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A59913	The second part of the birth and burning of the image called St. Michael, or, A new letter to Mr. Jonathan Saunders, lecturer of All-Saints-Barking being the answer of Mr. Edmund Sherman, late church-warder to a sham libel (without any authors name) called The sham-indictment quashed ...	Sherman, Edmund, 17th cent.	1681 (1681)	Wing S3383; ESTC R28864	30,547	16

in the same Mass-Books if we new print them and so plead these are not the same that were then standing and being for this Image was made Anno 59. without order of Vestry but by the mear Fancy of Mr. Ben. Edwards when he was Church-Warden So then you would make the Fancy of Edwards the Church-Warden to have outwitted the Law of Edward the King Ben. is a true Church-man and I am sure a great Enemy to Papists therefore they will never Saint him for the Contrivance because Ben's Fancy reacht only to put him on the Steeple it was not he no I warrant you that Removed him and placed him as an Ornament to the Commandements by standing on the top of them as ready to kick the Second Commandement out of doors as soon as ever Popery should enter But then pag. 3. you seem very skilful in the knowledge of Images and their Names for you tell the World in print that the top of the Church of Barkin is set about with Guilded figures called Seraphims and in the first Pamphlet pag. 2. you tell us the Names of others in our Church viz. Saturn Mars and other Pagan Idols A man would think you had been at the Christning if not as Lecturer yet as Clark to say Amen out of spite to the poor Clark to hinder him of Fees and Gloves Or else perhaps you stood Godfather else how shouldst thou come so intimate with these lofty things As for these things you call Seraphims on the very Roof of our Church they are nothing but meer Faces with Wings on each side of their Chops and yet canst presently tell us who they are by their very Grinning or Gritting nay you tell us their very qualities for thou faiest they are the highest Order of Angels O the Depth of this Wisdom it is learnedly said because they stand on the top of the Church Ergo they are highest This is most Lectorical Logick ever Boy of Sandon knows as much that he that is on the top of the Steeple is the highest Lad in the Parish But why dost thou take things thus by Tradition Thou art a man of great Faith for no Man will believe thou ever saw'st Angel or Seraphim but in Apparition but I won't grapple with you in this dispute nor where they commenced when they took such high Degrees whether at Oxford or at St. Andrews I have no skill in any Saint till they be grown as big as our Lubber St. Michael nor do I think I should know St. Michael if I meet him in Apparition now his Carving and Guilding is all singed off And as for those Superior things that have only Faces and no Bodies I call them only by your General Title of Pamphlets Apparitions or Shams or Lecturers Brats and leave you to Christen them with what Name you please And they being nothing else but Face you have a fair Mark to Sprinkle at and they will cry no more at your Christning than St. Michael did when I burnt him if you shall say I prophane the Order or Service of the holy Sacrament of Baptism so did you when you called St. Michael my God-son Lectoris ad Exemplum O let not the Devil rebuke sin and let who will vouch for you that those are Seraphims as you call them for I will never be God-father again seeing you have so vainly and prophanely defiled the name by applying it to an Image for though its true I have heard that Papists do Christen their Images yet I never heard they had God-fathers before Mr. Saunders printed it Thus I only lay open the substance of the Matter let other Men enlarge upon your Texts and your Brats and your Images and your defence at Sessions and in print and your Bowings and your way of performing Ceremonies and the timing of them not beginning them till the Plot was Discovering and untill you had got up St. Michael Organs and Whitebread's Carpet c. exposed to view in the Front instead of our white Linnen which the Act of Uniformity Injoyns For sure it will be necessary for some of our Reverend Clergy in this juncture to oppose that Doctrine of Images which you so strenuously advance for your whole quarrel is because I pulled down an Image Let not Papists on one hand be encouraged and hardned in their Idolatries and Phanaticks on the other hand pretend some ground for their Clamours that the Church of England or at least some of her Seraphim or Topp-heavy Sons are warping towards Popery though it is in truth only a Lecturer and a few more scarce one of nine thousand of the Churches in England use such Ceremonies as we do Cathedral c. excepteds But towards the end of your Anonimous Pamphlet I met this dreadful Charge fol. 3. That there is one of these Faces set up at the East end of the Church plum over the Communion Table towards which