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truth_n church_n error_n fundamental_a 2,119 5 10.4051 5 false
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A27380 Tradidi vobis, or, The traditionary conveyance of faith cleer'd in the rational way against the exceptions of a learned opponent / by J.B., Esquire. J. B. (John Belson), fl. 1688. 1662 (1662) Wing B1861; ESTC R4578 124,753 322

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