stand to this He will rather say with Williams Bloody Tenet in the Preface Pag. 2. it is the will and command of God that since the coming of his Son the Lord Iesus a permissi●n of the most Paganish Iewish Turkish or Antichristian consciences and worships be granted to all men in all Nations and Countreys For his Thesis is general taking in all opinions about Worshipe and Religion And he grants to the Magistrate only liberty to judge in maters touching the life and goods of others or what is hurtful to humane society and commerce But probably not of Quakers for they are perfect and so cannot do wrong And though this be a very narrow restriction yet I cannot see how he can yeeld to this without destroying the maine ground he standeth upon for Conscience may be pretended for the one as well as for the other and an erroneous conscience way teach ●ome to Sacrifice their children to Molo●h and to cut off their nieghbou●s head as a revelation taught the Anabaptist in Helvetia to cut off his brothers head and others at Munster to do many villanies 2. Seing our Quaker declineth a full disput upon this head telling us that many have writ●en largely and earnedly upon it upon this same account I think my self releaved from any large prosecution of this Theme and that I need do no more but examine what he saith for his license and against our Arguments such of them as he is pleased to take any notice of Any who desire to have a full discussion of this question may peruse Mr Rutherfoords free disput against pretended liberty of Conscience Mr Edwards Prin and Others who have fully handled that debate The truth which we owne is summarily set down in our Confession of Faith Chap. 20. § 2 4. God alone is Lord of the Conscience Iam. 4 12. Rom. 14 4. and hath left it free from the doctrines and commandements of men which are in any thing contrary to his word or beside it in maters of faith or worship Act 4 v. 19. 5.29 1 Cor. 7. v. 25. Mat. 23 8 9 10. 2 Cor. 1 24. Mat. 15 9. So that to believe such doctrines or to obey such commands out of conscience is to betray true liberty of C●nscience Col. 2 20 22 23. Gal. 1 10. 2 4 5. Psal. 5 1. and the requireing of an implicite faith and an abs●lute and blinde obedience is to destroy liberty of Conscience and reason also Rom. 10 17. 14 23. Esa. 8 20. Act. 1● 11. Ioh. 4 28. Hos. 5 11. Revel 13 12 16 17. Ier. 8 9. And because the Powers which God hath ordained and the liberty which Christ hath purchased are not intended by God to destroy but mutually to uphold and preserve one another They who upon pretence of Christian liberty shall oppose any lawful Power or the lawful exercises of it whether it be Civil or Ecclesiastical resist the Ordinance of God Mat. 10 vers 25. 1 Pet. 2 vers 13 14 16. Rom 13 1 8. 13.17 And for their publishing of such opinions or maintaining of such practises as are contrary to the light of Nature or to the known principles of Christianity whether concerning faith Worshipe or Conversation or to the power of godliness or such erroneous Opinions or Practices as either in their own nature or in the manner of publishing or maintaining them are destructive to the ext●rnal peace and order which Christ hath established in the Church they may lawfully be called to account and proceeded against by the Censures of the Church Rom. 1 32. with 1 Cor. 5 2 3 11 13. 2 Ioh. 10 11. 2 Thes. 3 v. 14. Tim 6 3 4 Tit. 1 10 11 13. 3 10. with Mat. 18 15 16 17. 1 Tim. 1 vers 19 20 21. Revel 5 9 2 2 14 15. And by the power of the civil Magistrate Deut. 13 6 to 12 Rom. 13.3 4. with 2 Ioh. v. 10 ●1 Ezra 7 23 25.26 27 28. Revel
of his righteousnesse that so the shame of our nakednesse may not appeare to put on I know not what something common to us with heathens who never heard of Christ a Iapan gown and place ourselves when we have done in the expectation of the Turkes Paradise or of none When Satan in pursueance of his project having gotten possession of this poor vainling and swelled him with the conceit of that felicitie of understanding whereof he boasts in his Vniversal love But more truely a plain discoverie of an Vniversal hatred to the Gospel of the Grace of God he puts him on having puffed him up to publish to the world what he had poisoned the poor creatures spirit with thereby to leaven the spirits of men with this hell-hatched heresie And now this parturient mountain having with a great stridor and Nayloristick noise to the end he may be heard in all Europe peched out this Pagan mouse Reader there is no jest here Alas there is no matter of jest when the Devil is in so nettle earnest to destroy all and makes use of this poor creature for that end I onely make use of a known Proverb commonly made use of in the like case he thinks by the felicitie of his ingine he is able so to pourtrey and paint this Pagan birth as to make poor simple and shallow us short of his searching and soaring wit believe it is an Angel and he endeavours to cloth this brat of his own deluded brain in such a buske as will make every one who sees its face fond of it and fall in love with its beautie But