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22._o q._n 81._o 1._o c._n religio_fw-la est_fw-la quae_fw-la cultum_fw-la &_o honorem_fw-la deo_fw-la tribuit_fw-la azor_n instit_fw-la mor._n p._n 1._o l._n 3._o c._n 26._o &_o l._n 9_o c._n 5._o p._n 23._o answ_n 1._o the_o proper_a act_n of_o religion_n be_v to_o worship_n and_o bring_v honour_n to_o god_n with_o relation_n to_o who_o only_o religion_n be_v define_v by_o your_o schoolman_n and_o other_o this_o worship_n be_v due_a to_o god_n only_o and_o be_v that_o whereby_o we_o give_v up_o ourselves_o unto_o god_n as_o the_o supreme_a lord_n of_o all_o and_o do_v place_n our_o hope_n and_o that_o in_o he_o as_o azorius_fw-la define_v it_o according_a to_o this_o faith_n be_v a_o part_n of_o divine_a worship_n a_o act_n of_o religion_n but_o relate_v to_o god_n the_o supreme_a lord_n of_o all_o not_o to_o the_o church_n which_o be_v only_o a_o servant_n under_o he_o or_o if_o you_o will_v a_o assembly_n of_o his_o servant_n and_o indeed_o its_o reason_n that_o faith_n shall_v 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