the late upper Church-warden as many of the Parish will testifie hath frequently Bowed without any scruple of Conscience while the figure called St. Michael stood thereupon Truly all this I can deny as stiff as ever any Priest of St. Michael or any Jesuit did at Tyburn that I had no hand in this Plot I am as clear of it as the Child unborn Pray Name your Witnesses and Time when and where to prove that ever I Bowed to any thing set up at the East end of the Church but your Pamphlet having no Bodies Name to it I cannot tell who to go to but to you our Apparition Lecturer and if you can't bring Real Corporeal Witnesses then bring some Apparition to prove it for I believe thou hast more Apparitions in thy Budget Jonathan And now to conclude all this Tragedy I find at the Rump of this nameless Authors Pamphlet there comes out a flash like the blaze at the tail of a Comet with a thundering Sentence or Bull of Condemnation of the Book called The Birth and Burning c. Intending I suppose to blast the Credit thereof by the scribble of one that dares not put his Name to what he prints But People do the rather run on and buy that Book the more so that it requires a second Impression because they see the Lecturer inclines to Stifle it but none to Answer it For instead of Answering any one particular of the Ceremonies charged upon him to have never except on Communion dayes been performed by him till St. Michael was set upon the Commandments this Lecturer does as that Ignorant Author did who thought the World would believe he had fully Confuted the Learned Roman Cardinal by only saying Bellarmine thou Lyest So our sine Nomine Pamphleteer alias Lecturer or Will in the wisp or dark Lanthorn man or I know not who to call him because he is ashamed to print his Name acts much at the same rate and says it was some bodies Opinion that it was a rude scurrilous insolent Paper many falsities therein but is this all the

your Ornament to the Ten Commandments O rare Ornament a great Carved Gilded Image described fully in all its Demensions by my last Book a silly Tool of Superstition it had one end of a Lath tack't to its Bumfidle and the other end to the Window for its better preservation from falling least the Cats scampering over it in the heat of their Woeing Should have made it a Tumble-down Dick Instead of a Gilded and Carved St. Mick O Rara-show a most beautiful Bit for the Parson to rail in Print and Pulpit against him that saved the Parish a Score of Billets by burning it in Vestry instead of Billet and Charcole as to your last Aspersion in your Sham-Indictment brought in there as an Advertisement I do positively deny that the Printed Book called Birth and Burning of this image c. was ever read in Vestry when I was present or that ever there hath been any Vestry since the Book was Printed and Published which was but about the Twenty-sixth of May last it is true that when my Narrative was in Manuscript about Four Weeks before it was printed it was read in Vestry and some would needs cavil at it and asked if I would own it I told them I would and said it was true and asked What one Material thing was false I would justifie it to be true no Body gave Instances of any Particulars that were false pray name any Material one if you can and will the Pamphlet say I c●●ld make little or no Reply Is Truth a little thing I do tell thee Johnathan that the substance of that Book Birth and Burning c. is as true as any thing thou ever saidst or wrote of thy own making There might he false Spellings false Latin and some Words misplaced in the written Narrative But what does that concern the World The World knows nothing but what is published in Print and the Title is not called A Copy of a Narrative But the substance of a Narrative lately given in to the Vestry c. So that all that the World is to take notice of is First Whether this Book since in was printed was read in Vestry Secondly Whether this Book be answerable to its Title viz. The substance of the aforesaid Narrative Thirdly and Lastly whether the substance of that Book be true or false And now not to enumerate all over again I will only Repeat the most Material Heads or Substance Which take thus 1. In 1675. we set up Organs And we set this Image upon our Altar which was made in 1659. by Mr. Edwards who set it on the Steeple till about 1675. or 1676. and then it was removed to the Altar by Mr. Clements 2. That this Image was made and removed without any Order of Vestry particularly directing the making or removing his Image 3. That 1677. we beautified our Organs As it stands written thereon Made 1675. Beautified 1677. 4. That Mr. Tho. Whitebread gave us in 1677. a rich Carpet c. with such an Imbroyder'd Glory c. with a Cross and this Inscription as in the Margent 5. That this Gist stands Registred in a Table in our Vestry in the same Words as I mention in my said Book Page 8. 