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hatred_n of_o god_n a_o effect_n of_o his_o wrath_n in_o the_o damn_a in_o who_o it_o be_v natural_a but_o by_o his_o wrath_n against_o they_o that_o malice_n of_o they_o accidental_o be_v increase_v which_o i_o speak_v upon_o this_o supposition_n that_o the_o damn_a shall_v continue_v in_o sin_n as_o well_o as_o in_o punishment_n the_o former_a point_n if_o we_o hold_v the_o former_a distinction_n advise_o contain_v at_o all_o no_o blasphemy_n against_o our_o saviour_n his_o person_n be_v of_o itself_o most_o tender_o belove_v of_o god_n his_o father_n though_o be_v consider_v as_o a_o sinner_n such_o as_o by_o imputation_n he_o be_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n for_o a_o time_n in_o that_o respect_n he_o be_v to_o god_n for_o we_o as_o every_o one_o of_o we_o be_v in_o himself_o too_o god_n christ_n suffer_v say_v he_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n therefore_o he_o be_v torment_v with_o anguish_n of_o mind_n for_o his_o offence_n for_o which_o etc._n etc._n the_o consequence_n shall_v 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