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A10240 A rejoynder unto William Malone's reply to the first article Wherein the founders of unwritten traditions are confounded, out of the sure foundation of Scripture, and the true tradition of the Church. By Roger Puttocke, minister of Gods word at Novan. Puttock, Roger. 1632 (1632) STC 20520; ESTC S100925 167,226 214

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