6. That our Linnen Cloath used to hang down to the Ground or very near it in our front till we had this Carpet 7. That since we had this Carpet we expose that to view and Fold upon the fore-part of the Table our Linnen 8. That by the Act of Uniformity it may be allowable enough for our Communion Table to stand further off yea in the middle of the Church and so it would not look so like an Altar as now it does standing close to the Commandments with Ends North and South Thus much for the Furniture of the Church and Altar Now for your Ceremonies 9. That until about 1678. we had all our Services said in the Desk and no where else 10. That until about 1678. our Sermon did conclude in the Pulpit with some Prayer or other and the Benediction was until then ever given in the Pulpit 11. That since 1677. you have begun and continued to read Second Service at the Altar and at your approach to the Altar you make a reverend low Bow towards the Altar or Image or Carpet 12. That since 1677. you conclude the Sermon without Prayer and Blessing and the Organ strikes up a Tune to divert the People till you go into Vestry to put on the Surplice and then you come out so habited mount the steps enter the Rails make a low bow towards the middle of the Altar then you turn to the North end kneel and say some Prayers there then pronounce the Blessing at the Altar which ever till about 1678. was pronounced in the Pulpit 13. That you nor no Minister before you did ever in our Church bow at the Altar before St. Michael was set there except when the Bread and Wine was there on Sacrament Dayes for I will allow that That you and Doctor Lafield did Bow on Sacrament Dayes at the Altar but that was because or when there was Bread and Wine there and this you did and Doctor Lafield too before any St. Michael was set there But it was only on Sacrament Dayes 14. That you are charged to be the first Man that bowed there after St. Michael was up when there was no Communion and the first Man that went and Offered up Prayers and Benedictions under St. Michael's Nose at the Altar where in some parts of the Church People can't hear nor see the Parson and so Prayers in Latin or an unknown Tongue may do as much good as Prayers which we can't hear 15. That you were the promoter of the beginning of these Ceremonies though Doctor Lafield did perswade against i●● whereas a Lecturer ought to have followed rather than led in any New performances 16. That the suspicion of Superstition and the ground of all this Noise did arise from your beginning these Ceremonies but just about the time the Papists Lords were sending to the Tower 17. That you account Mr. Whitebread's glorious Carpet a better Ornament than the Linnen which the Act of Uniformity enjoyns for if it be not better you are fools for using it for if we do not use the very best of every thing other Parishes may be more serious and regularly Devout than this of All-Saints-Barking if we have nothing else to boast of but that we have a better Carpet and more Ceremonies and a more Ceremonious Lecturer than other Parishes And now Mr. Saunders not to give you too great a Task at once though there are many more observable Matters in my Book called Birth and Burning c. which are true also yet I have singled you out these seventeen Heads as part of the Matter charged to be the occasion of this Indictment it lyes on your part to name those twenty Men that dare say to my Face that these Heads are rude scurrilous and

when we fear the prevailing of a Religion that is composed of Ceremonies and Superstitions And Consider the rather with your self who first put you upon running into these Ceremonies I have good ground to believe the Report of some of the People in and about Sandon that it was a Lay Gentleman who in some former Years had been himself or some of his Relations of the Romish Religion and therefore consider and think it no wonder if that Gentleman press hard upon you for a strict Observation and a due Performance of a Multitude of Ceremonies because he may perhaps think that God's worship in the Church of England consists as much in Ceremonies as it did so in the Romish Church but I hope you have not so learned Christ And then you will be able to reply to that Gentleman this other Text viz. God is a Spirit and they that worship him Must worship him in Spirit and in Truth Joh. 4.24 And pray Study Preach and Practise this your own self and begin nor continue no new Ceremonies at least let your betters go before you I mean see it done at Aldersgate before you Print up the Legality of it at Barking or Sandon Thus it seems you have made Divisions at Sandon also and a Noise about the Country as well as die City meerly by your singularity and Ceremonious practices to the wonder of some Neighbouring Learned Clergy-men about Sandon What will you disturb City and Country and with the heat of your pretended Conscientious zeal boyl all the goodness out of the Meat Religion into the Broth of Ceremonies Nay if the marrow and goodness of