he is mistaken for so long as the light of this glorious Gospel doth shine amongst us every one that is led by that true light will perceive by the face feature and foaming of this brate he hath brought forth that it is hell-borne and that it is a Demon incubus who hath begotten it to which the Pagan Parent hath prostitute his darkened understanding Nay I suppose and not without ground that if the Devil who drave the Author on and was at the dictating of these dreames had his Doctors Dictats againe in his hand he would bury or burne them ere he subjected them to such an Examen whereby the Authors Hell-Craft or to please the Naylorist in speaking in their own dialect witchcraft is so manifestly detected as Satan who set him on missed his marke in driveing his deluded Trustee to belch forth what was so blake as now after the discoverie made by this Examen it passeth the power of his blake art to give it any colour besids his own who is its true Father Moreover I doubt not to say if the Author of these Theses and Apologie be not brought to see and acknowledge the blakenesse and abominablnesse of his Errors by the shineing light and sharpenesse of this Examen it is not because there is not a sufficiency of Scripture light in what is by the judicious Author adduced but because Satan hath engaged the Author of that Apologie in an opposition to the truth beyond a retreat and then what might otherwise prove a remedie must fret the disease and fire him into a heat of hellish indignation to see his desperat designe so far defeat as the light which he intended to darken and extinguish shines more brightlie after the smoake of the pit which came out of his mouth is blown away and the truth in its radiant beautie and brightnesse is the more cleared up that he essayed to overcloud it But that I may not exceed the length and limits of a Postscript let me desire these things of every Professor of the name of Christ shortly First seriously to peruse and ponder this Examen for thy own establishment in the truth But more particularly since the arrogant here answered did addresse himself to Clergiemen as he calls them and students let me beseech and obtest both Ministers and Students of Divinitie to a serious perusal and pondering of this piece not onely as the most full cleare and satisfying confutation of the hell-blake abominations of that prating and perverse gang of enemies to Christ that hath si●e the dismal appearance of that prodigious partie come from any pen for though I do not designe to derogat from the due praise of those worthy servants of Christ who have stood up for truth and withstood these blasphemers of Christ for which their name shall be favourie and their praise in the Church yet none of them had a compleat systeme of all their wicked dreames to answer till the Author of these Thesis and Apologie undertook to give it us and now it is answered But also because the partie here dealt with having first swallowed down and then vomit up what ever is mortal to the immortal soul amongst other Adversaries to Christ beside these dottages peculiar to themselves here thou hast a most learned and elaborat refutation of all these now grosse and grassant errors whereby the souls of men are in hazard to be murthered and the truth corrupted by these perverters of the Gospel of Christ such as Arminianisme and Socinianisme c. And I am sure by the diligent perusal of what is here brought to thy hand and the blessing of God upon thy pains thou maiest not onely be singularly edified established and built up in the most holy faith but put in case to speake with all the enemies of the Grace of God in the gate and if this may excite thee I professe that by the reading hereof I have found my self confirmed in the truth and much established in that doctrine which is according to godlinesse And forget not to blesse the Lord for his goodnesse to his Church in preserving beyond expectation the Authors life and for enabling him and holding his hand as in all the several encounters he hath had with the Adversaries to the truth so in a remarkable manner and measure in this rancountre with the Naylorists Goliah he hath been helped to dis●over these depths of Satan which are in their doctrine so that this Naylorist may well hereafter sprawl spurne but a solid reply is beyond the felicitie of his understanding And every on will judge he hath but little reason to boast of that felicitie if he be so unhappily dull as not to understand this But if he intend a reply he had better cause some bold bawler undertake it and instead of all other refutation tell the learned and judicious Author that he is in the Imagination and Witchcraft and this will be the short cut And if he will take my advice he will finde it the saifest course onely let him remember that this course will be a confession in obliquo that Goliah's head is cut off and now the whole host of these uncircumcised Philistims must flee from the face and force of a little Presbyterian David But to such as are not able to follow fathom the Authors reach or have not so much time as