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A66958
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The Catholicks defence for their adoration of the body and blood of our Lord as believed really and substantially present in the Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist.
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R. H., 1609-1678.
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Wing W3439; ESTC R16193
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manner_n than_o they_o imagine_v see_v the_o argument_n of_o barnesius_n a_o roman_a writer_n apud_fw-la forbes_n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o 2._o 12._o corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la est_fw-la cum_fw-la pane_fw-la vel_fw-la permanente_fw-la vel_fw-la transeunte_fw-la uno_fw-la vel_fw-la alio_fw-la modo_fw-la &_o per_fw-la consequens_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la idololatria_fw-la adorare_fw-la christum_fw-la ibi_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n realiter_fw-la praesentem_fw-la see_v in_o conc._n trid._n 13._o 13._o c._n 5._o the_o reason_n immediate_o follow_v the_o require_v of_o adoration_n nam_fw-la illum_fw-la eundem_fw-la deum_fw-la praesentem_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la i.e._n sacramento_n adesse_fw-la credimus_fw-la quem_fw-la pater_fw-la introducens_fw-la in_o orbem_fw-la terrarum_fw-la dicit_fw-la et_fw-la adorent_fw-la eum_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o therefore_o the_o roman_a church_n enjoin_v these_o three_o 1._o to_o believe_v christ_n corporal_a presence_n in_o the_o sacrament_n 2._o to_o believe_v such_o presence_n by_o way_n of_o transubstantiation_n 3._o to_o adore_v christ_n as_o be_v there_o present_a it_o follow_v not_o that_o she_o enjoin_v the_o three_o in_o order_n to_o the_o second_o but_o may_v only_o in_o order_n to_o the_o first_o as_o the_o first_o be_v without_o the_o second_o a_o sufficient_a ground_n thereof_o neither_o can_v i_o disbelieve_v the_o second_o yet_o believe_v the_o first_o refuse_v obedience_n to_o the_o three_o that_o be_v to_o worship_v the_o same_o object_n in_o the_o same_o place_n as_o those_o do_v who_o also_o believe_v the_o second_o and_o in_o my_o believe_v both_o the_o first_o and_o the_o second_o yet_o may_v i_o nevertheless_o ground_v the_o three_o only_o on_o that_o which_o be_v by_o christian_n more_o general_o agree_v on_o and_o still_o worship_n out_o of_o no_o other_o intention_n after_o transubstantiation_n believe_v than_o i_o do_v before_o i_o believe_v it_o when_o only_o i_o hold_v in_o general_a a_o corporal_a presence_n or_o than_o 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that_o no_o other_o there_o but_o he_o may_v be_v worship_v not_o bread_n nor_o any_o other_o mere_a creature_n 4._o that_o nothing_o visible_a in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v he_o or_o his_o body_n which_o be_v present_a only_o invisible_o without_o any_o thing_n visible_a inhere_v or_o appertain_v to_o it_o as_o the_o subject_n thereof_o they_o differ_v only_o about_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o presence_n of_o this_o invisible_a substance_n the_o one_o say_v it_o be_v there_o together_o with_o the_o bread_n the_o other_o say_v there_o instead_o of_o the_o bread_n and_o the_o bread_n away_o a_o thing_n also_o to_o god_n possible_a for_o any_o thing_n we_o know_v the_o one_o say_v he_o be_v there_o both_o under_o the_o substance_n and_o accident_n of_o bread_n the_o other_o there_o under_o the_o accident_n only_o of_o the_o bread_n now_o whilst_o both_o worship_n the_o same_o object_n in_o the_o same_o place_n and_o veil_v with_o the_o same_o sensible_a accident_n if_o the_o one_o adore_v 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be_v but_o this_o none_o say_v but_o that_o they_o worship_v it_o only_o upon_o supposition_n that_o it_o be_v christ_n body_n and_o not_o bread_n and_o that_o for_o this_o supposition_n they_o have_v a_o rational_a ground_n of_o which_o by_o and_o