Religion and quintessence of it be gone into the broth and the All of it lyes there then it is no wonder you contend so much for the Broth that Religion is boyl'd in I mean the Broth of uninjoyn'd Ceremonies for I would not be thought to Ridicule any Ceremonies that are injoyned by the Law it is you Mr. Lecturer that imbroyl London and Sandon and by your bowing c. occasioned an Indictment at London and then that occasioned three Pamphlets at London and this my Second Vindication also it was those Lecturers Lecturers that in Pulpit and Press did turn the World up-side down in 41. in 41. and for a Lecturer now in these times to Print up more Ceremonies and Bowings than the Law hath enjoyned tends to turn us quite topsie turvy because it may tend to bringing in a Religion that is Composed of and upheld by Ceremonies from such Religion good Lord deliver us When I read what the Samaritan Woman said Our Fathers worshipped in this Mountain and ye say that at Jerusalem is the place where Men ought to worship John 4.20 So may I say we had all our Morning Services both First and Second Services all said in the Desk at Barking ever since the Creation of the Kings Act of Conformity till about 78. and now you Johnathan say that the Altar is the place where the Men of Barking ought to worship the same God by saying second Service there So I also may say that ever since the Creation of the said Act our Sermons did end with some Prayer and Benedictions in the Pulpit until about 78. But now you Johnathan say that the Men of Barking ought to receive the benefit of your after Sermon-prayers and Benedictions at the Altar after you have bowed to it and not from the Pulpit It will be now expected that you that have thus exposed your self not only in Loyal Mr. Thomson but in your own Three single Sheets and have exposed me also to the World when you had no just occasion except in defence of an Image I say it will now be expected that you should give the World a Learned and Good Account in Print of the whole Matter particularly why your Conscience is streighter Laced at London than it is at Sandon or else Life Doctrine Print Pulpit Reading Ceremonious Bowing Critical time lucky Minit and all Circumstances considered you will come on and go off the Printed State under a Charactor and in the wildest Notion of the largest sized Latitudinarian of any Clergy-man in England In your Book of Fiery Apparition c. Page 4. you have these words I could have wished with all my Heart that the thing had made no Noise abroad I believe by this time you do wish so with all your Heart and Head and Soul also thou wishest it had made no Noise and yet you begin the Noise your self with Two Pamphlets before ever I Printed one word I find in the second Book Page 4. more of your own Words being thus And I very well understand that Liberty of Conscience and Liberty of the Press are things that have an unhappy Influence upon the whole Nation and therefore as I am no Friend in the present wild Notion to the one so I should hardly have been guilty of using the other had there not been this Too just occasion for it Just so I invert this Sentance of your own If Clergy-men will take Liberty of Conscience in the Pulpit and Press to inveigh against me why then I can't forbear being Guilty of using the Press to tell the World how you Ring of Sacrelidge about one vile Image And I should never have Printed had there not been this too just occasion for it which are also your own words Pray God the Protestant Religion and Church as it is now establisht by Law never receive a greater Bow in England than my Burning an Image God Almighty who equally hates Superstition and Sedition blast the designs of all those on either hand that tend to seek the Destruction of this true Protestant Church of England as it is now establisht by Law especially those of her own Houshould for I am an enemy to all that go beyond as well as to those that come short of the Church of England For every step beyond if it be a Superstitious step it may soonest of all be a Popish step the rather because at this day Romes Agents are so ready to take Men by the Hand and Dance them into Romes Fopperies with the pleasant Song of welcome John Sanderson welcome welcome And then I will say farwel John Sanderson farwel farewel I kept these Two Astonishments till at last in hopes I should have seen you rectifying your mistakes in Print one is your Text Where no Law is there is no Transgression Must you be taught by a Church-warden that there is a Law except you are agreed with some Papist who leave that Commandment out of their Deacalogue you will one day find it in Exod. 20.3 4. in these words Thou shalt not make to thy self any Graven Image nor the likeness of any thing that is in Heaven above or in the Earth beneath or the Waters under the Earth thou shalt not Bow down to them nor worship them c. Though you evade this Image by calling it a Figure or Symbol yet you may