by_o now_o say_v they_o worship_v it_o because_o it_o be_v so_o be_v say_v if_o it_o be_v not_o so_o they_o intend_v no_o worship_n to_o it_o he_o that_o say_v i_o give_v divine_a adoration_n to_o that_o which_o be_v under_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n because_o believe_v by_o i_o or_o if_o you_o will_v certain_o know_v by_o i_o but_o he_o indeed_o mistake_v to_o be_v christ_n body_n and_o so_o christ_n present_a be_v yet_o far_o from_o say_v i_o worship_v whatever_o be_v under_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n whether_o it_o be_v christ_n body_n or_o no._n and_o he_o that_o say_v the_o late_a of_o these_o if_o bread_n happen_v to_o be_v there_o be_v willing_o grant_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o not_o so_o the_o former_a daille_n as_o it_o much_o concern_v he_o excuse_v a_o lutheran_n adore_v upon_o a_o false_o suppose_v real_a or_o corporal_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n from_o any_o idolatry_n for_o this_o reason_n because_o say_v he_o 63._o he_o 1._o reply_v to_o chaumont_n p._n 63._o such_o adoration_n be_v mistake_v not_o in_o this_o that_o it_o address_v itself_o to_o a_o object_n not_o adorable_a but_o only_o that_o by_o error_n it_o seek_v and_o think_v to_o enjoy_v it_o in_o a_o place_n where_o it_o be_v not_o and_o so_o he_o say_v it_o become_v only_o vain_a and_o unprofitable_a etc._n etc._n as_o be_v say_v before_o before_o 8._o the_o same_o therefore_o must_v he_o allow_v to_o catholic_n if_o mean_v nothing_o more_o by_o their_o language_n of_o adoratio_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la than_o christi_fw-la in_o sacramento_n as_o have_v be_v show_v before_o before_o 12._o etc._n etc._n that_o they_o do_v not_o and_o that_o the_o contention_n about_o this_o be_v a_o mere_a logomachy_n and_o that_o they_o 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place_v on_o the_o altar_n and_o by_o some_o deficiency_n in_o the_o priest_n not_o true_o consecrate_v be_v free_o absolve_v by_o they_o herein_o from_o commit_v any_o idolatry_n see_v before_o before_o 8._o hence_o therefore_o if_o catholic_n can_v produce_v a_o rational_a ground_n of_o their_o apprehend_v christ_n present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n though_o possible_o mistake_v in_o it_o they_o be_v to_o be_v excuse_v from_o idolatry_n upon_o the_o same_o term_n term_n 23_o 1._o now_o here_o first_o the_o lutheran_n be_v allow_v to_o have_v such_o a_o plausible_a ground_n or_o motive_n for_o their_o adoration_n whereby_o they_o become_v by_o other_o protestant_n absolve_v from_o idolatry_n in_o adore_v our_o lord_n as_o present_v there_o only_o their_o adoration_n inutile_fw-la say_v daille_n &_o tombent_a en_fw-fr neant_fw-la i_o see_v not_o why_o the_o ground_n of_o roman_a catholic_n shall_v be_v any_o whit_n less_o value_v than_o they_o for_o if_o we_o compare_v the_o one_o con_n with_o the_o other_o be_v trans_fw-la substantiation_n the_o late_a seem_n more_o agreeable_a to_o our_o lord_n word_n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la and_o to_o the_o most_o plain_a literal_a obvious_a sense_n thereof_o hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la by_o a_o change_n of_o the_o bread_n rather_o than_o hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la by_o a_o conjunction_n with_o the_o bread_n and_o therefore_o be_v the_o roman_a equal_v with_o or_o else_o prefer_v before_o the_o lutheran_n sense_n by_o many_o protestant_n that_o be_v neutral_a and_o dissent_v from_o both_o longius_fw-la consubstantiatorum_fw-la say_v bishop_n forbes_n de_fw-fr euchar._n l._n 1._o c._n 4_o 4_o 5._o quam_fw-la transubstantiatorum_fw-la sententiam_fw-la a_o christi_fw-la verbis_fw-la recedere_fw-la sive_fw-la litera_fw-la spectetur_fw-la sive_fw-la sensus_fw-la affirmat_fw-la r._n hospinianus_n &_o caeteri_fw-la calviniani_fw-la communiter_fw-la and_o hospinian_n histor_n sacram._n 2._o part_n fol._n 6._o say_v of_o luther_n errorem_fw-la errore_fw-la commutavit_fw-la nec_fw-la videns_fw-la svam_fw-la